Quote: billryanI'm having dinner on my screened-in porch. It's 6:30 and 71 degrees.
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I'll remind you of this in July when it's 120 and you're hiding inside sitting in front of your air conditioner
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I'll remind you of this in July when it's 120 and you're hiding inside sitting in front of your air conditioner
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I am a lifelong New Englander, so cold and snow mean to me something different than what they mean in the Southwest. For me shoveling snow in shorts and t-shirt has always been normal and probably safer because it may be that the circulatory restriction caused by heavy clothes is what makes men have heart attacks shoveling snow, as much as the exertion. And I would always laugh when I came to Vegas or southern CA and see people walking around in what I would call winter coats when it is 60 degrees.
But after one summer in Vegas (especially this past summer!) that became me. Seriously lost my resistance to cold, and now I wear the heavy jacket in the 50s and 60s. And after a month or so in the 105-110 F it became completely bearable, and with just a hat and occasionally drinking water I can walk the streets all day.
it was very interesting being the experimental subject and seeing how quickly we get acclimated and deacclimated to temperature. There must be a large psychological component. I would always feel bad seeing a young man from the Dominican Republic playing night baseball in April in Chicago or Boston and thinking of how unpleasant that must be for him, but I guess he acclimates to it just as easily as I did.
When I checked the readout a few minutes ago, mid-50's.
I'll be going back towards the cold tomorrow, and likely kvetching about the desolate frozen wasteland.
The navigation system keeps strongly recommending I take the long way around the flooding in Kentucky and northeast Tennessee.
Quote: DieterWas between 25 and 30 degrees of freedom last night.
When I checked the readout a few minutes ago, mid-50's.
I'll be going back towards the cold tomorrow, and likely kvetching about the desolate frozen wasteland.
The navigation system keeps strongly recommending I take the long way around the flooding in Kentucky and northeast Tennessee.
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Just get yourself one of these and don't worry about the flooding.

Quote: DRichQuote: DieterWas between 25 and 30 degrees of freedom last night.
When I checked the readout a few minutes ago, mid-50's.
I'll be going back towards the cold tomorrow, and likely kvetching about the desolate frozen wasteland.
The navigation system keeps strongly recommending I take the long way around the flooding in Kentucky and northeast Tennessee.
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Just get yourself one of these and don't worry about the flooding.
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Given the regularity that my day is reminiscent of The Immigrant Song, an open top seems... "suboptimal".
We come from the land of the ice and snow...
Quote: SOOPOOTeed off at 50 this am. Played lightning fast 9 holes and was only 54 on the 9th green. In the sun it felt great. Needed a jacket when in the shade. Supposed to only hit 72 today. Great dog walking weather.
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" 54 on the 9th green"
So score at 18 was 108?
Quote: SOOPOOTeed off at 50 this am. Played lightning fast 9 holes and was only 54 on the 9th green. In the sun it felt great. Needed a jacket when in the shade. Supposed to only hit 72 today. Great dog walking weather.
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I always preffered having the first tee time so I could get my four hour round in and still have almost the whole day ahead of me.
Quote: rxwineQuote: SOOPOOTeed off at 50 this am. Played lightning fast 9 holes and was only 54 on the 9th green. In the sun it felt great. Needed a jacket when in the shade. Supposed to only hit 72 today. Great dog walking weather.
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" 54 on the 9th green"
So score at 18 was 108?
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This course was just par 3’s. Didn’t keep a real score but probably around 36. 4 pars. 5 ‘others’. I did have a 28 (which should have been a 29 if I didn’t take a Mulligan). A few days ago. Best 9 ever here. My variance in golf is
H. U. G. E.
It's little wonder it is one of the snowbird capitals of America.
Rodeo week starts on Thursday, with a massive parade through downtown.
In a city desperate for affordable housing, the Rodeo Arena sits on fifty acres of prime real estate and is used about a dozen days a year. Two entire square blocks sit vacant except for the week they provide parking for the arena.
Quote: SOOPOOQuote: rxwineQuote: SOOPOOTeed off at 50 this am. Played lightning fast 9 holes and was only 54 on the 9th green. In the sun it felt great. Needed a jacket when in the shade. Supposed to only hit 72 today. Great dog walking weather.
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" 54 on the 9th green"
So score at 18 was 108?
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This course was just par 3’s. Didn’t keep a real score but probably around 36. 4 pars. 5 ‘others’. I did have a 28 (which should have been a 29 if I didn’t take a Mulligan). A few days ago. Best 9 ever here. My variance in golf is
H. U. G. E.
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That is exactly how I played Par 3 courses. Just keep track of Pars and birdies.
I just bought Rain-X windshield washer fluid for winter and it's only good down to -25 F. I seem to remember some other fluids that were good to -40 F. Engine coolant is said to expand and contract with temperature and altitude, so some drivers get a low coolant warning on their dash when it's -20 F. I used to have car batteries die at just zero degree temperatures; they wouldn't last much more than a year, or 5 days without being driven. I have a better AGM car battery now that has some protections from being drawn down by various trickle charges.
Quote: ChumpChangeI lived in cold Minnesota for several years. I would wear long underwear for walks when it was below +15 degrees Fahrenheit. I'd wear pack boots, a mask hat, a face mask that covered my nose and had velcro in the back to hold it on, 3M thermal gloves, a sweater underneath my parka, and wear yellow lens ski goggles for sub-zero weather. I didn't want my eyes or nose or toes to freeze. But that would only be good for like an hour walk in 20 below zero temperatures. 30 below zero was even worse! Cars don't start when it hits -20 degrees. Some cars used engine block heaters and they would be plugged in if the outdoor parking lot had electrical outlets. My car just got a recall notice about the engine block heater. I don't know much about them or if my car even has one; they are optional. They can't fix it until next Spring at the earliest and the recall just came out as a fire hazard. It would cost $600+ to install one at the Dealership, so those $35 ones on Amazon don't include installation. I remember coming home from one casino trip by bus and most of the cars the fellow passengers returned to that were parked on the street did not start up when it was 25 below zero by 6 pm.
I just bought Rain-X windshield washer fluid for winter and it's only good down to -25 F. I seem to remember some other fluids that were good to -40 F. Engine coolant is said to expand and contract with temperature and altitude, so some drivers get a low coolant warning on their dash when it's -20 F. I used to have car batteries die at just zero degree temperatures; they wouldn't last much more than a year, or 5 days without being driven. I have a better AGM car battery now that has some protections from being drawn down by various trickle charges.
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My old Toyota truck didn’t have a block heater so I used to put a trouble light under the hood and then a big blanket over the hood and in the morning it would start right up.
At -30 though it took 20 minutes to warm up.
Apparently, when I dumped fuel antifreeze treatment in on Thursday, I left one of the fuel caps open, and some snow blew in. It took a noticeable bit of extra cranking time to get the engine fired up.
The 15°F temperature also reminds us that Boyle's law is a thing, and the low tire pressure light was working until I topped up the tires.
Quote: DRichIt was 52 this morning here in Florida. I was freezing when I let the dogs out.
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This is what it's doing in my backyard right now


Quote: rxwineTV stations weather posts this.
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Oh sure, that makes it look nice. If they just showed the lows people would understand our peril. It was 66 this morning when I woke up and we don't have a fireplace.
Quote: DRich
Oh sure, that makes it look nice. If they just showed the lows people would understand our peril. It was 66 this morning when I woke up and we don't have a fireplace.
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You should be glad you don't live North of Tampa. People here are sometimes forced to wear shirts,

Washington, near the Columbia river. Around 34°F.
Hoarfrost, not snow.
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Oh sure, that makes it look nice. If they just showed the lows people would understand our peril. It was 66 this morning when I woke up and we don't have a fireplace.
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You should be glad you don't live North of Tampa. People here are sometimes forced to wear shirts,
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I do not want to live any place where the women wear shirts.
Tucson broke its three-day rainfall total, a record from 1887. Lots of local road flooding, and the usually dry riverbeds are cascading, but nothing like the storms in South Florida.
We ended up opening a few windows and enjoying a pleasant breeze from the rain.
I didn't turn on the heat last night.
Quote: DRichI finally turned on my furnace this past weekend. A/C during the day and Heat at night. When the lows drop below 70 outside the heat comes on.
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My house makes so much waste heat I don’t need the furnace until it’s much colder outside.
TV’s. Phone Chargers. Hot water heater. Refrigerator. Coffee maker. Lights galore. Cable boxes. Toaster oven. Oven. Washing machine. Dryer. Dog. People. And lastly…. Turtle heat lamps…. (Don’t ask!).
Quote: SOOPOOQuote: DRichI finally turned on my furnace this past weekend. A/C during the day and Heat at night. When the lows drop below 70 outside the heat comes on.
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My house makes so much waste heat I don’t need the furnace until it’s much colder outside.
TV’s. Phone Chargers. Hot water heater. Refrigerator. Coffee maker. Lights galore. Cable boxes. Toaster oven. Oven. Washing machine. Dryer. Dog. People. And lastly…. Turtle heat lamps…. (Don’t ask!).
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TVs still make a lot of waste heat and set-top boxes for cable (and now, more generically, TV channel provider boxes) are surprisingly power intensive. When the cable business started the designers of set top boxes didn't give a flip about electrical efficiency and it was amazing how much electricity they chewed up -because some functions were on all the time. Eventually, the federal government came down on them but they still are non-trivial users of electricity.
Quote: gordonm888Quote: SOOPOOQuote: DRichI finally turned on my furnace this past weekend. A/C during the day and Heat at night. When the lows drop below 70 outside the heat comes on.
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My house makes so much waste heat I don’t need the furnace until it’s much colder outside.
TV’s. Phone Chargers. Hot water heater. Refrigerator. Coffee maker. Lights galore. Cable boxes. Toaster oven. Oven. Washing machine. Dryer. Dog. People. And lastly…. Turtle heat lamps…. (Don’t ask!).
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TVs still make a lot of waste heat and set-top boxes for cable (and now, more generically, TV channel provider boxes) are surprisingly power intensive. When the cable business started the designers of set top boxes didn't give a flip about electrical efficiency and it was amazing how much electricity they chewed up -because some functions were on all the time. Eventually, the federal government came down on them but they still are non-trivial users of electricity.
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I live alone and I have no appliances. No washer and dryer, no dishwasher. I do not have central air. I have two window air conditioners that are never on at the same time, and they're not even on for very long every day. I have a well pump that comes on exactly twice a week for 25 seconds. I have three small Dorm type refrigerators. And two deep freezers in the basement. And of course I have a furnace. All the light bulbs I have are the energy saving ones. I have no TV. I just have a laptop computer. And my electric bill is still over 200 a month. What the heck is it for people who have all the appliances that I mentioned and they have three kids?
Quote: EvenBobQuote: gordonm888Quote: SOOPOOQuote: DRichI finally turned on my furnace this past weekend. A/C during the day and Heat at night. When the lows drop below 70 outside the heat comes on.
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My house makes so much waste heat I don’t need the furnace until it’s much colder outside.
TV’s. Phone Chargers. Hot water heater. Refrigerator. Coffee maker. Lights galore. Cable boxes. Toaster oven. Oven. Washing machine. Dryer. Dog. People. And lastly…. Turtle heat lamps…. (Don’t ask!).
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TVs still make a lot of waste heat and set-top boxes for cable (and now, more generically, TV channel provider boxes) are surprisingly power intensive. When the cable business started the designers of set top boxes didn't give a flip about electrical efficiency and it was amazing how much electricity they chewed up -because some functions were on all the time. Eventually, the federal government came down on them but they still are non-trivial users of electricity.
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I live alone and I have no appliances. No washer and dryer, no dishwasher. I do not have central air. I have two window air conditioners that are never on at the same time, and they're not even on for very long every day. I have a well pump that comes on exactly twice a week for 25 seconds. I have three small Dorm type refrigerators. And two deep freezers in the basement. And of course I have a furnace. All the light bulbs I have are the energy saving ones. I have no TV. I just have a laptop computer. And my electric bill is still over 200 a month. What the heck is it for people who have all the appliances that I mentioned and they have three kids?
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Family of 5 (although I'm nearly always absent), Central air, two big refrigerators, deep freeze, 3 TV's, electric dryer (2 loads a day), electric stove/oven...
Usually around $350/month, although much less when the aircon & furnace are off in the very pleasant spring and autumn months.
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Oh sure, that makes it look nice. If they just showed the lows people would understand our peril. It was 66 this morning when I woke up and we don't have a fireplace.
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You should be glad you don't live North of Tampa. People here are sometimes forced to wear shirts,
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I do not want to live any place where the women wear shirts.
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Try living in a retirement community.

