Keeneone
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April 15th, 2016 at 2:11:17 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard


8/5 Bonus -- $5 Denom

(Incorrect table removed because it was causing formatting problems)



-post edited down by me-

This Bonus Poker chart looks off on the pays for 4 5's-->K's. I do not know if this changes your calculations...
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Wizardofnothing
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April 15th, 2016 at 2:13:05 PM permalink
That's because it accounts for the free play
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Ibeatyouraces
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April 15th, 2016 at 2:22:53 PM permalink
Don't forget, free play can't be used on VP there.
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MathExtremist
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April 15th, 2016 at 2:47:40 PM permalink
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Here is a link to more information on this: Plaza Hotel and Casino to 'pay your taxes' on April 18.

I'd do just about anything to get the Plaza to pay my taxes, but I had a good year in 2015.

Speaking of taxes, I hope you got to treat the sale of WoV as a long term capital gain from property held in a trade or business, thereby avoiding both the regular income tax rate and the 3.8% NIIT. If you have a big number on line 62 of your 1040, it's worth double-checking with your accountant. You have until Monday...
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April 15th, 2016 at 3:16:22 PM permalink
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If I am not mistaken I think your numbers are wrong on 8/5 Bonus. Wouldn't only the royal, SF, and four aces get the bonus?



You're absolutely right. Thank you for the correction. I forgot to adjust the win for four 5-K after analyzing the double bonus games. I've amended the original post. The bottom line is return of 102.74%.

There is some good news. I forgot to mention they have 9-6 Double Double Bonus at the $5 denom. Here is a table for that.

Hand Pays Combinations Probability Return
Royal flush 1024 46,302,728 0.000028 0.028544
Straight flush 64 189,866,542 0.000114 0.007315
Four aces + 2-4 512 102,650,249 0.000062 0.031640
Four 2-4 + A-4 204.8 237,932,025 0.000143 0.029335
Four aces + 5-K 204.8 289,400,230 0.000174 0.035681
Four 2-4 + 5-K 102.4 638,537,018 0.000384 0.039363
Four 5-K 64 2,700,527,624 0.001626 0.104048
Full house 9 18,016,887,282 0.010846 0.097617
Flush 6 18,634,647,255 0.011218 0.067309
Straight 4 20,917,955,302 0.012593 0.050371
3 of a kind 3 124,848,084,877 0.075160 0.225479
Two pair 1 204,242,089,851 0.122956 0.122956
Jacks or better 1 349,218,664,035 0.210233 0.210233
Nothing 0 921,018,998,082 0.554462 0.000000
Total 1,661,102,543,100 1.000000 1.049891
Last edited by: Wizard on Apr 15, 2016
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April 15th, 2016 at 3:19:53 PM permalink
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Don't forget, free play can't be used on VP there.



According to vpfree2.com, "Free play cannot be downloaded on most video poker machines, but OK at Sportsbook Bar. However, I've known that site to be outdated lots of times."
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April 15th, 2016 at 3:23:50 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard



By the way, I'm quite sure the player has to pay the tax on the 28%.



I would be very surprised if that was the case. Freeplay is generally not taxed.
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Ibeatyouraces
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April 15th, 2016 at 3:30:25 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

According to vpfree2.com, "Free play cannot be downloaded on most video poker machines, but OK at Sportsbook Bar. However, I've known that site to be outdated lots of times."


We checked every machine last summer. Not one accepted it.
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April 15th, 2016 at 3:32:59 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

I would be very surprised if that was the case. Freeplay is generally not taxed.



I forgot the 28% was in free play.
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teddys
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April 15th, 2016 at 3:38:14 PM permalink
With only four $5 machines, it will be a real dogfight to get on. I would start playing at least four or five hours before 11:59 PM on Sunday. Hopefully there is a lower denomination on those machines so you can cut losses while waiting. Or play one credit at a time, sloooowwwly . . .

Of course there are probably other opportunities that some people on the board probably do not want revealed.
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