RogerKint
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April 15th, 2016 at 5:59:08 PM permalink
This play is over my head but I'm willing to hold seats in exchange for Louie Anderson tickets.
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AxelWolf
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April 15th, 2016 at 6:14:26 PM permalink
"Selfish" ABSOLUTELY NOT. Whether or not I play something or not, I would still not want this information out to potentially hurt other AP's by killing a play. A few people privately asked me about the play and possibilities I had no problem telling them what I knew and or what had potential.

Not wanting to yet again give the casinos a road map to exactly what, when, where and how so they can foil the play befoe it starts (Like the Revel and othets) is in fact the reason I FLAGGED that post. If someone has to admit it, or we all get it, will gladly be the student who fesses up.

People probably think..."here comes Axel again trying to suppress information again. He is the only one who feels this way." Not true it seems I'm just the most outspoken about it. Perhaps others are shy, timid, affrade or just kinda know it probably doesn't help. But trust me lots of people feel the same way I do or they are just telling me this.

Hell most very successful AP don't even post on forums, especially guys that don't just concentrate on things like BJ.

*AGIAN, not wanting the casino and darksiders to have a road map is one of the reasons I did it*. .Because I knew it would start a big discussion about the best way to approach this. Basically giving the casino A XYZ of what to look for. It's not just the fact the play might not go off but they could potentially use this info to just 86 people or pull some other crap. It's all fun to talk about plays if your not the one in the line of fire or have any risk.

Many of you who know me, know I have another VERY GOOD reason as to why I didn't want to see this get posted.

And there's other factors involved that I'm not posting publicly (for a very good reason). Feel free to PM, Email or text me and I'll explain.

Its more shocking/upsetting have a fellow AP WHO IS NOT GOING TO PLAY IT posting up the information for Everyone to see. Especially since he gains nothing by doing so (perhaps you will be more likely to buy his book) It gets annoying that people put time, effort money into scouting and scouring and figuring stuff out just to have someone just post up free information.

I don't post up AP information about his location.Perhaps he will share his multi thousand dollar plays with us before and or while they are going?

I think he said he had some big play worth a significant amount yet he didn't tell the forum what when where.

Perhaps he didn't see the potential here I guess.

This information WILL NOT HELP 99% of the AP community. Very few have the ability , money, energy, people,I the right location, and time to take this on. Most of the people who are /were going to play this all ready had the information and plans. I realize it had already been posted about, but it was with a limited amount of talk if any.

I get that some people just enjoy reading about this stuff and learning etc etc. But if the public information keeps killing plays there won't be anything to talk about or do.

I don't nessasarly have problem with talking about some plays after the fact, hopefully after a cooling off period. I would hope if it's something good and can read appear they would leave some details out. People interested in more details can always PM.

I see someone already posted up where you can play FP on VP (That's Just Wonderful) it's been there for a long long time and now perhaps it won't be.

Those machines have been a benefit to people who get weekly free play and other ongoing promos. If it ends because of this thread how does that help gambler's. Just look around (sorry if you tested every machine and couldn't find it)

I didn't mean any disrespect to the site or Mike by flagging it was not out of greed or selfishness it was out of trying preserving something.

Who knows, this promo might go off like a charm and all is well. Let's hope, and Goodluck to all set you all after my forum vacation or possibly at WOV spring fling.
Last edited by: AxelWolf on Apr 15, 2016
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Ibeatyouraces
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April 15th, 2016 at 6:16:47 PM permalink
This promo was posted on LVA.
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darkoz
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April 15th, 2016 at 6:30:31 PM permalink
There have been some people on here who have complained that I just ruined a great AP maneuver (they have sent me pm's in upset)

I would never give away an AP maneuver that was private and earned (for example those two guys who discovered the Poker double up bug).

The Plaza promotion however is neither a private nor an earned one (that is you didn't discover it through trial and error or your own diligence.) This offer was announced publicly through a press release from the casino, has been printed in gambling magazines across the country including ones being distributed in Atlantic City on the opposite coast.

Furthermore, it can be found announced on Steve Bouries site, American Casino Guide here: http://forum.americancasinoguide.com/casino-promotions/10887-plaza-hotel-casino-las-vegas-will-pay-your-jackpot-taxes-april-18-a-print.html

It can be found on Anthony Curtis gambling site (along with other tax day offers) here: http://vegasseven.com/2016/04/13/tax-day-deals/

It can be found here at CasinoCityTimes; http://www.casinocitytimes.com/news/article/plaza-hotel-and-casino-to-pay-your-taxes-on-april-18-217082

It can be found here at Gaming Today: http://www.gamingtoday.com/casino_games/video_casino/article/59670-Plaza_hits_jackpot_with_tax_savings#.VxGUU4-cEjY

And it can be found on the casinos own website prominently under, you guessed it, April promotions.

Now a few AP's have complained that the only machines worth attacking there, amount to four. I guarantee you, with all of the above exposure, if you thought those four machines were going to magically be open, that no one, particularly AP's, reads any of the above site nor the nationally distributed gambling magazines, that you guys are sorely disillusioned.

In fact, it would have been nothing short of ridiculous for this AP move to be listed on Anthony Curtis site, and Steve Bouries site and all the others - and NOT be listed or discussed on WOV.

I didn't put it up to ruin anyones move (trust me that was accomplished by all the other press). I did it to benefit the audience of WOV which comes here to learn of gambling opportunities.

We all have our secret moves. This was not one of them.

Good luck (I truly mean that) on all those who make to the Plaza for this promotion.
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AxelWolf
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April 15th, 2016 at 7:23:21 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

There have been some people on here who have complained that I just ruined a great AP maneuver (they have sent me pm's in upset)

I would never give away an AP maneuver that was private and earned (for example those two guys who discovered the Poker double up bug).

The Plaza promotion however is neither a private nor an earned one (that is you didn't discover it through trial and error or your own diligence.) This offer was announced publicly through a press release from the casino, has been printed in gambling magazines across the country including ones being distributed in Atlantic City on the opposite coast.

Furthermore, it can be found announced on Steve Bouries site, American Casino Guide here: http://forum.americancasinoguide.com/casino-promotions/10887-plaza-hotel-casino-las-vegas-will-pay-your-jackpot-taxes-april-18-a-print.html

It can be found on Anthony Curtis gambling site (along with other tax day offers) here: http://vegasseven.com/2016/04/13/tax-day-deals/

It can be found here at CasinoCityTimes; http://www.casinocitytimes.com/news/article/plaza-hotel-and-casino-to-pay-your-taxes-on-april-18-217082

It can be found here at Gaming Today: http://www.gamingtoday.com/casino_games/video_casino/article/59670-Plaza_hits_jackpot_with_tax_savings#.VxGUU4-cEjY

And it can be found on the casinos own website prominently under, you guessed it, April promotions.

Now a few AP's have complained that the only machines worth attacking there, amount to four. I guarantee you, with all of the above exposure, if you thought those four machines were going to magically be open, that no one, particularly AP's, reads any of the above site nor the nationally distributed gambling magazines, that you guys are sorely disillusioned.

In fact, it would have been nothing short of ridiculous for this AP move to be listed on Anthony Curtis site, and Steve Bouries site and all the others - and NOT be listed or discussed on WOV.

I didn't put it up to ruin anyones move (trust me that was accomplished by all the other press). I did it to benefit the audience of WOV which comes here to learn of gambling opportunities.

We all have our secret moves. This was not one of them.

Good luck (I truly mean that) on all those who make to the Plaza for this promotion.

Apperantly not all AP'so knew about it. Mike didn't post about it.

We're you asked if you would remove it?

At that point did you complain it got flagged off?

Any reason why you wouldn't be respectful to other AP's and just let it go?


I know a few known AP's and darksiders that didn't know about it but now do. There were other good reasons not to post it here specifically.

By posting it here people start talking about all the different detailed ways to attack it and this site attracts more casino employees and narks.

Basically the casino gets an entire math lesson and road map to the play and what to look for if you are the casino.

Why keep spreading it. All them guys make money from their websites so they actually have a reason to post it... do you?
Last edited by: AxelWolf on Apr 15, 2016
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GWAE
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April 15th, 2016 at 7:34:07 PM permalink
I notice the promo says eligible machines. Who's to say they don't go making anything over .50 ineligible
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RS
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April 15th, 2016 at 7:39:50 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

There have been some people on here who have complained that I just ruined a great AP maneuver (they have sent me pm's in upset)

I would never give away an AP maneuver that was private and earned (for example those two guys who discovered the Poker double up bug).

The Plaza promotion however is neither a private nor an earned one (that is you didn't discover it through trial and error or your own diligence.) This offer was announced publicly through a press release from the casino, has been printed in gambling magazines across the country including ones being distributed in Atlantic City on the opposite coast.

Furthermore, it can be found announced on Steve Bouries site, American Casino Guide here: http://forum.americancasinoguide.com/casino-promotions/10887-plaza-hotel-casino-las-vegas-will-pay-your-jackpot-taxes-april-18-a-print.html

It can be found on Anthony Curtis gambling site (along with other tax day offers) here: http://vegasseven.com/2016/04/13/tax-day-deals/

It can be found here at CasinoCityTimes; http://www.casinocitytimes.com/news/article/plaza-hotel-and-casino-to-pay-your-taxes-on-april-18-217082

It can be found here at Gaming Today: http://www.gamingtoday.com/casino_games/video_casino/article/59670-Plaza_hits_jackpot_with_tax_savings#.VxGUU4-cEjY

And it can be found on the casinos own website prominently under, you guessed it, April promotions.

Now a few AP's have complained that the only machines worth attacking there, amount to four. I guarantee you, with all of the above exposure, if you thought those four machines were going to magically be open, that no one, particularly AP's, reads any of the above site nor the nationally distributed gambling magazines, that you guys are sorely disillusioned.

In fact, it would have been nothing short of ridiculous for this AP move to be listed on Anthony Curtis site, and Steve Bouries site and all the others - and NOT be listed or discussed on WOV.

I didn't put it up to ruin anyones move (trust me that was accomplished by all the other press). I did it to benefit the audience of WOV which comes here to learn of gambling opportunities.

We all have our secret moves. This was not one of them.

Good luck (I truly mean that) on all those who make to the Plaza for this promotion.



So how are the people on WOV gonna benefit from hearing about this? There's only a few select machines worth while....you think 20-50 or however many people will get a slice of the action? People don't need to be spoon-fed information if they're too damn lazy to do their own research. Posting about this benefits NO ONE, except for the few that actually get time on those machines....and chances are, the people who get time on those machines already knew about it.

So -- this benefits no one (except the casino).
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Ibeatyouraces
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April 15th, 2016 at 7:41:02 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

I notice the promo says eligible machines. Who's to say they don't go making anything over .50 ineligible


"Eligible jackpots" not machines.

Nice birthday month promo too. 3 times your age in free play.
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darkoz
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April 15th, 2016 at 7:55:55 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Apperantly not all AP'so knew about it. Mike didn't post about it.

We're you asked if you would remove it?

At that point did you complain it got flagged off?

Any reason why you wouldn't be respectful to other AP's and just let it go?


I know a few known AP's and darksiders that didn't know about it but now do. There were other good reasons not to post it here specifically.

By posting it here people start talking about all the different detailed ways to attack it and this site attracts more casino employees and narks.

Basically the casino gets an entire math lesson and road map to the play and what to look for if you are the casino.

Why keep spreading it. All them guys make money from their websites so they actually have a reason to post it... do you?



Its funny because you just answered the point of why to spread the (nationally distributed) info. People like Mike did not hear about it.

Your anger comes only from the fact that you knew about it previously. Had you not known about it, like Mike, then you would be thanking me for pointing you to a valuable promotion that you had missed all the announcements on.

In the end, your views are not supported by the management here at WOV. This is and has always been a website dedicated to gambling odds, strategy and AP opportunities. Mike still sees it that way! I see it that way.

Mission, has stated numerous times, he knows plays which he is privy to but committed to not outing. I, too, am in this position. But not mentioning a play that is directly advertised by the casino, the newspapers and other gambling sites is not something that the mods, the Wizard or myself can make any sense out of.
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AxelWolf
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April 15th, 2016 at 7:56:59 PM permalink
Quote: RogerKint

This play is over my head but I'm willing to hold seats in exchange for Louie Anderson tickets.

Tickets to his private room perhaps because I'm thinking he isn't at plaza now?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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