Remember When
NFL network is the worst. Can't use sunday ticket, and I usually just end up streaming the game on my laptop. TBH sunday ticket is a waste of money actually because if you know where to look you can get any game on HD.
The only non-sports show I watched was Shark Tank. Even then I watch less then 3 hours in a year.
I watched Netflix for 3 days straight because I used a friend's login to watch the Office, but other then that I don't use it.
Quote: EvenBob
These shows are snapshots of life in the
60's, it really did exist, I was there. It's a
time I can't even imagine now, but it
was there. The innocence of it, the
family values.
It all started going downhill about 1964. Society changed mostly for the worse.
Just as amazing I suppose is the divide among people who grew up in the 1970s vs the 1990s. Past couple years I have worked in places with that divide. Some of us in our 40s/50s vs the kids in their 20s/30s. But in this case it is us telling about the free-for-alll the 1970s were.
Quote: AZDuffmanIt all started going downhill about 1964. Society changed mostly for the worse.
I think it's women's lib, about 1970,
that changed it all for the worse.
What a cluster pile that has been, it
gave us things like Hillary and her
enabling of her philandering husband,
which gave us the sexual mess we're
in now with celebrities and politicians.
By vilifying the women who came forward,
Hillary made it hard for victimized women
to speak, and gave tacit permission for
men to act like pigs. It's no accident that
Her losing the election opened this subject
up to the light of day.
America woke up and realized how ridiculous the Archie Bunkers of the world were. Sadly, fifty years later, he is a role model to a moron class yearning for " those days".
I know a lot of people have cable because I guess it's the way to go for all your sports needs.
And I have a few other family members who have cable because they enjoy watching garbage television (i.e., cable news and reality shows).
I remember back in 2001 was the last time I paid for cable. It was $7 for the basic package, which included all the networks and like 20-30 of the major cable channels (cable news, TNT, TBS, Discovery, MTV, VH1, etc.), and this was back when there were less than 100 channels, tops. It started going downhill fast a few years after that.
Quote:By vilifying the women who came forward,
Hillary made it hard for victimized women
to speak, and gave tacit permission for
men to act like pigs.
Haha... that kind of nonsense was going on LONG before Hillary was even born....
Quote: EvenBobI think it's women's lib, about 1970,
that changed it all for the worse.
The Soviets don't need to nuke us, just break up the American family, turn wives against their husbands, kids against their parents, take God out of school, debauch our currency, we will fall like overripe fruit.
Unless, of course, we could Make America Great Again.
Quote: billryan1972 , or thereabouts, when All in the Family debuted.
America woke up and realized how ridiculous the Archie Bunkers of the world were. Sadly, fifty years later, he is a role model to a moron class yearning for " those days".
There's a lot of "Meatheads" in the world.
Quote: AZDuffmanIt all started going downhill about 1964. Society changed mostly for the worse.
Just as amazing I suppose is the divide among people who grew up in the 1970s vs the 1990s. Past couple years I have worked in places with that divide. Some of us in our 40s/50s vs the kids in their 20s/30s. But in this case it is us telling about the free-for-alll the 1970s were.
Don't forget Rap "Music". A cancer. Seriously.
Quote: TigerWuHaha... that kind of nonsense was going on LONG before Hillary was even born....
Ha ha, not out in public it wasn't. Where
you had a First Lady calling the women
who cheated with her husband every
name in the book just so she could satisfy
her blind ambitions in politics.
Quote: bobbartopThe Soviets don't need to nuke us, just break up the American family, turn wives against their husbands, kids against their parents, take God out of school, debauch our currency, we will fall like overripe fruit.
I'm pretty sure the Russians got the short end of the stick on that whole Cold War deal...
Quote: EvenBobHa ha, not out in public it wasn't. Where
you had a First Lady calling the women
who cheated with her husband every
name in the book just so she could satisfy
her blind ambitions in politics.
No, I mean women being victimized, not being able to speak out, and letting men get away with being pigs. That most definitely did not start with Hillary. That's how I took your comment.
obQuote: bobbartopDon't forget Rap "Music". A cancer. Seriously.
I do not use those two words in the same sentence.
Quote: EvenBobI think it's women's lib, about 1970,
that changed it all for the worse.
What a cluster pile that has been, it
gave us things like Hillary and her
enabling of her philandering husband,
which gave us the sexual mess we're
in now with celebrities and politicians.
It was many things, but the biggest might be that by 1965 you had people reaching adulthood that knew nothing but peace and plenty. The Korean War was just forgotten about. There was almost total steady growth from 1939. Less and less need to act responsible. Then the biggie, LBJ and his "War on Poverty Families." He just destroyed the black family. Before this, Blacks were less well off but their families were intact and their neighborhoods were not war zones.
The disaster that modern feminism has been for women could be its own thread.
Quote: MaxPen
I loved Archie, I disagreed with little
he said. Especially about FDR. And
his big mouthed meddling wife,
Elanor.
Quote: AZDuffmanThe disaster that modern feminism has been for women could be its own thread.
I love the stuff written by women who
knew Hillary in her college years. The
epitome of feminism, she shaved nothing
on her body. She also stank because she
only bathed a couple times a week. Her
hair was stringy and greasy from being
unwashed. What Bill ever saw in her is
a mystery to this day, maybe she did his
homework for him. That could explain it.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: MaxPen
I loved Archie, I disagreed with little
he said. Especially about FDR. And
his big mouthed meddling wife,
Elanor.
Edith
Quote: EvenBobI love the stuff written by women who
knew Hillary in her college years. The
epitome of feminism, she shaved nothing
on her body. She also stank because she
only bathed a couple times a week. Her
hair was stringy and greasy from being
unwashed. What Bill ever saw in her is
a mystery to this day, maybe she did his
homework for him. That could explain it.
A 90s joke was that women liked Bill because he married the dumpy girl who did his homework.
Feminism taught women they could be like men. Then they could not find and keep husbands because men do not want to marry men, they want to marry a woman. Feminist still do not see this lesson. They just try to blur the lines. Now we have men who act feminine because they (hope this is not suspension bait!) think women want that. It backfires. Traditional women wonder where all the men have gone. Feminists get wimpy guys who let them rule the roost but they are unhappy because both are breaking biology.
I still remember what I saw leaving the Hillary rally here last year. Talk about metrosexualized guys! I doubt 1 in 10 of them could tell me the difference between a rachet and a socket.
Depends a bit as to whose wife you are trying to name. Edith Bunker was Archie's wife. "Elanor" is a misspelling of the given name of FDR's wife.Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: EvenBobI loved Archie, I disagreed with little
he said. Especially about FDR. And
his big mouthed meddling wife,
Elanor.
Edith
Quote: DocDepends a bit as to whose wife you are trying to name. Edith Bunker was Archie's wife. "Elanor" is a misspelling of the given name of FDR's wife.
Oh, how did I not catch that as Edith was not meddling, just a bit of a dingbat.
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: EvenBobQuote: MaxPen
I loved Archie, I disagreed with little
he said. Especially about FDR. And
his big mouthed meddling wife,
Elanor.
Edith
Was referring to FDR's big mouthed
wife, Elanor. Archie didn't like her
either.
Hey, no fool like an old fool.
Quote: AZDuffmanA 90s joke was that women liked Bill because he married the dumpy girl who did his homework.
Feminism taught women they could be like men. Then they could not find and keep husbands because men do not want to marry men, they want to marry a woman. Feminist still do not see this lesson. They just try to blur the lines. Now we have men who act feminine because they (hope this is not suspension bait!) think women want that. It backfires. Traditional women wonder where all the men have gone. Feminists get wimpy guys who let them rule the roost but they are unhappy because both are breaking biology.
I still remember what I saw leaving the Hillary rally here last year. Talk about metrosexualized guys! I doubt 1 in 10 of them could tell me the difference between a rachet and a socket.
AZ you are a damn genius! Great post!!! "Feminists get wimpy guys who let them rule the roost but they are unhappy because both are breaking biology."
Quote: KeyserAZ you are a damn genius! Great post!!! "Feminists get wimpy guys who let them rule the roost but they are unhappy because both are breaking biology."
Tom Leykis says he's found that the crappier
you treat a woman, the more you let her
know you're in charge, the more she'll
want you. Guys doubt him until they
try it and holy smoke, the worse they treat
them, the more they keep coming back,
Leykis says it's because attractive women
have poor self images, and the more you
feed the image they have, the more they
feel like they have to convince you they
really aren't that way.
Breaking biology: women were often soldiers, particularly the US Civil War. Women fought on the frontier, held local offices well before the suffrage movement. Was biology broken then? When women voters were pushed aside at the NYC polls was biology repaired? Or did that take place when a court ruled a wife could be committed to an asylum even if not insane? What about Meryl Streep being targeted by today's feminists?
Eleanor's mouth and FDR's treason. Neither was 'the good old days'. Such days do not exist.
Quote: FleaStiffBreaking biology, breaking news, breaking bad ...
Breaking biology: women were often soldiers, particularly the US Civil War. Women fought on the frontier, held local offices well before the suffrage movement. Was biology broken then? When women voters were pushed aside at the NYC polls was biology repaired? Or did that take place when a court ruled a wife could be committed to an asylum even if not insane? What about Meryl Streep being targeted by today's feminists?
Yes, they were breaking biology. As Tom Leykis explains, we cannot go over the 1880 census woman by woman and explain what they did. Lets look at the frontier. There, women generally fell into three groups:
1. Wives (or widows, who remarried fast)
2. School marms
3. Prostitutes
Doubt me? What was the percent of male population in most frontier towns?
The point is not that women *can't* do most things. It is that the prefer not to do so. See the quote: "Feminists only want equality for the 'fun stuff.'" Even then, there are issues. The desire to get those outliers is so great that women get pushed where they should not be. John Stossel showed tape of women training to be firefighters. It was a mess. They lowered standards so they could make it.
Now, are there women firefighters? Of course! At volunteer and professional levels. Are they an outlier minority? You betcha!
Quote: TigerWuI'm pretty sure the Russians got the short end of the stick on that whole Cold War deal...
Where'd you hear that? Snopes? You ain't pretty sure bout nuthin.
Quote: EvenBobThey had us hiding under our desks with
our hands over our heads at school, do you know how
terrifying that is to a little kid?
because of that TO THIS DAY I have nightmare like daydreams of an atomic blast incinerating everything around me including me and my people.
NYC even had a mandatory off the streets drill as part of the civil defense junk that was going on.
Quote: bobbartopWhere'd you hear that? Snopes? You ain't pretty sure bout nuthin.
Tell me which country you would rather live in, right now, or at any point in the last century: The United States or Russia/U.S.S.R. And I don't give a tinker's cuss what Snopes says about the Cold War.
Quote: TigerWuTell me which country you would rather live in, right now, or at any point in the last century: The United States or Russia/U.S.S.R. And I don't give a tinker's cuss what Snopes says about the Cold War.
That's a tough one. I bet this is going to be deep.
Quote: bobbartopThat's a tough one. I bet this is going to be deep.
Merry Christmas!
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Quote: onenickelmiracleRemember when bald guys were bald on top, but had hair on the sides of their head. It's a rare thing these days. I noticed something rarer today, a bald man in the traditional sense, but he had about 15 lone survivor hairs on top of his head, each about 4 inches long just floating there curled over, the last hope.
Gen X seems to be when guys decided it looked better to go shaved bald or just really, really short than to let what survives survive and comb it all over to make it look like it is still there. Might have something to do with hairstyles being biased towards longer from the late 1960s to about 1981.
If there was a sadder look than the 1960s comb over, I can't picture it.
Nothing funnier than seeing the comb over fly off on a windy day, like a lid on a box flapping out.Quote: billryanBy shaving your entire head, you create the illusion of possibly having a full head of hair.
If there was a sadder look than the 1960s comb over, I can't picture it.
Quote: onenickelmiracleNothing funnier than seeing the comb over fly off on a windy day, like a lid on a box flapping out.
In high school, we had a teacher we all thought was pretty cool. He was in his early thirties and prematurely balding. He had decent hair on the sides and an elaborate comb over that didn't look all that bad. Then one day he joined us in a spirited game of BBall and his comb over flapped around pathetically.
He lost a lot of respect that day. Knowing early on the fate that awaited me, I vowed I'd never wear one.
Just wondering...if a woman had thinning hair would it be ok for us to make fun of her comb over?
No, but that's ok.Quote: Keyser
Just wondering...if a woman had thinning hair would it be ok for us to make fun of her comb over?
of computers and what I can do on the
internet. I was thinking, what in my life
so far has impressed me the most, what
had the biggest impact on me.
My wife's grandmother was born in 1901
and when she was 10, the first car came
to her small town in rural upper MI. She
talked about it all her life as the one thing
that impressed her most. They had a parade
for that one car, it belonged to the local
doctor. Not planes, not electricity, it was
that car that did it for her.
For me, without a doubt, it was getting
my first color TV in 1970. I had watched
B/W for 16 years and that TV blew my
mind. I was enthralled with it for at least
2 years. I watched like a kid at the circus,
nothing has ever come close to that
experience. I was in heaven every day for
at least 2 years. It's hard to understand
unless all you had was B/W since you were
5 years old.
The expression is tinker's dam. It is a THREE letter word and it has absolutely no relation to a FOUR letter word of any sort. Early English environmental law forbade a tinker (worker in tin) from selling, giving, lending or abandoning his dam. It therefore had no price and could not even be given away much less sold. It is sort of like my opinion of something... utterly worthless. Can't even be sold for a penny.Quote: TigerWuAnd I don't give a tinker's cuss ...
Quote: FleaStiffThe expression is tinker's dam. It is a THREE letter word and it has absolutely no relation to a FOUR letter word of any sort. Early English environmental law forbade a tinker (worker in tin) from selling, giving, lending or abandoning his dam. It therefore had no price and could not even be given away much less sold. It is sort of like my opinion of something... utterly worthless. Can't even be sold for a penny.
The first time I heard of tinker's dam was when our parish priest got accused of swearing when he said something was not worth a tinker's dam.
TigerWu's use of "tinker's cuss" is the first I've heard. Here's the Wikipedia article about tinkers, tinker's dam, and tinker's cuss.
Quote: EvenBobEvery day I am blown away by the power
of computers and what I can do on the
internet.
The interesting thing to me is how long it took to get computers near-right, and how far we have come since. The PC was born for all intents and purposes in 1981. It took 10+ years to become affordable to most people, and really it was 1995 before it did much at home other than word processing, some spreadsheets, and games. Before 1995, it was really possible or worthwhile to have more than one program running at one time. I remember hearing about this feature and my reaction was, "why would you want to?"
1995-2005 was a transition time. The internet came about, and we got to see an industry and technology come about. Rules were made and broken. Things came and went. Who remembers ICQ? But what really happened was standards started getting set. "Know Microsoft Office" was once worth putting on a resume, remember that? For a few years recruiters would send a little test to prove you did. Maybe they still do, or maybe I have not had one because my resume is such that they figure it is impossible I do not.
2018. My job cannot function without them. I walk into a room and take pictures of what I need. I send them from my phone and they are waiting at my computer when I get back to the next room. What is most amazing is I think nothing at all of it. As late as the 1970s it is doubtful even the POTUS had such a capability available to him. I got it all for less than $1,000.
Quote: AZDuffmanThe interesting thing to me is how long it took to get computers near-right, and how far we have come since. The PC was born for all intents and purposes in 1981. It took 10+ years to become affordable to most people, and really it was 1995 before it did much at home other than word processing, some spreadsheets, and games. Before 1995, it was really possible or worthwhile to have more than one program running at one time. I remember hearing about this feature and my reaction was, "why would you want to?"
1995-2005 was a transition time. The internet came about, and we got to see an industry and technology come about. Rules were made and broken. Things came and went. Who remembers ICQ? But what really happened was standards started getting set. "Know Microsoft Office" was once worth putting on a resume, remember that? For a few years recruiters would send a little test to prove you did. Maybe they still do, or maybe I have not had one because my resume is such that they figure it is impossible I do not.
2018. My job cannot function without them. I walk into a room and take pictures of what I need. I send them from my phone and they are waiting at my computer when I get back to the next room. What is most amazing is I think nothing at all of it. As late as the 1970s it is doubtful even the POTUS had such a capability available to him. I got it all for less than $1,000.
It took humans roughly the same amount of time to progress from copper to steel weapons as it took them to progress from steel to nuclear weapons.
Quote: AZDuffman2018. My job cannot function without them. I walk into a room and take pictures of what I need. I send them from my phone and they are waiting at my computer when I get back to the next room. What is most amazing is I think nothing at all of it. As late as the 1970s it is doubtful even the POTUS had such a capability available to him. I got it all for less than $1,000.
I paid thru the nose for my first
digital camera in 1997 for Ebay.
I was a huge camera guy, had a
bunch of SLR's with accessories
like winders and tripods. Never
used them again after I got the
digital.
I bought my last digital in 2004
and it still works great. 6 megs,
a huge number then. I see 16 meg
models at Walmart for $100, I paid
$400 for mine 14 years ago. I can't
imagine why you would need 16 megs.
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Quote: EvenBobI paid thru the nose for my first
digital camera in 1997 for Ebay.
I was a huge camera guy, had a
bunch of SLR's with accessories
like winders and tripods. Never
used them again after I got the
digital.
I bought my last digital in 2004
and it still works great. 6 megs,
a huge number then. I see 16 meg
models at Walmart for $100, I paid
$400 for mine 14 years ago. I can't
imagine why you would need 16 megs.
I bought my digital used off a roommate in 2007 and had to get it fixed. Think I still saved $50-100. I still have it but just use it for pics for eBay and rare pics of things I put online for whatever reason. Some to save, like my house remodel. It will probably do what I need it to do for my lifetime.
I still put 2005 as a sort of cutoff time. Before that you had to keep upgrading to keep up. Software leapfrogged hardware. Since then, well every new version of Windows is less and less a revolution than now a yearly model change, like seeing the new Fords and Chevys in fall used to be. My printer/scanner does all I need and some things I never bothered to figure out.
I remember reading in the late 1990s about how flash memory would change everything. I grasped the concept, but did not see what they would use it for. Now I mention those times and people ask what on earth flash memory is. They are using it all the time, but do not know how big it was to not lose your memory when the power went out or to not have to let a disk or tape spool.
