Malaru
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March 3rd, 2013 at 6:01:24 AM permalink
Why is it when the dealer has pai gow in poker its a good thing; but when he has pai gow in tiles its a bad thing?

and Im referring to the verbiage, I know what it means and what your saying they have.
"Although men flatter themselves with their great actions, they are not so often the result of a great design as of chance." - Francois De La Rochefoucauld
Ibeatyouraces
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March 3rd, 2013 at 6:09:14 AM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
Malaru
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March 3rd, 2013 at 6:36:00 AM permalink
The only explanation I could come up with as for why patrons would ask for the dealer to have "pai gow" would be that it would be the lowest hand possible. 2-3-4-5-7-8-9 and thus would make all players winners (except very unfortunate few who have to play less then a 7-8 on top)
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FinsRule
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March 3rd, 2013 at 8:11:35 AM permalink
Quote: Malaru

Why is it when the dealer has pai gow in poker its a good thing; but when he has pai gow in tiles its a bad thing?

and Im referring to the verbiage, I know what it means and what your saying they have.



If the dealer has pai gow in his hand in tiles, what is his hand?
SOOPOO
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March 3rd, 2013 at 9:03:13 AM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

If the dealer has pai gow in his hand in tiles, what is his hand?



There seems to be no exact hand..... But 2 - 1 always works for me in the dealer's hand.
sodawater
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March 3rd, 2013 at 11:18:45 AM permalink
I think the reason is, pai gow means "make nine." If the player or dealer, in tiles, has no bo (pair), wong, or gong (named hands), he must try to add up his pips to make 9.

So in pai gow poker, when the players ask for a pai gow, they mean a hand that has no pairs or other ranked hands. Just like in pai gow when the dealer has no named hand.
Malaru
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March 3rd, 2013 at 2:33:53 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

I think the reason is, pai gow means "make nine." If the player or dealer, in tiles, has no bo (pair), wong, or gong (named hands), he must try to add up his pips to make 9.

So in pai gow poker, when the players ask for a pai gow, they mean a hand that has no pairs or other ranked hands. Just like in pai gow when the dealer has no named hand.



This sounds like the best explanation I've heard so far.
"Although men flatter themselves with their great actions, they are not so often the result of a great design as of chance." - Francois De La Rochefoucauld
charliepatrick
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March 4th, 2013 at 2:20:29 AM permalink
Personally I've never heard that term mentioned while playing tiles, but perhaps that's because I don't speak Chinese which is what they usually speak in.
As you say, in cards, the dealer will have a bad hand and hopefully, since they can't make Ace-high, will have an average low hand.
In tiles, if the dealer can't make Hi9 or better, then usually they try to even out the hands to maximise the low hand, and unlike cards could still make something like 8/8 or 7/7.
So sometimes, e.g 1/Wong or even 3/4, you're hoping for a reasonably good high hand with zero and other times, e.g. with 8/9, you're hoping the dealer can't make Hi9.

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