likeplayingcrapsandbj
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June 9th, 2010 at 7:19:21 AM permalink
I say within 5 years las vegas will have:
1. lowered the gambling age to 18
2. prostituion will be legal on the strip, maybe even brothels in hotels
3. hotels will be almost free
4. food will be expensive
5. shows will be expensive
6. table minimun will be high
7. all casinos will have party pits/nude
8. strip joints in casinos
9. children not allowed in or near casinos
10. more automation of games
11. everybody will have casino host no matter minimum bet
12. customer service will be priority
13. the focus is back to adult entertainment
14. comps come from pit boss and casino host not from points
15. travel expense subsidised by casino to get you there
16. small entertainment lounges with singers/performers that you can visit without a cover in casino
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Nareed
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June 9th, 2010 at 7:41:10 AM permalink
I say 5 of your points (4, 5, 7, 10 and 13) are very likely. The rest are unlikely or, in the case of 3 and 14, whatever the superlative is for unlikely. 13 in fact is already reality: the focus is back on adult entertainment.

Points 1 and 2 are also highly unlikely. But we may see a lax enforcement of both.
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pacomartin
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June 9th, 2010 at 7:42:40 AM permalink
1. lowered the gambling age to 18 (lot of resistance to this idea)
2. prostituion will be legal (have to change state law which will be unlikely)
3. hotels will be almost free (Never. Rooms are very important. Cheap rooms invite as many free loaders as gamblers)
4. food will be expensive (there will always be cheap options)
5. shows will be expensive (well yea)
6. table minimun will be high (there will be more electronic options)
7. all casinos will have party pits/nude (no way)
8. strip joints in casinos (more nudity in shows, but not strip joints)
9. children not allowed in or near casinos (won't change)
10. more automation of games (of course)
11. everybody will have casino host no matter minimum bet (not everybody)
12. customer service will be priority
13. the focus is back to adult entertainment (not sure)
14. comps come from pit boss and casino host not from points (never)
15. travel expense subsidised by casino to get you there (DesertXpress will be widely subsidized)
16. small entertainment lounges with singers/performers that you can visit without a cover in casino (not so much)
FleaStiff
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June 9th, 2010 at 8:14:00 AM permalink
1. lowered the gambling age to 18 (lot of resistance to this idea) Yes. Lots of resistance, so maybe six years?
2. prostitution will be legal .. No, its just too major a drain.
3. hotels will be almost free. Heck, many are free now. Freeloaders? Some places are desperate for any HOPE of action.
4. food will be expensive. No.
5. shows will be expensive. Not sure.
6. table minimum will be high. There will always be three tiers. There always is. In all things. At all times.
7. all casinos will have party pits/nude. No. Market differentiation will always be a strong drive.
8. strip joints in casinos. No. You can look at a pole dancer while gambling, but a strip joint lowers the drop.
9. children not allowed in or near casinos. Offsite child care perhaps, but arcades, movies, etc. will always be there. It may be foolish to bring kids to Vegas, but mothers will always be foolish.
10. more automation of games... If so, whats the difference between online and in-Vegas?
11. everybody will have casino host no matter minimum bet... Probably not, but hosts will have real discretion!
12. customer service will be priority... In the best casinos it always will be.
13. the focus is back to adult entertainment. Adult as opposed to kid friendly, yes. All Nude All The Time = No!
14. comps come from pit boss and casino host not from points. No."points" or "the computer" make a good intermediary.
15. travel expense subsidized by casino to get you there... Did the casinos ever subsidize the airlines? Should have!
16. small entertainment lounges with singers/performers that you can visit without a cover in casino. Yes. Soft jazz as a refuge and a meeting place/dating place always helps a casino's drop. Gamblers have real lives, friends, social activities... only fleas stay at the tables ALL the time.
justbrent
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June 9th, 2010 at 8:24:12 AM permalink
Travel expenses are already subsidized by casinos, although I'm not sure of the details of how it works. For example, if you go to the U.S. Airways travel site and price airfare only, and then price the cost of airfare plus lodging at a casino hotel, the cost of airfare plus hotel will almost always be less than the price of airfare only. There's only one explanation for this phenomenon: the casino hotels are provide some type of consideration to U.S. Airways to bring visitors to Las Vegas and have them stay (and play) at their hotels.

High table minimums are not necessarily good business. Forcing someone to plunk down $25 a bet may just cause them to play less. If I'm facing the possibly of losing $100 in 10 minutes, I'm not going to play, so the casino gets none of my money. But if I'm facing the possibility of losing $100 in an hour at a $5 minimum table, I probably will play. There are all kinds of players, and there will always be different levels of gambling to give casinos a shot at everyone's money.

The legalization of prostitution isn't going to happen any time soon, if at all. There was a movement in early 2009 to create a pilot program of a few legalized brothels in the Las Vegas and it died in the state legislature. The reason is actually pretty simple. Although many Las Vegas politicians are open to the idea, the smaller counties are not for it because it, either because they are extremely conservative (there are a fair number of Mormons in rural Nevada) or because legalized brothels in Las Vegas would threaten the tax revenues of their own brothels.

The customer service issue is similar to the the table minimum issue. Some people are willing to pay higher prices for fawning customer service at their hotel and play higher minimums to be treated like royalty at a casino. Other people want to spend less on lodging and play lower minimums and don't mind if they don't get a sewing kit in the bathroom or if they can't get free top shelf drinks while playing blackjack.

The real change that I think you will see in Vegas over the next 5 years (and its largely already happened) is that there will be a lot less extravagant building projects and a lot more sprucing up what's already there. Hopefully, there will also be some more fiscal responsibility. "Build it and they will come" is probably not going to work very well for at least another decade.
DJTeddyBear
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June 9th, 2010 at 8:30:56 AM permalink
You've got a lot of hopes and dreams, but they are based on what you hope will happen, not what is likely to happen.


1. lowered the gambling age to 18
Not until the drinking limit is returned to 18 (which is also unlikely)

2. prostituion will be legal on the strip, maybe even brothels in hotels
Legal? Considering how the law its almost ignored now, there is no need or push to legalize.

3. hotels will be almost free
They're ALREADY almost free. And that free ride can't last forever. Room rates will eventually return to normal.

4. food will be expensive
It's not expensive now?

5. shows will be expensive
Ditto. It's not expensive now?

6. table minimun will be high
Competition will prevent the limits from rising much.

7. all casinos will have party pits/nude
Wishful thinking, but doubt it.

8. strip joints in casinos
Not if the Rio's experience with the topless pool, co-owned by a strip club is any indicator.

9. children not allowed in or near casinos
They've always been excluded.

10. more automation of games
Well you finally hit an easy prediction.

11. everybody will have casino host no matter minimum bet
Although most people don't avail themselves of the host, almost all players already have a host.

12. customer service will be priority
It's already a priority - just not always successful.

13. the focus is back to adult entertainment
You're kinda stuck on that theme, aren't you?

14. comps come from pit boss and casino host not from points
That's already the case for some casinos and players.

15. travel expense subsidised by casino to get you there
That's already the case for many casinos and players.

16. small entertainment lounges with singers/performers that you can visit without a cover in casino
They already exist.
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DJTeddyBear
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June 9th, 2010 at 8:40:41 AM permalink
I had an expeerience yesterday that confirms two of my points:
Quote: DJTeddyBear

3. hotels will be almost free
They're ALREADY almost free. And that free ride can't last forever. Room rates will eventually return to normal.

11. everybody will have casino host no matter minimum bet
Although most people don't avail themselves of the host, almost all players already have a host.


As you may know, I'm coming to Vegas in September.

Yesterday, I discovered that I my reservations at Imperial Palace were for 9/19 to 9/24. Except I need 9/19 to 9/25.

All nights are free, except Tuesday, for $40.

So I checked online and found that there are new rates. The rate for Tuesday was lowered to $27. The rate for Friday is $40. Other nights are still free.

I can't change the reservation online, so I call, expecting to pay $40 for Friday, and hoping I can change the rate for Tuesday.

What actually happened?

I told the reservation clerk that I needed to add Friday. Without me saying anything else, she changed Tuesday's rate to $27, then, also without my asking, transferred me to a host. The host looked at my reservation, didn't ask me anything, but merely commented that he sees that I'm looking to add Friday night, etc. Again, without me saying anything, he gave me Friday for free.

If that doesn't confirm those two points, what does?
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