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November 7th, 2024 at 5:26:02 AM permalink
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He died in his early 50s before the show made him a household name.
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November 7th, 2024 at 1:07:32 PM permalink
Remember when Starbucks had electricity?

Heh, I just went in a new Starbucks and noticed, no outlets. I don't usually plug anything in, though I have on occasion. Maybe the drain has been more than they expected. Or maybe people are bringing larger batteries and taking large charges. Or maybe this was just an oddity.
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November 7th, 2024 at 1:22:16 PM permalink
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Remember when Starbucks had electricity?

Heh, I just went in a new Starbucks and noticed, no outlets. I don't usually plug anything in, though I have on occasion. Maybe the drain has been more than they expected. Or maybe people are bringing larger batteries and taking large charges. Or maybe this was just an oddity.
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Maybe 10 years back I remember hearing how SBUX was going to cover outlets at some stores. It was a store by store thing. Some places had too many people making all day "field offices" but it was only certain ones. The rest they said they had no issues so why PO good customers?

SBUX was founded to be a "third place" for people to spend time. That is in the past, they soon might not even have tables.

Sad to see as I like to get some work done at these places.
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November 7th, 2024 at 1:31:12 PM permalink
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SBUX was founded to be a "third place" for people to spend time. That is in the past, they soon might not even have tables.

Sad to see as I like to get some work done at these places.
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I usually conscript a table at a fast food place.
It's often not quiet, but headphones help.
McDonald's seems to be the pickiest about a 30 minute time limit; Arby's seems almost grateful that someone is there.
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November 7th, 2024 at 2:07:23 PM permalink
When I lived in NY, you could always grab Wi-Fi from any McDonald's. Does anyone know if the Wi-Fi works when the store is closed at night?
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November 7th, 2024 at 2:38:34 PM permalink
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SBUX was founded to be a "third place" for people to spend time. That is in the past, they soon might not even have tables.

Sad to see as I like to get some work done at these places.
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I usually conscript a table at a fast food place.
It's often not quiet, but headphones help.
McDonald's seems to be the pickiest about a 30 minute time limit; Arby's seems almost grateful that someone is there.
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Indie coffeehouses seem to like people there. I use them before I use SBUX if possible. Or the local library. When you have to work the field enough you get to learn the places.
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November 7th, 2024 at 4:35:04 PM permalink
I looked it up and the article I read said Starbucks is trying to discourage loitering and encourage the grab and run customer. Apparently people sitting there for three or four hours using their electricity is it making them money anymore.
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November 7th, 2024 at 5:31:06 PM permalink
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I looked it up and the article I read said Starbucks is trying to discourage loitering and encourage the grab and run customer. Apparently people sitting there for three or four hours using their electricity is it making them money anymore.
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Pretty much all QSR places are trying to go all takeout or at least as much as possible. Times have changed.
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November 7th, 2024 at 6:39:58 PM permalink
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SBUX was founded to be a "third place" for people to spend time. That is in the past, they soon might not even have tables.

Sad to see as I like to get some work done at these places.
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I usually conscript a table at a fast food place.
It's often not quiet, but headphones help.
McDonald's seems to be the pickiest about a 30 minute time limit; Arby's seems almost grateful that someone is there.
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Indie coffeehouses seem to like people there. I use them before I use SBUX if possible. Or the local library. When you have to work the field enough you get to learn the places.
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The indie shops in my old neighborhood aren't conducive to this plan. Either the tables are too small, the place is too busy, or there is a general "no wifi, put your devices away and socialize with each other" policy.

Food courts have plenty of room, but they tend to be noisy and lack convenient outlets. Fast food chain locations tend to have outlets available, as the district manager comes in and uses the booth in the corner every other week as an office for paperwork, interviews, and meetings.

Honestly if I need an outlet for more than 45 minutes at a stretch, I'm heading to a library or borrowing someone's conference room.
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November 7th, 2024 at 6:51:23 PM permalink
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SBUX was founded to be a "third place" for people to spend time. That is in the past, they soon might not even have tables.

Sad to see as I like to get some work done at these places.
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I usually conscript a table at a fast food place.
It's often not quiet, but headphones help.
McDonald's seems to be the pickiest about a 30 minute time limit; Arby's seems almost grateful that someone is there.
link to original post



Indie coffeehouses seem to like people there. I use them before I use SBUX if possible. Or the local library. When you have to work the field enough you get to learn the places.
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The indie shops in my old neighborhood aren't conducive to this plan. Either the tables are too small, the place is too busy, or there is a general "no wifi, put your devices away and socialize with each other" policy.

Food courts have plenty of room, but they tend to be noisy and lack convenient outlets. Fast food chain locations tend to have outlets available, as the district manager comes in and uses the booth in the corner every other week as an office for paperwork, interviews, and meetings.

Honestly if I need an outlet for more than 45 minutes at a stretch, I'm heading to a library or borrowing someone's conference room.
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Seems I have had better luck with indie places. Really, they should know that they are a field office for various professions and that is a decent hunk of their business. One town I worked for a bit we made it a point to scat out as the lunch rush came in. Because of that they loved us. People in the town joked about us using it as an office.
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November 7th, 2024 at 7:14:15 PM permalink
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SBUX was founded to be a "third place" for people to spend time. That is in the past, they soon might not even have tables.

Sad to see as I like to get some work done at these places.
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I usually conscript a table at a fast food place.
It's often not quiet, but headphones help.
McDonald's seems to be the pickiest about a 30 minute time limit; Arby's seems almost grateful that someone is there.
link to original post



Indie coffeehouses seem to like people there. I use them before I use SBUX if possible. Or the local library. When you have to work the field enough you get to learn the places.
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The indie shops in my old neighborhood aren't conducive to this plan. Either the tables are too small, the place is too busy, or there is a general "no wifi, put your devices away and socialize with each other" policy.

Food courts have plenty of room, but they tend to be noisy and lack convenient outlets. Fast food chain locations tend to have outlets available, as the district manager comes in and uses the booth in the corner every other week as an office for paperwork, interviews, and meetings.

Honestly if I need an outlet for more than 45 minutes at a stretch, I'm heading to a library or borrowing someone's conference room.
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Seems I have had better luck with indie places. Really, they should know that they are a field office for various professions and that is a decent hunk of their business. One town I worked for a bit we made it a point to scat out as the lunch rush came in. Because of that they loved us. People in the town joked about us using it as an office.
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Oh sure.
It depends on the market. The indie shops around "here" tend to be near campus or the hippie enclave, and tend to be smaller places. The chains tend to be near the business districts and have roomier tables, and more of them.

If they have an open mic night and people dancing with tambourines asking for change out front, I'm not hopeful about setting up camp, even if the free trade vegan carob brownies are... passable.
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November 8th, 2024 at 2:20:14 AM permalink
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Remember when Starbucks had electricity?

Heh, I just went in a new Starbucks and noticed, no outlets. I don't usually plug anything in, though I have on occasion. Maybe the drain has been more than they expected. Or maybe people are bringing larger batteries and taking large charges. Or maybe this was just an oddity.
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At the Atlantic City bus station all of the 110 VAC outlets are sealed off. They told me the reason why is the bums come in to charge their devices, but there are a lot more bums than outlets and they have fights over them.

However I noticed the 208 VAC outlets for the floor machines are still available so I guess they figure if you are smart enough to bring an adapter you are smart enough not to have fights over an outlet.
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November 8th, 2024 at 6:25:05 AM permalink
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Remember when Starbucks had electricity?

Heh, I just went in a new Starbucks and noticed, no outlets. I don't usually plug anything in, though I have on occasion. Maybe the drain has been more than they expected. Or maybe people are bringing larger batteries and taking large charges. Or maybe this was just an oddity.
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At the Atlantic City bus station all of the 110 VAC outlets are sealed off. They told me the reason why is the bums come in to charge their devices, but there are a lot more bums than outlets and they have fights over them.

However I noticed the 208 VAC outlets for the floor machines are still available so I guess they figure if you are smart enough to bring an adapter you are smart enough not to have fights over an outlet.
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Thanks for that.
I currently have an adapter to turn a lightbulb socket into a two prong outlet in my "bag of tricks", apparently I need to add 240v to 120v adapter plugs as well. Any clue if these are the usual "RV" type plugs? (I'm guessing it's NOT 208 volt; that's usually a three phase configuration.)
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November 8th, 2024 at 10:46:00 AM permalink
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he got insulted in front of his girlfriend
it made him mad
he decided to get even
with help of Charles Atlas and for a very reasonable price he got himself a powerful physique
just 15 minutes a day
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I liked the ones where the bully kicks sand into the 99 pound weakling's face

well, I wasn't rooting for the bully, but it told a story I got familiar with, and the good guy wins in the end
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I liked the ones where the bully kicks sand into the 99 pound weakling's face

well, I wasn't rooting for the bully, but it told a story I got familiar with, and the good guy wins in the end
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I liked the ones where the bully kicks sand into the 99 pound weakling's face

well, I wasn't rooting for the bully, but it told a story I got familiar with, and the good guy wins in the end
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this is the sand in the face ad

I chose the other one because it was in color





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November 8th, 2024 at 11:32:39 AM permalink
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I liked the ones where the bully kicks sand into the 99 pound weakling's face

well, I wasn't rooting for the bully, but it told a story I got familiar with, and the good guy wins in the end
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this is the sand in the face ad

I chose the other one because it was in color





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Cutting some of those ads cost the owners hundreds of thousands of dollars. Many were on the back cover or interior of comics like the early issues of Spiderman, Fantastic Four, The Avengers and the like. A comic like FF1 that is worth $60,000 would lose 90% of the value without the coupon.

Each coupon has a unique code so it can be tracked to the book it came out of.
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November 8th, 2024 at 12:13:24 PM permalink
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Remember when Starbucks had electricity?

Heh, I just went in a new Starbucks and noticed, no outlets. I don't usually plug anything in, though I have on occasion. Maybe the drain has been more than they expected. Or maybe people are bringing larger batteries and taking large charges. Or maybe this was just an oddity.
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At the Atlantic City bus station all of the 110 VAC outlets are sealed off. They told me the reason why is the bums come in to charge their devices, but there are a lot more bums than outlets and they have fights over them.

However I noticed the 208 VAC outlets for the floor machines are still available so I guess they figure if you are smart enough to bring an adapter you are smart enough not to have fights over an outlet.
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Thanks for that.
I currently have an adapter to turn a lightbulb socket into a two prong outlet in my "bag of tricks", apparently I need to add 240v to 120v adapter plugs as well. Any clue if these are the usual "RV" type plugs? (I'm guessing it's NOT 208 volt; that's usually a three phase configuration.)
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No that is single phase. 220 VAC like in Europe is rare in the US now, because you can derive both 110 VAC and 208 VAC single phase off the same 3-phase mains in the neighborhood. 3-phase service is usually found only in industrial buildings rather than residential or commercial.

Fortunately most chargers now have global input, 90-277 volts, any frequency including DC. So all you need is an adapter to make the pinouts compatible rather than to convert any voltages. I also like to have one of those light socket adapters in motels. A surprising number of motel outlets do not work because they are being plugged/unplugged several times a day sometimes and they have a limited lifespan when used that way. I guess that is another good reason to not let the public use them, they are going to get the contacts gouged out after so many cycles.
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November 8th, 2024 at 1:21:41 PM permalink
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I also like to have one of those light socket adapters in motels. A surprising number of motel outlets do not work because they are being plugged/unplugged several times a day sometimes and they have a limited lifespan when used that way. I guess that is another good reason to not let the public use them, they are going to get the contacts gouged out after so many cycles.
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This brings up one of the odd tales from tech support. One of our office guys (back in my tech support days) had a weird set of intermittent problems.
It turned out to be a worn out outlet. It was fine sometimes, but then disconnected sometimes. Under load, there was enough thermal expansion in the outlet that the contacts didn't contact. Then it would cool down, start working again, and then warm up.
Hospital grade outlet devices are spendy, but they definitely hold up to abuse. I can understand why a motel might not want to pony up for the good stuff.
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November 17th, 2024 at 5:23:07 AM permalink
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my post re the Gladiator figure made me remember the original great Gladiator move "Spartacus" with Kirk Douglas that won many awards

when I saw it I was just a little kid and I loved it





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"Stab to the right" I think that was a Roman tactic. When two opposing armies meet, guys on one side fight the guy in front of him, but the other side bypasses the shield stabbing the guy to his right. Or maybe it was to his left. It's just like football plays, but with swords and spears. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't.
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November 17th, 2024 at 7:40:46 AM permalink
I am Sparticus!

It's been years since I watched the Kirk Douglas movie, but there was a great Sparticus series on cable a decade ago. Sadly, the lead actor died while making the series, and his substitute never quite clicked,in my opinion.
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November 17th, 2024 at 8:53:16 AM permalink
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yt offers a good portion of the movie free of charge
this is another great scene:

Spartacus says - "I've never had a woman" and then when the Romans want to watch "I am not an animal______!"

I had forgotten how great this movie was

below the vid is an ancient painting of Gladiators
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Doesn't mean much to me, but maybe computer wonks will appreciate.

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Gene Buckle recently unearthed a 86-DOS version 0.1-C floppy disk, reportedly the operating system’s oldest known, still accessible iteration—one that predates even the earliest public version of MS-DOS.

[Related: Yes, the Pentagon still uses floppy disks for nuclear launches.]

Contrary to what many may think, MS-DOS wasn’t actually the creation of Microsoft—the then-newcomers licensed the disk system from a company called Seattle Computer Products (SCP) in 1981. Before Microsoft’s “MS-DOS” rebrand, SCP first called their OS “Quick’n’Dirty Operating System” (QDOS), but soon swapped over to the more marketable 86-DOS name. It’s this earliest version, stored across 9 files, that Buckle found late last month while archiving a backlog of over 400 8-inch floppy disks gifted to him a few years ago.

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Cruising by the border, listening to Satellite when the DJ did a block of 1960s anti-war songs- Sky Pilot, Christmas in the Jungle( heartbreaking song about a gi who is killed while writing this letter), and Little Becky's Christmas list( Becky asks Santa to bring her dead big brother home from Vietnam).
Thinking back, I can remember Christmas 1964 and Christmas 1967 when my Dad was there to celebrate, but 1966 and 1968 are blurred.
I can only imagine sitting in traffic, listening to these songs and knowing your loved ones were in peril.
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Cruising by the border, listening to Satellite when the DJ did a block of 1960s anti-war songs- Sky Pilot, Christmas in the Jungle( heartbreaking song about a gi who is killed while writing this letter), and Little Becky's Christmas list( Becky asks Santa to bring her dead big brother home from Vietnam).
Thinking back, I can remember Christmas 1964 and Christmas 1967 when my Dad was there to celebrate, but 1966 and 1968 are blurred.
I can only imagine sitting in traffic, listening to these songs and knowing your loved ones were in peril.
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I know exactly where I was on 12/25/66.

I was assigned to the 1st Air Cav. When I reported to the Company, I was told that the Company was out in the Field (Jungle) and that they were coming back to base camp in a few days. Instead of sending me out to the field I was put on guard duty and KP until the company returned.

The Company returned to base camp camp on 12/24/66. I was assigned to the 4th platoon. The next day on 12/25/66 after breakfast and morning formation, we were told that we were moving out again. The Company was at Base Camp for less than 24 hours and they were moving out again. MERRY CHRISTMAS.

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I left VN on 12/05/67.

As I have done since my return, I will be going out with my wife to celebrate my safe return from VN.
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Once upon a time, "Walmart Radio" (their PA system music) wouldn't have played Beastie Boys.

Admittedly one of their tamer pieces, but it is a nice change from the endless holiday music.
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Cruising by the border, listening to Satellite when the DJ did a block of 1960s anti-war songs- Sky Pilot, Christmas in the Jungle( heartbreaking song about a gi who is killed while writing this letter), and Little Becky's Christmas list( Becky asks Santa to bring her dead big brother home from Vietnam).
Thinking back, I can remember Christmas 1964 and Christmas 1967 when my Dad was there to celebrate, but 1966 and 1968 are blurred.
I can only imagine sitting in traffic, listening to these songs and knowing your loved ones were in peril.
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I know exactly where I was on 12/25/66.

I was assigned to the 1st Air Cav. When I reported to the Company, I was told that the Company was out in the Field (Jungle) and that they were coming back to base camp in a few days. Instead of sending me out to the field I was put on guard duty and KP until the company returned.

The Company returned to base camp camp on 12/24/66. I was assigned to the 4th platoon. The next day on 12/25/66 after breakfast and morning formation, we were told that we were moving out again. The Company was at Base Camp for less than 24 hours and they were moving out again. MERRY CHRISTMAS.

****************************************

I left VN on 12/05/67.

As I have done since my return, I will be going out with my wife to celebrate my safe return from VN.
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My Father was an advisor there in the early 1960s and stayed there most of 1966 and 67. I was too young to understand what was going on.
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December 3rd, 2024 at 6:40:14 PM permalink
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Cruising by the border, listening to Satellite when the DJ did a block of 1960s anti-war songs- Sky Pilot, Christmas in the Jungle( heartbreaking song about a gi who is killed while writing this letter), and Little Becky's Christmas list( Becky asks Santa to bring her dead big brother home from Vietnam).
Thinking back, I can remember Christmas 1964 and Christmas 1967 when my Dad was there to celebrate, but 1966 and 1968 are blurred.
I can only imagine sitting in traffic, listening to these songs and knowing your loved ones were in peril.
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I know exactly where I was on 12/25/66.

I was assigned to the 1st Air Cav. When I reported to the Company, I was told that the Company was out in the Field (Jungle) and that they were coming back to base camp in a few days. Instead of sending me out to the field I was put on guard duty and KP until the company returned.

The Company returned to base camp camp on 12/24/66. I was assigned to the 4th platoon. The next day on 12/25/66 after breakfast and morning formation, we were told that we were moving out again. The Company was at Base Camp for less than 24 hours and they were moving out again. MERRY CHRISTMAS.

****************************************

I left VN on 12/05/67.

As I have done since my return, I will be going out with my wife to celebrate my safe return from VN.
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Good grief how old are you. I'm 75 and I was a senior in high school in 1967.
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December 3rd, 2024 at 7:58:09 PM permalink
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Cruising by the border, listening to Satellite when the DJ did a block of 1960s anti-war songs- Sky Pilot, Christmas in the Jungle( heartbreaking song about a gi who is killed while writing this letter), and Little Becky's Christmas list( Becky asks Santa to bring her dead big brother home from Vietnam).
Thinking back, I can remember Christmas 1964 and Christmas 1967 when my Dad was there to celebrate, but 1966 and 1968 are blurred.
I can only imagine sitting in traffic, listening to these songs and knowing your loved ones were in peril.
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I know exactly where I was on 12/25/66.

I was assigned to the 1st Air Cav. When I reported to the Company, I was told that the Company was out in the Field (Jungle) and that they were coming back to base camp in a few days. Instead of sending me out to the field I was put on guard duty and KP until the company returned.

The Company returned to base camp camp on 12/24/66. I was assigned to the 4th platoon. The next day on 12/25/66 after breakfast and morning formation, we were told that we were moving out again. The Company was at Base Camp for less than 24 hours and they were moving out again. MERRY CHRISTMAS.

****************************************

I left VN on 12/05/67.

As I have done since my return, I will be going out with my wife to celebrate my safe return from VN.
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Thank you for your service. I’m guessing 80.
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December 4th, 2024 at 5:45:24 AM permalink
Remember the James Garner/Mariette Hartley Polaroid commercials of the 70s/80s? They had such chemistry people thought they were actually married to each other. Go reminded of these when I saw some Polaroid cameras and film at WMT this week. Even in the digital age there are times you need the picture in your hand NOW. When I had to see clients for potential damage claims or bid a job back in the late-1990s I had my Polaroid camera.


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December 4th, 2024 at 6:53:04 AM permalink
In 1981, I was in an Honor Guard for the Memorial Day Ceremony at Calverton Nation Cemetary. Among the featured participants were the last two Spanish-American War veterans on Long Island and two original Buffalo Soldiers who were still in the Army Reserves.
The last Living Buffalo Soldier died last week.
This year, we have difficulty finding a World War Two vet capable of attending our Christmas party.
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December 4th, 2024 at 6:54:38 AM permalink
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Cruising by the border, listening to Satellite when the DJ did a block of 1960s anti-war songs- Sky Pilot, Christmas in the Jungle( heartbreaking song about a gi who is killed while writing this letter), and Little Becky's Christmas list( Becky asks Santa to bring her dead big brother home from Vietnam).
Thinking back, I can remember Christmas 1964 and Christmas 1967 when my Dad was there to celebrate, but 1966 and 1968 are blurred.
I can only imagine sitting in traffic, listening to these songs and knowing your loved ones were in peril.
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I know exactly where I was on 12/25/66.

I was assigned to the 1st Air Cav. When I reported to the Company, I was told that the Company was out in the Field (Jungle) and that they were coming back to base camp in a few days. Instead of sending me out to the field I was put on guard duty and KP until the company returned.

The Company returned to base camp camp on 12/24/66. I was assigned to the 4th platoon. The next day on 12/25/66 after breakfast and morning formation, we were told that we were moving out again. The Company was at Base Camp for less than 24 hours and they were moving out again. MERRY CHRISTMAS.

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I left VN on 12/05/67.

As I have done since my return, I will be going out with my wife to celebrate my safe return from VN.
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Thank you for your service. I’m guessing 80.
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I was discharged out of Jacksonville Naval Hospital at the end of my tour around this time of year 1967.

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December 4th, 2024 at 9:13:19 AM permalink
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Cruising by the border, listening to Satellite when the DJ did a block of 1960s anti-war songs- Sky Pilot, Christmas in the Jungle( heartbreaking song about a gi who is killed while writing this letter), and Little Becky's Christmas list( Becky asks Santa to bring her dead big brother home from Vietnam).
Thinking back, I can remember Christmas 1964 and Christmas 1967 when my Dad was there to celebrate, but 1966 and 1968 are blurred.
I can only imagine sitting in traffic, listening to these songs and knowing your loved ones were in peril.
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I know exactly where I was on 12/25/66.

I was assigned to the 1st Air Cav. When I reported to the Company, I was told that the Company was out in the Field (Jungle) and that they were coming back to base camp in a few days. Instead of sending me out to the field I was put on guard duty and KP until the company returned.

The Company returned to base camp camp on 12/24/66. I was assigned to the 4th platoon. The next day on 12/25/66 after breakfast and morning formation, we were told that we were moving out again. The Company was at Base Camp for less than 24 hours and they were moving out again. MERRY CHRISTMAS.

****************************************

I left VN on 12/05/67.

As I have done since my return, I will be going out with my wife to celebrate my safe return from VN.
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Thank you for your service. I’m guessing 80.
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I was discharged out of Jacksonville Naval Hospital at the end of my tour around this time of year 1967.

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Thank you for your service as well
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December 18th, 2024 at 9:10:31 AM permalink
Remember when certain new stores opening in your area was a huge thing? In the 70s a McDonald's coming local might be a big thing. In the 80s to even early 90s you could not wait for WMT to come. Or even back then a fill mall might open and jam traffic for days to weeks. What happened was suburbs outran businesses. Housing but not commercial at first. Then when the right store opened everyone rushed in.

Today you sometimes see a new place you want to try. Raising Canes came to my town and I did want to try it so I did. But not the big thing as it was back then.
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December 18th, 2024 at 10:14:01 AM permalink
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Remember when certain new stores opening in your area was a huge thing? In the 70s a McDonald's coming local might be a big thing. In the 80s to even early 90s you could not wait for WMT to come. Or even back then a fill mall might open and jam traffic for days to weeks. What happened was suburbs outran businesses. Housing but not commercial at first. Then when the right store opened everyone rushed in.

Today you sometimes see a new place you want to try. Raising Canes came to my town and I did want to try it so I did. But not the big thing as it was back then.
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Exactly. In the old days we had so many fewer choices for everything. I remember when McDonalds was the only fast food in our town.
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December 18th, 2024 at 10:54:34 AM permalink
A McDonalds was huge on Long Island for the first two or three dozen. It was a huge deal when McDonalds came to Mineola. It caused such a traffic jam that the village put in restrictions against any fast food places on Jericho Turnpike. The result was a cluster of fast food spots on our borders but McDonalds was the only game in town.
When Sonic first came to Long Island, the police were needed to handle traffic, and a guy trying to cut the line was killed when his car was rear-ended by traffic.
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December 18th, 2024 at 11:19:57 AM permalink
McDonald's came to our city in 1963 and it was still a big deal when I got my first car in 1965. A dollar bill would get you four hamburgers and four fries and that was a lot of food even for a 17 year old. Anytime we had any spare money we would go to McDonald's.
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December 18th, 2024 at 11:24:08 AM permalink
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A McDonalds was huge on Long Island for the first two or three dozen. It was a huge deal when McDonalds came to Mineola. It caused such a traffic jam that the village put in restrictions against any fast food places on Jericho Turnpike. The result was a cluster of fast food spots on our borders but McDonalds was the only game in town.
When Sonic first came to Long Island, the police were needed to handle traffic, and a guy trying to cut the line was killed when his car was rear-ended by traffic.
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So, why was Long Island the only place where they did not put mustard on the hamburgers?
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December 18th, 2024 at 1:16:43 PM permalink
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A McDonalds was huge on Long Island for the first two or three dozen. It was a huge deal when McDonalds came to Mineola. It caused such a traffic jam that the village put in restrictions against any fast food places on Jericho Turnpike. The result was a cluster of fast food spots on our borders but McDonalds was the only game in town.
When Sonic first came to Long Island, the police were needed to handle traffic, and a guy trying to cut the line was killed when his car was rear-ended by traffic.
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So, why was Long Island the only place where they did not put mustard on the hamburgers?
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I think it's more legend than fact, but the story is fun.

The first franchiser in the NYC/LI area decided he could save thousands of dollars in product and labor costs if they didn't serve mustard and supposedly produced a made-up study group to demonstrate it. It took a few years but I'm used to it.
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December 18th, 2024 at 2:14:14 PM permalink
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A McDonalds was huge on Long Island for the first two or three dozen. It was a huge deal when McDonalds came to Mineola. It caused such a traffic jam that the village put in restrictions against any fast food places on Jericho Turnpike. The result was a cluster of fast food spots on our borders but McDonalds was the only game in town.
When Sonic first came to Long Island, the police were needed to handle traffic, and a guy trying to cut the line was killed when his car was rear-ended by traffic.
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So, why was Long Island the only place where they did not put mustard on the hamburgers?
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I think it's more legend than fact, but the story is fun.

The first franchiser in the NYC/LI area decided he could save thousands of dollars in product and labor costs if they didn't serve mustard and supposedly produced a made-up study group to demonstrate it. It took a few years but I'm used to it.
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I just know that I was told about it my first time on LI and when in Albany a woman I had working for me was from there and her kids wouldn't eat burgers with it when they moved upstate. The story makes some kind of sense as MCD has had some weird things like PA Turnpike locations being the last to have Heinz ketchup. That one is a story.

Tomato shortage so Heinz shorted everyone fairly equal. MCD said, "We're McDonald's so you had better send us the product." Heinz said, "We're Heinz, you get what we can ship." It took years but eventually all MCD had inferior ketchup.
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Almost every New Yorker that I know likes spicy brown mustard, not the yellow crap.
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December 19th, 2024 at 4:23:06 AM permalink
There once was a hamburger chain called Luv's in Floriday. They were up to 13 stores when McDonald's bought them out. Made me wonder how many similar acquisitions were made over time.
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December 19th, 2024 at 6:44:28 AM permalink
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The first franchiser in the NYC/LI area decided he could save thousands of dollars in product and labor costs if they didn't serve mustard and supposedly produced a made-up study group to demonstrate it. It took a few years but I'm used to it.
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I'll never get used to not being able to get mustard in a MikkyD

this was a real misfit in the South, yet people went along with it. I couldn't believe it
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December 20th, 2024 at 2:09:50 PM permalink
Remember when you were a kid and right around now you would be counting the hours until Christmas? In Catholic school you usually started counting days when Advent started, which could be as early as the last Sunday in November. Which was kind of a fun thing since the count started earlier. By the last week you counted hours. Then you got to Christmas Eve Eve, which later became Festivus. That was the big thing as school might only have been a half day and you didn't do much of anything.

Then you get old and it is not a big deal at all. That week after Christmas can be nothing special to just useless killing time depending on where you work and how your business works.
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December 20th, 2024 at 4:55:24 PM permalink
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Then you get old and it is not a big deal at all. That week after Christmas can be nothing special to just useless killing time depending on where you work and how your business works.



No holidays interest me anymore. I loved Christmas with little kids because they would get so excited opening presents. It is just not the same with the grandkids.
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December 20th, 2024 at 4:59:01 PM permalink
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Remember when you were a kid and right around now you would be counting the hours until Christmas? In Catholic school you usually started counting days when Advent started, which could be as early as the last Sunday in November. Which was kind of a fun thing since the count started earlier. By the last week you counted hours. Then you got to Christmas Eve Eve, which later became Festivus. That was the big thing as school might only have been a half day and you didn't do much of anything.

Then you get old and it is not a big deal at all. That week after Christmas can be nothing special to just useless killing time depending on where you work and how your business works.
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You get out of Christmas what you put into Christmas. Make it exciting. Adopt a family of someone you know is struggling. Help make a wish come true. Make it magical again. Give a homeless person a warm hat and gloves.
You still have the Christmas magic in you. You need to let it out.
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December 20th, 2024 at 5:47:06 PM permalink
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Remember when you were a kid and right around now you would be counting the hours until Christmas? In Catholic school you usually started counting days when Advent started, which could be as early as the last Sunday in November. Which was kind of a fun thing since the count started earlier. By the last week you counted hours. Then you got to Christmas Eve Eve, which later became Festivus. That was the big thing as school might only have been a half day and you didn't do much of anything.

Then you get old and it is not a big deal at all. That week after Christmas can be nothing special to just useless killing time depending on where you work and how your business works.
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You get out of Christmas what you put into Christmas. Make it exciting. Adopt a family of someone you know is struggling. Help make a wish come true. Make it magical again. Give a homeless person a warm hat and gloves.
You still have the Christmas magic in you. You need to let it out.
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Send me some warm gloves. The high here tomorrow is 66 and I just filled the pool. Hopefully can swim on Christmas day.
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