Trump's Final 100 days
Quote: gamerfreakIm not sure why volunteering would be considered a non-liberal thing to do. It's almost like making blanket statements towards an entire group isn't accurate.
I'm a volunteer firefighter/EMT and generally consider myself pretty far left on most topics.
The comment had nothing to do with his volunteering. It is about his receiving subsidized HC by limiteing his income. He proudly stated he is only following the law and his substantial assets do not count toward his qualification for the help. Of course he is 100% correct and is doing nothing wrong. So Billy could be worth $10,000,000 yet still get government help. Sounds like what liberals always complain about.
And we need more volunteers from all walks of life, so congratulations on your service.
Or maybe a joke.
Quote: RomesSeriously? I get that no one should be hired/fired because they're christian, or muslim, etc... but you can't be seriously saying "Hey, I know Jerry is in the KKK and thinks Dave, whom is black, should be hung from a tree, but at least he doesn't say that at work?" That is NOT okay, in any capacity.
We literally had a war about this... Sounds like we need to have another one to finish off the remaining solders that are again gearing and grouping up. Ironically trump would probably lose about 80% of his remaining supporters if this were to happen...
I disagree. Your political beliefs, including your right of peaceful protest, is not your employer's business. Violent protest, and committing crimes, no. Just because you attend an alt-right rally (or any rally) doesn't mean you can't perform your job properly.
Suppose your job is a car salesman, and a portion of your clients are Jewish, does you being a known Nazi effect the business?
Would being photographed at a White Supremacist rally ?
Maybe losing your job would be the reality check you need.
Or you could be a little boy and keep blaming others for your own shortcomings.
Quote: billryanIf your off work activities negatively effect your employers business or reputation, are you doing your job properly?
Suppose your job is a car salesman, and a portion of your clients are Jewish, does you being a known Nazi effect the business?
Would being photographed at a White Supremacist rally ?
Maybe losing your job would be the reality check you need.
Or you could be a little boy and keep blaming others for your own shortcomings.
You being at a rally against removing a confederate symbol does not make you a Nazi or a white supremacist. It means you made a stupid decision. Just we because we now have the ability to out people on social media doesn't mean that you should lose your job. I am certain that employers of these outed people have decisions to make. But I would urge these employers to allow their employees to make an explanation and then decide.
Quote: boymimboI disagree. Your political beliefs, including your right of peaceful protest, is not your employer's business. Violent protest, and committing crimes, no. Just because you attend an alt-right rally (or any rally) doesn't mean you can't perform your job properly.
Employment in the U.S. is at-will. Henry's farts are stinking up the office? Cya. Julia can't seem to make a new pot of coffee after she takes the last cup EVERY SINGLE TIME? There's the door. God damnit Julia.
Obviously it's usually in the employers best interest to be more reasonable than those examples, but the point is that they really don't need a good reason, or any reason at all to sack someone (with a few exceptions).
Every employee represents their employer at some level. I'd absolutely bag someone working for me if I found out they were attending Klan cookouts on the weekend. They're nothing but a liability at that point.
Quote: boymimboYou being at a rally against removing a confederate symbol does not make you a Nazi or a white supremacist. It means you made a stupid decision. Just we because we now have the ability to out people on social media doesn't mean that you should lose your job. I am certain that employers of these outed people have decisions to make. But I would urge these employers to allow their employees to make an explanation and then decide.
Don't fall for trumps bs. This wasn't a rally to protest the removal of a statue. This was a call to arms for the Alt- Right, advertised as the biggest White Nationalism Rally in the last 50 years. There were no fine folks chanting "Jews will not replace us" and " Blood and Soil."
Please take the time to read this article.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/14/opinion/why-the-nazis-came-to-charlottesville.html
Every employee has a value to a company. If your value is higher, you get more breaks. If you are a low valued, easily replaced employee, best watch your ass.
Quote: boymimboYou being at a rally against removing a confederate symbol does not make you a Nazi or a white supremacist. It means you made a stupid decision. Just we because we now have the ability to out people on social media doesn't mean that you should lose your job. I am certain that employers of these outed people have decisions to make. But I would urge these employers to allow their employees to make an explanation and then decide.
Stupid decision or not
Businesses have a right to do what's best for their business. If they think having a certain employee on the payroll is hurting business, then you get rid of that employee. Its the responsible thing to do to stay in business. This cuts both ways. NFL refuses to hire Colin Kapernick for the same reason. They dont want to offend their customers. Companies dont want employees that ofend their customers regardless if its Colin or a Nazi
I'm starting to get the sneaking suspicion that all of the Trumps just aren't good people...
Quote: billryanTen million? That's an insult.
Or maybe a joke.
Typical liberal, everything is an insult to you. As I clearly stated, I am insulted that you collect government benefits you don't need. But I respect that you found a way to f the average working American by using a bad law to your advantage. Do you have any advice for others on how to also collect so called "food stamps"?
Like most people when it comes down to politics, it's obvious your opposition to Trump is based on one issue, the threat to your free ride. You really are not that much different than the Koch brothers in the end.
Quote: BozTypical liberal, everything is an insult to you. As I clearly stated, I am insulted that you collect government benefits you don't need. But I respect that you found a way to f the average working American by using a bad law to your advantage. Do you have any advice for others on how to also collect so called "food stamps"?
Like most people when it comes down to politics, it's obvious your opposition to Trump is based on one issue, the threat to your free ride. You really are not that much different than the Koch brothers in the end.
You are clearly very angry. That's not healthy. You should see someone about that.
Quote: BozTypical liberal, everything is an insult to you. As I clearly stated, I am insulted
Hmmm....
Quote: RSLike I've said before, I don't think the media should be able to have this strong of a hold on the people by lying and manipulating the facts.
What lies and fact manipulation did you witness this morning on MSNBC?
Quote: Boz
Like most people when it comes down to politics, it's obvious your opposition to Trump is based on one issue, the threat to your free ride. .
I consider myself "most people"
I lean left. I oppose Trump
Never taken a govt handout. Never been on unemployment.
I work hard.
All my lib friends work hard and don't take any govt hand outs
Quote: ams288What lies and fact manipulation did you witness this morning on MSNBC?
They keep making it seem like Trump said Nazis & white supremacists are good people.
They're saying he didn't conemn Nazis & WS's (short for white supremacist) and are making it seem like he's putting all the blame on the left / alt-left. Not to mention they're saying he's supporting Nazis & WS's.
Then they talk on these points, as if what they just said is true, making more points based on lies. Basically a strawman argument.
Quote: RSNot to mention they're saying he's supporting Nazis & WS's.
Then they talk on these points, as if what they just said is true, making more points based on lies. Basically a strawman argument.
Check with David Duke
He completely agrees that Trump is supporting his groups
The far right and the left both say Trump is supporting white supremacists
Quote: terapinedCheck with David Duke
He completely agrees that Trump is supporting his groups
The far right and the left both say Trump is supporting white supremacists
People are going to interpret things the way they want to.
A roulette martingaler might have a 99% chance to have a winning session and a 1% losing session. He can interpret that as he has a winning system because that's what he wants to see.
Quote: RSI should start waking up early to watch MSNBC, because this is some of the stupidest stuff I've seen in a while. I'd say unbelievable, but this is pretty much what you'd expect for (from?) them. Like I've said before, I don't think the media should be able to have this strong of a hold on the people by lying and manipulating the facts.
I never watched anti Obama Fox for 8 years
Never complained about anti-Obama Fox
RS watches MSNBC and is complaining
Amazing
Don't like it, don't watch it
I never complained about Fox. RS having a cow over MSNBC
ROTFL
Quote: RSPeople are going to interpret things the way they want to.
Again David Duke, far right leader, says Trump supports his white supremacists
This is the right saying this
Quote: terapinedStupid decision or not
Businesses have a right to do what's best for their business. If they think having a certain employee on the payroll is hurting business, then you get rid of that employee. Its the responsible thing to do to stay in business. This cuts both ways. NFL refuses to hire Colin Kapernick for the same reason. They dont want to offend their customers. Companies dont want employees that ofend their customers regardless if its Colin or a Nazi
Thanks for the reasonable responses. I agree that employment is at-will but you can sue for wrongful termination. What happens in the case where someone identified got it wrong?
Quote: rsactuaryYou are clearly very angry. That's not healthy. You should see someone about that.
Thanks for your expert opinion. Only angry about what I see going on around me. How the average working American on both sides continues to get screwed by special interest and those who take and don't give.
The person I have the issue with here bragged how he is clearly very wealthy, has the ability to continue to make large amounts of money yet has chosen not to. No one should find fault with that decision. It's part of the so called "American Dream". But he has also stated he still has corporate ownership and income but has found legal ways to earn that money in a way that allows him to get subsidized Health Care. I am not sure how many can agree that is healthy for the country long term. Someone is paying for his insurance subsidies.
I guess to him it is like finding an EV play at a casino and the only person being hurt is the casino who allows it to happen. It's why many of us come here to learn how to do it. The debate is, is that also OK to do to your fellow taxpayers? Maybe I'm on the wrong side of this, and most think it's great he is OK with it.
But again Thanks for your opinion. Like most liberals, I appreciate you knowing whats best for me. Now go get your shinebox.
Quote: terapinedI consider myself "most people"
I lean left. I oppose Trump
Never taken a govt handout. Never been on unemployment.
I work hard.
All my lib friends work hard and don't take any govt hand outs
That is something to be proud of. And I also include you in the group of people being hurt by those who do and don't deserve it. Sure the world isn't fair, but there should be efforts to make a more level playing field for everyone, left and right. And the right has more than it's share of takers.
Quote: terapinedAgain David Duke, far right leader, says Trump supports his white supremacists
This is the right saying this
You and I both know all politicians have had supporters they don't want. Obama had more than his share too. Bill Ayers, Reverend Wright and others quickly come to mind.
Quote: BozThat is something to be proud of. And I also include you in the group of people being hurt by those who do and don't deserve it. Sure the world isn't fair, but there should be efforts to make a more level playing field for everyone, left and right. And the right has more than it's share of takers.
Where have I ever bragged about being wealthy?
I am actually entitled to free health care for life, but choose not to take it right now as that system is pretty overwhelmed.
As I told you before, jealousy and anger are hard on a person. If your life isn't going the way you want, look in the mirror and stop blaming others.
Get a puppy, get laid, get therapy, maybe get a better source of income.
Just get some help. Angry and jealous is no way to go through life.
The protesters themselves were well-organized, prepared for violence, and were there to more than make a statement about General Lee's monument being removed. They were mainly represented by fascists, bigots, and racists who really do not have a place in progressive America anymore.
The main opposition of the rally was organized by churches in and around Charlottesville and was mainly attended by ordinary citizens of Charlottesville. On top of that, anti-fascist groups (and anti-capitalist groups) attended the event and increased the volatile nature of the event to the point where there was brawling and open violence on the streets.
One doesn't know how the main opposition to the rally would have fared without the anti-fascist groups being there. Not well, I suppose. We will never know. But the victims of the demonstration and of the violence itself are clearly minorities and the repressed.
Should the counter-protesters just let the protest happen with no opposition? I would have hoped that things would have been peaceful. But when someone is spouting violent and ethically wrong views (essentially hate speech), people feel compelled to immediately respond. One side is clearly right, the other clearly wrong. This was not a rally of anti-capitalists.
To those defending Trump today for his words yesterday: the words have been denounced by everyone except for David Duke's group and the far right. And while I suspect that Trump himself is not a white nationalist, his views and his overall view of blaming both sides sets up for more violence this summer instead of marginalizing a group to be clearly wrong (the white supremacists).
This is why confederate symbols are being taken down throughout the country today. The confederate symbols, by the way, aren't the problem. Most people can appreciate history and symbolism. Statues commemorating historical events (despite being on the wrong site) are just that, unmoving, unwavering statues. They should be there to remind people of the past and of the history. Instead, these symbols have become lightning rods for a revival of the ideals of yesteryear - the Ku Klux Klan, Hitler, and slavery. The symbols are not the problem. The people using these symbols to advance their views are. And that's why they are coming down, for now. Perhaps there will be a time in the future when they can go back up, and people can look at these statues and say, "Yeah, that's who we WERE".
Quote: BozThat is something to be proud of. And I also include you in the group of people being hurt by those who do and don't deserve it. Sure the world isn't fair, but there should be efforts to make a more level playing field for everyone, left and right. And the right has more than it's share of takers.
Level playing field? That has different meanings to everyone. Level playing field, to me, include famous left slogans like: "equal pay for equal work", "welfare for the disadvantaged", "single-payer health care", "socialism", "communism", etc.
To you, I suspect that means different slogans that are anti-government and capitalist in nature.
It doesn't mean you can or can't perform you job, but it does say a lot about your character which I wouldn't want at my company.Quote: boymimboI disagree. Your political beliefs, including your right of peaceful protest, is not your employer's business. Violent protest, and committing crimes, no. Just because you attend an alt-right rally (or any rally) doesn't mean you can't perform your job properly.
Hey, a serial murder can perform a front office assistant job too... wanna hire them?
What if you're interviewing someone and they voluntarily mention to you that their religion involves traveling to a 3rd world country and murdering children once per year. Hey, their beliefs shouldn't affect their ability to do the job, right? HIRED, right???
Not only should neo-nazi and other racist supremacists be fired, they should be dealt with as though they are the UNSURRENDERING troops from the civil war... How did we deal with the unsurrendering violent racist troops back then? We fought and killed them. THAT is why we don't have slavery and neo-nazi's running our country today and I'm proud that we did that, and believe we need to do it again.
Quote: RSPeople are going to interpret things the way they want to.
Quote: terapinedAgain David Duke, far right leader, says Trump supports his white supremacists
This is the right saying this
Quote: BozReverend Wright .
The Rev impresses me
He has made huge accomplishments in life I can only dream of
A marine.
So trusted, he was on the medical team that operated on the President of the USA, LBJ
Very few people are as accomplished as the REV
Quote: RSThey keep making it seem like Trump said Nazis & white supremacists are good people.
Well, he specifically said there was "fine people" marching on the Nazi side.
Quote: gamerfreakWell, he specifically said there was "fine people" marching on the Nazi side.
Rewatch a video (plenty on YouTube) without interruptions or breaks, IE: don't watch it from a news clip where they talk about it or a YouTuber who comments on it.
Quote: gamerfreakWell, he specifically said there was "fine people" marching on the Nazi side.
Yup.
Quote: billryanWhere have I ever bragged about being wealthy?
I am actually entitled to free health care for life, but choose not to take it right now as that system is pretty overwhelmed.
As I told you before, jealousy and anger are hard on a person. If your life isn't going the way you want, look in the mirror and stop blaming others.
Get a puppy, get laid, get therapy, maybe get a better source of income.
Just get some help. Angry and jealous is no way to go through life.
Nor is effing the American Taxpayer, but both of us seem to be doing just fine. And I appreciate you stealing my often used line about looking in the mirror when people want to find out why their life has turned out the way it has.
I blame you for nothing, you have made it very clear what kind of person you are and where your moral compass lies. Saying anything else would risk a suspension and honestly you just are not worth it. You take care Billy and keep up your hated of the President, it really keeps you from following your own advice. Angry and jealous is no way to go through life.
You amuse me. For that, I thank you.
Quote: RS
Rewatch a video (plenty on YouTube) without interruptions or breaks, IE: don't watch it from a news clip where they talk about it or a YouTuber who comments on it.
Quote: Trump transcript, without prejudice
You have some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group — excuse me, excuse me — I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.
Reporter: Do you support white nationalists, then?
[Cross talk. Reporters shout questions.]
Trump: Well, George Washington was a slave owner. Was George Washington a slave owner? So, will George Washington now lose his status? Are we going to take down- Excuse me. Are we going to take down, are we going to take down statues to George Washington? How about Thomas Jefferson? What do you think of Thomas Jefferson? You like him?
Reporter: I do love Thomas Jefferson-
Trump: OK, good. Well, are we going to take down the statue? Because he was a major slave owner. Now, are we going to take down his statue? So, you know what? It's fine. You're changing history. You're changing culture and you had people, and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists because they should be condemned, totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists, OK? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly. Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people, but you also had troublemakers and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets and with the baseball bats. You got a lot of bad people in the other group, too.
Reporter: Who was treated unfairly? Sir, I'm sorry I don't understand what you were saying. You were saying the press has treated white nationalists unfairly? I just don't understand what you were saying.
Trump: No. No. There were people in that rally — and I looked the night before. If you look, there were people protesting very quietly the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee. I'm sure in that group there were some bad ones. The following day it looked like they had some rough, bad people: neo-Nazis, white nationalists, whatever you want to call them. But you had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest — and very legally protest, because you know- I don't know if you know, they had a permit. The other group didn't have a permit. So, I only tell you this. There are two sides to a story. I thought what took place was a horrible moment for our country, a horrible moment. But there are two sides to the country.
He said quite clearly that the white nationalist group clearly had fine people in it.
Note the last horrific sentence, equating bigotry and white supremacy with "the other side".
Quote: RomesIt doesn't mean you can or can't perform you job, but it does say a lot about your character which I wouldn't want at my company.
Hey, a serial murder can perform a front office assistant job too... wanna hire them?
What if you're interviewing someone and they voluntarily mention to you that their religion involves traveling to a 3rd world country and murdering children once per year. Hey, their beliefs shouldn't affect their ability to do the job, right? HIRED, right???
Not only should neo-nazi and other racist supremacists be fired, they should be dealt with as though they are the UNSURRENDERING troops from the civil war... How did we deal with the unsurrendering violent racist troops back then? We fought and killed them. THAT is why we don't have slavery and neo-nazi's running our country today and I'm proud that we did that, and believe we need to do it again.
One thing that worries me is the slap/dash environment driven by the Internet and the rush to hourly 24 hour news. Or ask any school kid who gets a bad rumor started about him/her that starts going viral?
Consider Nazi Germany and the aftermath. The Jews were punished for almost always false accusations. Afterwards, the trials of Nazis, the evidence portion was very methodical. Which was the correct method. You also have the lesson of McCarthyism. One loon with a microphone can do a lot of damage to people's lives. Or more recently pizzagate..
We have to be careful where we are going. Lots of people want to read controversial books for good reasons, to increase their understanding of something. The day you decide to actually take a stab at something controversial, you don't want coworkers find a copy and go overboard.
Just sayin'
Quote: rxwineOne thing that worries me is the slap/dash environment driven by the Internet and the rush to hourly 24 hour news. Or ask any school kid who gets a bad rumor started about him/her that starts going viral?
Consider Nazi Germany and the aftermath. The Jews were punished for almost always false accusations. Afterwards, the trials of Nazis, the evidence portion was very methodical. Which was the correct method. You also have the lesson of McCarthyism. One loon with a microphone can do a lot of damage to people's lives. Or more recently pizzagate..
We have to be careful where we are going. Lots of people want to read controversial books for good reasons, to increase their understanding of something. The day you decide to actually take a stab at something controversial, you don't want coworkers find a copy and go overboard.
Just sayin'
March in a Nazi rally , carrying a torch and you don't leave people much wiggle room on your character.
Nazi's are bad.
People who march side by side with Nazi's are bad
People who defend nazi's are bad.
People who sit by and don't do anything about this are cowards.
Stand with people of good will or stand with David Duke and his ilk.
Quote: billryanMarch in a Nazi rally , carrying a torch and you don't leave people much wiggle room on your character.
Nazi's are bad.
People who march side by side with Nazi's are bad
People who defend nazi's are bad.
People who sit by and don't do anything about this are cowards.
Stand with people of good will or stand with David Duke and his ilk.
Well,, I'm saying be careful. Being careful is not going to kill people (usually)
Terapined who is likely not a Trump supporter could have been mistaken as a Trump supporter as there was an opportunity to photograph him at a Trump rally. He once talked about visiting one out of curiosity.
If I hadn't read his posts, I might think so if I saw such a picture.
Not all trump supporters are white supremacist, but all white supremacist seem to be trump supporters.
Plenty of people of good will voted for trump, but so did a lot of people with evil in their hearts, and trump seems to feel sympathetic to them.
Quote: boymimbo
This is why confederate symbols are being taken down throughout the country today. The confederate symbols, by the way, aren't the problem. Most people can appreciate history and symbolism. Statues commemorating historical events (despite being on the wrong site) are just that, unmoving, unwavering statues. They should be there to remind people of the past and of the history. Instead, these symbols have become lightning rods for a revival of the ideals of yesteryear - the Ku Klux Klan, Hitler, and slavery. The symbols are not the problem. The people using these symbols to advance their views are. And that's why they are coming down, for now. Perhaps there will be a time in the future when they can go back up, and people can look at these statues and say, "Yeah, that's who we WERE".
Quote: rxwine
We have to be careful where we are going. Lots of people want to read controversial books for good reasons, to increase their understanding of something. The day you decide to actually take a stab at something controversial, you don't want coworkers find a copy and go overboard.
Quoted both because I like rx's post in relation to boymimbo's.
You don't acquiesce to c#$%s. Someone wants to cry that it hurts their feelings, it's on them to toughen up. Someone wants to use it as a power source to fuel their evil, it's on civil folk to beat them down (figuratively, or whatever). When in the f#$% did the US become a pandering new parent catering to every goddamn whim of every pussystick and f#$%boi in the GD country?
This s#$% is ridiculous. It's not the media's fault; they play what sells and apparently it's you that's buying. It ain't some retards still blaming the Jews for...something. And it damn sure ain't Trump's fault. A man that simple cannot have that much effect alone.
I find it rather interesting to watch. So quick are folks to label this "evil" and that "OK", when often the very criticism levied to prove the evil can be used for both causes. Just look at Romes' impassioned post. I wonder if he realizes that every word he said also applies to me. Senecas fought for the British, after all, and we don't all live in the United States of England. Fought a war, check. Lost the war, check. Have commemorations erected, check. Still fly our flag, check. Should I motherf#$% Romes and challenge him to a knife fight with our respective properties the spoils? Or should he get his chisel and start deconstructing the Monument of Crazy Horse?
It's bloody insane. If you want to rid the world of anything that can be taken negatively, prepare to have nothing. Andrew Jackson was a bastard, still gotta look at his face any time you make a purchase. Washington owned slaves. The "Great Emancipator" was also quite the son of a bitch himself. I don't suspect even Billryan knows of the atrocities committed by everyone's favorite Republican. Columbus? A tyrant. We, us, the United States, have done and continue to do some horrific, terrible things in the name of... something. But we blame Ted Kaczinski and make no mention of MKUltra. Who here knows about that, or human testing on ignorant patients, or info cover ups to "see what happens"? And those that do, how many have cancelled their 4th of July in protest?
I'm getting ramble-y because I'm still not saying what I need to, but I'm gonna stop because it must not want to be said. I'll just leave with this...
Quote: AnonYou have a bit of "Save the World" in you, and that's great. But I want you to know it is OK if you just save one person, and it is OK if that person is you.
Have a great day.
Meanwhile:
- the Russia investigation continues
- NAFTA negotiations have started
- There is no movement on Tax Reform
- There is no movement on HealthCare
- many key positions at key departments remain unfilled (124 of 577 only filled), including many key vacancies at State, Justice, and Defense.
All of this self-inflicted, and not by main-stream media.
Quote: FaceIt's bloody insane. If you want to rid the world of anything that can be taken negatively, prepare to have nothing. Andrew Jackson was a bastard, still gotta look at his face any time you make a purchase. Washington owned slaves. (...) Columbus? A tyrant.
Jackson? Being replaced on the front of the $20 by Harriet Tubman.
Washington? The head of San Francisco's school board asked that the city's Washington High School have its name changed. Never mind that another high school there is named after one of the great gerrymander architects of our time, Phil Burton (why, yes, he was a Democrat - how about that?).
Columbus? Look up "indigenous people's day" and "Native Americans day" to see how quite a few people feel about how he is "honored."
How about Thomas Jefferson? Oh, wait - the "Jefferson-Jackson Dinner" had its name changed because Jefferson owned slaves.
Maybe he can bring in some of the "very fine people" from Friday night's March.
Quote: billryanThere isn't anything inherently evil about being a trump supporter or attending a trump rally. That's very different than participating in a Nazi led torch lit procession.
Not all trump supporters are white supremacist, but all white supremacist seem to be trump supporters.
Plenty of people of good will voted for trump, but so did a lot of people with evil in their hearts, and trump seems to feel sympathetic to them.
My point was about mistaken assumptions.
Once in awhile, I'm almost absolutely positively certain of something and still turn out to be wrong. Not very often, but it happens.
A classic troll.
And these are people who actually supposed to have had a trial.
Quote:Fast facts:
1989: The first DNA exoneration took place
37: States where exonerations have been won
20 of 351 people exonerated served time on death row
14: Average length of time served by exonerees
4,788: Total number of years served
26.5: Average age of exonerees at the time of their wrongful conviction
42.5: Average age at exoneration
38 of 351: Pled guilty to crimes they did not commit
71%: Involved eyewitness misidentification
41% of these cases were a cross-racial misidentification
32% of these cases involved multiple misidentifications of the same person
27% of these cases involved misidentification through the use of a composite sketch
45%: Involved misapplication of forensic science
28%: Involved false confessions
52% of the false confessors were 21 years old or younger at the time of arrest
35% of the false confessors were 18 years old or younger at the time of arrest
10% of the false confessors had mental health or mental capacity issues
17%: Involved informants
256: DNA exonerees compensated
183: DNA exonerations worked on by the Innocence Project
150: True suspects and/or perpetrators identified. Those actual perpetrators went on to be convicted of 147 additional violent crimes, including 77 sexual assaults, 35 murders, and 35 other violent crimes while the innocent sat behind bars for their earlier offenses.
