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EvenBob
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January 2nd, 2017 at 1:26:29 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

Or are you just making stuff up like usual?



Sigh. Must be nice to have such a selective memory.

(CNN) A new study suggests Obama had the most liberal voting record in 2007.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/31/study-obama-most-liberal-senator-last-year/
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January 2nd, 2017 at 1:50:49 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Not only won't he be impeached,
he will serve a full 8 years. I like
how everybody throws the word
around like it's a real possibility.
Parties do NOT impeach their own
presidents. It's the kiss of death
for their brand, for the sitting
members of congress in that party.




On what basis are you claiming this as a fact?
Two US Presidents have been impeached. One was done by a Congress controlled by his party, one was not.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
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January 2nd, 2017 at 1:57:17 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

The most obvious one that comes to mind is he openly said in the debates (so from his own mouth) that he wants to appoint a supreme court justice that will overturn roe v. wade...




Always split Aces and 8s, and kill babies.
'Emergencies' have always been the pretext on which the safeguards of individual liberty have been eroded.
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January 2nd, 2017 at 2:17:13 PM permalink
Quote: bobbartop

and kill babies.


You can't just say that. It's not politically correct. The proper term is abortion. It sounds nicer and doesn't scare any snowflakes. :)
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January 2nd, 2017 at 2:40:17 PM permalink
Quote: billryan


Two US Presidents have been impeached. One was done by a Congress controlled by his party, one was not.



Yah, politics was slightly different in the
1860's than it is now. there's a reason
no party has impeached it's own
sitting president since then. They learned
a lesson the hard way. No president
has ever been impeached out of office.
And congress didn't impeach either
Johnson or Clinton, the House did.
The Senate voted not to remove.

Trump has as much chance of being
impeached as the EC vote had of failing
to vote for him.
Zero chance.
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January 2nd, 2017 at 2:52:17 PM permalink
Quote: RS

You can't just say that. It's not politically correct. The proper term is abortion. It sounds nicer and doesn't scare any snowflakes. :)



I don't really think it matters who is president, or who is in congress, or how the economy is, or how the stock market is doing. If we don't stop murdering 2 million innocent unborn PEOPLE every year, this country is doomed.
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January 2nd, 2017 at 2:57:11 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Always remember, Clinton was impeached not for the legion of women who claimed he sexually
harassed them, or even the use of his power to sexually use a young woman in the Oval. He was impeached by the house for lying under oath.

Not the least of it is that Clinton is a convicted perjurer who was fined and disbarred.
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January 2nd, 2017 at 3:03:28 PM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza

Not the least of it is that Clinton is a convicted perjurer who was fined and disbarred.



I'm sure Trump will be a convicted perjurer by the end of his term. Give him time...
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EvenBob
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January 2nd, 2017 at 3:06:05 PM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza

Not the least of it is that Clinton is a convicted perjurer who was fined and disbarred.



And his wife thought she could be president
by riding his coattails. I don't think she would
have won in '08, she's just an awful candidate.
She's not likable, she's the opposite of likable.
And in 08 she hadn't been SoS yet, not that
it helped her in '16.
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January 2nd, 2017 at 3:23:42 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

I'm sure Trump will be a convicted perjurer by the end of his term. Give him time...



Please stop bloviating. If you really mean that we have a bet. Any sum up to $10,000. Bet to be confirmed by a week from today.
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January 2nd, 2017 at 4:00:43 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Please stop bloviating. If you really mean that we have a bet. Any sum up to $10,000. Bet to be confirmed by a week from today.



No deal.

I'm like EvenBob in that regard, I don't make bets with you people.

But of course he will perjure himself. The question is, will he get caught?
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January 2nd, 2017 at 4:09:53 PM permalink
Yeah that "whole put your money where your piehole is flapping" is overrated as a truth barometer.
Homelessnyc
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January 2nd, 2017 at 4:23:45 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

No deal.

I'm like EvenBob in that regard, I don't make bets with you people.

But of course he will perjure himself. The question is, will he get caught?



You people? Classy

You're talking like if he did perjure himself that it would be the first time in history that ever happened to a person in office.

I guess you have the typical selective memory. Must be nice
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January 2nd, 2017 at 4:32:16 PM permalink
Quote: Homelessnyc

You're talking like if he did perjure himself that it would be the first time in history that ever happened to a person in office.

I guess you have the typical selective memory. Must be nice



Selective memory? Erm... perhaps if you read through the thread you'll notice that I brought this up in response to Bill Clinton perjuring himself.
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EvenBob
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January 2nd, 2017 at 4:33:42 PM permalink
Quote: ams288


But of course he will perjure himself. The question is, will he get caught?



For the last 18 months you've been
laughing and laughing about how
easy Trump would be to beat if
he ran against Hillary. Now that
Trump is president, why would we
take any of your silly predictions
seriously. I would think you would
learn from your mistakes.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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January 2nd, 2017 at 4:37:59 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Now that
Trump is president, why would we
take any of your silly predictions
seriously. I would think you would
learn from your mistakes.



Don't ask me!

I'm still gonna make the predictions though.... it's fun being on offense. Especially against the weakest PEOTUS in history.
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January 2nd, 2017 at 4:41:22 PM permalink
Quote: ams288



I'm still gonna make the predictions though.... it's fun being on offense. Especially against the weakest PEOTUS in history.



He hasn't taken office but he's the weakest ever? I thought Jim Carter would have died being the worst president in history. However, he can thank the current president for taking the lead.

Your replies speaks volume of your intentions on this topic.
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January 2nd, 2017 at 4:43:05 PM permalink
Quote: Homelessnyc

He hasn't taken office but he's the weakest ever?



Do you not know what a PEOTUS is?

Seriously, embarrassing.
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Homelessnyc
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January 2nd, 2017 at 4:51:24 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

Do you not know what a PEOTUS is?

Seriously, embarrassing.



Excuse me for reading it quickly and not notice the E.

However you can't only point that out and not reply to the other facts stated.

Typical of a weak positon. Seriously embarrassing
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January 2nd, 2017 at 4:53:17 PM permalink
Thankfully, we have the greatest political system in the world. We have checks and balances. We give opportunity to people that want to better themselves and make a difference in this world. We live in the greatest country on earth. We need to stay hungry, productive, and diligent. All great empires have eventually seen their demise due to complacency and ignorance.
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January 2nd, 2017 at 4:54:23 PM permalink
Quote: Homelessnyc

He hasn't taken office but he's the weakest ever?


http://www.gallup.com/poll/201158/skeptical-trump-handle-presidential-duties.aspx
When was the last time a majority of Americans didn't think the incoming president could actually do the job?

I don't mean whether they like or dislike his policies, I mean whether he can do the job at all. Look at the poll numbers. They're embarrassing in comparison to either Obama or Bush.
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January 2nd, 2017 at 4:57:21 PM permalink
Quote: Homelessnyc

Excuse me for reading it quickly and not notice the E.

However you can't only point that out and not reply to the other facts stated.



Besides your inability to comprehend the difference between PEOTUS and POTUS, there were no facts stated in your post.
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January 2nd, 2017 at 5:04:11 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

Besides your inability to comprehend the difference between PEOTUS and POTUS, there were no facts stated in your post.



There was no inability as I've explained the oversite. However, I really question your reading comprehension skills.

Good luck in the future you'll need it. I'm not going to be trolled any further by you.
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January 2nd, 2017 at 5:06:11 PM permalink
Quote: MathExtremist

http://www.gallup.com/poll/201158/skeptical-trump-handle-presidential-duties.aspx
When was the last time a majority of Americans didn't think the incoming president could actually do the job?

I don't mean whether they like or dislike his policies, I mean whether he can do the job at all. Look at the poll numbers. They're embarrassing in comparison to either Obama or Bush.



So a sample size of 1028 people represent the whole country. Glad I know this now
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January 2nd, 2017 at 5:13:00 PM permalink
Quote: ams288


I'm still gonna make the predictions though....



No doubt, why let your track record
stop you, drive our opinion of you
even further into ground. In 2012
I supported Romney. When he lost,
did I come back here a sore loser and
make wild predictions to cover up the
totally wrong one I'd made? Hell no,
I didn't say anything for 6 weeks and
still have said nothing about it. That's
what good losers do, they suck it up
and move on.
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January 2nd, 2017 at 5:24:03 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

In 2012
I supported Romney. When he lost,
did I come back here a sore loser and
make wild predictions to cover up the
totally wrong one I'd made? Hell no,
I



Obama's a secret Muslim.
Hillary is deathly ill.
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January 2nd, 2017 at 5:32:08 PM permalink
Quote: Homelessnyc

So a sample size of 1028 people represent the whole country. Glad I know this now



Oh jeez. Apparently you don't know how polls work, either.
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January 2nd, 2017 at 5:33:14 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

Oh jeez. Apparently you don't know how polls work, either.



Oh jeez another worthless reply
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January 2nd, 2017 at 5:41:56 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

perhaps if you read through the thread you'll notice that I brought this up in response to Bill Clinton perjuring himself.

If you are referring to this quotation: "Not the least of it is that Clinton is a convicted perjurer who was fined and disbarred," you are quite mistaken, IIRC. It might be a good idea to check the easily available record.
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January 2nd, 2017 at 6:10:25 PM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza

If you are referring to this quotation: "Not the least of it is that Clinton is a convicted perjurer .



When was Clinton ever convicted of anything?
I missed that headline.
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January 2nd, 2017 at 6:37:01 PM permalink
Quote: Homelessnyc

So a sample size of 1028 people represent the whole country. Glad I know this now

If 538 people can represent the whole country, why not 1028? Do you deny the validity of statistics as a discipline altogether -- or only when you don't like the results?
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January 2nd, 2017 at 6:54:01 PM permalink
Quote: MathExtremist

If 538 people can represent the whole country, why not 1028? Do you deny the validity of statistics as a discipline altogether -- or only when you don't like the results?



You do realize those 538 people (electoral college) aren't typically just voting for whomever the hell they want.....but for whomever the people of their states voted for? (This is a rhetorical question.)
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January 2nd, 2017 at 6:55:44 PM permalink
So the people in the article go thru the same process of being selected as the 538 members of the electoral college or do you like to make apple and orange comparisons hoping people don't understand how things operate?
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January 2nd, 2017 at 7:06:56 PM permalink
Republicans are getting prepared to work with Trump

Quote:

House Republicans have moved to adopt a proposal weakening the outside ethics watchdog for Congress, removing its independence.

The House Republican Conference on Monday adopted Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlatte's (R-Va.) amendment to the larger rules package being voted on Tuesday, the first day of the new Congress.

[...]

It would bar the office from considering anonymous tips about potential ethics violations and prevent disclosures about investigations.



http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-gop-votes-to-rein-in-independent-ethics-watchdog/ar-BBxPwWL?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
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January 2nd, 2017 at 7:19:11 PM permalink
Quote: Homelessnyc

So the people in the article go thru the same process of being selected as the 538 members of the electoral college or do you like to make apple and orange comparisons hoping people don't understand how things operate?

If you didn't understand how things operated, you wouldn't have understood the reference. And since you *do* understand how things operate, you've been deliberately obtuse by rejecting statistics. You can play dumb or you can play smart, but you can't do both consistently. Pick a side, friend.
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January 2nd, 2017 at 7:33:35 PM permalink
Quote: MathExtremist

If you didn't understand how things operated, you wouldn't have understood the reference. And since you *do* understand how things operate, you've been deliberately obtuse by rejecting statistics. You can play dumb or you can play smart, but you can't do both consistently. Pick a side, friend.



I pick the side that keeps people like you honest, friend
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January 2nd, 2017 at 7:42:21 PM permalink
Quote: Homelessnyc

I pick the side that keeps people like you honest, friend

Denying the validity of statistics is as honest as denying the validity of nuclear chemistry or archaeology, but you're not claiming that the Earth is only 6000 years old just because you don't believe in carbon-14 dating or because you've seen paintings in Ken Ham's living room of a boy riding a dinosaur.
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January 2nd, 2017 at 7:53:27 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Trump has as much chance of being
impeached as the EC vote had of failing
to vote for him.
Zero chance.



You might be right Evenbob. Trump implied his ardent supporters would follow him even if he shot someone on 5th ave, why would they push to impeach him? He implied they are too stupid to do what's right or just.

Congress likely won't act without public support.
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January 2nd, 2017 at 7:57:33 PM permalink
Quote: MathExtremist

Denying the validity of statistics is as honest as denying the validity of nuclear chemistry or archaeology, but you're not claiming that the Earth is only 6000 years old just because you don't believe in carbon-14 dating or because you've seen paintings in Ken Ham's living room of a boy riding a dinosaur.



And you're back talking nonsense and you want people to take you seriously... good luck with that
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January 2nd, 2017 at 8:06:39 PM permalink
Quote: Homelessnyc

And you're back talking nonsense and you want people to take you seriously... good luck with that

Which part is nonsense -- the part about a boy riding a dinosaur?

That's from Ken Ham's wild imagination and is the sort of thing one might believe if one denies the validity of scientific methods.
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January 2nd, 2017 at 8:43:15 PM permalink
Dafuq am I reading? I can't even
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January 2nd, 2017 at 10:07:20 PM permalink
Quote: MathExtremist

Which part is nonsense -- the part about a boy riding a dinosaur?

That's from Ken Ham's wild imagination and is the sort of thing one might believe if one denies the validity of scientific methods.

We jumped the dinosaur shark.
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January 2nd, 2017 at 10:18:10 PM permalink
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dinosaur shark

Next Wednesday on Syfy...
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January 3rd, 2017 at 4:41:38 AM permalink
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Next Wednesday on Syfy...

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January 3rd, 2017 at 4:58:41 AM permalink
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Republicans are getting prepared to work with Trump

Quote:

House Republicans have moved to adopt a proposal weakening the outside ethics watchdog for Congress, removing its independence.

The House Republican Conference on Monday adopted Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlatte's (R-Va.) amendment to the larger rules package being voted on Tuesday, the first day of the new Congress.

[...]

It would bar the office from considering anonymous tips about potential ethics violations and prevent disclosures about investigations.



http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-gop-votes-to-rein-in-independent-ethics-watchdog/ar-BBxPwWL?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp



Congressional Republicans are like James Bond villains. Just pure evil scumbags.

This is just another slap in the face to any Trump voter who was naïve enough to believe the "drain the swamp" B.S.

#trumpgrets
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January 3rd, 2017 at 5:40:46 AM permalink
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I'm like EvenBob



I am not sure what to make of this.....
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January 3rd, 2017 at 5:56:07 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

I am not sure what to make of this.....



Don't selectively edit out the rest of the sentence and you should be able to make of it what I intended.
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I don't really think it matters who is president, or who is in congress, or how the economy is, or how the stock market is doing. If we don't stop murdering 2 million innocent unborn PEOPLE every year, this country is doomed.

They're people when they're a clump of cells? Well shit, you murder every single day when you step on a bug, etc. Where is your war cry for the things you murder? Do you eat meat? You are a murderer of animals. Where's the line? Just humans? What qualifies as a human, a clump of cells? After that... where do you get the right to tell others what to do with their body? Why do you hold this belief? Is it your RELIGION and your belief that your invisible friend in the sky couldn't care less about starving children in the world, or the diseases spreading all over, but my oh my he SURELY cares what a woman does with her body that should be between her and her primary care physician??? Grow up and be a logical adult instead of a child believing in santa clause (or whatever name you want to call him/it/her/etc).

*Disclaimers: I'm an independent. No I'm not an atheist. No I'm not any kind of vegetarian. Yes I think everyone is entitled to their own wrong beliefs. No I don't think you should be able to impose/enforce YOUR beliefs on others.

Religion is like a penis. It's fine to have one. Most who have one are very proud of it... and no it's not okay to try to force yours on me.

Yes - I'm pro-abortion... I'm also pro-adoption, pro-birth control, pro-abstinence, pro-reality, and pro-RIGHTS for people to make their own damn decisions that don't affect me.

Trump LIED during the debates claiming they were "ripping" arms and legs out of women to use simple psychological fear on simple minded people to make them think this was really a thing... when it is NOT. People hear "ripping arms and legs" and suddenly it's "oh my lord we must do something about this!" rather than "hmmm, I wonder if the crap he's spewing out is legit/factual/relevant" and that's the problem with society and why fake news is spreading like it is. People are lazy moronic idiots who don't want to do a lick of research to find out the truth. They just take the first bits of idiocy thrown at them or by whomever is shouting the loudest instead of who's more accurate. Same idiots don't vaccinate their children. Same idiots think climate change isn't real. Our world is legitimately heading towards the movie/documentary Idiocracy. Idiots are out-breeding intelligent people.
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January 3rd, 2017 at 7:39:04 AM permalink
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Religion is like a penis. It's fine to have one. Most who have one are very proud of it... and no it's not okay to try to force yours on me..


I showed this to my wife. After she finished laughing her response was that she is perfectly happy going thru life with neither a penis nor a religion.
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