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gamerfreak
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May 17th, 2017 at 5:42:27 PM permalink
Although I think it should be legal, I can come up with a handful of objective moral obligations to prostitution.

I can't say the same about homosexuality.
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May 17th, 2017 at 5:53:34 PM permalink
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Although I think it should be legal, I can come up with a handful of objective moral obligations to prostitution.



Legal prostitution or illegal prostitution? There are quite a few moral objections to illegal prostitution IMO.

I guess we keep it illegal so some people can justify their low view of it on the moral stage. We have a odd society where we often glorify the depiction of raw violence for entertainment and keep sex shameful unless it's in certain contexts.
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May 17th, 2017 at 6:32:19 PM permalink
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/lawmakers-praise-special-counsel-appointed-oversee-russia-investigation-233453635--abc-news-topstories.html

The news that the Department of Justice has appointed a special counsel to investigate Russia's interference in the 2016 presidential election came as a bombshell in Washington.

- I think we all recognize that the heads of all of the Intelligence agencies in our government cannot all be wrong, and they all have already concluded that the Russian gov't did in fact actively try to interfere with our election.

"As I have stated many times, a thorough investigation will confirm what we already know Ė there was no collusion between my campaign and any foreign entity," President Donald Trump said in a statement.

- Direct collusion ? Probably not. Certainly not directly with Trump.

- Russian attempts to obtain influence through campaign underlings ? There probably was. Through dealings with the Trump Business Empire ? Once again, there probably was.
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May 17th, 2017 at 6:52:44 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Legal prostitution or illegal prostitution? There are quite a few moral objections to illegal prostitution IMO.

I guess we keep it illegal so some people can justify their low view of it on the moral stage. We have a odd society where we often glorify the depiction of raw violence for entertainment and keep sex shameful unless it's in certain contexts.


Illegal prostitution, which it is in Russia....children, human trafficking, pimping, etc etc etc...

Most of those reasons go away if you legalize and regulate.
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May 17th, 2017 at 7:09:09 PM permalink
Speaking of "leaks".

Consider how critical timing of a leak may be?

For instance, had the Entertainment Tonight tape been released 2 or 3 days before the election Hillary might be President.

I believe that is quite likely; Trump's support took a big hit there before it recovered. I think people who were most bothered eventually rationalized that incident, but it took them a couple days. ( "Gym talk, etc.,)
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May 18th, 2017 at 12:49:40 AM permalink
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Quote: Mooseton

Sounds like you are assuming that he is not confident in his sexuality (edit: or that you think it's unacceptable in him and his wife's relationship that you most likely know nothing about) if you think it could be used as black mail. He was still elected so even if the obviously fake story was true you could also assume that most Americans, or even republicans, don't really care about others sexuality. Assuming that to be the case would also make those who keep bringing it up to be bigots against those into golden showers.



U are clearly grasping at straws now

Anyond who knows the history of the american conservative movement would know that paying hookers for golden showers is not a smart move for someone running for president



No grasping, just trying to play along, or rather point out the bigotry of the left in this selective fake news story.

Sure you could argue that traditionally most conservatives would be against this and I'd agree. And id argue the left has traditionally supported sexual freedom. Just not for Donald Trump. Bill Clinton & JFK, they can have sexual freedom, but no DT. Hypocrites?

Edit: But, but, but it could be used against him! That comes across as grasping over here. Once again, how do you know the inner workings of his marriage? Ya just don't. Does it come across negatively, yes of course as most people aren't into that sort of thing. It's just another issue of something that really isn't important to America unless you're a 'grasping' lefty.

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$1700, 18, 19, 1920, 40, 60,... :/ Thx 'Do it again'. I'll try
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May 18th, 2017 at 3:40:21 AM permalink
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-impeachment-odds-president-not-170439427.html

NEWSWEEK:

Trump Impeachment Odds: President Not Likely to Serve Four Years, According to Bookmakers

I think there is also a possibility that he will resign (maybe coming up with some sort of medical related excuse), so he will be able to eventually get on the lecture circuit and criticize everyone else for a living.

I have seen others say that he entered the primary because he craves the spotlight, not necessarily because he thought he had anything to offer or would ever actually get the nomination. It is not unusual for candidates with practically no chance of getting the nomination to participate in primaries.
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May 18th, 2017 at 5:16:50 AM permalink
Fox and Friends is on, which means..... POTUS is angry tweeting!!! YAY!!!

Quote: @realDonaldTrump

With all of the illegal acts that took place in the Clinton campaign & Obama Administration, there was never a special councel appointed!



Quote: @realDonaldTrump

This is the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history!



(He can't spell Counsel. Sad!)
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May 18th, 2017 at 5:21:46 AM permalink
The "single greatest witch hunt" nonsense is funny.... I'm old enough to remember when some bloated orange anus led a multiyear crusade to prove Obama was born in Kenya.
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May 18th, 2017 at 5:21:56 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

The golden showers story didn't "leak" until January, when he was already President Elect...

Ahh yes, I confused it with all the p*ssy grabbing.
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May 18th, 2017 at 9:34:58 AM permalink
Quote: Mooseton

Quote: darkoz

Quote: Mooseton

Sounds like you are assuming that he is not confident in his sexuality (edit: or that you think it's unacceptable in him and his wife's relationship that you most likely know nothing about) if you think it could be used as black mail. He was still elected so even if the obviously fake story was true you could also assume that most Americans, or even republicans, don't really care about others sexuality. Assuming that to be the case would also make those who keep bringing it up to be bigots against those into golden showers.



U are clearly grasping at straws now

Anyond who knows the history of the american conservative movement would know that paying hookers for golden showers is not a smart move for someone running for president



No grasping, just trying to play along, or rather point out the bigotry of the left in this selective fake news story.

Sure you could argue that traditionally most conservatives would be against this and I'd agree. And id argue the left has traditionally supported sexual freedom. Just not for Donald Trump. Bill Clinton & JFK, they can have sexual freedom, but no DT. Hypocrites?

Edit: But, but, but it could be used against him! That comes across as grasping over here. Once again, how do you know the inner workings of his marriage? Ya just don't. Does it come across negatively, yes of course as most people aren't into that sort of thing. It's just another issue of something that really isn't important to America unless you're a 'grasping' lefty.

#keeptheleftoutofmybedroom



Mooseton. I think i see the error in your thinking. You are assuming trumo would be blackmailed about his infidelity to hurt his wife. You keep mentioning i know nothing about his inner marriage

The blackmail would have nothing to do with his marriage. Probably his wife who didnt care if her husband grabbed p***y while she was pregnant with baron and bragged about it on camera would hav no problem with his philandering with golden shower hookers

It is his deeply religious customer right wing conservative base. So please stop saying i know nothing about his marriage. I dont know about his marriage and that has nothing to do with his being a possible blackmail victim
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May 18th, 2017 at 9:57:40 AM permalink
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his being a possible blackmail victim


We should stop blaming the victim.
darkoz
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May 18th, 2017 at 10:02:21 AM permalink
Quote: RS

We should stop blaming the victim.



Yea using the word victim to describe trump is clearly incorrect

Trump could never be a blackmail victim because we all know how trump feels about anyone who is a black male victim
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May 18th, 2017 at 10:04:47 AM permalink
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trump feels about anyone who is a black male victim


???
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October 25th, 2017 at 6:18:18 PM permalink
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The Russian hooker story has never been officially debunked.

Nor have many of the other allegations in the Steele dossier...

But if you scream FAKE NEWS loud enough, I'm sure it will just go away on its own. ;)



Apparently those tactics do work?

or was the whole show a bunch of horse-shoot, and in being poopies, it is simply coming to light.

Seven more years, maybe eleven, certainly at least 15 (yeah, fif(f-ing)teen) more years of a TRUMP as YOUR President.
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October 25th, 2017 at 6:49:52 PM permalink
Quote: Maverick17

Quote: ams288

The Russian hooker story has never been officially debunked.

Nor have many of the other allegations in the Steele dossier...

But if you scream FAKE NEWS loud enough, I'm sure it will just go away on its own. ;)



Apparently those tactics do work?

or was the whole show a bunch of horse-shoot, and in being poopies, it is simply coming to light.



huh
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December 8th, 2017 at 6:18:09 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

I can't imagine how much it must suck to be a partisan on the side that has to defend Nunes and attack Schiff.

Yikes for you. That's rough.

Not as "rough" as this nothingburger:
Statement of the Chairwoman and Ranking Member of the Committee on Ethics Regarding Representative Devin Nunes
Dec 7, 2017

Pursuant to Committee Rule 7(g), the Chairwoman and Ranking Member of the Committee on Ethics (Committee) determined to release the following statement:

On April 6, 2017, the Committee announced that it was aware of public allegations that Representative Devin Nunes may have made unauthorized disclosures of classified information, in violation of House Rules, law, regulations, or other standards of conduct, and that the Committee, pursuant to Committee Rule 18(a), was investigating and gathering more information regarding these allegations. The Committee does not determine whether information is or is not classified. In the course of this investigation, the Committee sought the analysis of Representative Nunesís statements by classification experts in the intelligence community. Based solely on the conclusion of these classification experts that the information that Representative Nunes disclosed was not classified, the Committee will take no further action and considers this matter closed.
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December 8th, 2017 at 6:45:48 PM permalink
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Not as "rough" as this nothingburger:
Statement of the Chairwoman and Ranking Member of the Committee on Ethics Regarding Representative Devin Nunes
Dec 7, 2017

Pursuant to Committee Rule 7(g), the Chairwoman and Ranking Member of the Committee on Ethics (Committee) determined to release the following statement:

On April 6, 2017, the Committee announced that it was aware of public allegations that Representative Devin Nunes may have made unauthorized disclosures of classified information, in violation of House Rules, law, regulations, or other standards of conduct, and that the Committee, pursuant to Committee Rule 18(a), was investigating and gathering more information regarding these allegations. The Committee does not determine whether information is or is not classified. In the course of this investigation, the Committee sought the analysis of Representative Nunesís statements by classification experts in the intelligence community. Based solely on the conclusion of these classification experts that the information that Representative Nunes disclosed was not classified, the Committee will take no further action and considers this matter closed.



I saw "nothingburger" and stopped reading.
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December 8th, 2017 at 6:49:36 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

I saw "nothingburger" and stopped reading.

Then why ask for citations so often?
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December 9th, 2017 at 5:33:42 AM permalink
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Then why ask for citations so often?



Who asked for a citation over this? You're the one who felt the need to revive this thread from the dead to blather on about a "nothingburger."
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SanchoPanza
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December 9th, 2017 at 10:22:14 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

Who asked for a citation over this?

You frequently ask for citations from others while omitting them yourself: "Could you please link to the "apologies" from WashPo and ABC?"
Quote: ams288

You're the one who felt the need to revive this thread from the dead to blather on about a "nothingburger."


And that was the same day and a page apart. Of course, if we are expected to declare a topic "dead" before 60 days, then even a few hours casts a pall on a topic, even if a post corrects a totally inaccurate statement.
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December 9th, 2017 at 2:53:13 PM permalink
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You frequently ask for citations from others while omitting them yourself: "Could you please link to the "apologies" from WashPo and ABC?"



Yes, because I knew you wouldn't be able to provide the link to the nonexistent apologies. And you still haven't.

Next.
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December 9th, 2017 at 4:43:09 PM permalink
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Did you see all the corrections the media has been making. They're saying sorry -- they've been doing that all year. They never apologize.


In the span of two sentences, Trump accuses the media of saying they are sorry all year, and never apologize.

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