An idea for a winning STRATEGY (Roulette)

A little more simulating shows that the number of spins (double-zero) needed before the probability that a run of 10 blacks or 10 reds occurs is 50% is about 1160.

Quote: ThatDonGuy

A little more simulating shows that the number of spins (double-zero) needed before the probability that a run of 10 blacks or 10 reds occurs is 50% is about 1160.

that is very good.
a simple Markov chain shows for
1159 spins: 0.499891958
1160 spins: 0.500192979
1161 spins: 0.500493818

The average number of spins to see a run of 10 blacks or 10 reds is
1669.504

Quote: jumpingjack

I have a friend who plays a "system"

Where does he park cars?

Quote: jumpingjack

he walks vegas all day long looking for a display without any of those 7 numbers showing

Hope he makes enough to cover his shoe leather.

Quote: EvenBob

I see this all time on gambling
forums. I always wonder when
people spell lose 'loose', what
do they think when they see
the word 'lose'. Do they have
to look it up? Is it foreign to
them?

You must really ask the guy in your avatar , I mean he is the master of words, isn't he... !?

What a waste of a post, are you the grammar police, come and arrest me.... lol

Thanks for the posts about percent possibilities etc., what I gave was really just an example. I was more interested to see if there is a way to apply such a bet in a casino...!?

Because as we know the casino does not take such a bet and you can only bet on one roll of the roulette only. And as mentioned here many times, if you wait to see 9 consecutive reds, then put your 1000 dollars on the black, that is not the same thing as what I mentioned, in fact if one see 9 consecutive reds, should think, hell, we might as well get another one... !

Quote: FleaStiff

lose: What happens if you don't win or push.
loose: a quality attributed to slot machines and women who chat up middle-aged men in casinos.
loosen: what people have to do with grammar and spelling standards as keyboards and fingers age.

Very clever. Kudos for that. :)

But I disagree with the premise. They are 2 distinctly different words, and should be used correctly. Loosening standards is not the way to go. Learning to use the words correctly is much preferred.

Quote: beachbumbabs

Very clever. Kudos for that. :)

But I disagree with the premise. They are 2 distinctly different words, and should be used correctly. Loosening standards is not the way to go. Learning to use the words correctly is much preferred.

Unloosen means the same as loosen. I believe it’s the only word in English where adding an “un” prefix does not change the meaning.

Quote: aruzin

What a waste of a post, are you the grammar police, come and arrest me.... lol

Really, a waste? Dollars to doughnuts
you use it correctly from now on.

Quote: aruzin

Basically what I like to be able to bet is, if you turn the wheel a 1000 times I want to bet a 1000 dollars that you won't get 10 consecutive reds (or 10 black for that matter), if I win I get 2000 dollars back (my original plus equal win) , if I loose I loose my 1000 dollar bet.. ! Any way to do that ... !?

Quote: aruzin

you can only bet on one roll of the roulette only.

Hi Aruzin, Maybe I didn't explain well....
There is NO RULE that says 'you can only bet on one roll of the roulette'!
If you want to bet on the next ten rolls, you are perfectly welcome to do so: That is the very nature of progressive betting. You decide what eventuality you wish to cover and you hold back the requisite stake to make each section of the bet. What you cannot do is persuade the casino to give you any special deal on the payout and so you cannot construct a winning system from it. Then you just have to sit and Martingale wager through the next 10 spins and rinse repeat until you see 1000 spins or get wiped out.

For simplicity, can we make it bet $1023 that you won't get any 'non-black' outcomes in 10 consecutive spins? I say this because casinos don't accept bets that involve odd cents and it makes the maths easy. Thus you simply Martingale wager with an initial $1 bet on Black. Promise yourself that you'll see the martingale through 10 spins and you are effectively putting $1023 at stake.

Of course, this bet keeps getting resolved every pesky time you win $1 profit. If you want to bet that you won't see 10 consecutive 'non-black' spins within the next 1000 spins, you simply need to keep restarting your wager every pesky time you win. Your net profit after 1000 spins is the sum of the odd $1 wins less what's recently depleted from your 1023 bankroll. The max you can lose is 1023 and the max you can win is 1000 (Likely much less over 1000 spin limited session)

I'll grant you that this is not a pure double or nothing proposition as you can walk out of the session anywhere between being $1023 down to $1000 up and typically you'll be just worse than break even. I was just showing how you can wager over multiple spins while limiting your loss, if you so wish.

If you prefer, you could restrict yourself to outcomes of total wipeout or double your money. Then set those outcomes as your exit point, rather than the 1000 spin limit.

Quote: beachbumbabs

Very clever. Kudos for that. :)

Thanks.

Quote: beachbumbabs

Loosening standards is not the way to go. Learning to use the words correctly is much preferred.

Oh, I would quite agree, but I don't speak with green ink and after my recent cranial hypertension episode I find myself making simple errors all the time. Junked my car today because i'm no longer a safe driver.

Quote: ApellesPromptov

Oh man, can't we simply enjoy the dumb luck that is the probability theory...

This is my favorite roulette strategy.

I don’t really enjoy roulette. When I get dragged I bet my family birthdays because if they hit and I wasn’t on them I would feel guilty. Once I quickly run through a buy in I go back to games in enjoy.

Quote: unJon

Once I quickly run through a buy in I go back to games I enjoy.

Best strategy of all. Why pay any house edge if you don't enjoy the game? Unfortunately many games have a social aspect and spouses, out-of-town visitors, etc. often like company at a roulette table.

Quote: unJon

I don’t really enjoy roulette. When I get dragged I bet my family birthdays because if they hit and I wasn’t on them I would feel guilty. Once I quickly run through a buy in I go back to games in enjoy.

I think it's better always play for fun. I also rarely play roulette, because I can’t follow any other strategy than pure luck.

The game is beatable if you can find a biased wheel but it's more trouble that it's worth.

Frankly, I've never understood Roulette, or Bacarrat for that matter. The math is easy but I just can't find the appeal. I might as well just flip a coin like they do in "Vegas Vacation."

Quote: Lovecomps

The game is beatable if you can find a biased wheel but it's more trouble that it's worth.

I don't know if it's more trouble than it's worth, assuming you really know what you're doing.

Quote: seven

The Wizard himself states there are strategies to win- So lets get to the point and discuss that if we can...........

did the Wizard explain how this would work? I can tell You that there is no strategy to beat European one zero or US double zero roulette. save Your time and efforts.
my 2 cents

I have not read his roulette page in some years, but I recall it saying, the only way to legally beat roulette (not cheating) is look for a biased wheel. But, he also says this are increasingly hard to find as casinos become more methodical and efficient and balancing and testing.

And, this is a time consuming strategy (watching thousands of spins at every wheel looking for patterns that are almost never there)....