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June 13th, 2017 at 3:58:26 AM permalink
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I'm curious, would any of the righties here defend Donald if he tried to fire Robert Mueller?



Apparently and sadly so

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/06/12/big-name-trump-supporters-are-pushing-for-robert-mueller-to-be-f/22138503/
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June 13th, 2017 at 6:55:16 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Apparently and sadly so

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/06/12/big-name-trump-supporters-are-pushing-for-robert-mueller-to-be-f/22138503/



Yeah, that's why I asked the question. I wanted to know if any righties here would preemptively defend him firing Mueller, should Donald do it.

They always defend his indefensible actions after he does them. But rarely do they do so beforehand...
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June 13th, 2017 at 7:28:25 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

Yeah, that's why I asked the question. I wanted to know if any righties here would preemptively defend him firing Mueller, should Donald do it.

They always defend his indefensible actions after he does them. But rarely do they do so beforehand...


I would be shocked if Trump did not fire Mueller
If he does fire Mueller, fox and most of his conservative backers will applaud the move
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June 13th, 2017 at 9:53:42 AM permalink
Now that Trump has been completely vindicated, why should the investigation proceed? Fire the Special Council and let Jared oversee the hunt for disloyal underlings.
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June 13th, 2017 at 11:41:28 AM permalink
The only modern President whose Presidency didn't survive investigations was Nixon. Bill Clinton was impeached but not removed from office.

So fragile Trump needs help with Republican majority in Congress? Gimme a break.

All the worse cowards like to dish it out and not take it.
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June 13th, 2017 at 2:25:12 PM permalink
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Now that Trump has been completely vindicated, why should the investigation proceed? Fire the Special Council and let Jared oversee the hunt for disloyal underlings.



Because that is simply not the way any justice system works

For example on a murder trial if one person out of many gives vindicating testimony the trial doesnt suddenly end.

"Ok jurors we heard one person testify. No point for any further listening. Go home"

Wen it comes to testimony vinidicating or not an investigation or trial is completed and an official determination is made

Funny when Comey said Hillary did nothing illegal for emails repubs got really angry and that was the ending of an official investigation
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June 13th, 2017 at 2:36:13 PM permalink
At any rate and this must really anger trumpies but trump CANNOT fire mueller. Only rosenstein can.

Now imagine the uproar if trump fires rosenstein and then installs someone who fires mueller

Last time that occurred was Nixon and that didnt go too well for him
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June 13th, 2017 at 6:30:08 PM permalink
Sessions said he believes Marijuana is properly listed as schedule 1, right along with black tar heroine. An absolutely discusting and outright dangerous position.
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June 13th, 2017 at 8:20:12 PM permalink
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Sessions said he believes Marijuana is properly listed as schedule 1, right along with black tar heroine. An absolutely discusting and outright dangerous position.


Medical marijuana is a fraud. And I want TOUGHER penalties for using, selling, possession it.
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June 13th, 2017 at 8:22:17 PM permalink
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Medical marijuana is a fraud. And I want TOUGHER penalties for using, selling, possession it.



Yeah, lets throw a couple dozen cancer patients in jail. MAGA.
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June 13th, 2017 at 8:30:16 PM permalink
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Medical marijuana is a fraud. And I want TOUGHER penalties for using, selling, possession it.


Not withstanding any medical uses, Marijuana used recreationally is far less dangerous than alcohol. Prohibition does not work, it never has. Making it illegal is just a catalyst for crime, which results in billions of your tax dollars being spent on law enforcement and incarceration for what is truly victimless crime. Legalize, regulate, and tax it, and everyone is better off.
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June 13th, 2017 at 8:30:57 PM permalink
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Yeah, lets throw a couple dozen cancer patients in jail. MAGA.


It was probably all of the toxins in the marijuana that gave the person cancer in the first place.
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June 13th, 2017 at 8:43:50 PM permalink
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It was probably all of the toxins in the marijuana that have the person cancer in the first place.



Indubitably.
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June 14th, 2017 at 2:45:10 AM permalink
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It was probably all of the toxins in the marijuana that have the person cancer in the first place.



No that was all the second hand smoke from your local casino
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June 14th, 2017 at 6:22:22 AM permalink
We are turning into a Middle Eastern uncivilized country. Sad Days! Sad Days indeed!
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June 14th, 2017 at 7:42:01 AM permalink
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We are turning into a Middle Eastern uncivilized country. Sad Days! Sad Days indeed!



America is ruined, and SooPoo and Trumpers don't even realized it. It is a sad day for America indeed!

Let's all hope a speedy recovery for all those were shot in this tragedy, and Trump will not take advantage of this tragedy to divide America to further promote his ego & personal interest.
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June 14th, 2017 at 8:04:53 AM permalink
I think that anyone who believes that this Presidency will bring any sort of peace or prosperity may qualify for some of that medical marijuana, and they will surely need it. Their delusions certainly can't get any worse.
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June 14th, 2017 at 8:18:05 AM permalink
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I think that anyone who believes that this Presidency will bring any sort of peace or prosperity may qualify for some of that medical marijuana, and they will surely need it.


I think it's fair to say we disagree on this about as much as possible, but that comment made me laugh. One easy way for Trump to do even more winning (he's done lots of winning already!), and get 100% of the votes for 2020, is if the states allowed supporting Trump to be a qualifier for medical marijuana. You'd have hippies roaming the streets, organizing pro-Trump rallies, just to get medical marijuana. (But then there'd be massive protests because the weed wouldn't be free, so it could back fire.)
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June 14th, 2017 at 8:30:21 AM permalink
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I think it's fair to say we disagree on this about as much as possible, but that comment made me laugh. One easy way for Trump to do even more winning (he's done lots of winning already!), and get 100% of the votes for 2020, is if the states allowed supporting Trump to be a qualifier for medical marijuana. You'd have hippies roaming the streets, organizing pro-Trump rallies, just to get medical marijuana. (But then there'd be massive protests because the weed wouldn't be free, so it could back fire.)



RS, with all due respect, you completely missed the point. I would guess it is because of your bias. It's OK, but what I am trying to say is that this Presidency has no idea how to form bi-partisan decision making. None. Now I know you're going to bring up Obama and the past others, blah, blah, blah. That though is effectively closing your eyes to what is going on. Any politician in office needs to be voted out of office if they do not play nice. Any political party! These guys need to grow up!
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June 14th, 2017 at 9:13:32 AM permalink
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Medical marijuana is a fraud. And I want TOUGHER penalties for using, selling, possession it.


ROTFL
How about going all in and bring back prohibition
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June 14th, 2017 at 9:33:28 AM permalink
That shooter today was a Gullible in drag. That shooter would profile the same way as a Gullible. Both he and the Gullibles have a "My way is the right way no matter what anyone else thinks" type of extremist attitude.
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June 14th, 2017 at 9:38:10 AM permalink
Legalize, regulate, and tax marijuana nationwide.

Same for prostitution and casinos.

Our national debt would be gone within a generation.

Sure, we'd be a nation of degenerates, but at least we'd be debt free! :D
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June 14th, 2017 at 9:44:54 AM permalink
Quote: steeldco

That shooter today was a Gullible in drag. That shooter would profile the same way as a Gullible. Both he and the Gullibles have a "My way is the right way no matter what anyone else thinks" type of extremist attitude.



Apparently the shooter has died from his injuries.

But get this:

"I can only hope that the Democrats do tone down the rhetoric....The rhetoric has been outrageous: The finger-pointing, the tone, the angst and the anger directed at Donald Trump, his supporters, really then, some people react to things like that, people get angry as well, and you fuel the fires." Rep. Chris Collins

LOL

This kind of hateful, violent rhetoric has been going on since at least the Bush administration, from Democrats AND Republicans. Why are these Congressmen only NOW getting upset about it? Oh, right, because finally THEY are the victims, and not some random people in Bumpoke, Iowa.
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June 14th, 2017 at 9:58:21 AM permalink
This tweet hasn't aged well:

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June 14th, 2017 at 10:10:37 AM permalink
"I can only hope that the Democrats do tone down the rhetoric....The rhetoric has been outrageous: The finger-pointing, the tone, the angst and the anger directed at Donald Trump, his supporters, really then, some people react to things like that, people get angry as well, and you fuel the fires." Rep. Chris Collins


....and I can only hope that both parties, all parties, realize that what they F'ing think is not necessarily what is right. They need to grow up, negotiate, and work for EVERYONE's common good. There is absolutely NO room for extremism, whether it be religious or political.
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June 14th, 2017 at 10:43:25 AM permalink
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ROTFL
How about going all in and bring back prohibition


Sounds good to me
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June 14th, 2017 at 11:41:27 AM permalink
I thought about the shooter today and thought about the 2nd Amendment. Proponents of the 2nd amendment want to be able to keep arms to defend against government oversight, and there was plenty of talk about overtaking the Obama government should he declare himself president for a third term as the Muslim dictator that everyone feared him to be (but ended up being more Christian than the Donald). So, we have an attack on politicians by a white anti-trumper. How is this not a terrorist attack? Because he had white skin and was inspired but whatever mental demons haunted him?

My fear is that one-off attacks like these will bring about some kind of emergency declaration allowing the Executive branch unprecedented power. It is the Congress (yes-men), more importantly the Senate (who are not filibuster proof unless it's a budgetary motion), as well as local and state lawmakers that are checks for the Executive branch. Without these checks in place, I can see Martial law become a possibility, certainly more so with this government than with the previous version.

I don't think that will happen because all I really think Trump cares about is his own image, his business and his friends.
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June 14th, 2017 at 12:02:44 PM permalink
MSM and the Left have been cultivating hatred against Trump since the election. They want him dead. They condition total idiots with videos of children bashing Trump pinto's, Kathy Grifin's photo with Trump's severed head, and the assassination scene from the Julius Caesar play in NYC. All suggest killing Trump.

A Congressman was shot today, but their ultimate goal is still Trump.

They did this two years ago with the 'Hands up, Don't shoot', false narrative, that ended with the murders of police officers by people who believed the MSM lies.

As low as you can get. Brainwashing innocent children.



This got a standing ovation from a very sick audience.



CNN News Sluts creating cop killers with false news.
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June 14th, 2017 at 12:57:29 PM permalink
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MSM and the Left have been cultivating hatred against Trump since the election.



Nah. Donald's actions have been doing that. MSM and the Left just report the news.
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June 14th, 2017 at 1:02:40 PM permalink
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...CNN News Sluts...


It doesn't matter which channel, they all are. I haven't seen a fat, ugly news chick.
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June 14th, 2017 at 1:05:17 PM permalink
Quote: Tanko

MSM and the Left have been cultivating hatred against Trump since the election.



As a side note, I've always thought it was odd that when people refer to the "mainstream media," they almost always exclude Fox News and talk radio, which doesn't make sense because Fox News is usually the highest rated and most watched cable news channel, and talk radio is almost all Conservative with practically no Liberal counterpart.

Fox News and talk radio is about as "mainstream" as it gets!
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June 14th, 2017 at 1:14:17 PM permalink
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Fox News is usually the highest rated and most watched cable news channel,



That was then. This is now.

Fox's ratings have taken a huge hit since their culture of sexual harassment was revealed and they were forced to fire Ailes (Rot In Hell) and BillO.
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June 14th, 2017 at 1:23:24 PM permalink
CNN had what looked like someone's grandmother working the field about an hour ago. I was taken aback.
Looked like the old Russian spy on The Americans.
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June 14th, 2017 at 1:34:15 PM permalink
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America is ruined, and SooPoo and Trumpers don't even realized it. It is a sad day for America indeed!

Let's all hope a speedy recovery for all those were shot in this tragedy, and Trump will not take advantage of this tragedy to divide America to further promote his ego & personal interest.



I trust you're intelligent enough to realize you act exactly as those you decry. Specifically, lumping of folks you disagree with into one group of "bad", as you've repeatedly been doing to SOOPOO (or will be doing to me, now that it is I who have addressed you). If you are indeed a sincere fella, I'd suggest some reflection to figure out what your core beef is, and how to target it without alienating the majority of good folk who haven't a thing to do with it.

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I thought about the shooter today and thought about the 2nd Amendment. Proponents of the 2nd amendment want to be able to keep arms to defend against government oversight, and there was plenty of talk about overtaking the Obama government should he declare himself president for a third term as the Muslim dictator that everyone feared him to be (but ended up being more Christian than the Donald). So, we have an attack on politicians by a white anti-trumper. How is this not a terrorist attack? Because he had white skin and was inspired but whatever mental demons haunted him?

My fear is that one-off attacks like these will bring about some kind of emergency declaration allowing the Executive branch unprecedented power. It is the Congress (yes-men), more importantly the Senate (who are not filibuster proof unless it's a budgetary motion), as well as local and state lawmakers that are checks for the Executive branch. Without these checks in place, I can see Martial law become a possibility, certainly more so with this government than with the previous version.

I don't think that will happen because all I really think Trump cares about is his own image, his business and his friends.



Gosh, I've missed your participation.

I think everyone needs to step away from the goddamn TV for an ever and snap the f#$% out of it. You know me, mimbo. I assume you might judge me as an "extremist" when it comes to the 2A, and not only wouldn't I argue, I'd hold the title with pride. Lord knows I've written enough about it, fought control at every turn, and am on probably Day 2,564 of my consecutive felonious days of weapons infractions. But I wasn't one of the dips#$%s you deride. I was never a "not 'merican" guy, or a Sharia law guy, or any other ridiculous notion about Obama guy.

I mention this because, too often, folks see some dips#$% on TV and that dips#$% becomes the spokesperson for an entire group. If you need an example, just pop into any one of these politicrap threads. Today, you'll see an AZD, who is staunchly Right partisan, being grouped in with an EB, and a RonC, and a SOOPOO, and a Face, when we lot could burn years arguing just with each other over all the differences we have. I know I've been referred to as a Trumpist, a Trumpster, a Trumpkin, and I can't f#$%ing stand the man. But, because I partake in activities deemed "Right-ist", I automatically get tagged as a gun totin' (true), coal lovin' (false), pussy grabbin (false), immigrant hatin (false), anti-Islam (false), anti-Mexican (false), homophobic (false), good ol boy (true), when that's not at all who or what I am.

This s#$% is so plain to see I can only assume y'all are suffering media toxicity. Or, maybe it's just that sort of personal blindness that one suffers when one can't get the thing they're focused on. I dunno, still working on this theory, but s#$% is f#$%ed.

On your comment specifically, I dig your thinking but have to laugh just the same. It's not a bad reminder to, hey, knock this s#$% off. But it's, IMO, in the same vein of thinking as the Sharia and Martial-to-have-a-third-go-around nonsense. Martial could happen, sure. But not for random, infrequent violations. If memory serves (it almost certainly doesn't) US imposed martial law is incredibly infrequent, and almost always as the result of an ongoing disaster, either literal in a Katrina type instance (not saying Katrina was martial, it wasn't), or, more frequently, a scrum that just won't break of it's own accord (Coal Wars, 60's race riots).

A word of my own - I dunno when this happened, I just happened to hear it on NPR on the way home. I heard someone, I think it was Speaker Ryan, address Congress and the nation. I began with my standard clenching and ready to scream at my windshield as the "tougher gun law" bulls#$% began to flow, but that's not what he said. He said something to the effect that, right now, they are all One. Not Dem or Rep, male or female, young or old, but that were all on the same team and needed to come together to stem the hate flowing from both sides.

THAT was pretty goddamn refreshing. Though, at the same time, it's quite a f#$%ing travesty that we can only think like this when Death comes a knockin'.
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June 14th, 2017 at 2:17:23 PM permalink
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June 14th, 2017 at 2:17:23 PM permalink
Yes, it's MSM's fault for us not liking Trump and the violence today. Trump's a great guy. Everything he says and does makes perfect sense. At least we're not blaming "the gun".

Wow. Who's fault was it when Giffords was shot then? Do we blame FoxNews and the alt-right media for that shooting for his anti-government and tea-party bent. Or how about the Oklahoma bombers?

Or can we take some g-d personal responsibility for our actions and perhaps take guns out of the hands of those who are mentally incompetent which Giffords' shooter was and likely the same with this whackjob.

We are now well past the point where we can get our news from any source, real or fake, and we choose what and who we believe. To go out and classify MSM, NYT and WaPo as the problems are ridiculous when 62 million people voted for the Orange Nacho. Those real voters (not the fake ones, you know the 3-5 million bogus votes that gave Trump the popular vote, according to him) obviously chose to believe something else and are able to discern whatever version of reality they want to believe.
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June 14th, 2017 at 2:21:19 PM permalink
Here's something else I think is kind of funny/sad:

With those two shootings today, I've already seen a load of comments about "hateful, violent, intolerant liberals" etc., etc., and yet it's a lot of those same people who accuse liberals of being "gun-hating, weakling snowflakes that are gonna get their asses handed to them if there's another Civil War!"

So which is it?? Are liberals a bunch of murderous gun-toting thugs or spineless jellyfish who hate the 2nd Amendment?? I guess whatever is in the news cycle that day...

Oh, and I've had people tell me that liberals defend radical Islam and Muslim terrorists.

????

Liberalism is ideologically the polar opposite of extreme right-wing Islam.

Some people are so silly. I'm sure there's equally dumb stuff said about Conservatives.
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June 14th, 2017 at 2:38:20 PM permalink
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Gosh, I've missed your participation.



Thanks. Not sure how long I am going to last though...

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I think everyone needs to step away from the goddamn TV for an ever and snap the f#$% out of it.



There are reasons I don't watch TV news all day. Because it's about the numbers more than anything, and that goes for pretty much any for-profit media, including WaPo and FoxNews. For important stories, you have to blend sources to get to the truth and that comes from both sides and use common sense. When some dipshit with no education makes a baseless claim that always somehow includes a baseless opinion, you should probably ignore it, even if you agree with it. When someone who has gone to journalism school and has made a career out of reporting the truth and has made some important headway in reporting and reports without opinion, then you have something there. But even the best journalists (Rather, Jennings) make some pretty horrific mistakes. You have to use discernment with any source. For example, I trust implicitly the Wizard's math. But do I trust his restaurant recommendations?

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This s#$% is so plain to see I can only assume y'all are suffering media toxicity. Or, maybe it's just that sort of personal blindness that one suffers when one can't get the thing they're focused on. I dunno, still working on this theory, but s#$% is f#$%ed.



We are all susceptible to blindness because 95% of people lack the ability to analyze the sources and we want to believe what we want to believe. That's why as much as I enjoy Colbert, for example, I know that half of the comedy coming out of him is complete bull and it's just so he can keep on top of Fallon. I can't watch CNN/Fox because it has devolved to multiple talking heads all screaming their viewpoints which raises anxiety because nobody can agree or admit that they could be incorrect.

I do have a political bent, and that's obvious. But I respect people's reasonable views coming from the right. I know plenty of people who voted for Trump, and I shake my head at them, and at the same time, I almost understand their reasoning.

As for Ryan's message, there was a certain president who said the same thing for 8 years, after Sandy Hook, after Orlando and at other times of national tragedy. The response: crickets from the right, and a certain presidential figure who kept on claiming that Obama's presidency was illegitimate because he was not born in Hawaii. The only reason Ryan came out and said it was because there is a president who is under siege who doesn't have the class to say it himself.
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June 14th, 2017 at 3:48:33 PM permalink
Our President is officially under criminal investigation

Special counsel is investigating Trump for possible obstruction of justice, officials say

Happy Birthday, Donald!!!
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June 14th, 2017 at 3:49:47 PM permalink
Still feeling vindicated?

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June 14th, 2017 at 6:48:06 PM permalink
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MSM and the Left have been cultivating hatred against Trump since the election.



Suddenly the rightwing believes in hate speech and that it has an effect.

Cue tiny violin.
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June 14th, 2017 at 6:51:18 PM permalink
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Our President is officially under criminal investigation

Special counsel is investigating Trump for possible obstruction of justice, officials say

Happy Birthday, Donald!!!




But he's been completely vindicated. Just ask him. Mueller would get better results hunting snipes.
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June 17th, 2017 at 7:29:43 AM permalink
So after all of the pledges made by the politicians to work together, I see where Mitch McConnell is not sharing the draft of the healthcare plan that is in the Senate. Really? This McConnell clown definitely needs to get voted out of office. Vote out the A-holes. If they can't work together for the common good then they shouldn't work. PERIOD.
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June 20th, 2017 at 10:25:14 AM permalink
Just listening to a speech being made by Paul Ryan to the National Association of Manufacturers. He made a big deal of pointing out that there were a million jobs added to the manufacturing sector since the beginning of the decade and seemed to want to claim credit for it. Well, he's kind of right.

Dec., 2009 manufacturing jobs totaled 11,529,000 while the most current jobs report shows it to now be 12,398,000. So he was close. It grew by 869,000. Not quite the million but close.

However, total non-farm payrolls were 129,547,000 in Dec., 2009 and they are now 146,135,000. An increase, since the same beginning of the decade time frame, of 16,588,000 jobs or 12.80%. The percentage increase in manufacturing jobs, based on the same Ryan's time frame? 7.54%. These frickin' politicians who lie to us do not deserve to be in office. Vote them out.
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June 20th, 2017 at 10:53:10 AM permalink
Quote: steeldco

However, total non-farm payrolls were 129,547,000 in Dec., 2009 and they are now 146,135,000. An increase, since the same beginning of the decade time frame, of 16,588,000 jobs or 12.80%. The percentage increase in manufacturing jobs, based on the same Ryan's time frame? 7.54%. These frickin' politicians who lie to us do not deserve to be in office. Vote them out.


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June 20th, 2017 at 9:32:09 PM permalink
How bad is CNN at this point? Watching them trying to defend the loss tonight is sad, perhaps worse than sad. So Trump won by less than 2% in this district and the Dems put this as a referendum on him. And Karen won by 5%. The Huff post had Jon up by 3-5% this morning with the one poll showing Handel up as "conservative " poll with no credibility.

Now the story is this was a district where Trump has a 50% approval rating. Jon was a bad candidate who didn't even live in the district, waiting for the story where he molested kids.

Face it, the further you move from the middle of working class Americans on both sides, the better it is for Trump. Defending those who have found a way to become victims instead of working to build the American dream will never be a winning strategy.

The majority of Americans want to be sovereign with the government to get the F out of their way.
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June 20th, 2017 at 9:44:31 PM permalink
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The majority of Americans want to be sovereign with the government to get the F out of their way.



I wish this was the case but fear that it is not. So many people in large cities seem to want more government. Maybe the majority of Americans do want smaller government, but don't bother voting, and that's why Trump lost the popular vote.
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June 22nd, 2017 at 8:39:33 AM permalink
Did I just hear right that the Senate healthcare bill was crafted by McConnell's aides and LOBBYISTS?
If that's correct, then it sounds like McConnell is filling up the swamp. The Trump Gullibles sure do just accept a lot of crap..........
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June 22nd, 2017 at 9:02:02 AM permalink
Quote: steeldco

Did I just hear right that the Senate healthcare bill was crafted by McConnell's aides and LOBBYISTS?
If that's correct, then it sounds like McConnell is filling up the swamp. The Trump Gullibles sure do just accept a lot of crap..........



And for a successful hard working individual such as yourself, is there ANYTHING they could do to make it worse than Obamacare? Of course not, assuming you don't believe in free HC for all. If so, then there yea it's probably worse.
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June 22nd, 2017 at 9:06:34 AM permalink
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And for a successful hard working individual such as yourself, is there ANYTHING they could do to make it worse than Obamacare? Of course not, assuming you don't believe in free HC for all. If so, then there yea it's probably worse.



With all due respect, are you familiar with the term "hypocrisy"? That absolutely applies to these clowns in office.
Yes. They can easily produce a plan that is much worse than Obamacare. The House already has proven that.
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