Trump's First 100 Days
Not your country as a whole, not your average American, but far, far too many Americans.Quote: RonCI find it offensive when anyone considers the people of our country, as a whole, dumb or deplorable or whatever. That elitist bullshit attitude is part of the problem.
The Americans have been and are being mis-led. Agreed, Clinton and many other candidates were also likely to mislead them too.
But judging on my own impartial, non-elitist standpoint, I'm also offended. Offended by a nation which lacks the ability or judgement to find a few decent candidates and then choose one decent candidate from those to represent them.
When I see Trump supporters say 'At least he is doing what he said he would' I can accept that.
But when those supporters can close their eyes so tight that they cannot acknowledge blatant lies, corruption and dangerous carelessness, then I too am grossly offended. You guys made him King of the World.
Your system is a bit dumb to allow this to happen.
Your education system must have some major failings to allow such blindness.
And yes. There must be a lot of dumb fools among Trump's supporters. Not the average American, but an awful lot of them.
Quote: RonCI disagree. Of course I see the potential for a disaster with the current President but I am also familiar enough to understand the "Swamp" is not easy to drain, so he will likely be unsuccessful on the most controversial fronts. I think a lot of Hillary supporters, lefties, and others are way too worried and a lot of righties are way too overjoyed about what likely will be controversial Presidency but will not lead to the end of the world.
Name a cabinet appointment who isn't (a) Goldman Sachs (b) billionaire or (c) politically connected. Drain the swamp, my ass.
Quote:The biggest impact of a Trump Presidency may be on the Supreme Court. Recent Presidents have mostly gotten a couple of picks each, even with eight year terms. Trump's first pick is a Conservative/Originalist to replace a Conservative/Originalist. Where the difference might come in is if Ginsberg or another liberal leaves and he gets a second appointment. That could swing the court. he could also be a one term President and leave with only one pick and with several older Justices still on the Court.
You say that like it's news. Been a major consideration/concern for many people for years,. Beyond the joke the Republicans made of the process over Garland.
Quote:Americans aren't "dumb"--Trump, who won narrowly, ran on "change" (didn't Obama run on "change", too?) and the people really do want change. Whether they ever get it or not is a whole different story...but make no mistake, most want the country to be a better place. I find it offensive when anyone considers the people of our country, as a whole, dumb or deplorable or whatever. That elitist bullshit attitude is part of the problem.
The first step to fixing a problem is to acknowledge you have one. We are, in fact, dumb. We listened to contradictory statements and know half must be lies, but disregarded them. We put a man with no government experience in office. And gave a man with the thinnest skin ever and an admitted con man the nuclear codes. Dumb, dumb, dumb. We'll be lucky to get past him without big glass craters smoking everywhere.
Quote: mcallister3200Quote: ams288Donald's Muslim Ban got shot down again in the Court of Appeals. Donald responded by tweet (of course):
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Hey Orangeman:
The most recent report about the wall I've heard estimates it to cost 21 billion. First mexico was going to pay for it, then americans were going to pay 12 billion, then 15, now 21. Below is basically the effectiveness of the Tramp regimes first month, from the Yemen fiasco, to the travel ban that's been curb stomped, to the wall cost. Hopefully Sessions/Trumps plans for civil forfeiture go just as smoothly. He needs to drop Conway. Every time she opens her mouth she makes the party look worse.
Tramp regime effectiveness so far
McAllister et al - WRT "The Wall":
WRT "The Wall", has anyone seen any threads or articles about using drones to protect the borders of California, Arizona, and New Mexico? I don't think this is a literal Mexico will pay $xxx cash deal - it will probably be a trade-off capturing various IOUs, trade concessions favoring the US, etc.
The actual border length is 1,993 miles. Unfortunately, I've read that drone use and effectivity is not 100% welcomed nor approved. The Predator (pictured below) costs about $40 million (there are other drones costing half as much). But it is appealing to imagine 20 drones (ok, even 40 drones) operated by a dozen or so operators, vs building the $7 billion estimated cost of a 650-mile fence or the $21 billion in this reply. 20 Predators would cost $800 million, but you'd need to factor in operating costs. Another appealing aspect is that the selected drones could be put into action relatively quickly -- a couple of weeks vs the months it would take to build "The Wall"?
Maybe someone with more patience and a more analytical mind can estimate these operating costs for a "droned" wall . . .
Quote: steeldcoThe 2 parties here need some sensible competition. I don't know who, or how, but I do know that I am getting awfully tired of needing to choose between Clown A and Clown B.
Very intelligent, responsible and capable people don't want to run for President or be involved in politics anymore. It's a cesspool. A dirty, dirty game.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/11/us/politics/donald-trump-shinzo-abe-golf-mar-a-lago.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=b-lede-package-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
Quote: gamerfreakI don't think anyone called you igornent or a moron, just Mr. Trump.
Oh Really??
Quote: Romeslol annnnnd that's who the morons and ignorant alike elected...
Seems like Romes called people who put Trump in office ... MORONS!?
Quote: RomesOf everyone I've met, know, asked, and discussed with... Not one person has voted for trump while not being either a moron, or ignorant to most things about him (from personal to political). I'm not calling any specific person specifically anything (good try), but it is rather obvious (not alternatively factual) that people who support trump are either morons, ignorant, or both.
Anyone who thinks a) we won't pay for the wall, and b) that it will actually work are literal examples of morons.
If you support Trump, you are either a complete moron, ignorant, or both, or worse.
Here he is again calling someone MORONS and IGNORANT... but stating that he isn't calling out one specific person... he is just lumping them all together specifically calling out Trump voters or supporters. So lets not support our President in office?! Lets just storm the castle and save the princess and start a new Republic or whatever Government you guys think is best!?
Sure does seem like Romes is calling anyone who voted or supports our President a Moron or Ignorant or Both!?
Romes is pretty funny with this statement though...
"I'm not calling anyone a moron or anything specific but it is rather obvious (not alternatively factual) that people who support trump are either morons, ignorant, or both!"
So basically he is saying that he isn't calling anyone a moron but if you support Trump.... Your a Moron! If your not a Moron your just Ignorant but it is most likely possible that your BOTH!!
As I have already said I did not vote. I never vote. The real morons or ignorant people are the ones who vote and think that voting matters. They think the voting system or the system in general is fair. It isn't! It's all rigged and if you don't know or believe that I would say your the Ignorant person or Moron as Romes likes to call Trump supporters.
I could care less who is President or any other official in office because I know that they are just puppets... a show for the people. The real people with power are the ones behind the scenes pulling the strings. However... most of you Morons need a soap opera to keep you pacified and this is just one of the many that will do,
Quote: beachbumbabsName a cabinet appointment who isn't (a) Goldman Sachs (b) billionaire or (c) politically connected. Drain the swamp, my ass.
I don't like everyone in the cabinet. I am not going to defend it choice by choice. I do think you've set a bar so high that it would be hard for ANY President by adding (c) to this list. How many cabinet appointments of Presidents past have had absolutely no political connection? Perhaps you'll think of some but, if you look deep enough, there is likely at least a small political connection in most cases. Billionaires? I don't find (b) to be a huge problem--most millionaires and billionaires have been successful in business. Why not hire successful people instead of career political folks? I do not like the ties mentioned in (a).
Quote: beachbumbabsYou say that like it's news. Been a major consideration/concern for many people for years,. Beyond the joke the Republicans made of the process over Garland.
I guess that is some kind of insult; it is a discussion and I was disagreeing with the belief you seem to hold that Trump is going to destroy the country. Heck, I think he has helped already on both sides of the aisle. You are fired up and perhaps those millions of women who protested for various reasons (of course, you can't protest for women if you don't believe in abortion...kind of weird...you can disagree on some things as a woman; just not that one) with you will stay politically active and fight for their causes. On the other side, he has rattled the Republicans and perhaps they can figure out where they really want to be and actually articulate a message coherently. It is okay if they all don't want to be the same thing...
Garland was never going to be confirmed. I think everyone knew that.
Quote: beachbumbabsThe first step to fixing a problem is to acknowledge you have one. We are, in fact, dumb. We listened to contradictory statements and know half must be lies, but disregarded them. We put a man with no government experience in office. And gave a man with the thinnest skin ever and an admitted con man the nuclear codes. Dumb, dumb, dumb. We'll be lucky to get past him without big glass craters smoking everywhere.
We listened to a candidate call a huge part of our population "deplorables" and who basically ran as a "more of the same" candidate that many supported not for her greatness but because she was just generally not as bad as Trump. It is a problem that someone who is part of the problem honestly thought she could get away with calling people who voted Democrat for a long time and seemed just fine to her then "deplorable" when they swung their support to another candidate.
I'm sorry you feel everyone is dumb. I know a lot of smart, educated, wealthy people who voted for Trump. A diverse group of people. Some people that I thought would vote for Hillary. They are not dumb and are not deserving of the nasty label you put on them.
I'm suggesting that terapined, stinkingliberal, ams, et al, donate the 10% run up in their portfolios to the DNC........
Quote: SOOPOOThe market (as measured by 'the Dow") is up 10.4 % since DJT won the election. Maybe Paco can find if that is the best 2 month run up in any new President's first term from election day? (I'm lazy).
I'm suggesting that terapined, stinkingliberal, ams, et al, donate the 10% run up in their portfolios to the DNC........
At this very moment some liberal rag is writing a story on how this is benefiting the rich so much more than the average American.
10% is 10% as long as you have $1 in a mutual fund. It bothers them so much that the "rich are getting richer" that even this gain that helps everyone with a 401k, IRA, etc is a problem for them.
The envy of the left against successful people is scary.
Uh, that's a big "10-4!"
Time for the protesters to start chanting: "Heave Ho, He's Got To Go!"
It's just like the table games and slot machines. You have to know when to get out. That means that you have realistic and flexible targets and that you can't grow overly greedy.Quote: steeldcoThe market being up 10.4% over a couple of months is meaningless if the market drops 15%, or more, in the near future. Otherwise the only people who may have benefited are nimble intelligent traders, of which there are very few. Wall Street (the house) will win.
The OP was just trying to get away with a broad insult without incurring even a tiny slap on the hands.Quote: monet0412Seems like Romes called people who put Trump in office ... MORONS!?
Here he is again calling someone MORONS and IGNORANT... but stating that he isn't calling out one specific person... he is just lumping them all together specifically calling out Trump voters or supporters. So lets not support our President in office?! Lets just storm the castle and save the princess and start a new Republic or whatever Government you guys think is best!?
Sure does seem like Romes is calling anyone who voted or supports our President a Moron or Ignorant or Both!?
Quote: MrVAl Franken says that he and a few other GOP colleagues of his in the Senate question Trump's mental health.
Uh, that's a big "10-4!"
Time for the protesters to start chanting: "Heave Ho, He's Got To Go!"
To be honest, I try to envisage a scenario where he becomes ex-president. And it's not easy to see such a scenario that works any time soon.
Resignation: Hmmm. He's having too much fun. Pence would slide in, but what would become of the rest of the team? Not a great prospect.
Death: Not wishing it on the guy, but still the same as above. Trump slides in, same fascist corrupt team just with modified delivery.
Democrats drive him under some sort of control: I don't see the Dems as organised or powerful.
The more decent Republicans undermine him and reign him in: Turkeys won't vote for Thanksgiving.
He and his team gets caught out and totally banged to rights for some heinous crime: That's possibly why they are steadily neutering the press, judiciary and agencies.
The P155ing video gets out: Hmmmm that would at least be funny.
Impeachment: I just can't see that 2/3 majority in sight.
Dems taking power in mid term elections: The numbers don't nearly stack up.
War - Major War: That would entrench him even more and might be the most popular outcome for him and his chronies. Lovely juicy unchallenged executive powers.
There have to be lots of mental health conditions in play. Real, clinically provable conditions. Sadly he and his cronies would just start mimicking the 'trick cyclist brigade'. Watch out for that. Sure to start soon enough.
Can someone please suggest a hope for the future? Please.
Quote: SOOPOOI'm suggesting that terapined, stinkingliberal, ams, et al, donate the 10% run up in their portfolios to the DNC........
How much would you have to donate after 8 great years of Obama?
Quote: OnceDearCan someone please suggest a hope for the future? Please.
How about "global thermo-nuclear war?"
Not much of a hope, but increasingly likely.
I see no satisfactory end game for the human race, UNLESS we colonize space, and even then our flaws my cause us to go extinct.
Pro-tip: Those who have been lying to you will continue to lie to you.
Quote: steeldcoThe market being up 10.4% over a couple of months is meaningless if the market drops 15%, or more, in the near future. Otherwise the only people who may have benefited are nimble intelligent traders, of which there are very few. Wall Street (the house) will win.
You have proven over and over your knowledge of stocks and the markets. And anyone listening to you has made money off of your advice. But I see the market as a longterm lifetime game. The winners I see are those who put money in month after month, in an up or down market and don't panic. Look at the amount of people who cashed out near the bottom in 07 and missed all the gains.
You say Wall Street always wins and I agree but those who have historically invested steadily, also have won. Nothing wrong with a win/win.
Quote: MrVHow about "global thermo-nuclear war?"
Not much of a hope, but increasingly likely..
I didn't want to suggest that increasingly likely scenario.
Fortunately In the greatest scheme of things, Trump, America, Humanity, Earth, Our solar system are all quite, QUITE insignificant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJXQZALNFrc
Quote: Boz
You say Wall Street always wins and I agree but those who have historically invested steadily, also have won. Nothing wrong with a win/win.
Bingo. I will SLOWLY be rebalancing to more bonds and less stocks. Trump clearly adds volatility, whether he adds value is still to be determined. I think the stock market is kind of like a poker room if you are a poker pro. You have to pay a vig to the house, but can still reliably make money over time. As far as my political donations, the only national candidate I have ever donated to is an anesthesiologist who is a Congressman from Maryland. I do make donations to state candidates who I actually know. My level has increased under the Obama administration, but it has nothing to do with him.....
"Just leaving Florida. Big crowds of enthusiastic supporters lining the road that the FAKE NEWS media refuses to mention. Very dishonest!"
What a clown.
If somebody kneels towards Trump, he wants it on live TV with commentary saying how beloved Trump is
boy
talk about delusional.
What a chump. Trump the chump
Quote: terapinedTrump's tweet from last night
"Just leaving Florida. Big crowds of enthusiastic supporters lining the road that the FAKE NEWS media refuses to mention. Very dishonest!"
What a clown.
If somebody kneels towards Trump, he wants it on live TV with commentary saying how beloved Trump is
boy
talk about delusional.
What a chump. Trump the chump
Not to mention the fact that by most accounts they were protestors, not "enthusiastic supporters."
Quote: terapinedTrump's tweet from last night
"Just leaving Florida. Big crowds of enthusiastic supporters lining the road that the FAKE NEWS media refuses to mention. Very dishonest!"
What a clown.
If somebody kneels towards Trump, he wants it on live TV with commentary saying how beloved Trump is
boy
talk about delusional.
What a chump. Trump the chump
I love all his "fake news" claims. Yet Spicer and Conway have been busted lying how many times now??
Quote: IbeatyouracesI love all his "fake news" claims. Yet Spicer and Conway have been busted lying how many times now??
Stephen Miller: "The powers of the Presidents are very substantial and WILL NOT be questioned."
Don't question the absolute power of Herr Trump. Zeig heil mein führer
Trump: "Congratulations Stephen Miller - on representing me this morning on the various Sunday morning shows. Great job!"
Are we taking bets on when Trump will promote Mike Flynn?
Quote: terapinedTrump's tweet from last night
"Just leaving Florida. Big crowds of enthusiastic supporters lining the road that the FAKE NEWS media refuses to mention. Very dishonest!"
What a clown.
If somebody kneels towards Trump, he wants it on live TV with commentary saying how beloved Trump is
boy
talk about delusional.
What a chump. Trump the chump
Quote: IbeatyouracesI love all his "fake news" claims. Yet Spicer and Conway have been busted lying how many times now??
What's next?
King Trump demands that everybody bow and the press report it
Why doesn't Trump just be honest and say he needs a propaganda minister
Quote: terapinedWhy doesn't Trump just be honest and say he needs a propaganda minister
He already has one. Stephen Miller
http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/joe-takes-stephen-miller-to-school-on-law-875977283878
Stephen Miller (born 1985/1986) is a Senior Advisor to President Donald Trump. Prior to his current appointment, he was the communications director for then-Alabama senator, Attorney General Jeff Sessions, ( Of Civil Forfeiture fame and accusations of racism fame )
http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/-what-stephen-miller-said-should-worry-everyone-875968067895
Snuff Said.
Quote: mcallister3200Making America Alabama again.
LOL...... I understand that Jefferson Davis has been posthumously nominated to Trump's cabinet.
Schumer's response? "He's as brain dead as the rest of them."
Trump thought it acceptable to use the flashlights of his associates' mobile phones to illuminate the (presumably) classified documents that were used while he held a strategy meeting in a packed dining room.
What kind of moron would allow that. Has he no concept of security?
Here Don, let me just hold my video camera, audio recorder and globally connected transmitter over those documents while we discuss them.
Talk about a freakin' schoolboy error.
Was that so Flynn could watch later on catch-up. ( over dinner with Pootie? )
https://img.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2017/02/Screen-Shot-2017-02-13-at-9.39.50-AM.png
It;ll be a war.
You read it here first.
No doubt he'll try an obscure little skirmish first, but that will not be contained.
Quote: OnceDearSo,
Trump thought it acceptable to use the flashlights of his associates' mobile phones to illuminate the (presumably) classified documents that were used while he held a strategy meeting in a packed dining room.
What kind of moron would allow that. Has he no concept of security?
Here Don, let me just hold my video camera, audio recorder and globally connected transmitter over those documents while we discuss them.
Talk about a freakin' schoolboy error.
Was that so Flynn could watch later on catch-up. ( over dinner with Pootie? )
https://img.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2017/02/Screen-Shot-2017-02-13-at-9.39.50-AM.png
I tried out a post like this. The response from the rabid trump supporters? Crickets.
This is some next level Oompa Loompa cosplay....!
Quote: OnceDearSo,
Trump thought it acceptable to use the flashlights of his associates' mobile phones to illuminate the (presumably) classified documents that were used while he held a strategy meeting in a packed dining room.
What kind of moron would allow that. Has he no concept of security?
Here Don, let me just hold my video camera, audio recorder and globally connected transmitter over those documents while we discuss them.
Talk about a freakin' schoolboy error.
Was that so Flynn could watch later on catch-up. ( over dinner with Pootie? )
https://img.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2017/02/Screen-Shot-2017-02-13-at-9.39.50-AM.png
Seems like Mr. Chaffetz could keep himself busy at the taxpayers expense for another 5 years or so with inquiries. Since this seems to be worse than anything Hillary ever did.
Quote: rsactuarySeems like Mr. Chaffetz could keep himself busy at the taxpayers expense for another 5 years or so with inquiries. Since this seems to be worst than anything Hillary ever did.
If Hillary had some of these issues with her national security team and been praising Putin on top of it in these first couple weeks Republicans would be overwhelmed by all the crosses they need to erect to crucify her properly. Of course if she had her family shilling Clinton properties and products as well that would just be the icing on the cake.
Quote: OnceDearTrump needs a distraction. A big one.
It;ll be a war.
You read it here first.
No doubt he'll try an obscure little skirmish first, but that will not be contained.
He'll trump those pesky Sioux in North Dakota; if they fight back he'll nuke 'em.
They are a sovereign nation, and we've nuked sovereign nations before.
"Make America Glow With Atomic Fire Again."
Quote: OnceDearSo,
Trump thought it acceptable to use the flashlights of his associates' mobile phones to illuminate the (presumably) classified documents
Was that so Flynn could watch later on catch-up. ( over dinner with Pootie? )
Upon further research, one of the main holders of phones to be illuminating those documents was none other that ex-security advisor Michael Flynn.
That's right: A Security Advisor holding a video camera/recorder/transmitter over secret documents when he knew his job was on a knife-edge.
He should have been advising Trump to leave the dining room.
He should have been advising Trump to be discreet.
He should have long advised Trump to stop using an insecure Android phone.
He should not have been a regular contributor to RT and a Dinner Buddy with Putin, but what the heck.
For all we know he could have been recruited by the FSB to ensure that security was as careless as it possibly could be. In which case he did 'a great job'.
OK. Maybe he didn't do what I would have surely done, but the very concept that he could be qualified to 'advise' on security when that's the kind of dumb-ass stunt that he pulled.?
Well it's just criminally insane.
http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/HTimages_g-k/I099_103_Flint.jpg
Quote:General Flynn, a great ally of Russia, gives an interview to RT
One of Putin's pet projects is the glitzy world television channel, RT (Russia Today), which claims to reach an audience of 700 million, including American viewers. A gala was recently held in Moscow to celebrate RT's 10th anniversary. One of the honored guests at the main table and a speaker at the event was former Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) director Lt. General Michael Flynn.
So has Trumps twitter account!!!Quote: ams288Curious that the Trump supporters seem to have gone quiet over the past couple of days....
I thought National security was something supposedly important to Trumpy.
No tweet denouncing the enemy media that have hounded a great man out of office.
No praise for VP Pence for the great job he did in spotting Flynn's slight misjudgement, (with regrets that it has all been blown out of proportion.)
No Tweet to wish Flynn well in his new role as National Security Consultant to the Kremlin. You do know he owns a consultancy firm?
Where's Tillerson hiding? In his holiday timeshare in Russia?
Extreme vetting: Let's have it for WhiteHouse advisors.
Any Vetting at all would be good.
Oh Boy!.
Maybe Flynn will now go on the offensive and start revealing some alternative alternative facts.
Can't wait for the next Saturday Night Live.
Is there hope that just a tiny few Trump Supporters are reassessing their chosen one? How obvious does it need to get before they start to smell the coffee?
Quote: OnceDearSo has Trumps twitter account!!!
I thought National security was something supposedly important to Trumpy.
No tweet denouncing the enemy media that have hounded a great man out of office.
No praise for VP Pence for the great job he did in spotting Flynn's slight misjudgement, (with regrets that it has all been blown out of proportion.)
No Tweet to wish Flynn well in his new role as National Security Consultant to the Kremlin. You do know he owns a consultancy firm?
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Can't wait for the next Saturday Night Live.
According to @RoguePOTUSStaff, cooler heads have prevailed and put Donald on a Twitter timeout since this weekend.
I'm still not sure if RoguePOTUSStaff is legit, but they did mention Donald's Twitter timeout before anyone else seemed to notice he hadn't been tweeting.
And unfortunately, the next SNL isn't until March 4.
Quote: OnceDearUpon further research, one of the main holders of phones to be illuminating those documents was none other that ex-security advisor Michael Flynn............
Well it's just criminally insane.
Back in November I asked a colleague of mine who has worked closely with the DIA for over 20 years what the take was within the agency on their ex-boss. The response was two words: "nut job".
Quote: OnceDearSo has Trumps twitter account!!!
Welp. It looks like Donald wrestled his unsecured Android phone away from his handlers because:
Quote: @realDonaldTrumpThe real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?
Quote: @RoguePOTUSStaffThe good news for POTUS is that accepting Flynn's sudden resg gave him leverage to negotiate the return of his phone. Such a deal maker.
LOL
Quote: @realDonaldTrumpThe real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?:
So, an untrustworthy NS Advisor and the fact that his President didn't know about his shenanigans is not the real story???
OK. It's a bit out of order that the Whitehouse leaks like a sieve. I can see that.. But thanks fsk it does.
Trump was alerted to problems about Flynn by the press. He said he would look into it..
Sessions? Did Sessions not have a copy of those transcripts? If not, why not. If so, why did he sit on them? Sally Yates was fired by Trump... She'd already blown the whistle and had to be silenced under cover of the travel ban controversy..
Who within the Whitehouse did not know that Flynn had done severe wrong. I knew, last month and I'm on a different continent.
NK. That's a clue to what comes next. You can read Trump like a book. Coming next, a pre-emptive attack on NK targets possibly involving Russian forces..
