Quote: MaxPenHow ridiculous do you feel biting on every single dead end, contrived and amateur conspiracy theory about Trump since election day?
Everything should be investigated
I yawned during the long long ongoing Benghazi investigation
Kenneth Starr investigation. I was ok with it
Why is the right complaining about investigations
I am all right with the Right investigating the left
Why are those on the right having a cow over an investigation
I don't trust a single soul in DC. INVESTIGATE
Quote: MaxPenHow ridiculous do you feel biting on every single dead end, contrived and amateur conspiracy theory about Trump since election day?
not nearly as ridiculous as a person posting a picture of Obama dressed as a Muslim suggesting he is a Muslim when he has declared himself a Christian and regularly attends a Christian Church. the picture further suggest that being Muslim is a bad thing. that's why the picture is so very important to people such as yourself. you and your fellow conpiratorialists have cornered the market on ridiculousness.
Onward and upward to the next line of defense: "We were offered some help by Russian government agencies and we were happy to accept that help, but so what? What was wrong with us doing that? What statute did we break?"Quote: rsactuaryHow on earth did Don Jr think this would help his case? What an idiot, but I thank him for it.
Indeed didn't one GOP rep already admit to using Russia sourced voter data to help his campaign targeting activities and nothing came of that.
Quote: lilredroosternot nearly as ridiculous as a person posting a picture of Obama dressed as a Muslim suggesting he is a Muslim when he has declared himself a Christian and regularly attends a Christian Church. the picture further suggest that being Muslim is a bad thing.
Obama had 8 years to take our guns, destroy America, and institute a Sharia Marxist paradise. He did none of that. What a lousy President!
My favorite Presidential conspiracy theory has got to be G.W. Bush and the FEMA camps/coffins. I had a lot of fun with that one back in the mid-2000's. God, people are stupid.
They're trying to cancel or countermand thousands of regulations they see as anti-business:
Consumer protections in all directions.
Clean water mandates.
Clean air mandates.
Pesticide restrictions.
Spending on infrastructure.
National park protections.
National monument and historical site preservation.
Banking regulations.
Mortgage protections.
Patient bill of rights.
Passenger bill of rights.
Health care requirements.
Education requirements.
Others I haven't seen any write-ups about.
All under attack.
All happening in the shadows of the Russian spotlight. No oxygen left for these things, which in an otherwise sane environment, would be leading the news.
And all of them will ultimately affect us much more than whatever resolution comes from the Trump circus, even treason.
Quote: rsactuaryEven Faux News is all over this story.... and without their usual positive spin.
Hmm
Giving up on Trump and backing Pence?
ROFL
A gold star to whoever posts the best twitterverse response. It's just ripe.
A blast from the past.
I'm sure we're going to see some real hard-line journalism on this one. /s
Quote: rsactuaryHow on earth did Don Jr think this would help his case? What an idiot, but I thank him for it.
With different people testifying behind closed doors and more and more people under penalty of perjury, lots of people are going to have no choice either way.
They may or may not know what agencies have recorded conversations, documents turned over, people CYAing to save themselves.
the noose tightens
It will be interesting to watch, but will now call for a few bigger distractions.Quote: rxwineWith different people testifying behind closed doors and more and more people under penalty of perjury, lots of people are going to have no choice either way.
They may or may not know what agencies have recorded conversations, documents turned over, people CYAing to save themselves.
the noose tightens
Now let's see, what kind of attack or projection can trumpy come up with. He already proved he can't keep his dumb ass mouth shut. Maybe he'll post incriminating video of that Russian lady lawyer p1551ng on a bed. Kill two birds with one stone.
... or more seriously, a military distraction.
I agree, there will be some of his rats looking to save their own skins. Maybe there will be a few mysterious accidents, if there haven't already.
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... or more seriously, a military distraction.
ISIS is on it's last legs.
Lone wolf terrorists aren't as big a threat in the West as people give them credit for.
Syria is too messy what with Russia being involved.
I'm betting Trump has his fingers crossed for something to go down with North Korea, toot sweet. Maybe not even actual military actions, but possibly another Cuban Missile Crisis.
Here's another random prediction I just thought of: by the end of his term, Trump will declare "victory" in the Global War on Terrorism.
Well that happened in the time period between when Don Jr was involved with that email thread, and when the meeting was to take place.
That press conference ended up being delayed over a week, and when he finally had it, had nothing new to announce.
Quote: rsactuaryRemember during the campaign where Donald Trump announced that the following week he was going to hold a press conference on Hillary Clinton and reveal all the terrible things she and Bill have done? (CNN showed the clip of him saying that... it actually happened).
Well that happened in the time period between when Don Jr was involved with that email thread, and when the meeting was to take place.
That press conference ended up being delayed over a week, and when he finally had it, had nothing new to announce.
Total co-inky-dinky-dental.
Nothing to see here. Move along.
Quote: @realDonaldTrumpMy son, Donald, will be interviewed by @seanhannity tonight at 10:00 P.M. He is a great person who loves our country!
His heart barely seems in it...
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And all of them will ultimately affect us much more than whatever resolution comes from the Trump circus,
Shhhh..... that's the plan
Junior didn't know who he was meeting until the last minute.
Junior was investigating Clinton's ties to Russia (How ironic😜)
The meeting was short and she was full of nonsense.
There was never a 2nd meeting. That's it, 20 minutes of nonsense where Junior asked one question during entire meeting.
Don Jr. released his emails.
Hillary Clinton in order to hide her crimes tried deleting and destroying her emails. Yet, Wikileaks had many of them. She wanted to drone Assange and murder Seth Rich. She kept an illegal personal server with classified information in her basement to hide her crimes and the emails. Wiped, bleachbitted, and covered up information on her servers. Smashed and destroyed blackberries and ipads with hammers.
The kicker will be Comey up on charges. When will the DNC and reporters recognize their losses.
What's the next false narrative going to be?
Just another coincidence.
New details emerge on Moscow real estate deal that led to the Trump-Kremlin alliance
Michael IsikoffChief Investigative Correspondent,Yahoo News•July 11, 2017
While in Moscow for the Miss Universe pageant in November 2013, Donald Trump entered into a formal business deal with Aras Agalarov, a Russian oligarch close to Vladimir Putin, to construct a Trump Tower in the Russian capital. He later assigned his son, Donald Trump Jr., to oversee the project, according to Rob Goldstone, the British publicist who arranged the controversial 2016 meeting between the younger Trump and a Kremlin-linked lawyer.
Trump has dismissed the idea he had any business deals in Russia, saying at one point last October, “I have nothing to do with Russia.”
But Goldstone’s account, provided in an extensive interview in March in New York, offers new details of the proposed Trump project that appears to have been further along than most previous reports have suggested, and even included a trip by Ivanka Trump to Moscow to identify potential sites.
According to the publicist, the project — structured as a licensing deal in which Agalarov would build the tower with Trump’s name on it — was only abandoned after the Russian economy floundered. The economic downturn resulted in part from sanctions imposed by the U.S. and the European Union following Russia’s intervention in Ukraine.
Goldstone’s version of events implies a possible explanation for Trump’s interest in lifting sanctions on Russia — a policy move his administration quietly pursued in its first few weeks until it ran into strong opposition from members of Congress and officials within the State Department.
Goldstone placed Donald Trump Jr. at the center of the Trump Tower deal, saying that his father assigned his eldest son the job of moving the project to fruition after the signing of a “letter of intent” between the Trump Organization and Agalarov’s company, the Crocus Group. It is not clear if the future president personally signed the “letter of intent,” but Michael Cohen, a longtime lawyer for Trump, told Yahoo News Tuesday that it would have been standard practice for Trump, as president of the Trump Organization, to do so.
Quote: MaxPenHighlights from today;
Junior didn't know who he was meeting until the last minute.
Junior was investigating Clinton's ties to Russia (How ironic😜)
The meeting was short and she was full of nonsense.
There was never a 2nd meeting. That's it, 20 minutes of nonsense where Junior asked one question during entire meeting.
Don Jr. released his emails.
Let's go backwards on these.
Don Jr. had over a year to release his emails. Instead, he and all the other parties lied repeatedly the entire time. He "released" his emails after the NYT called and said, "We have your emails. Do you care to comment before we publish?" They published about an hour later.
So much for "transparency ".
How do you know there was never any second meeting, or other follow-up? Because those proven liars said so? C'mon, Max. Maybe that's true, but certainly not proven.
Re: length of meeting and value of content. See above.
Junior has less than ZERO standing to investigate Clinton. His intent was clear, as was the subject of the meeting. As a top Trump campaign member, his job was to report the contact to the FBI. Instead, he drew.in 2 other top campaign people, compounding the crime into a larger conspiracy. BTW, it strains credulity that Trump Sr. wasn't aware of this. Of course he was.
He knew who he was meeting: a Russian govt lawyer. He knew what she was offering. Oppo. That doesn't come without compensation; the price was easing restrictions on Russian business practices and trade.
Meeting was at 4pm. At 4:20, Trump Sr. tweets about Hillary ' s missing emails. Not a coincidence. Later come stolen emails via wikileaks.
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Hillary Clinton in order to hide her crimes tried deleting and destroying her emails. Yet, Wikileaks had many of them. She wanted to drone Assange and murder Seth Rich. She kept an illegal personal server with classified information in her basement to hide her crimes and the emails. Wiped, bleachbitted, and covered up information on her servers. Smashed and destroyed blackberries and ipads with hammers.
The kicker will be Comey up on charges. When will the DNC and reporters recognize their losses.
What's the next false narrative going to be?
Quote: bbbBTW, it strains credulity that Trump Sr. wasn't aware of this. Of course he was.
He was aware. Between the email and the meeting, trump sr announced that he had information to implicate the Clintons in crimes and would release it in a week (after the meeting) but not much came of that.
Quote: billryanThree years of President Pence will have us yearning for the good old days of 2017.
Agreed.
I was talking to someone at the gym yesterday ("locker room talk"). I said the worst thing that could happen right now for Dems would be for Donald to just resign and let Pence take over.
Quote: MaxPenHighlights from today;
Junior didn't know who he was meeting until the last minute.
Junior was investigating Clinton's ties to Russia (How ironic😜)
The meeting was short and she was full of nonsense.
There was never a 2nd meeting. That's it, 20 minutes of nonsense where Junior asked one question during entire meeting.
Don Jr. released his emails.
#feeble
Gloss over intent, gloss over the fact that he knew it was a russian government attorney (doesn't matter the person's name).
You have no idea if there was a second (or third) meeting or not.
Quote: MaxPenThe meeting was short and she was full of nonsense.
There was never a 2nd meeting. That's it, 20 minutes of nonsense where Junior asked one question during entire meeting.
Hannity: “Did you ever meet with any other person from Russia?”
Donnie Jr: “I don’t even know.” He quickly amended the statement, saying, “I’ve probably met with other people from Russia”
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-jr-appears-on-hannity/
Since Obama wiretapped trump tower, we should be able to know the content of the meeting exactly.
I've also taken some inspiration from your avatar, and updated mine as well 😜😜😜😜😜
Quote: ams288I said the worst thing that could happen right now for Dems would be for Donald to just resign and let Pence take over.
I disagree... I don't think he would be any worse than Trump; maybe even better. There would be a lot less showboating around a President Pence, because he's just a boring old politician, and people would really be able to focus on any kind of shifty policies he tries to pass. He would be nothing more than a placeholder president for a couple of years. He's not popular enough to win re-election in 2020, whereas Trump has a cult following.
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Remember when people went nuts over Obama bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia, and here's Trump not only bowing, but being given an award? Where are those people now, and why aren't they going nuts over this?
Quote: TigerWuI disagree... I don't think he would be any worse than Trump; maybe even better. There would be a lot less showboating around a President Pence, because he's just a boring old politician, and people would really be able to focus on any kind of shifty policies he tries to pass. He would be nothing more than a placeholder president for a couple of years. He's not popular enough to win re-election in 2020, whereas Trump has a cult following.
Quote: gamerfreak
Remember when people went nuts over Obama bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia, and here's Trump not only bowing, but being given an award? Where are those people now, and why aren't they going nuts over this?
Can any one ID the two blurry heads in the picture looking at the racist, sexist, rapist, scam artist, and con man Trump? Could they be Trump's two sons -- Soot Trump, and Poot Trump?
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Don Jr: "and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer."
Goldstone: "This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump."
Donald Trump Jr's meeting with a Russian lawyer while his father was running for election is the "proverbial smoking gun" needed to show he had committed a crime, a Harvard Law Professor has said.
Laurence Tribe said it suggested the President's eldest son "was part of [a] criminal conspiracy to violate [federal criminal] laws banning foreign aid to any US campaign."
Mr Trump revealed he had replied to an offer for incriminating material on Hillary Clinton from Russia by saying "I love it."
US federal law makes it a "crime to receive anything of value... in connection with" an election, LawNewz reports.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-jr-harvard-law-070600520.html
http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-rep-brad-sherman-just-introduced-1499883664-htmlstory.html
Quote: TigerWuI predict that this whole Trump Jr. email scandal will blow over by the end of the week in time for the next news cycle.
The righties who were calling this a "nothing burger" on Monday seem to have gone into hiding.
We now have concrete evidence that the Trump campaign knew the Russian government wanted to elect Donald in June 2016, and they welcomed it.
It's not going anywhere. Even if it falls off the front page for a bit, Mueller is still doing his job behind the scenes.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/charles-krauthammer-trump-jr_us_5965e3d5e4b005b0fdc9a8e0?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
summarized: “If you get a call to go to a certain place in the middle of the night to pick up stolen goods and it turns out the stolen goods don’t show up but the cops show up,” he added, “I think you’re going to have a very weak story saying, ‘Well, I got swindled here.’”
Quote: billryanEntrapment. He's a victim of a sting by Obama's rogue Justice Department. That will play to his base.
Only applies if the police entrap you. (obviously the case in my example, but not in Don Jr's case)
Why are you making fun of Hillary? I know she's a fat ugly lesbian but you don't have to point it out.Quote: ams288
Quote: AxelWolfWhy are you making fun of Hillary? I know she's a fat ugly lesbian but you don't have to point it out.
Ah, c'mon. You can be more clever than this...
Quote: ams288
You know damn well that Princess Leia was not a man in drag.
Well, I called that right. That piece of scum is so predictable. http://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-defends-son-s-meeting-with-russian-lawyer-995912259531Quote: OnceDear. . . The next line of defense: "We were offered some help by Russian government agencies and we were happy to accept that help, but so what? What was wrong with us doing that? What statute did we break?"
I just hope I'm wrong about his next deflection: The one where thousands die ( and I don't mean healthcare )
Ah! I almost missed this gem
Quote: BBCDuring the event in Paris, Mr Trump also blamed members of the Obama administration for allowing Ms Veselnitskaya to be admitted into the United States.
What a predictable projection!
Quote: billryanEntrapment. He's a victim of a sting by Obama's rogue Justice Department. That will play to his base.
So it's Obama's Attorney Generals fault.
That was so predictable. I heard Trumps friend Jim warned him about it.
Quote: billryanSo it's Obama's Attorney Generals fault.
That was so predictable. I heard Trumps friend Jim warned him about it.
Jim said Paris?! What do you mean Paris! I don't know anything about paris anymore!
lol... multiple statutes including treason.Quote: OnceDearWell, I called that right. That piece of scum is so predictable. http://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-defends-son-s-meeting-with-russian-lawyer-995912259531
I just hope I'm wrong about his next deflection: The one where thousands die ( and I don't mean healthcare )
Ah! I almost missed this gem
What a predictable projection!
Quote: ams288
. . . as so carefully policed and enforced by the GOP. They too are collectively as treasonous but no-one is holding them to account. I can only hope that Bob M has got a mountain of irrefutable evidence to bury the whole fricken lot of them. I'd be satisfied if just the trump clan get sent down and their assets seized as proceeds of crime. Not holding my breathe though.Quote: Romeslol... multiple statutes including treason.
Now what about this Wray fella?
Stinks of Russian influence, though he says the right words. Why is he or any trump nominee being given the time of day by your Senate? He looked shifty as hell and has provable ties with Russian influence, which he seems to have tried to conceal?
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/20/politics/kfile-fbi-nominee-law-firm-bio/index.html
FBI Director nominee removed reference to case involving Russian government from law firm bio
Quote: ams288The Wall Street Journal has a bombshell story tonight.
Last fall, Republican financier Peter Smith assembled a team of computer experts to contact hackers connected with the Russian government. Smith wanted to obtain any hacked emails of HRC that they potentially had. There is evidence he was doing this with the cooperation of/at the behest of Mike Flynn, who was working for the Trump campaign at the time.
Peter Smith was proud of this operation. He called the WSJ in May to give an interview about it.
He died 10 days later.
Peter W. Smith, GOP operative who sought Clinton's emails from Russian hackers, committed suicide, records show
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Case closed, I guess. lmao
Seems like a life insurance policy isn't gonna pay out if you specify that you are committing suicide in a note, right?
It lools very edge and turn sortable.Quote: rxwineI wish this was from a deck of playing cards. I'd buy em!
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