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I think this is Bull. In fact, I know it is, because you only gamble for the juice, the action. Knowing the math doesn't hurt the juice of the game.
In movies, in cinema, there is a concept called "suspension of disbelief." This means that you CAN enjoy the movie as fiction, just as a story or a dream, because you're not going to fact-check it like Neil de Grasse Tyson criticizing the fine movie "Gravity."
When you're seeing a science fiction movie (or having a dream), it doesn't have to obey the laws of Euclidean Geometry, aside from having impact, or being plausible on face value, as it's the action of the story you seek. You can fact-check any movie you've enjoyed and say that "some work of fiction" was, in fact, a good piece of fiction or a moving story.
Playing against a reasonable house edge is an utter non-issue; If you've ever played golf with a handicap you've disagreed with, it's still makes for a hell of a game, perhaps even better. May even increase the juice for you. Skill is involved in both.
I work as a game designer, and the BEST way to evaluate a game is in a casino with my real money in action after the preliminary math checks out. It's next to impossible to properly evaluate a game with play money for its juice, its fun-factor worthiness, and trust me on this. Real juice requires your money on the line, as it is your hook.
If you don't gamble because you "know the math," or feel that "it is a sin," or whatever, you lay little claim as to what it really is all about.
Our own Mike here knows math (Duh!), and he plays and gambles. God Bless Him. He especially loves prop bets where the math is absent, indeterminate, or a hunch, and so math is NOT involved in gambling.
A week from now, Mission146/Pierce will do his "Mission's mission," - which is to scoff down a century of Chicken McNuggets. I'm betting that those looking for leftovers will go home hungry, as does he. Mike is betting on an Olympic Hurling qualifier. This is pure sports betting juice action where NO GLI/BMM report can possibly be written. (I had to strike that because I'm betting no juice will be flying on the 21st.)
If we're betting, it's about action.
What's your take?
Quote: Paigowdan....that I don't gamble "because I know the math."
I think this is Bull. In fact, I know it is, because you only gamble for the juice, the action. Knowing the math doesn't hurt the juice of the game.
In movies, in cinema, there is a concept called "suspension of disbelief." This means that you CAN enjoy the movie as fiction, just as a story or a dream, because you're not going to fact-check it like Neil de Grasse Tyson criticizing the fine movie "Gravity."
When you're seeing a science fiction movie (or having a dream), it doesn't have to obey the laws of Euclidean Geometry, aside from having impact, or being plausible on face value, as it's the action of the story you seek. You can fact-check any movie you've enjoyed and say that "some work of fiction" was, in fact, a good piece of fiction or a moving story.
Playing against a reasonable house edge is an utter non-issue; If you've ever played golf with a handicap you've disagreed with, it's still makes for a hell of a game, perhaps even better. May even increase the juice for you. Skill is involved in both.
I work as a game designer, and the BEST way to evaluate a game is in a casino with my real money in action after the preliminary math checks out. It's next to impossible to properly evaluate a game with play money for its juice, its fun-factor worthiness, and trust me on this. Real juice requires your money on the line, as it is your hook.
If you don't gamble because you "know the math," or feel that "it is a sin," or whatever, you lay little claim as to what it really is all about.
Our own Mike here knows math (Duh!), and he plays and gambles. God Bless Him. He especially loves prop bets where the math is absent, indeterminate, or a hunch, and so math is NOT involved in gambling.
A week from now, Mission146/Pierce will do his "Mission's mission," - which is to scoff down a century of Chicken McNuggets. I'm betting that those looking for leftovers will go home hungry, as does he. Mike is betting on an Olympic Hurling qualifier. This is pure sports betting juice action where NO GLI/BMM report can possibly be written. (I had to strike that because I'm betting no juice will be flying on the 21st.)
If we're betting, it's about action.
What's your take?
JUICE baby!!! I talk about this all the time with my casino friends. If we were not at a certain limit table, it wouldn't mean anything. The bet has to mean something to you to lose or it is not worth playing. I could sit at a $5 table for 48 hours straight and not get a thrill but, put me at a black chip table and suddenly I am interested. We all have our set point for where we feel 'involved'.
- EV situations: Entertainment or money
Wait, Mike bets curling? (I assume that's what you meant). I want a piece of that action!!Quote: PaigowdanMike is betting on an Olympic Hurling qualifier.
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I almost never make -E.V. bets now. I play -E.V. craps for the action. I realized when I was losing a lot of money playing craps I wasn't having fun anymore while playing. So I only play if I'm having fun (with friends, good crew, etc.) Otherwise you'll find me grinding on video poker or taking advantage of some table game.
Quote: djatc+EV situations: Gamble for money
- EV situations: Entertainment or money
I'm thinking:
Once fair and low enough house edge/EV and an exciting game (craps, etc. ) I'm in it, I'm involved.
I might be considered sick or something by mere mortals or non-gamblers, but I feel more alive for having it in my life. This is exactly the same thing and in the way that golfers must play golf (and they too spend on equipment, membership, and fees).
With great resources, it is better to live in a smaller mansion with action, than in an estate that ridiculous. There IS no excuse for Bill Gates to bet $5 a hand when he does play, this angers me.
Once recreational money, above and beyond all bills paid (mortgage, car payments, "life money"), it's game for action. I like that: "game for action."
My next vacation is right after Christmas, visiting old college friends now living in Arizona. Of course I am staying at Talking Stick (Casino Arizona) in Scottsdale. (plus their Pai Gow tables are EZ Pai Gow.) If I lose, I won't eat at Denny's (gak!), I'll eat comped, succumbing to casino marketing logic as it affects my bankroll. If you say I overpaid if I'll lose, I'll just say I had both action and fine dining. Comps are a bad beat insurance win factor. gotta understand the psychology. A free bad beat payoff.
Anyway, I look forward to next Saturday.
Quote: tournamentkingAnyone who plays a casino game for real money is gambling, whether they think they are playing with or without an edge. I've seen a few on other forums who say because they are ap's they don't gamble. Baloney. You never know if you've going to win or lose any bet, and when you use real money it is only one thing: gambling.
You're right.
We're there to gamble, straight up and simply put.
Google "Raison D'etre" = our reason for being.
I am a degenerate at times concerning gambling. (And there is no "part-time" degeneracy). To myself, not quite proud of it, - but absolutely accepting of it.
Quote: aceofspades
JUICE baby!!! I talk about this all the time with my casino friends. If we were not at a certain limit table, it wouldn't mean anything. The bet has to mean something to you to lose or it is not worth playing. I could sit at a $5 table for 48 hours straight and not get a thrill but, put me at a black chip table and suddenly I am interested. We all have our set point for where we feel 'involved'.
With all due respect, I personally disagree with respect to table games. I get the majority of my enjoyment out of three things:
1.) Winning (Amount doesn't matter)
2.) Tipping well.
3.) Taking part in things that are unlikely.
Quote: Mission146With all due respect, I personally disagree with respect to table games. I get the majority of my enjoyment out of three things:
1.) Winning (Amount doesn't matter)
2.) Tipping well.
3.) Taking part in things that are unlikely.
Mission - you don't enjoy the juice?
So if you are losing do you still tip?
Would the dealer beating you on 3 consecutive hands making a 21 where you had doubled and made 20 count as "taking part in things that are unlikely?
Where does socializing fit in?
Quote: aceofspadesput me at a black chip table and suddenly I am interested. We all have our set point for where we feel 'involved'.
I love that kind of talk, Ace. Are you trying to
set me up for disappointment?
Quote: aceofspadesMission - you don't enjoy the juice?
So if you are losing do you still tip?
Would the dealer beating you on 3 consecutive hands making a 21 where you had doubled and made 20 count as "taking part in things that are unlikely?
Where does socializing fit in?
1.) I'm a pretty low-risk gambler. It doesn't take me very long to stop if I am losing. When I do gamble, it's mainly just because I find it relaxing, so I wouldn't want to be playing any amount that I would actually care about on Table Games. That's one of the benefits of Video Keno and Advantage Slot Play, with the Video Keno, you can go low-risk but have the potential for a huge reward. With the advantage slots, most of your plays are going to be going after something small, dollar-wise, but you can still end up hitting a big win.
2.) I tip if I am losing.
3.) Hell yeah! The most recent time I played live Blackjack I lost thirteen hands in a row with one Surrender. There was also one Push in there in which me and the dealer both drew to 21, but other than that, thirteen consecutive losses! Taking the Push out of consideration, such a losing streak (playing BS) is probably about 1 in 8000, something like that, to occur.
4.) I'm usually alone, but like to have company. When I do go, it tends to be at strange hours.
I'm definitely a volatility junkie; can't bring myself to really enjoy bacc or BJ, where you're just sitting there watching the dealer deal, though I will definitely play Switch next time I see it. What a cool game. Would like to like craps or roulette, but don't get the charge out of them the cards bring, don't know why; I can respect that other people do, though. The FireBet, or PFR, are more interesting to me than the base games of either. So I'll never be an AP; don't have the temperment, I guess. But I think my entertainment dollar's very well spent most nights, and sometimes I even make money. Beat that, Golf! lol.... BTW, I do have a set of old McGinty woods and 2 sets of Ping II irons for sale....
Quote: Mission1461.) I'm a pretty low-risk gambler. It doesn't take me very long to stop if I am losing. When I do gamble, it's mainly just because I find it relaxing, so I wouldn't want to be playing any amount that I would actually care about on Table Games. That's one of the benefits of Video Keno and Advantage Slot Play, with the Video Keno, you can go low-risk but have the potential for a huge reward. With the advantage slots, most of your plays are going to be going after something small, dollar-wise, but you can still end up hitting a big win.
2.) I tip if I am losing.
3.) Hell yeah! The most recent time I played live Blackjack I lost thirteen hands in a row with one Surrender. There was also one Push in there in which me and the dealer both drew to 21, but other than that, thirteen consecutive losses! Taking the Push out of consideration, such a losing streak (playing BS) is probably about 1 in 8000, something like that, to occur.
4.) I'm usually alone, but like to have company. When I do go, it tends to be at strange hours.
That dredges up the memory during my most horrific bj run ever (a few months this summer between Vegas and AC) wherein, at the Revel ( I believe this was in a trip report (perhaps EvenBob can remind us)) I lost 30 straight hands
Table 1: Lost first 10 hands and moved
Table 2: Lost first 10 hands and moved
Table 3: Lost first 10 hands and retired to my room in a fit of rage!
Quote: aceofspadesThat dredges up the memory during my most horrific bj run ever (a few months this summer between Vegas and AC) wherein, at the Revel ( I believe this was in a trip report (perhaps EvenBob can remind us)) I lost 30 straight hands
Table 1: Lost first 10 hands and moved
Table 2: Lost first 10 hands and moved
Table 3: Lost first 10 hands and retired to my room in a fit of rage!
Yeah, I remember that trip report, ace. Was one of the first I saw on here.
Quote: beachbumbabsYeah, I remember that trip report, ace. Was one of the first I saw on here.
Sitting here in NY with the snow coming down outside, my dog snoring on the floor nearby…I can only keep my fingers crossed for positive variance when my feet touch ground in Vegas in a couple of days
Quote: aceofspadesSitting here in NY with the snow coming down outside, my dog snoring on the floor nearby…I can only keep my fingers crossed for positive variance when my feet touch ground in Vegas in a couple of days
You're going to Rock it, ace. I expect you to be swimming in free play chips.
Quote: beachbumbabsYou're going to Rock it, ace. I expect you to be swimming in free play chips.
From your lips Babs...
Quote: aceofspadesSitting here in NY with the snow coming down outside, my dog snoring on the floor nearby…I can only keep my fingers crossed for positive variance when my feet touch ground in Vegas in a couple of days
Are you setting me up on purpose? Finger crossing
does not cancel out gold plated needles.
Quote: aceofspadesJUICE baby!!! I talk about this all the time with my casino friends. If we were not at a certain limit table, it wouldn't mean anything. The bet has to mean something to you to lose or it is not worth playing. I could sit at a $5 table for 48 hours straight and not get a thrill but, put me at a black chip table and suddenly I am interested. We all have our set point for where we feel 'involved'.
This.
I used to be a green chip bettor. $10 wouldn't be enough for me to care, and $100 I cared too much. When my daughter went away to college I dropped to $10. Now that she's out I need to get a little bit of graduation debt cleared, and I can get back to greens.
Not sure if you have me blocked, but no matter because I will say this to others and not just you. There are opportunities where yo are not gambling at all, YOU CAN'T LOSE(unless the casino fk's you) you can lock up money. I said this in a prior post. I have played plenty of opportunities like this. I recently found and played a situation like this and played it with a few members from this forum. So its not just me making up crap like some would like to believe. I won't explain what this was, because its very likely this situation will come up again soon.Quote: tournamentkingAnyone who plays a casino game for real money is gambling, whether they think they are playing with or without an edge. I've seen a few on other forums who say because they are ap's they don't gamble. Baloney. You never know if you've going to win or lose any bet, and when you use real money it is only one thing: gambling.
I will give some example of this, On something I doubt will ever come up again. Years ago they had a promotion at Fiesta where they DOUBLED Quenelle Bet's or something like that, it's been years so I don't remember the exact term or combinations. since this is probably one of the few time I bet the horses. you could lock up all the combination and guarantee yourself money.
I have seen Sports bets that had + money on both sides at different books.
Quote: aceofspadesThat dredges up the memory during my most horrific bj run ever (a few months this summer between Vegas and AC) wherein, at the Revel ( I believe this was in a trip report (perhaps EvenBob can remind us)) I lost 30 straight hands
Table 1: Lost first 10 hands and moved
Table 2: Lost first 10 hands and moved
Table 3: Lost first 10 hands and retired to my room in a fit of rage!
That's an incredible losing streak, and you'd have had a good laugh if you were playing an amount of money such that you didn't care about the money at all. Had you been playing red chips, that'd be $150, which is less than two of your bets now. I imagine you can look back at it now and kind of smile, but I'm sure it didn't feel so good then.
Can you imagine how few people have lost thirty in a row, playing perfect BS, at a minimum? The odds against that are astronomical, so that's a really cool story to be able to tell people, and if that hadn't been $3,000, I'd say you should be happy to have such a cool story.
I'll never have the opportunity to lose that many in a row, at least, not in one session. Regardless of what the minimum is, I wouldn't buy in for 30x the minimum, so I'd have to be pretty well ahead before encountering such a losing streak, but if I were pretty well ahead, I'd stop-loss when I got back down to even.
Maybe one of these days I'll spot for you, but not this trip, because I have a full schedule.
Quote: aceofspadesSitting here in NY with the snow coming down outside, my dog snoring on the floor nearby…I can only keep my fingers crossed for positive variance when my feet touch ground in Vegas in a couple of days
Does your place have a fireplace ? if so imagine shutting the world on a snowy night and cuddling with your fiance, with logs burning in the fireplace. MARRY HER before she comes to her senses.
Quote: Mission146That's an incredible losing streak, and you'd have had a good laugh if you were playing an amount of money such that you didn't care about the money at all. Had you been playing red chips, that'd be $150, which is less than two of your bets now. I imagine you can look back at it now and kind of smile, but I'm sure it didn't feel so good then.
Can you imagine how few people have lost thirty in a row, playing perfect BS, at a minimum? The odds against that are astronomical, so that's a really cool story to be able to tell people, and if that hadn't been $3,000, I'd say you should be happy to have such a cool story.
I'll never have the opportunity to lose that many in a row, at least, not in one session. Regardless of what the minimum is, I wouldn't buy in for 30x the minimum, so I'd have to be pretty well ahead before encountering such a losing streak, but if I were pretty well ahead, I'd stop-loss when I got back down to even.
Maybe one of these days I'll spot for you, but not this trip, because I have a full schedule.
I think it ended up being more than 3k as there were splits and doubles involved.
I know you have the nuggets competition on the same day I have the blackjack tournament - positive variance to us both!
Quote: BuzzardDoes your place have a fireplace ? if so imagine shutting the world on a snowy night and cuddling with your fiance, with logs burning in the fireplace. MARRY HER before she comes to her senses.
No fireplace and no fiancé - not even a girlfriend.
Oh great! now we are talking about marriage in 2 threads.Quote: BuzzardAce You need to have a talk with that guy in the mirror !@
Quote: aceofspades( I believe this was in a trip report (perhaps EvenBob can remind us)) I lost 30 straight hands
One of my fave threads. Sniff..
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/blackjack/9810-revel-ac-has-deeeeeeestroyed-me/#post147105
Quote: aceofspadesI think it ended up being more than 3k as there were splits and doubles involved.
I know you have the nuggets competition on the same day I have the blackjack tournament - positive variance to us both!
Absolutely, and please feel welcome to come to Main Street Station if you have the misfortune of being knocked out of the Blackjack tournament early. We are all scheduled to get together there at 6:00p.m.. I'm not sure how long everyone is planning on staying, it'll be a late night for my wife and I, anyway, because Sunday is the full day that she has to do whatever she wants, Saturday being my day. I get the daytime hours Thurs/Fri and she gets the evenings.
There will be some Variance involved, that's for sure. I hope you win a million dollars. I hope I win $100. For all the trash I have been talking, it's going to be very close. Four out of seven days I could definitely succeed, two out of seven days I definitely could not succeed, and the seventh day I'd really have to try to know.
Friday will help, I'm going to eat light and am scheduled for a long hike in the morning. I also plan on walking a few miles right before bed and when I wake up, get myself good and genuinely hungry. Some days you wake up and you're just not at all hungry, regardless of what you did or did not eat the day before. Probably after sedentary days, but Friday will not be a sedentary day.
Quote: BuzzardAce You need to have a talk with that guy in the mirror !@
Haha I am quite satisfied being single Buzz
Quote: EvenBobOne of my fave threads. Sniff..
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/blackjack/9810-revel-ac-has-deeeeeeestroyed-me/#post147105
I assume those are tears of joy Bob
Quote: BuzzardI like how you are thinking Mission. Sounds like a winner to me !
Mission is always a winner to us!
Obviously, but I see the thread has a new post and think its going to be something half way interesting, then I have to skim through it. I have nothing against talking about it. I may do so at some point. I was just thinking it might make a good individual thread on its own.Quote: BuzzardNobody is making you read either one, you know.
Quote: BuzzardI like how you are thinking Mission. Sounds like a winner to me !
Quote: aceofspadesMission is always a winner to us!
Thanks, guys! I won't let anyone down, if I go down, it will be puking, or unconsciousness/death, but it won't be by forfeit!
Quote: Mission146because Sunday is the full day that she has to do whatever she wants
Caveat: Strip clubs, I said, "YOU can go to a strip club if you want to!!!"
Quote: beachbumbabsI like cards, the look and feel of them. I like the little thrill of anticipation (juice) just before I pick up a PGP hand, hoping for that unexpected big bonus or at least the joker to work with. That game is perfect for me; even money main bet, lots of cards, a little sidebet that performs very well, usually a social table. I like being aggressive at UTH, love that the best strategy is to attack with big stacks of chips but that I don't have to do it blindly, love that there's so much unknown until you see the flop/river/dealer hand. I like One for the Money as well, though I've only played it live in testing so far; I like that you're always in to the end and can pull off a surprise win.
I'm definitely a volatility junkie; can't bring myself to really enjoy bacc or BJ, where you're just sitting there watching the dealer deal, though I will definitely play Switch next time I see it. What a cool game. Would like to like craps or roulette, but don't get the charge out of them the cards bring, don't know why; I can respect that other people do, though. The FireBet, or PFR, are more interesting to me than the base games of either. So I'll never be an AP; don't have the temperment, I guess. But I think my entertainment dollar's very well spent most nights, and sometimes I even make money. Beat that, Golf! lol.... BTW, I do have a set of old McGinty woods and 2 sets of Ping II irons for sale....
Before you sell those Pings, research the square groove controversy. Those clubs, especially the wedges, could be worth more than you think. If you contact Ping and give them the serial numbers, they can tell you when they were made. I have three complete sets all made in the late 80s, one of which is beryllium copper. I own a lot of golf clubs, way too many, but my wife and I both use the Pings. By the way, Ping does not make women's clubs. They just make clubs. Everyone is individually fitted.
Quote: djatc+EV situations: Gamble for money
- EV situations: Entertainment or money
Pretty much how I feel. I either know I've got the best of it, or I know I'm giving it up for fun.
Great thread; I skimmed it but will come back later. The real "raison d'être" of this forum if you will.
Quote: Mission1461.) I'm a pretty low-risk gambler. It doesn't take me very long to stop if I am losing. When I do gamble, it's mainly just because I find it relaxing, so I wouldn't want to be playing any amount that I would actually care about on Table Games. That's one of the benefits of Video Keno and Advantage Slot Play, with the Video Keno, you can go low-risk but have the potential for a huge reward. With the advantage slots, most of your plays are going to be going after something small, dollar-wise, but you can still end up hitting a big win.
2.) I tip if I am losing.
3.) Hell yeah! The most recent time I played live Blackjack I lost thirteen hands in a row with one Surrender. There was also one Push in there in which me and the dealer both drew to 21, but other than that, thirteen consecutive losses! Taking the Push out of consideration, such a losing streak (playing BS) is probably about 1 in 8000, something like that, to occur.
4.) I'm usually alone, but like to have company. When I do go, it tends to be at strange hours.
Finally, someone who gets it. I have asked over and over why some players do not tip if they lose and have never gotten an answer. Some of the most ardent tippers have made that claim while disparaging those that never tip. What's the difference? A stiff is a stiff. Does the fact that they lost mean that they didn't get good service or that the dealer was unfriendly? Wait a minute, do they think it was the dealer's fault that they lost?
Conversely, why the heck would anyone tip that nasty undeserving dealer solely because they won? Talk about mixed signals. At least everyone knows where the non tipper stands.
Gambling for the most part is just 50/50. Nobody is going to make a mathematically stupid bet. Everyone knows the math. It's when you have a sucker on the line that you have some action. Somebody miscalculated the odds on this or that. There's action there. Somebody is on "tilt", there's action there. Some rich guy is in town betting everything in sight, there's action there.
Everyone bets because they know the math. It's always calculated in. The fact is, for a guy going to Vegas for a weekend, he can turn $200 into $400 and therefore pay his expenses for the weekend at the town's expense. The rich guy betting everything in site will have a great story to tell win or lose. The probabilities of these guys winning are less than 50/50, but, hey,they had a decent chance, and it's all in fun. They got "action". They had "fun".
A gambler knows the math as well. The difference is "action" to a gambler means an advantage. Something he can't miss out on. If you have a 55% chance of winning the bet, you just cant' miss out on this "action". You have to play. Doesn't mean you'll win, but you can't miss out on the "action". While most people think that a gambler is looking for a thrill, the truth is he's looking for an advantage. Always looking for an edge. Always looking for "Action". That's what the term "Action" means. Now, whether a gambler actually has "action" or just "wants action", that's a different story. But, a gambler ALWAYS wants "Action".
Quote: 1BBBefore you sell those Pings, research the square groove controversy. Those clubs, especially the wedges, could be worth more than you think. If you contact Ping and give them the serial numbers, they can tell you when they were made. I have three complete sets all made in the late 80s, one of which is beryllium copper. I own a lot of golf clubs, way too many, but my wife and I both use the Pings. By the way, Ping does not make women's clubs. They just make clubs. Everyone is individually fitted.
Thanks, 1BB. Both sets of these clubs were purchased in the mid-1970's. I'll check into that. I always thought the woods were pretty cool as well; they came from the early 1960's and have the heavy brass feet inlaid. One set was for my mom, who was 5'10", the other for my dad, who was 6'8", so both have really long shafts (I know they had them custom-fitted).
EDIT: Mom says both sets of Pings were purchased in either 1980 or 1981. So maybe....hmmm
Quote: beachbumbabsI like cards, the look and feel of them. I like the little thrill of anticipation (juice) just before I pick up a PGP hand, hoping for that unexpected big bonus or at least the joker to work with. That game is perfect for me; even money main bet, lots of cards, a little sidebet that performs very well, usually a social table. I like being aggressive at UTH, love that the best strategy is to attack with big stacks of chips but that I don't have to do it blindly, love that there's so much unknown until you see the flop/river/dealer hand. I like One for the Money as well, though I've only played it live in testing so far; I like that you're always in to the end and can pull off a surprise win.
I'm definitely a volatility junkie; can't bring myself to really enjoy bacc or BJ, where you're just sitting there watching the dealer deal, though I will definitely play Switch next time I see it. What a cool game. Would like to like craps or roulette, but don't get the charge out of them the cards bring, don't know why; I can respect that other people do, though. The FireBet, or PFR, are more interesting to me than the base games of either. So I'll never be an AP; don't have the temperment, I guess. But I think my entertainment dollar's very well spent most nights, and sometimes I even make money. Beat that, Golf! lol.... BTW, I do have a set of old McGinty woods and 2 sets of Ping II irons for sale....
Man, I couldn't agree more. I've tried to explain it to people, that feeling that I get when the cards are there face down, as I reach for them, as I pick up the cards, but before I look at them... the feeling of potential. It's why I do it.
It's okay with slots, but the jolts are so small and fast I get immune to them. I've tried sitting next to Mrs and playing the minimum, but invariably I wind up playing the last $75 out of $100 cash in at the max. High dollar slots move too fast for the money involved. Those work best at $10/spin, and counting to 10 between spins. High dollar plays would be Wheel of Fortune machines only, because of the chance for two jolts. I've played the $25 and $100 WoF, but that's just too much of an investment for the time spent in front of the machine.
I never liked golf. That probably cost me a lot professionally, everyone in my business golves. I probably lost at least one company rep job (a key-to-big-bux position) because of that. But now it's skeet shooting, and I could totally get into that. $10000 shotgun? Hell yeah.
Quote: beachbumbabsThanks, 1BB. Both sets of these clubs were purchased in the mid-1970's. I'll check into that. I always thought the woods were pretty cool as well; they came from the early 1960's and have the heavy brass feet inlaid. One set was for my mom, who was 5'10", the other for my dad, who was 6'8", so both have really long shafts (I know they had them custom-fitted).
EDIT: Mom says both sets of Pings were purchased in either 1980 or 1981. So maybe....hmmm
The lie on your dads irons are most likely a few degrees upright unless his arms hang down to his knees, which I doubt. You can tell the lie by the color of the dot on the back of the club.
Quote: 1BBFinally, someone who gets it. I have asked over and over why some players do not tip if they lose and have never gotten an answer. Some of the most ardent tippers have made that claim while disparaging those that never tip. What's the difference? A stiff is a stiff. Does the fact that they lost mean that they didn't get good service or that the dealer was unfriendly? Wait a minute, do they think it was the dealer's fault that they lost?
Conversely, why the heck would anyone tip that nasty undeserving dealer solely because they won? Talk about mixed signals. At least everyone knows where the non tipper stands.
They have been told by others this was the way it was supposed to go in casino games. I remember watching some instructional video on casino games, and the dude kept saying: "Only tip when you win, not when you lose". I tend to flat tip always, but I will tip more when I win.
And in live poker, this is almost always the way it goes! The winner(s) of the pot are the ones supposed to tip. And they still often tip when the dealer screwed up something in the hand! lol Poker has the most brainwashed attitude for tipping. It's pretty great for the dealers as long as they have full tables in the poker room and aren't taking extended "breaks" because of poor game traffic that day.
Quote: 1BBThe lie on your dads irons are most likely a few degrees upright unless his arms hang down to his knees, which I doubt. You can tell the lie by the color of the dot on the back of the club.
The upright lie also corrects for an 'over the top' golf swing, which probably describes 75%+ of amateur golfers.
Zero, nada, nothing. The only thing I feel when I'm
there is occasional impatience. Or if my wife is there,
a lot of impatience. Plan your play and play your plan.
Takes care of the emotional part.
Some day I'm going to take off and leave my wife
there, like Ray did to his wife on Everybody Loves
Raymond. It took him about half an hour to have
the 'uh-oh' moment, what have I done. I'm having
it right now, never mind..
Yesterday a young guy was leaving the casino and
he stopped by the roulette table and said he's had
a feeling about number 22 all day. He put $10 on
22 and yup, it was 22. He jumped about 3 feet in
the air and walked out with $350. That's just so
odd when that happens, I've seen it enough to know
there has to be more to it than chance.
Quote: BuzzardDoes your place have a fireplace ? if so imagine shutting the world on a snowy night and cuddling with your fiance, with logs burning in the fireplace. MARRY HER before she comes to her senses.
Buzz I think you are confusing our two ace-related screen names (not the first time it has happened). I did just get engaged, aceofspades is still living the single life. Which is good because I can vicariously fantasize about those threesomes...
Quote: AcesAndEightsWhich is good because I can vicariously fantasize about those threesomes...
Threesomes you can definitely kiss goodbye once
you get married. Along with your golf friends, and
for many men, the will to live.
