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Quote: DieterEvenBob, do you have a link to that video?
3 foot tall tubes sound like transmitter power tubes.
They would be highly inefficient for computation. (Bigger tubes eat more power.)
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I'm sure it was the Eniac built in 1943 which had 18,000 vacuum tubes. I'm probably remembering the size they were more like 12 to 15in but there were shopping carts because they were big and there were so many of them that had to be changed every day. I just read that Google has a quantum computer that is 47 years faster than the largest supercomputer in the world in Kentucky. There are certain calculations that would take the supercomputer 47 years to solve and the new quantum computer does it in 6 seconds. This is frightening stuff, you talk about AI out of control in the future we have no idea what's coming.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: DieterEvenBob, do you have a link to that video?
3 foot tall tubes sound like transmitter power tubes.
They would be highly inefficient for computation. (Bigger tubes eat more power.)
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I'm sure it was the Eniac built in 1943 which had 18,000 vacuum tubes. I'm probably remembering the size they were more like 12 to 15in but there were shopping carts because they were big and there were so many of them that had to be changed every day. I just read that Google has a quantum computer that is 47 years faster than the largest supercomputer in the world in Kentucky. There are certain calculations that would take the supercomputer 47 years to solve and the new quantum computer does it in 6 seconds. This is frightening stuff, you talk about AI out of control in the future we have no idea what's coming.
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A book I read a while back had a commentary on advancing technology, which I will paraphrase.
"How strong do you want the encryption?"
"I want it unbreakable until humanity stops being evil."
(Cryptonomicon. I'm sure Neal Stephenson phrased it more eloquently.)
there's already posts about this shoe - I linked them - but I found this really cool ancient ad I wanted to post
Chucks (Converse All Stars) have been around since 1917 - and they're still going strong
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/10456-remember-when/58/#post862997
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a/c was not widely prevalent in the U.S. as late as the late 50s
people sweltered - I struggled with asthma until we got it - Doctors orders
it wasn't until the late 60s that the majority of homes and businesses had a/c
movie theaters had it earlier than other businesses
and proudly advertised it on their marquees
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a/c was not widely prevalent in the U.S. as late as the late 50s
people sweltered - I struggled with asthma until we got it - Doctors orders
it wasn't until the late 60s that the majority of homes and businesses had a/c
I'd say the majority of homes did not have it until the late 80s. You might have had a window unit for the bedroom, but if you had central air in the 70s you were considered rich.
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: lilredrooster.
a/c was not widely prevalent in the U.S. as late as the late 50s
people sweltered - I struggled with asthma until we got it - Doctors orders
it wasn't until the late 60s that the majority of homes and businesses had a/c
I'd say the majority of homes did not have it until the late 80s. You might have had a window unit for the bedroom, but if you had central air in the 70s you were considered rich.
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I remember when the window units couldn't keep up during the peak of summer, we'd go see a movie in the theater - matinees at the second run cinema, usually.
I think a lot of the second run theaters are now closed, between the pressures of home video libraries, streaming, and the time of great public health concern.
Quote: lilredrooster.
a/c was not widely prevalent in the U.S. as late as the late 50s
people sweltered - I struggled with asthma until we got it - Doctors orders
it wasn't until the late 60s that the majority of homes and businesses had a/c
movie theaters had it earlier than other businesses
and proudly advertised it on their marquees
.
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Movie theaters were the first to have air conditioning in the 1930s and it saved the movie industry. In the 30s and 40s 90% of Americans saw at least one movie a week and a lot of them saw more than that. When the theaters got air conditioning they were packed all summer long sometimes 24 hours a day in the big cities.
in h.s. going to the movies with a date
and the big question was -
how far would she let you go - and how far would you be willing to go in a public place_______________{-:)
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Quote: DieterQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: lilredrooster.
a/c was not widely prevalent in the U.S. as late as the late 50s
people sweltered - I struggled with asthma until we got it - Doctors orders
it wasn't until the late 60s that the majority of homes and businesses had a/c
I'd say the majority of homes did not have it until the late 80s. You might have had a window unit for the bedroom, but if you had central air in the 70s you were considered rich.
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I remember when the window units couldn't keep up during the peak of summer, we'd go see a movie in the theater - matinees at the second run cinema, usually.
I think a lot of the second run theaters are now closed, between the pressures of home video libraries, streaming, and the time of great public health concern.
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Usually my window unit was enough, Except in Phoenix the central air went out and inside probably hit 120F. I dragged my window unit out of storage. Took all day to get oit to tolerable. Funny thing is roommates GF saw me carrying it in and she had no idea what it was!
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: DieterQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: lilredrooster.
a/c was not widely prevalent in the U.S. as late as the late 50s
people sweltered - I struggled with asthma until we got it - Doctors orders
it wasn't until the late 60s that the majority of homes and businesses had a/c
I'd say the majority of homes did not have it until the late 80s. You might have had a window unit for the bedroom, but if you had central air in the 70s you were considered rich.
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I remember when the window units couldn't keep up during the peak of summer, we'd go see a movie in the theater - matinees at the second run cinema, usually.
I think a lot of the second run theaters are now closed, between the pressures of home video libraries, streaming, and the time of great public health concern.
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Usually my window unit was enough, Except in Phoenix the central air went out and inside probably hit 120F. I dragged my window unit out of storage. Took all day to get oit to tolerable. Funny thing is roommates GF saw me carrying it in and she had no idea what it was!
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The mid50s movie with Marilyn Monroe called The Seven Year Itch featured an apartment that had an air conditioner and it was a really big deal because they cost thousands of dollars. The air conditioner was actually a main character in the movie.
Quote: EvenBobMy wash machine has been broken for a month I've been too busy to get it fixed so I went to a laundromat today for the first time in 30 years and oh my God, I had no idea what I was doing. I had to get people to show me how to operate the machines. They are all front loaders now and they hold different amounts of clothes. The biggest one they had was 80 lb of laundry for $15. They had 40 60 and 80 lb washers and I could do all my laundry in one washer. The whole process from beginning to end took about an hour and I might not ever get my washer fixed not if I can get all my laundry for an entire month done in an hour.
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Did you take it home wet and put it in your dryer?
Quote: rxwineQuote: EvenBobMy wash machine has been broken for a month I've been too busy to get it fixed so I went to a laundromat today for the first time in 30 years and oh my God, I had no idea what I was doing. I had to get people to show me how to operate the machines. They are all front loaders now and they hold different amounts of clothes. The biggest one they had was 80 lb of laundry for $15. They had 40 60 and 80 lb washers and I could do all my laundry in one washer. The whole process from beginning to end took about an hour and I might not ever get my washer fixed not if I can get all my laundry for an entire month done in an hour.
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Did you take it home wet and put it in your dryer?
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Nope they had gigantic dryers there all different sizes I put all my clothes in one dryer and it was done in 20 minutes. I might be hooked. They had one dryer that held 75 lb of clothes, I used one that held 40. And everything operated on an app you downloaded into your phone and a deducted from your debit card. Otherwise on the big machine you have to stand there feeding 55 quarters into it. There was a lot of people in there who are my age which I found quite surprising. Usually older people have washers and dryers or maybe they just find that it's convenient too.
Quote: EvenBobMy wash machine has been broken for a month I've been too busy to get it fixed so I went to a laundromat today for the first time in 30 years and oh my God, I had no idea what I was doing. I had to get people to show me how to operate the machines. They are all front loaders now and they hold different amounts of clothes. The biggest one they had was 80 lb of laundry for $15. They had 40 60 and 80 lb washers and I could do all my laundry in one washer. The whole process from beginning to end took about an hour and I might not ever get my washer fixed not if I can get all my laundry for an entire month done in an hour.
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I agree, laundromats are great. The fact that I can do seven loads in about the same time it takes me to do one load is awesome.
Quote: DRichQuote: EvenBobMy wash machine has been broken for a month I've been too busy to get it fixed so I went to a laundromat today for the first time in 30 years and oh my God, I had no idea what I was doing. I had to get people to show me how to operate the machines. They are all front loaders now and they hold different amounts of clothes. The biggest one they had was 80 lb of laundry for $15. They had 40 60 and 80 lb washers and I could do all my laundry in one washer. The whole process from beginning to end took about an hour and I might not ever get my washer fixed not if I can get all my laundry for an entire month done in an hour.
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I agree, laundromats are great. The fact that I can do seven loads in about the same time it takes me to do one load is awesome.
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The thought of folding seven loads at once negates any potential time savings. These days my wardrobe is lean and mean. I recently bought ten t-shirts and threw away all my old ones. One small load weekly works great.
I had a suit closet when I lived in NY, and now I can live out of one suitcase.
In my travels, I've come across some great laundromats, but I've also come across more than a few shady ones.
Quote: DRichQuote: EvenBobMy wash machine has been broken for a month I've been too busy to get it fixed so I went to a laundromat today for the first time in 30 years and oh my God, I had no idea what I was doing. I had to get people to show me how to operate the machines. They are all front loaders now and they hold different amounts of clothes. The biggest one they had was 80 lb of laundry for $15. They had 40 60 and 80 lb washers and I could do all my laundry in one washer. The whole process from beginning to end took about an hour and I might not ever get my washer fixed not if I can get all my laundry for an entire month done in an hour.
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I agree, laundromats are great. The fact that I can do seven loads in about the same time it takes me to do one load is awesome.
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I have a 20-year-old top loading Kenmore washer and it would have taken me four or five loads to do the laundry I did today in one load. It's like a feeling of power being able to wash that many clothes at once and you're done with it. As far as folding clothes, people still do that? I live alone all my clean underwear gets put in the drawer unfolded because I'm the only one that ever sees it why do I care and my shirts get hung in the closet. I fold the towels but how often do you wash your towels. I don't change my sheets as often as I should and I felt bad about it until I read that in England they only change the sheets about twice a year. LOL
All the laundromats I've been to in the last few years have lousy air conditioning - it's not efficient to pay to heat the air in the dryers, then pay again to cool it down.
The tables are usually convenient for folding (yes, I do). The downside is when someone decides to do all their laundry in a dozen machines at once, you may have to wait your turn.
I remember that in my old neighborhood, the laundromat next door to a pizza parlor (with an excellent cocktail menu) was extremely popular. It was very common to start the wash, get some food and beverage, go back to switch the load to the dryer, get another drink, settle the tab, and get to folding.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: DRichQuote: EvenBobMy wash machine has been broken for a month I've been too busy to get it fixed so I went to a laundromat today for the first time in 30 years and oh my God, I had no idea what I was doing. I had to get people to show me how to operate the machines. They are all front loaders now and they hold different amounts of clothes. The biggest one they had was 80 lb of laundry for $15. They had 40 60 and 80 lb washers and I could do all my laundry in one washer. The whole process from beginning to end took about an hour and I might not ever get my washer fixed not if I can get all my laundry for an entire month done in an hour.
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I agree, laundromats are great. The fact that I can do seven loads in about the same time it takes me to do one load is awesome.
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I have a 20-year-old top loading Kenmore washer and it would have taken me four or five loads to do the laundry I did today in one load. It's like a feeling of power being able to wash that many clothes at once and you're done with it. As far as folding clothes, people still do that? I live alone all my clean underwear gets put in the drawer unfolded because I'm the only one that ever sees it why do I care and my shirts get hung in the closet. I fold the towels but how often do you wash your towels. I don't change my sheets as often as I should and I felt bad about it until I read that in England they only change the sheets about twice a year. LOL
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Four or five loads? How many people live with you? I get mine done in one load. I hated having to use the laundromat.
As to the machines, there was push for front loaders for some reason starting about 20 years ago. I'll keep my top loader thanks much.
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As to the machines, there was push for front loaders for some reason starting about 20 years ago. I'll keep my top loader thanks much.
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I believe the geometry of a front loader allows fully saturating the material to be cleaned with less water than a top-load design.
Quote: DieterQuote: AZDuffman
As to the machines, there was push for front loaders for some reason starting about 20 years ago. I'll keep my top loader thanks much.
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I believe the geometry of a front loader allows fully saturating the material to be cleaned with less water than a top-load design.
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Might be. I remember in college reading how detergent in the USA and Germany had to be different because the Germans used about half the water but way, way hotter. Meanwhile Americans needed to see suds even if they mean little.
That being said, I will likely always prefer the top-load I have always used. Easier to load and unload.
Quote: DieterLaundromats are great for large items, like blankets.
All the laundromats I've been to in the last few years have lousy air conditioning - it's not efficient to pay to heat the air in the dryers, then pay again to cool it down.
The tables are usually convenient for folding (yes, I do). The downside is when someone decides to do all their laundry in a dozen machines at once, you may have to wait your turn.
I remember that in my old neighborhood, the laundromat next door to a pizza parlor (with an excellent cocktail menu) was extremely popular. It was very common to start the wash, get some food and beverage, go back to switch the load to the dryer, get another drink, settle the tab, and get to folding.
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Anytime Monday through Thursday before noon is a good time to go. I got done at 1:00 p.m. And it was just starting to get busy and they say on weekends forget about it it's nothing but waiting. And evenings during the week. That's why there were so many old people in there like me because we know when to go and we don't have jobs so we can go anytime we want. And yes there was a woman in there who was using four washing machines and six dryers she was there when I got there and she was there when I left doing nothing but folding. She must have spent $40 on laundry easy.
Quote: DieterQuote: AZDuffman
As to the machines, there was push for front loaders for some reason starting about 20 years ago. I'll keep my top loader thanks much.
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I believe the geometry of a front loader allows fully saturating the material to be cleaned with less water than a top-load design.
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Yes watching them work they obviously use way less water than a top loader. If I had to guess I'd say it was half as much.
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: DieterQuote: AZDuffman
As to the machines, there was push for front loaders for some reason starting about 20 years ago. I'll keep my top loader thanks much.
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I believe the geometry of a front loader allows fully saturating the material to be cleaned with less water than a top-load design.
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Might be. I remember in college reading how detergent in the USA and Germany had to be different because the Germans used about half the water but way, way hotter. Meanwhile Americans needed to see suds even if they mean little.
That being said, I will likely always prefer the top-load I have always used. Easier to load and unload.
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I did not find the front loader hard to load at all. A lady gave me a tip on the dryer she said always use a dryer that's way bigger than you need cuz it'll dry your clothes twice as fast and she was right. If the clothes are loose in the dryer they have a lot more room to fly around and be exposed to the hot air. It cost more but like Elon Musk says the older you get the more you realize that time is your only currency. Time is the thing you have to use wisely because you can't replace it you can only spend it so be very careful about what you spend it on. Watching clothes dry is not my idea of time well spent nor is doing laundry one small load at a time.
Quote: EvenBobWatching clothes dry is not my idea of time well spent nor is doing laundry one small load at a time.
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That's why I hated apartment life and loved it the minute I got my own house with a washer. Throw clothes in and do something else.
I still remember the quote at the start of work from home when the virus hit. "There is two kinds of people who work from home. Them that take time from their desk to throw laundry in and them that lie and say they don't do that."
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: DieterQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: lilredrooster.
a/c was not widely prevalent in the U.S. as late as the late 50s
people sweltered - I struggled with asthma until we got it - Doctors orders
it wasn't until the late 60s that the majority of homes and businesses had a/c
I'd say the majority of homes did not have it until the late 80s. You might have had a window unit for the bedroom, but if you had central air in the 70s you were considered rich.
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I remember when the window units couldn't keep up during the peak of summer, we'd go see a movie in the theater - matinees at the second run cinema, usually.
I think a lot of the second run theaters are now closed, between the pressures of home video libraries, streaming, and the time of great public health concern.
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Usually my window unit was enough, Except in Phoenix the central air went out and inside probably hit 120F. I dragged my window unit out of storage. Took all day to get oit to tolerable. Funny thing is roommates GF saw me carrying it in and she had no idea what it was!
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When they were filming the movie "The Brink's Job" in the North End in Boston,a resident was paid to remove the air conditioner from his window so they could film on that particular street for a shot. The next day when they arrived to continue filming, every window on the street had an air conditioner.
The street I grew up on here in MA had one of the Brink's robbers, George Jung from the movie "Blow" fame as well as Elmer O. Stennes, a notorious killer who is famous for making high quality hand made clock cases who was murdered in a home invasion.
Quote: DieterLaundromats are great for large items, like blankets.
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I solved that. I just cut my blankets in half and duct tape them back together.
j/k
My very first apartment in my life was upstairs over a laundry room. I went to sleep from the constant gentle hum. Just like ASMR, Actually it wasn't too bad. If I normally had kept my window open it would have been, but I didn't.
Quote: EvenBobI did not find the front loader hard to load at all. A lady gave me a tip on the dryer she said always use a dryer that's way bigger than you need cuz it'll dry your clothes twice as fast and she was right. If the clothes are loose in the dryer they have a lot more room to fly around and be exposed to the hot air. It cost more but like Elon Musk says the older you get the more you realize that time is your only currency. Time is the thing you have to use wisely because you can't replace it you can only spend it so be very careful about what you spend it on. Watching clothes dry is not my idea of time well spent nor is doing laundry one small load at a time.
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I used to work with a guy who had 2 dryers at home.
He could either split one load to dry in half the time, or run a second load before the first one had finished drying. This seemed to work out, since the dryers of the time took about twice as long as the wash cycle for a full capacity load.
Another friend used guerrilla laundromat techniques, always splitting each washer load into two or three dryers (as available). I think he usually managed to get the dryer time down to around 20 minutes.
I can't remember how many times I've seen inexperienced laundromat users waiting seemingly forever on a dryer because they crammed 3 washer loads into one dryer and didn't clear the lint screen. I assume that if an industrial laundry dryer is taking more than 45 minutes, I've done something horribly wrong.
As for peak vs off-peak laundromat time... the people watching is better during peak times.
I'm still curious about the antecedent circumstances that led to a pile of ashes (including at least one burnt athletic shoe) in one of the dryers in the laundromat in the new neighborhood. There is a bar next door, but I don't know how the food is.
Substantially similar to the agitator/mangle EvenBob posted, but noisier and more useful prior to rural electrification.
I don't recall if any I've seen used waste engine heat to warm the washtub.
I believe exhaust pipe extensions were available, should you wish to launder indoors and open some windows.
Quote: DieterIf you attend antique power shows (steam tractors, thresherees, etc), you can occasionally find a gasoline engine powered washing machine on display.
Substantially similar to the agitator/mangle EvenBob posted, but noisier and more useful prior to rural electrification.
I don't recall if any I've seen used waste engine heat to warm the washtub.
I believe exhaust pipe extensions were available, should you wish to launder indoors and open some windows.
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Back when I used to go to the Shipshewana Indiana auction every week there's a lot of Amish people in that area and they were always at the auction buying stuff. One of the things they fought over was if a old agitator washing machine came out for bid because they could use them by converting them to run on a gasoline engine. They don't have electric but they do allow small gas engines. The Amish men always had on overalls and they carried their money in a huge wad surrounded by rubber bands, thousands of dollars sometimes. Some of the most unfriendly snobbish people I've ever met, especially the women. They would literally have their noses up in the air they were so arrogant as they walked around, so much better than everybody else. I used to laugh because I could do my laundry in half an hour and it took them all day with their stupid gasoline engine running washers.
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As for peak vs off-peak laundromat time... the people watching is better during peak times.
I'm still curious about the antecedent circumstances that led to a pile of ashes (including at least one burnt athletic shoe) in one of the dryers in the laundromat in the new neighborhood. There is a bar next door, but I don't know how the food is.
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I used to think about how it would be good to combine things in a strip plaza. Laundromat, haircut place, guy, maybe oil change shop, etc. All the time consumers so you could drop your clothes in and take care of other things.
As to the people watching, People of Wal-Mart have nothing on the local laundromat. To think it was once considered a place to meet women.....
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: Dieter
As for peak vs off-peak laundromat time... the people watching is better during peak times.
I'm still curious about the antecedent circumstances that led to a pile of ashes (including at least one burnt athletic shoe) in one of the dryers in the laundromat in the new neighborhood. There is a bar next door, but I don't know how the food is.
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I used to think about how it would be good to combine things in a strip plaza. Laundromat, haircut place, guy, maybe oil change shop, etc. All the time consumers so you could drop your clothes in and take care of other things.
As to the people watching, People of Wal-Mart have nothing on the local laundromat. To think it was once considered a place to meet women.....
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If you really want to spend money to save time, laundry services are still out there. Either "wash and fold" or "fluff and fold" are popular terms. Classier services seem to use an ozone process these days. Expect surcharges for large bedding items or starching and pressing the shirts.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: DieterIf you attend antique power shows (steam tractors, thresherees, etc), you can occasionally find a gasoline engine powered washing machine on display.
Substantially similar to the agitator/mangle EvenBob posted, but noisier and more useful prior to rural electrification.
I don't recall if any I've seen used waste engine heat to warm the washtub.
I believe exhaust pipe extensions were available, should you wish to launder indoors and open some windows.
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Back when I used to go to the Shipshewana Indiana auction every week there's a lot of Amish people in that area and they were always at the auction buying stuff. One of the things they fought over was if a old agitator washing machine came out for bid because they could use them by converting them to run on a gasoline engine. They don't have electric but they do allow small gas engines. The Amish men always had on overalls and they carried their money in a huge wad surrounded by rubber bands, thousands of dollars sometimes. Some of the most unfriendly snobbish people I've ever met, especially the women. They would literally have their noses up in the air they were so arrogant as they walked around, so much better than everybody else. I used to laugh because I could do my laundry in half an hour and it took them all day with their stupid gasoline engine running washers.
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My occasional dealings with the Amish have been as a lone 'English' (non-Amish) guy in the Amish community, and I have found the Amish to be generally warm and friendly while on their home turf. I understand how many of the Amish may seem distant while among the 'English' community, being strangers in a strange land.
Overalls, really? I've only ever seen black homesewn trousers with suspenders. The hitching posts in the medical clinic parking lot around Shipshe startled me the first time I passed through. Seeing hitching posts at a Walmart (with grass nibbled and remnants of horse exhaust on the pavement) only merited a slight inclination of an eyebrow.
Quote: DieterQuote: EvenBobQuote: DieterIf you attend antique power shows (steam tractors, thresherees, etc), you can occasionally find a gasoline engine powered washing machine on display.
Substantially similar to the agitator/mangle EvenBob posted, but noisier and more useful prior to rural electrification.
I don't recall if any I've seen used waste engine heat to warm the washtub.
I believe exhaust pipe extensions were available, should you wish to launder indoors and open some windows.
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Back when I used to go to the Shipshewana Indiana auction every week there's a lot of Amish people in that area and they were always at the auction buying stuff. One of the things they fought over was if a old agitator washing machine came out for bid because they could use them by converting them to run on a gasoline engine. They don't have electric but they do allow small gas engines. The Amish men always had on overalls and they carried their money in a huge wad surrounded by rubber bands, thousands of dollars sometimes. Some of the most unfriendly snobbish people I've ever met, especially the women. They would literally have their noses up in the air they were so arrogant as they walked around, so much better than everybody else. I used to laugh because I could do my laundry in half an hour and it took them all day with their stupid gasoline engine running washers.
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My occasional dealings with the Amish have been as a lone 'English' (non-Amish) guy in the Amish community, and I have found the Amish to be generally warm and friendly while on their home turf. I understand how many of the Amish may seem distant while among the 'English' community, being strangers in a strange land.
Overalls, really? I've only ever seen black homesewn trousers with suspenders. The hitching posts in the medical clinic parking lot around Shipshe startled me the first time I passed through. Seeing hitching posts at a Walmart (with grass nibbled and remnants of horse exhaust on the pavement) only merited a slight inclination of an eyebrow.
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There are all kinds of Amish people and some of them wear overalls. Where I was in Indiana it was overalls that's all you saw. There is also a huge problem with alcoholism in every Amish community. I used to stop at a village that had a liquor store on my way back to Michigan and I got to know the owner he said without the Amish he would go out of business. They come in the back door and pick up their pre-ordered vodka in a brown paper bag and scurry back out to their horse and buggy. It got so bad they passed a state law in Indiana that the punishment for driving drunk with a horse and buggy was the same as with a car. The Amish are always friendly if they think you're going to buy something from them but I have found that if you're not they mostly treat you like crap because they think that you are far inferior to them.
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The thought of folding seven loads at once negates any potential time savings. These days my wardrobe is lean and mean. I recently bought ten t-shirts and threw away all my old ones. One small load weekly works great.
In my case, I fold very little. Shirts and pants all go on hangars, socks and underwear do not get folded as I just throw them in a drawer. Towels I will fold and sheets I will fold but that is generally the extent of my folding.
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If you really want to spend money to save time, laundry services are still out there. Either "wash and fold" or "fluff and fold" are popular terms. Classier services seem to use an ozone process these days. Expect surcharges for large bedding items or starching and pressing the shirts.
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In Las Vegas I would occasionally use a Fluff & Fold laundry service. I would show up with two Hefty bags full of clothes and come back in two or three hours and everything would be done and on hangars. It was usually around $40 but some days it was just worth the cost.
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The thought of folding seven loads at once negates any potential time savings. These days my wardrobe is lean and mean. I recently bought ten t-shirts and threw away all my old ones. One small load weekly works great.
In my case, I fold very little. Shirts and pants all go on hangars, socks and underwear do not get folded as I just throw them in a drawer. Towels I will fold and sheets I will fold but that is generally the extent of my folding.
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I also just stuff the socks and underwear into a drawer what's the purpose of folding them I'v never understood that. I fold almost nothing wheress my wife being a woman folds everything but luckily we don't live together so who cares.
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If you really want to spend money to save time, laundry services are still out there. Either "wash and fold" or "fluff and fold" are popular terms. Classier services seem to use an ozone process these days. Expect surcharges for large bedding items or starching and pressing the shirts.
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In Las Vegas I would occasionally use a Fluff & Fold laundry service. I would show up with two Hefty bags full of clothes and come back in two or three hours and everything would be done and on hangars. It was usually around $40 but some days it was just worth the cost.
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I don't have to do laundry very often because I wear the same kinds of clothes now all the time. I have 15 hoodie short sleeve shirts that are all identical and that's basically all I wear around the house. I like the kangaroo pocket because that's where my phone goes and I like the hood because when I take a nap I just pull the hood down over my face. When you get older it's good to just trim things down to the bare minimum. I have 40 pair of underwear and 25 white t-shirts and I don't do laundry till they're all dirty. At the laundromat I can do all this at once now screw getting my washer fixed.
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The thought of folding seven loads at once negates any potential time savings. These days my wardrobe is lean and mean. I recently bought ten t-shirts and threw away all my old ones. One small load weekly works great.
In my case, I fold very little. Shirts and pants all go on hangars, socks and underwear do not get folded as I just throw them in a drawer. Towels I will fold and sheets I will fold but that is generally the extent of my folding.
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I also just stuff the socks and underwear into a drawer what's the purpose of folding them I'v never understood that. I fold almost nothing wheress my wife being a woman folds everything but luckily we don't live together so who cares.
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My wife folds almost nothing. I fold almost everything.
I find it useful to pair up the socks.
We effectively don't live together, since I travel so much.
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The thought of folding seven loads at once negates any potential time savings. These days my wardrobe is lean and mean. I recently bought ten t-shirts and threw away all my old ones. One small load weekly works great.
In my case, I fold very little. Shirts and pants all go on hangars, socks and underwear do not get folded as I just throw them in a drawer. Towels I will fold and sheets I will fold but that is generally the extent of my folding.
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I also just stuff the socks and underwear into a drawer what's the purpose of folding them I'v never understood that. I fold almost nothing wheress my wife being a woman folds everything but luckily we don't live together so who cares.
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My wife folds almost nothing. I fold almost everything.
I find it useful to pair up the socks.
We effectively don't live together, since I travel so much.
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I basically only have two types of socks. Plain black dress socks and plain white athletic socks. I don't bother pairing them up as all I have to do is grab two of the same color. I have now lived in Florida for about 20 months and I don't think I have worn socks more than three or four times.
Quote: billryanI don't think I own a pair of socks, am haven't worn any in years. Shorts, t-shirt, and boat shoes is my standard uniform these days.
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My three exceptions are weddings, funerals, and when getting on an airplane. My feet freeze on a plane.
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As for peak vs off-peak laundromat time... the people watching is better during peak times.
I'm still curious about the antecedent circumstances that led to a pile of ashes (including at least one burnt athletic shoe) in one of the dryers in the laundromat in the new neighborhood. There is a bar next door, but I don't know how the food is.
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I used to think about how it would be good to combine things in a strip plaza. Laundromat, haircut place, guy, maybe oil change shop, etc. All the time consumers so you could drop your clothes in and take care of other things.
As to the people watching, People of Wal-Mart have nothing on the local laundromat. To think it was once considered a place to meet women.....
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If you really want to spend money to save time, laundry services are still out there. Either "wash and fold" or "fluff and fold" are popular terms. Classier services seem to use an ozone process these days. Expect surcharges for large bedding items or starching and pressing the shirts.
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Paying for that kind of service is what keeps poor people poor. Even if I had the cash why would I do that? Any time savings would be eaten up dropping off and picking up.
Quote: DieterQuote: EvenBobQuote: DieterIf you attend antique power shows (steam tractors, thresherees, etc), you can occasionally find a gasoline engine powered washing machine on display.
Substantially similar to the agitator/mangle EvenBob posted, but noisier and more useful prior to rural electrification.
I don't recall if any I've seen used waste engine heat to warm the washtub.
I believe exhaust pipe extensions were available, should you wish to launder indoors and open some windows.
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Back when I used to go to the Shipshewana Indiana auction every week there's a lot of Amish people in that area and they were always at the auction buying stuff. One of the things they fought over was if a old agitator washing machine came out for bid because they could use them by converting them to run on a gasoline engine. They don't have electric but they do allow small gas engines. The Amish men always had on overalls and they carried their money in a huge wad surrounded by rubber bands, thousands of dollars sometimes. Some of the most unfriendly snobbish people I've ever met, especially the women. They would literally have their noses up in the air they were so arrogant as they walked around, so much better than everybody else. I used to laugh because I could do my laundry in half an hour and it took them all day with their stupid gasoline engine running washers.
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My occasional dealings with the Amish have been as a lone 'English' (non-Amish) guy in the Amish community, and I have found the Amish to be generally warm and friendly while on their home turf. I understand how many of the Amish may seem distant while among the 'English' community, being strangers in a strange land.
Overalls, really? I've only ever seen black homesewn trousers with suspenders. The hitching posts in the medical clinic parking lot around Shipshe startled me the first time I passed through. Seeing hitching posts at a Walmart (with grass nibbled and remnants of horse exhaust on the pavement) only merited a slight inclination of an eyebrow.
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"Amish" is like saying "Jewish." There are different levels of reform in differing sects. My experience is mostly just friendly waves as we drove by looking for, and I am not making this up, "the only non-Amish house on the block" for a sales call. Any group like that will probably be polite but cautious to outsiders. This comes off as "rude" to most Americans who are used to something warmer. My guess is Europeans would think it normal.
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"Amish" is like saying "Jewish." There are different levels of reform in differing sects. My experience is mostly just friendly waves as we drove by looking for, and I am not making this up, "the only non-Amish house on the block" for a sales call. Any group like that will probably be polite but cautious to outsiders. This comes off as "rude" to most Americans who are used to something warmer. My guess is Europeans would think it normal.
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To get to know the Amish you have to deal with them all the time like I did week after week after week for several years and you slowly come to learn that most of them think they're way better than you are, they're more religious, they have stricter morals, and they're basically doing you a favor by even talking to you. Some of them are very two-faced if they're in business because on the outside they seem all friendly and joking and accepting but that's because they want your money. Actually they feel nothing but disdain for you because that's what they've been taught. You are the 'English' even if you're Hispanic or Muslim or Asian, it means you're an outsider and as an outsider you can't be trusted or treated as an equal. You dig deep into their culture you find that they're just like all cults that are closed off. There is lots of pettiness and backbiting and all the things they say they're against. You see this in every cult if you manage to get on the inside. The picture they present to the world is not reality.
