FleaStiff
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November 16th, 2009 at 12:56:04 PM permalink
Feel free to use this thread for information related to the Venetian and its comp's policies.
FleaStiff
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November 16th, 2009 at 1:05:31 PM permalink
When I visited The Venetian for several days during "Dead Week" (the week before Christmas) I was unfamiliar with Comps and really unconcerned with them at all. I just happened to step away from the craps table and approach a nearby Credit Desk to ask someone a question. I really don't recall what my question was, it but did not relate to Comps in any way. I just happened to preface my remarks with an offhand comment that I would soon be checking out and he assumed that I was inquiring about Comps so he asked for my Player Card. I wish I had jotted down his name because he did very well for me and gave me several hints about utilizing comps in Vegas.

I had been playing 50 on the Dont and 300 in Odds for most of my sessions. I've generally assumed that as with many casinos, OddsBets are not "rated" only the Flat Bet is rated, but it appears that at The Venetian, they view the Odds bet as an integral part of your rating and so my play was more highly rated than I would have imagined. Even when my luck turned against me and one of the dealers suggested I drop down to 25 for a flat bet, my play seemed to have been appreciated.
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November 16th, 2009 at 1:35:13 PM permalink
What kind of action is required for getting free room offers at Venetian/Palazzo? I've heard everything from black action (on BJ) to 2x20 for 1 hour to just solid single green play. What's your experience been on this?
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FleaStiff
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November 16th, 2009 at 4:34:06 PM permalink
I received scads of email reminders of 2-4 nights free at The Venetian. Once when I called to check on the dates, they said I would have 4 nights free and my contemplated 5th night at a commercial rate. It turns out I was unable to utilize any of the offers for a variety of reasons but it was nice to get these offers by email and snail mail. I think the offers were accompanied by some trivial amount of free play or match play or something.
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November 16th, 2009 at 6:20:15 PM permalink
After signing up for Club Grazie and playing a couple hours of Pai Gow Tiles at $25 per hand, I started receiving monthly mailers for 2-4 nights comped (Sun-Thurs only) plus $25-$50 Table Match Play. I'm in the lowest ranking of Club Grazie members, and have never received food comps at Venetian/Palazzo, but the free room is a great deal IMO. I've taken them up on the offer 3 times this year with no issues.
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FleaStiff
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November 17th, 2009 at 11:01:10 AM permalink
I assume you still charge your meals to your room. Do you "drop by" to see a host on the way to checking out? Its sort of a final chance to have them "express their appreciation". I think you really have to show them some heavy action to get any of those spa charges comped but meals (plus tips) are generally easy to get comped at The Venetian.
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November 22nd, 2009 at 8:13:17 PM permalink
Spa charges will not be comped at Venetian/Palazzo unless you're down 50k, or have a 50-75k marker limit, depending on who you speak with.

I've had big losses and decent play, and none of my spa charges was ever comped.

In regards to free odds in craps: they'll count your odds bet, but they'll comp you accordingly. I have heard and been told that while $250 avg bet x 4 hrs = RFB for most games there, craps requires $350.

Still, it's better than not having them count at all.
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November 22nd, 2009 at 10:00:58 PM permalink
If the Venetian counts the odds in the average bet amount, they may also depress the "theoretical house edge" for purposes of comps.

From personal experience, I think they give blackjack a very low theoretical. When I switched to pai gow, it seemed to be easier to please them.
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November 22nd, 2009 at 10:31:45 PM permalink
That's exactly what they do-- I just couldn't remember how to phrase it. My host at one point broke down how my comps were calculated based on theos. No idea what she meant exactly at the time, but the ratings of craps with free odds was part of it.
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November 25th, 2009 at 11:22:56 AM permalink
Frequent listener, first time caller here :) (i.e. browsed wizarofodds for several years). Just to add to the data, my wife and I will be at Venetian next month for $30/nt mid week (Grazie promo rate). Been going to Venetian (and a couple times at Palazzo) annually since we were married at Venetian in 2002. Promo rates have gotten progressively better each year even though our gambling has been pretty casual (wife does quarter slots, I've been doing $25-50 BJ). This year I plan to up my BJ to $100/hand.

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