Trump's Final 100 days
Quote: BozCool, to each his own. Any local SE PA breweries you think stand out? Conshohocken makes some good beers. In Lancaster County both Spring House and St Boniface are doing good things. I do think overall Chester County is lacking compared to other places in PA.
Totally off topic but a good discussion, thanks for engaging.
Sly Fox (originally), La Cabre,Tired Hands and Levante are all in Chester County and super solid. Sly fox is a bit outside Chester County and also very good.
I'm more central PA, Troeggs is one of my favorite, and their restaurant is excellent as well.
Quote: gamerfreakSly Fox (originally), La Cabre,Tired Hands and Levante are all in Chester County and super solid. Sly fox is a bit outside Chester County and also very good.
I'm more central PA, Troeggs is one of my favorite, and their restaurant is excellent as well.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can you get back to fighting? I don't come here to read about two people getting along.
Donald J Trump!
Quote: sixsistersWhen they finish taking down all the confederate statues, hopefully they will replace them with a real American hero, U.S President
Donald J Trump!
WW2 monuments would be better.
Quote: rsactuaryNo, you're a homophobe because you won't believe the science supporting the fact that gay is not a choice.
Again saying it is fact and proving it are two separate things. You have shown no data to support your claim. All you have shown is you are willing to use hate speech because you are upset you are wrong.
Quote:Senator Rob Portman(R) had been a long time opponent of gay marriage. However, once his son Will Portman came out as gay, the Senator changed his position. Unfortunately, the revelation wasn't enough for him to fight for gay marriage, simply not to oppose it any longer.
Vice President Dick Cheney has long since been known as a major voice for conservative views. His daughter Mary Cheney is an out and proud lesbian who is married to her partner, Heather Poe. Mary has worked for her father's conservative campaigns for years.
Alan Keyes is a well-known conservative politician and UN Ambassador who once made headline news when suing Barack Obama in order to challenge his citizenship. He has long since condemned homosexuality, despite having a lesbian daughter, Maya Jean Marcel-Keyes. Marcel-Keyes is now an LGBT advocate.
Republican Arizona Senator Matt Salmon had long since held his conservative views, including anti-gay legislation that would ban same sex marriage and gay adoption rights. Matt R. Salmon, his son, came out as gay in 2010, with plans to make the Republican party more progressive
Colorado Representative Marsha Looper (R) accidentally outed her son when her campaign manager sent an email praising her for voting against civil-unions despite having a gay son. The episode upset Looper, whose son never wanted to be outed in public.
Colorado Representative Don Coram greatly disappointed his son, Dee Coram, when he voted against Colorado's civil unions bill. Despite Coram claiming to be proud of his gay son, he said he couldn't bring himself to go against the will of her conservative voters.
Conservative political activist, Phyllis Schlafly made her opinions on gay people apparent to the whole world. She opposed the Equal Rights Amendment and many marriage equality platforms, although her son John Schlafly came out as gay in 1992
Quote: gamerfreakSly Fox (originally), La Cabre,Tired Hands and Levante are all in Chester County and super solid. Sly fox is a bit outside Chester County and also very good.
I'm more central PA, Troeggs is one of my favorite, and their restaurant is excellent as well.
Love Troegs, they have done an incredible job from where they started in Harrisburg, good people. From there it's only a short drive to Pizza Boy in Enola.
I still like Sly Fox and used to go to the Royersford location for years and still hit Phoenixville occasionally. Just not a fan of Tired Hands, more about how they run their business and beer releases than the actual liquid. But can't argue they are doing great and seem to be one of the most popular beers with traders.
Even this fool sees the writing on the wall. Too many "Racists, Rednecks & Nazis" as AMS likes to call them out there.
Quote: BozToo many "Racists, Rednecks & Nazis" as AMS likes to call them out there.
On this we can agree.
I've had to say this a lot lately: the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.
Quote: ams288On this we can agree.
I've had to say this a lot lately: the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.
Death to those you disagree with, sounds about right for your side.
Sorry, I don't agree with Nazis by any means, but I don't wish death on them.
In America we don't punish people before they commit a crime. Once they do, punish them to the full extent of the law.
Quote: BozDeath to those you disagree with, sounds about right for your side.
Your crocodile tears fool no one.
Quote: RSI did a google search for "is being gay a choice science proof" (not in quotes in search) and from the articles that showed up, it didn't seem like anything has been proven (yet?), but there's evidence to support it's not a choice...but research is still being done on the subject. I'm not going to waste my time wading through several more articles (unless someone wants to post an article of proof in-favor or against it being a choice), because TBH, I don't really care if it's a choice, the way you were brought up, your genes, a birth defect, or whatever else.
You said it perfectly.
My only issue is people trying to pass off non facts as 100% scientific proof. Then when they can't they name call.
Quote: ams288Your crocodile tears fool no one.
Have I ever said there are not crazies on the right? Each side has people they should be ashamed of. The difference is I see many of the right calling out idiots, not only the Nazis but people like those who made this sign. Of course the same thing was observed about George W Bush. Less outrage though by the left.
Now you have the Antifa on your side throwing human waste on reporters and others. Violence is their mode of operation, yet again I don't see the outrage on the left.
Quote: BozNow you have the Antifa on your side throwing human waste on reporters and others. Violence is their mode of operation, yet again I don't see the outrage on the left.
I see it. Maybe turn off Fox News and talk radio nonsense and you will too.
Quote: HomelessnycAgain saying it is fact and proving it are two separate things. You have shown no data to support your claim. All you have shown is you are willing to use hate speech because you are upset you are wrong.
You're afraid to find out that people can be different from you. You're threatened by that. Hate speech??? laughable again. try harder.
Quote: ams288I see it. Maybe turn off Fox News and talk radio nonsense and you will too.
Ok, can you post some links of known liberals condemning these guys?
Since I only watch Fox and listen to Rush, I don't know where to turn.
Quote: rsactuaryYou're afraid to find out that people can be different from you. You're threatened by that. Hate speech??? laughable again. try harder.
What forum are you reading?
Where do i ever say i was a afraid people are different than me??? You have a great talent reading things that arent there.
I think you are deflecting. You try to pass off your feelings as fact, you were proven wrong and therefore i hate gays???
That's laughable.
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Quote: HomelessnycWhat forum are you reading?
Where do i ever say i was a afraid people are different than me??? You have a great talent reading things that arent there.
I think you are deflecting. You try to pass off your feelings as fact, you were proven wrong and therefore i hate gays???
That's laughable.
You aren't willing to educate yourself by doing something as simple as Googling. I stand by my comment. By the way.. I never said you hate gays... you're deflecting. But maybe that's your subconscious.
Quote: rsactuaryYou aren't willing to educate yourself by doing something as simple as Googling. I stand by my comment. By the way.. I never said you hate gays... you're deflecting. But maybe that's your subconscious.
If you have such hard proof why do i need to go research to prove it for you?
If i am going to research it will be to prove you wrong which is what happened. Now your feelings are hurt.
Please look up the definition of homophobic before you make yourself look even more foolish
Tampa professor who said Texas deserved Harvey because they voted for Trump is fired. Maybe the tide is turning a little or this guy was just too extreme.
You are free to say what you want but know there are consequences.j
Not if you're rich and white... Didn't Donald get RECORDED saying he raped women by making sexual advances on them and he didn't care because he's famous? What were the consequences of that free speech?Quote: Boz...You are free to say what you want but know there are consequences.j
How many do you think will keep the same stance now?
Quote: RomesNot if you're rich and white... Didn't Donald get RECORDED saying he raped women by making sexual advances on them and he didn't care because he's famous? What were the consequences of that free speech?
How did that work out for Donald Sterling? He seemed rich and white to me.
Quote: billryanOnly one member of Tejas's Congressional representation voted to give Federal money to the victims of Sandy. They didn't even want to fix the roof of the National Museum in Washington.
How many do you think will keep the same stance now?
The problem some had with the Sandy bill was it was loaded with pork. But I will never say the GOP isn't guilty of doing the same thing.
Ah, a true trumper. Ignore and deflect any question/issue directly related to trump with something about someone else =).Quote: BozHow did that work out for Donald Sterling? He seemed rich and white to me.
Quote: BozThe problem some had with the Sandy bill was it was loaded with pork. But I will never say the GOP isn't guilty of doing the same thing.
That's the excuse they use, but it's not true.
Ted Cruz’s claim that two-thirds of the Hurricane Sandy bill ‘had nothing to do with Sandy’
Quote:So was the $50 billion bill filled with pork — two-thirds of which was unrelated to Sandy?
No.
The Congressional Research Service issued a comprehensive report on the provisions, and it’s clear that virtually all of it was related to the damage caused by Sandy. There may have been some pork in an earlier Senate version, but many of those items were removed before final passage. There were also some items that appear to have been misunderstood.
I don't know if there is actual proof yet or not, if not, proof will come eventually, it's just a matter of time.Quote: HomelessnycIf you have such hard proof why do I need to go research to prove it for you?
If i am going to research it will be to prove you wrong which is what happened. Now your feelings are hurt.
Please look up the definition of homophobic before you make yourself look even more foolish
I'm not gay, but I know damn well people don't have a choice what sex they are attracted to. You can choose to resist acting it, but that's just silly IMO and no one should have to live like that.
I don't know how anyone in their right mind with any real logic nowadays can think its a choice. Most gay people say they knew they were different when they were young and show signs of it. I don't know how a young person can make a choice like that when they don't really know anything about sexuality.
I don't know why any young male who's in a family that's vehemently against being gay would choose to be gay and have to hide while living with fear and shame.
What kid would choose to be gay and risk ridicule from their friend's, siblings, kids from the neighborhood, groups or classmates?
There are people who desperately don't want to be gay, people who even resort to killing themselves over it.
There are countries where it's punishable by death.
Yet some people think it's a choice?
Use your brain.
Being gay isn't a choice, but driving a gay car is.
Quote: RomesAh, a true trumper. Ignore and deflect any question/issue directly related to trump with something about someone else =).
Proud Trumper, no debate there. BUT you said you get away with it if your rich and white. Maybe Trump got away with it but not everyone does. Besides many of the Left want to argue Trump isn't even rich.
Your President-Elect becomes your President, and all those c-words shut their cock holsters right up is what happened, because they are liars.
Quote: AxelWolf
Yet some people think it's a choice? Use your brain.
Being gay isn't a choice, but driving a gay car is.
Off-topic,
My daughter is also gay, and it wasn't a choice for her. When she came out, I wasn't happy. Not because she was gay, but because she chose to go through the difficulty of unnecessarily declaring her sexuality. What I didn't understand was that coming out is getting over that risk of being ridiculed and just being who she is, not about covering up or being embarrassed by something that is natural, that they were born with.
And I'm a Christian, and I have spoken to my pastors who used to talk about how Jesus would go to the gay community and tell them that they should all "straighten up". I told them that Jesus would probably be far more concerned with getting people to just believe in Him and would be far more concerned with poverty, war, hate, divorce, infidelity, and disease over people who love each other despite the fact that they may be garnished with a vagina instead of a penis. They stopped.
Talk to homosexuals, and ask them if they just chose to be that way.
Back to Trump, who tweeted 5 years ago, as Obama visited Sandy (likely with Chris Christie):
Quote: @RealDonaldTrump, 31 Oct 2012, 10:06am
"More Not only giving out money, but Obama will be seen today standing in water and rain like he is a real President --- don't fall for it.
Quote: RomesNot if you're rich and white... Didn't Donald get RECORDED saying he raped women by making sexual advances on them and he didn't care because he's famous? What were the consequences of that free speech?
IIRC, it seemed like he said they (the women) didn't care because he's rich/famous. I don't know about those women specifically, but it seems like (some/many) women are like that. There are plenty of women gold diggers out there.
I thought y'all thought Trump wasn't rich and that he's orange, not white?
Quote: RSIIRC, it seemed like he said they (the women) didn't care because he's rich/famous. I don't know about those women specifically, but it seems like (some/many) women are like that. There are plenty of women gold diggers out there.
I thought y'all thought Trump wasn't rich and that he's orange, not white?
Actually grabbing a woman by the crotch and then saying well she wanted it ( for whatever reason including being famous) is classic rapist mentality
Quote: RomesNot if you're rich and white... Didn't Donald get RECORDED saying he raped women by making sexual advances on them and he didn't care because he's famous? What were the consequences of that free speech?
Dude, I have to come back to this. You honestly can't question what you said was stupid as hell. And I know enough to understand you are not stupid. Granted, your continued repeating of the same thing about variance over and over again to a true idiot might make someone question you. But I respect the people who say you are the real deal when it comes to what you do for a living, so I would be the idiot if I questioned your intelligence and common sense. .
So to refresh your memory, you said you can get away with saying anything if you are rich and white. And I came back with a common example, of which there are many that prove your statement wrong.
But you come back saying I am a typical Trumper, which I am, saying I deflected the subject. Maybe I'm dense, but please explain how I didn't answer you question with an example that proved you wrong.
I look forward to your answer, without putting Trump in the answer. Thanks man!
Quote: RSI thought y'all thought Trump wasn't rich and that he's orange, not white?
He's a white man who paints himself orange.
As for how rich he is, who knows? He's obviously rich (I don't know many poor men who own 757s), but is he as rich as he claims to be? I doubt it.
Quote: RogerKintYeah, yeah, yeah. Can you get back to fighting? I don't come here to read about two people getting along.
I was planning on a rebuttal at some point, but I wouldn't feel right throwing any punches now with Boz's hands tied behind his back.
Quote: gamerfreakI was planning on a rebuttal at some point, but I wouldn't feel right throwing any punches now with Boz's hands tied behind his back.
Yea it's a shame he insults someone and gets a 7 day ban.
Someone insults me multiple times and nothing happens.
Not that it will make a difference but I'm going to sit out 7 days in silent protest.
Quote: HomelessnycIf you have such hard proof why do i need to go research to prove it for you?
If i am going to research it will be to prove you wrong which is what happened. Now your feelings are hurt.
Please look up the definition of homophobic before you make yourself look even more foolish
I don't need proof.. I know it to be true! And there's no proving me wrong on this topic.
And before you make yourself look more foolish... Webster's Dictionary: Homophobic: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals.
That fits you to a tee. Note that none of these words listed translate to "hate" which is what you said I described you as. That is the last time I Google something for you. You're on your own from here.
I don't like onions but I don't have a fear for them.
Quote: darkozActually grabbing a woman by the crotch and then saying well she wanted it ( for whatever reason including being famous) is classic rapist mentality
What if she did want it and that's the truth?
Maybe he had just watched Crocodile Dundee?Quote: RSWhat if she did want it and that's the truth?
You can't seriously be advocating/protecting trump in this scenario where he openly talked about assaulting and raping women... can you? And no, as darkoz mentioned (like it's not on the internet and recorded for you to go listen to again):Quote: RSIIRC, it seemed like he said they (the women) didn't care because he's rich/famous. I don't know about those women specifically, but it seems like (some/many) women are like that. There are plenty of women gold diggers out there.
I thought y'all thought Trump wasn't rich and that he's orange, not white?
Quote: darkozActually grabbing a woman by the crotch and then saying well she wanted it ( for whatever reason including being famous) is classic rapist mentality
lol you have to just be trolling this thread. I've thought that for quite a while now... So are you gonna go out and just start grabbing girls by the p*ssy because "hey, what if she did want it???"Quote: RSWhat if she did want it and that's the truth?
We could have an endless "here's an example of a rich white guy getting away with it..." then you "and here's another example of them not..." etc. The focus of the thread is on Donald Trump. Thus, why I made a particular meaning to put him directly to the words of his supporters throughout the thread. You were showing that some guy was fired as a consequence of what he said (in reference to trump) and I brought up how the same rules clearly don't apply to Trump given that he was recorded saying MUCH WORSE right before the election and now he's the president. It directly shows that trumpers don't care what he says or does. He can be a vile POS human being and trumpers will still just blindly follow him. Trump IS the focus of this thread and should be what we're talking about. His words and his own actions make him a POS, in my opinion... "on many sides."Quote: BozDude, I have to come back to this. You honestly can't question what you said was stupid as hell. And I know enough to understand you are not stupid. Granted, your continued repeating of the same thing about variance over and over again to a true idiot might make someone question you. But I respect the people who say you are the real deal when it comes to what you do for a living, so I would be the idiot if I questioned your intelligence and common sense. .
So to refresh your memory, you said you can get away with saying anything if you are rich and white. And I came back with a common example, of which there are many that prove your statement wrong.
But you come back saying I am a typical Trumper, which I am, saying I deflected the subject. Maybe I'm dense, but please explain how I didn't answer you question with an example that proved you wrong.
I look forward to your answer, without putting Trump in the answer. Thanks man!
I do appreciate the compliment sandwich, I think... and the reason I keep pushing variance is because I've been chatting with, and trying to help him since he was in PA...
People have to make choices. Being president is way more than about the person. It's the morals and ethics behind the party and the position as well.
A lot of people feel that something had to happen with immigration and that HRC and the Dem policies are going too far to harbor illegal immigrants, for example. A lot of people felt that something had to happen with health care and the HRC and the Dem policies were going too much in the wrong direction, increasing coverages without finding a way to reduce costs and provide relief to those who are insured and their businesses. A lot of people felt that Obama was not tough enough when it came to foreign policy and that he made bad decisions and felt that HRC would have been more of the same. A lot of people felt that Obama was not helping the recovery effort with the last recession and that his policies slowed recovery and that HRC would have been more of the same. A lot of people felt racial strife should have been reduced or eliminated under Obama's leadership and the racial unrest would not have improved under HRC.
There were plenty of reasons not to vote for HRC last November, and despite the s**tstorm that is DJT, he won the election because people would have rather had a unpredictable shaker over the same-old crap.
That said, there is still the Russia investigation and DJT's ongoing business dealings that could have him impeached.
The inability to redo healthcare however has shown that all branches of government are incompetent and that Trump's political ineptitude is hurting his ability to compromise and get meaningful legislature passed.
Quote: RomesYou can't seriously be advocating/protecting trump in this scenario where he openly talked about assaulting and raping women... can you? And no, as darkoz mentioned (like it's not on the internet and recorded for you to go listen to again):
lol you have to just be trolling this thread. I've thought that for quite a while now... So are you gonna go out and just start grabbing girls by the p*ssy because "hey, what if she did want it???"
It's not that far fetched of a concept. No, I'm not trolling. I wouldn't do it because "what if she wanted it?", but if I wanted to do it and she wanted it, then I see no problem with it.....that's how consent works, right?
And from Trumps audio he clearly stated he had no idea if they wanted it or not... He just did it without consent... So with your good understanding of consent, you should also be willing to admit trump is a serial rapist by now.Quote: RSIt's not that far fetched of a concept. No, I'm not trolling. I wouldn't do it because "what if she wanted it?", but if I wanted to do it and she wanted it, then I see no problem with it.....that's how consent works, right?
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A lot of people feel that something had to happen with immigration and that HRC and the Dem policies are going too far to harbor illegal immigrants, for example. A lot of people felt that something had to happen with health care and the HRC and the Dem policies were going too much in the wrong direction, increasing coverages without finding a way to reduce costs and provide relief to those who are insured and their businesses. A lot of people felt that Obama was not tough enough when it came to foreign policy and that he made bad decisions and felt that HRC would have been more of the same. A lot of people felt that Obama was not helping the recovery effort with the last recession and that his policies slowed recovery and that HRC would have been more of the same. A lot of people felt racial strife should have been reduced or eliminated under Obama's leadership and the racial unrest would not have improved under HRC.
I know you think this makes sense, but 3 million more people still voted for Hillary. You have to explain that away if you think it was because of wide policy disagreement.
I don't disagree on some points of weakness.
