End of the road for Lake Mead??
Shocking Nasa Images show Lake Mead Water Loss! - Vegas Dtech - 26.2K subscribers - Jul 22, 2022 - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww4GEEeWRko
Mexico Declares State Of Emergency Over Worsening Drought - NBC News - Jul 27, 2022 - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMQMJ1dpCR0
Third Intake Documentary - Mar 15, 2016 - YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi-W5hcRN4E
Quote: ChumpChangeNo more water for you until winter!
Shocking Nasa Images show Lake Mead Water Loss! - Vegas Dtech - 26.2K subscribers - Jul 22, 2022 - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww4GEEeWRko
Very interesting how a couple narrow points make the problem even worse. I still think the real danger is that it is not a "drought" but just a return to the long term average rain and snowfall. The overpopulation of the southwest is not helping storage, either.
https://nypost.com/2022/07/29/las-vegas-flooding-multiple-casinos-entire-strip-airport-under-water-amid-storm
Circa sports book flooded:
solves water drought problem?
or storm was too far from Lake Mead?
Quote: 100xOdds
solves water drought problem?
or storm was too far from Lake Mead?
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Water levels up 0.03 feet since yesterday according to
https://mead.uslakes.info/level.asp
Footage of catastrophic floods in Kentucky! Heavy rain caused historic flooding in Kentucky - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mzBrAOA03A
Footage of St Louis, Missouri flooding today! It has never happened before! - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMMDtjAa5Pc
Is there much coverage of this, i..e. tunnel rats dying in storms?
Some of them live really far inside and I don't see how they could get out in time.
Quote: ChumpChangeBanks will go bust with the glut of abandoned cities as the water gets turned off.
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You really believe this?
Quote: bobbartopI've been watching youtube videos galore about the Lake Meed issue for months now, from the comfort of California's central valley. I've talked to friends in Vegas, they are not overly concerned. How can they not be overly concerned? It looks like a catastrophe coming. Really makes me want to buy a house in Vegas in my senior years. No water in a desert town, and Paul Volker style nosebleed interest rates. Where do I sign up?
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People are in denial and that's why they're not showing concern.
What Realtor or real estate developer would advertise water problems?
Vegas is a house of cards waiting to collapse and it will take Southern California with it. (Excuse the cards pun.)
Too bad "the powers that be" can't get their collective acts together and figure out how to ship some of the excess south.
Quote: MrVWe have a lot of water up north, in the Columbia.
Too bad "the powers that be" can't get their collective acts together and figure out how to ship some of the excess south.
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They know how to do it, but it costs too much.
The Mississippi Aqueduct would require pumping water 6,000 feet up through the Rockies.
The first house of cards to collapse will probably be Florida, though their water issues are a very different type.Quote: AlanMendelson[
What Realtor or real estate developer would advertise water problems?
Vegas is a house of cards waiting to collapse and it will take Southern California with it. (Excuse the cards pun.)
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As I recall, many major carriers won’t even insure a house there
Quote: Ace2The first house of cards to collapse will probably be Florida, though their water issues are a very different type.Quote: AlanMendelson[
What Realtor or real estate developer would advertise water problems?
Vegas is a house of cards waiting to collapse and it will take Southern California with it. (Excuse the cards pun.)
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As I recall, many major carriers won’t even insure a house there
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I moved to SWFL a couple of years ago. Initially, insurers told me they weren't interested in insuring my home. But when I told them it was new construction, they were eager to insure it. And it's only $800 per year. I live 3.5 miles from the gulf, 10' above sea level.
The age of the roof is critical. And the style of the roof too- hip roof (good), gable roof (bad).
Quote: ChumpChangeBanks will go bust with the glut of abandoned cities as the water gets turned off.
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Always the optimist, right CC?
tuttigym
I'm mistaken. Apparently it was found on Monday.
Quote: DieterQuote: 100xOdds
solves water drought problem?
or storm was too far from Lake Mead?
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Water levels up 0.03 feet since yesterday according to
https://mead.uslakes.info/level.asp
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Another +0.11 feet.
If it keeps raining on the desert for a few more years...
There are several reasons for that. Probably No. 1 is that the Valley Water District promotes quite prominently that it recycles 90 to 99 percent of the water used inside places like homes and hotels and offices. That, of course is against the larger statement is that Lake Mead is the top source of water in southern Nevada. All of that is being affected by the new agreement just reached with the southern California water authority for some sort of pipeline between the two jurisdictions.
Quote: ChumpChangeDidn't Nevada and New Mexico just declare they only have 50 days of drinking water left?
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I doubt that, I was in Costco and Sam's Club and they had pallets of water stacked to the roof.
MARK FRAUENFELDER 11:34 AM FRI JUL 29, 2022
https://boingboing.net/2022/07/29/las-vegas-says-it-only-has-50-days-of-clean-water-before-it-runs-out-also-the-city-is-flooded.html
The city of Las Vegas has declared an emergency over its water supply after the Calf Canyon-Hermits Peak Fire, the largest wildfire in New Mexico history, contaminated the Gallinas River. The city relies solely on water from the river, which has been tainted with large amounts of fire-related debris and ash, according to city officials.
The large amounts of ash and turbidity in the river have prevented the city from being able to pull water from it, as the city's municipal water treatment facility is not able to treat the contaminated water, according to the mayor.
President Joe Biden issued a major disaster declarations for the New Mexico counties of Colfax, Mora and San Miguel on May 4.
The fire resulted in the loss of federal, state, local, tribal and private property including thousands of acres of the watershed for the Gallinas River, the primary source of municipal water for the city and surrounding areas, according to the emergency declaration.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/las-vegas-declares-emergency-50-days-clean-water/story?id=87623219
Quote: Ace2The first house of cards to collapse will probably be Florida, though their water issues are a very different type.Quote: AlanMendelson[
What Realtor or real estate developer would advertise water problems?
Vegas is a house of cards waiting to collapse and it will take Southern California with it. (Excuse the cards pun.)
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As I recall, many major carriers won’t even insure a house there
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No private insurer will offer a policy on flood damage. This is why the Federal government offers the National Flood Insurance Program.
Florida is only a few feet above sea level.
In California the problem is wild fires so theres a state program to offer certain homes fire insurance.
There is also a state program for earthquake insurance because few companies still offer it in California.
There is one threat which cannot get insurance for -- and it's not space aliens or meteors wiping out your home.
That one threat is a nuclear meltdown. No one offers that insurance.
A flying saucer crashing into your house can be insured, but not a nuclear reactor melting down.
Quote: DRichQuote: ChumpChangeDidn't Nevada and New Mexico just declare they only have 50 days of drinking water left?
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I doubt that, I was in Costco and Sam's Club and they had pallets of water stacked to the roof.
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Water is much more affordable coming from a faucet than a single use polyethylene package - the pricing is usually around a penny per gallon vs around a dollar per gallon.
I think Quantum of Solace mentioned the importance of affordable water in the desert.
thee's a Vegas, NM?!Quote: ChumpChangeLas Vegas, NM says it only has 50 days of clean water before it runs out.link to original post
WHY would a town in nm name itself that?!?!
You can even get insurance for a 7 being rolled by betting Big RedQuote: AlanMendelson
There is one threat which cannot get insurance for -- and it's not space aliens or meteors wiping out your home.
That one threat is a nuclear meltdown. No one offers that insurance.
A flying saucer crashing into your house can be insured, but not a nuclear reactor melting down.
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Quote:Washing windows and tiled floors. A/C condensate is also the logical choice for outdoor chores like washing patio floors and garden paving, your car, and garden furniture.
Flushing toilets.
Washing clothes, especially delicate hand-washables.
And plants like it. Whether you have a few potted plants on a sunny windowsill or an entire vegetable garden, go ahead and water your plants with a/c condensate. We have several of our units dripping right into the garden.
Quote: 100xOddsthee's a Vegas, NM?!Quote: ChumpChangeLas Vegas, NM says it only has 50 days of clean water before it runs out.link to original post
WHY would a town in nm name itself that?!?!
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Why should they change their name when’s a city founded after them in a different state has the same?
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No private insurer will offer a policy on flood damage. This is why the Federal government offers the National Flood Insurance Program.
I live in Florida and where I live there is lots of water running through the city. Almost everyplace requires private flood insurance if you have a mortgage.
oh, it's the other way around?Quote: mcallister3200Quote: 100xOddsthee's a Vegas, NM?!Quote: ChumpChangeLas Vegas, NM says it only has 50 days of clean water before it runs out.link to original post
WHY would a town in nm name itself that?!?!
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Why should they change their name when’s a city founded after them in a different state has the same?
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Quote: AlanMendelsonThere is one threat which cannot get insurance for -- and it's not space aliens or meteors wiping out your home.
That one threat is a nuclear meltdown. No one offers that insurance.
A flying saucer crashing into your house can be insured, but not a nuclear reactor melting down.
Yes, and no.
Yes, no private company offers a homeowner the opportunity to buy a private insurance policy to insure against a nuclear accident.
No, that does NOT mean there is no coverage.
The Price-Anderson Act set up a mandatory requirement that all reactor owners contribute toward a pool to provide a fund to pay out damages in the event of a nuclear accident.
The Act prohibits private insurers from offering private coverage, presumably because it is not deemed to be necessary.
see: https://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/fact-sheets/nuclear-insurance.html
Quote: DRichQuote: AlanMendelson
No private insurer will offer a policy on flood damage. This is why the Federal government offers the National Flood Insurance Program.
I live in Florida and where I live there is lots of water running through the city. Almost everyplace requires private flood insurance if you have a mortgage.
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Automobile "comprehensive" physical damage coverage covers flood damage. (In the policy coverages section called "collision" and "comprehensive.")
Mobil Homeowners Insurance, I believe, covers flood damage, at least it used to be one of the standard coverages.
tuttigym
Apparently there are no cost estimates. Has anyone seen any cost estimates?
The cost is very likely prohibitively expensive since you have to also account for possible water rights downstream of the inlet.
Quote: AitchTheLetterYes, lets rob Peter to pay Paul.
The cost is very likely prohibitively expensive since you have to also account for possible water rights downstream of the inlet.
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Absolutely! That right there is the reason that most such giant water projects are federally owned. They are the hammer that can make the rightsholders offers they can't refuse.
Quote: BillHasRetiredQuote: AitchTheLetterYes, lets rob Peter to pay Paul.
The cost is very likely prohibitively expensive since you have to also account for possible water rights downstream of the inlet.
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Absolutely! That right there is the reason that most such giant water projects are federally owned. They are the hammer that can make the rightsholders offers they can't refuse.
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They’re only offers they can’t refuse because they’ll just take it by eminent domain if they do refuse.
The issue of construction costs is real including the cost of pumping the water thru the Rockies.
One estimate I saw is that aqueducts can cost up to $11-million per mile to build and the trip is 1,400 miles plus the cost of the pumps.
I would think getting rights of way and building bridges over the aqueduct need to be considered.
Quote: AlanMendelsonFrom what I have read there is a surplus of water that flows down the Mississippi and the surplus is diverted thru other smaller rivers to the Gulf. So I'm thinking water rights is a non issue.
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For now.
Nature has a funny way of curbing man's hubris.
Quote: DRichIf the water goes away, move to where there is water. Very simple.
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That’s the plot of Mad Max Fury Road ain’t it?
Shipping water from out of the SW is possible, but exactly how feasible would it be?
Let them figure it out.
https://www.lvvwd.com/water-system/where-your-water-comes-from/index.html#:~:text=Southern%20Nevada%20gets%20nearly%2090,Gulf%20of%20California%20in%20Mexico.
