Dude, I give you props for having the knowledge and discipline to make a consistent profit playing a game designed to offer a disadvantage. But, if you can win like that you don't want to be tracked in a computer so you can get freebies. Be as anonymous as you can and buy your own freebies with our money . I kinda think he was of the mind that the huge line of credit would woo a host into giving him all sorts of free stuff knowing he has a large amount of money available to lose.
Good post, welcome to the forum.
There are two schools of thought about whether card counters should fly above or below the radar. There are pros and cons both ways. Ian Anderson, author of Burning the Tables in Las Vegas, is the best-known advocate of the flying above the radar method. Of course he makes sacrifices in how he plays to avoid the red flags, but believes the comps and longevity at the tables more than makes up for it. However, if your guy was a counter, playing two hands total over four hours does not exactly make you look like a recreational player. So I'm not defending his particular act.
Of the two cruising altitudes, I think flying above the radar is usually preferable for full-time career counters, and under the radar for part-time. Also, presenting a player card in the first place helps to deflect scrutiny in the pit, as most floor supervisors believe as you do, that counters like to play anonymously.
Dude, I give you props for having the knowledge and discipline to make a consistent profit playing a game designed to offer a disadvantage. But, if you can win like that you don't want to be tracked in a computer so you can get freebies.
Maybe I'm in a different league from what you have to deal with (my typical trip budget is $500, and I play in Downtown LV, the locals casinos, and Laughlin). I haven't had a losing trip in a long time, but I still get free and reduced rate room offers, and the occasional comped meal. I don't ask for any favors like last-minute rooms, and I don't expect any favors.
I have always wondered how my play is being tracked. Over the last couple of years, I've generally been winning $2xx or $3xx per trip. Maybe at that level, they don't care so much about my play, and assume they'll get it back eventually. And so they leave me on the marketing lists.
There are two schools of thought about whether card counters should fly above or below the radar.
Seems to me this guy risked nothing with his trial balloon; if he is forced to play anonymously, he can still do it. Unless the system is passing a photo of him around, in which case he is screwed anyway. His trial balloon might help him with some "intel" on this.
Did you misread the screen or did someone input the data incorrectly? Perhaps they were noting that ht was placing his wager on two different squares and thus playing two hands?Quote: justaguy
I also noticed some odd things like he once played 2x hands of blackjack in 4 hours (casinos deal around 70 hands per hour so 4 hours should have around 280 hands played). .
Two hands over the course of four hours indicates no one was waiting for seats and he must have really been bored or desperately in need of comped booze.
he used a previous example of this with 1x,xxx meaning the guy won 10 to 19 thousand dollars.
Just figured Id clearify hes refering ot 20ish hands not two.
You seem to be very knowlegable re: Comps & hosts.
I have a few questions you might be able to answer:
1) Does the host really not care if you win or lose? If you are a consistent winner, how does that affect what the host can or can not do?
2) Does the host have the power to influence the offers that are sent out by "the computer"? I've had situations where my host relations were quite strained, yet the computer continued to spit out very good offers.
3) The MGM hosts seem to have a lot of discresionary power. However, the Harrah's hosts seem to be able to do diddly squat. Can you confirm? What, exactly, can a Harrah's host do for a player? Is it possible they can comp charges and have them NOT taken away from your Reward points?
Thanks for posting. Hopefully, you will continue to be a source of great information.