DrawingDead
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November 30th, 2014 at 9:38:58 PM permalink
Quote: RS

I was stopped in (Kansas?) about a year ago for

...<SNIP>...

Pretty sure it's mostly just a southern thing. I don't plan on being in the South any time soon....at least without a gun I won't be.

Kansas isn't where it use to be?
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November 30th, 2014 at 9:57:18 PM permalink
Just stumbled upon this. I found page 6 informative.

Quote: p5/6

These guidelines set minimum net equity levels that generally must be met before federal forfeiture actions are instituted.
(...)
(3) Cash—minimum amount must be at least $5,000



Obviously, local jurisdictions may have lower thresholds for seizure, but the "$5000" amount seems to be a recurring theme in the videos.

Also informative were the defined procedures for seizing travelers cheques.

TL;DR: Figure out a way to not carry cash.
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November 30th, 2014 at 10:07:03 PM permalink
The best thing I can think of is to deposit the money in a bank with a ton of branches (BOA, Chase, CITI) closest to the casino you AP'ed from. Of course this might be a problem if it's a tribal casino in the middle of nowhere.
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November 30th, 2014 at 10:13:36 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

You are unfortunately way off base.

Seizure of rightfully owned cash and vehicles is a serious problem because it is a major source of funds for local departments. Explanations may be given on the spot but even if believed, the seizure will take place. You will need to pay legal fees to get anything back and your first "hearing" is NOT before a magistrate, its before the prosecutor.

Sure sometimes the magic word "casino" is similar to invoking the "chamber of commerce", no cop wants bad headlines for the businesses in town, but sometimes its "drug money" and the cop is salivating more than his dog is. An empty secret compartment in the car can get the vehicles seized as being modified for transporting contraband.

License plate scanners? They exist. Whether the cops in the Gulfport area use them or not I don't know.

Repo men now have scanners for parked cars as well as moving cars.



Ok, let's take it point by point.

Show me someone, anyone who has had their car taken for no valid reason. So you are telling me people are being pulled over for no reason and their cars are being taken?? Where is the Huffington Post on this? I must have missed it while they were defending everyone else in the world.

Next, who the hell has a "secret" compartment in his or her car? And again WHY are they searching your car. Again are you saying people are being pulled over for no reason and then the cops are looking for empty secret compartments? Like everyone else, I saw "Walking Tall", but Bufford is dead and the south isn't that bad anymore.

Casino? It's not a dirty word anymore and they are everywhere.

License plate scanners. Yea they are there for people who use the EZ pass lane without one. As for tracking, I must be Public Enemy Number 1 because I have traveled from PA to AC over 100 times this year. I guessing am lucky they don't have cops looking at people like me who spend hundreds a month on EZ pass, instead they are looking for people who travel an untracked road in MS every 3 months.

Why does any Repo man have any concerns with cars he doesn't have a claim on? Of course they have GPS on every car bought on a shitty credit plan. They can shut the at off if you don't pay when you buy at a high interest "buy here....pay here " location. Again are you saying Repo Men Are watching ME??

Maybe, just maybe people traveling with 20K in cash should have concerns, but you are overblowing it like they need to be prepared to be targeted and their money taken by rouge cops.
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November 30th, 2014 at 10:19:37 PM permalink
Quote: djatc

The best thing I can think of is to deposit the money in a bank with a ton of branches



I don't recall which bank, but I do recall someone saying they had a problem making a large (>$500) cash withdrawal without an appointment.

Probably worth confirming that you can get your money out before you bother to put your money in.
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RS
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November 30th, 2014 at 10:22:05 PM permalink
I think for large sums, you are supposed to (or should?) make an appointment saying you're gonna be pulling out a large amount on a certain date.

I don't think $500 is a "large sum" though.
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November 30th, 2014 at 10:23:49 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

Why does any Repo man have any concerns with cars he doesn't have a claim on?



My understanding is that when they're not performing "asset recovery", they're investigating for possible future "asset recoveries", and that there's an information network many of them feed into.

Submitting asset location information to the network makes them money.
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November 30th, 2014 at 10:26:17 PM permalink
I don't carry cash, for a variety of reasons, mostly because in 2014 I can use my debt card anywhere and faster than waiting for change, etc.... Also the security factor of having nothing to lose if I get mugged.

But one time I do carry cash is to (and less frequently from) the casino. I don't use casino ATMs on principle because of their outrageous fees. So I stop at a free atm on the way and carry with me.
Granted in no case would it be anywhere close to over 10k, so I doubt I would have to worry, though with some NJ police....

But Civil Forfeiture has been a controversial issue for a while. That John Oliver segment is really good, and he is not somebody I usually agree with. But libertarians have been talking about this for a while. I think The first learned of this from Ron Paul some years back, but it's good some of the mainstream media is starting to catch on.

I don't think it should be legal. The only way a cop should be able to seize private property is temperarily as evidence and return it after the trial. Even if money was acquired from selling drugs, the cops should not be able to seize cash, especially since the cash is seized on suspicion, even if a drug dealer gets arrested that does not mean his cash is from drugs. It's a dangerous road to go down when local police are encouraged to seize money for departmental use.

If you look across the country some departments take advantage of civil forfeiture far more than others. And since civil forfeiture requires almost no evidence, police don't even have to cook up a fancy story they can literally just say "suspicious money" and take it. Another great case for police Federlization...
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November 30th, 2014 at 10:27:38 PM permalink
Quote: RS

I think for large sums, you are supposed to (or should?) make an appointment saying you're gonna be pulling out a large amount on a certain date.

I don't think $500 is a "large sum" though.



Exactly my bank allows me to make $1200 ATM withdrawals, also I've pulled $8,000 or so at a branch (in a grocery store lol) without prior notice, but then again I am in Las Vegas.
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November 30th, 2014 at 10:29:12 PM permalink
You can get your ATM withdrawal limit raised to a very high limit by simply contacting your bank. However some ATMs have their own built in limits.

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