Discussion about the Suspension List
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13Oh, fallout. Ok. Nevermind then.
I personally think you should be nuked from the forum for your targeted harassment of me.
Quote: avargovQuote: WizardQuote: MrVQuote: WizardCheck rules 3 and 10.
It seems to me to be a bit of a stretch.
Just goes to show that no matter what I do, I get criticized.
Mike, this precisely why I don't post much anymore. Seems anything and everything posted these days is just waiting to be pounced on by a select few members. I just read for entertainment now and keep to myself.
I agree too. WIZARD doesn't fix this problem.
Quote: AhighI personally think you should be nuked from the forum for your targeted harassment of me.
get used to it on here, everybody gets harassed for no reason from few people regulars on here.
Quote: Beethoven9thSounds like he was selling something:
you are bully BEE. i read your posts everywhere and you are harass many people here like bully.
Quote: AxelWolfI would have went If he was willing to Bet some money on his system. However I don't know how often a progressive betting system should work VS how often it will fail. I only know it fails in the long run... I use progressive betting systems occasionally online when using bonuses or dealing with wagering requirements. Is there some kind of chart One can look at that have the various percentages of success using progressive betting systems like martingale ? In short sessions I believe it has a high rate of success if you walk away when you are a head a few units.
Be careful when saying those words ON HIS SYSTEM AXELWOLF. You might get banned for this soliciting. Especially saying this on Vegas forum
Quote: MrVQuote: Wizardvermenti -- soliciting -- second time offender -- 14 day suspension.
"Soliciting?"
I don't see that proscribed behavior listed in the Forum Rules.
Perhaps I overlooked it?
It's not "free advertising," per se, as in context it seems that he made the offer only to prove a point.
As for "Keep it Legal:" his offer seems to be no more illegal than the bets escrowed / made between members on this site.
Which would seem to leave "Betting systems;" it seems to me that that would be a stretch.
Curious.
looks like same thing in relation to WIZARD and MISSION with Macdonald foods.
looks like soliciting in this forum but they do not suspend each other. how does the other people get away with broken rules and they are still here.
Quote: MrVIt's all about context.
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True, just reading the guy's posts makes me grate my teeth and want to punch something, but if that were cause for suspension the board's most prolific poster would have been consigned to Davy Jones' locker long ago.
1) He posted a message in the "Mission: Nuggets" thread offering to book bets against Mission while giving up 3-1 odds. But as soon as 3 people agreed to the bet, he rescinded the offer.
2) He then said that he would pay a total of $1,000 to ten members if Mission eats 100 McNuggets, and also stated that he would send the Wizard $1,000 to hold until 12/21. But, of course, he canceled that one, too.
3) He continually said that people are welcome to watch him play baccarat at Fallsview Casino in Canada, but as soon as a member took him up on the offer, he posted at least 3 messages telling the member to give him $5,000.
If anything, this guy deserves to get nuked, not left alone.
The Wizard's ENTIRE website is all about how to get the best deal gambling in Vegas. And he doesn't charge anything.
Why does ANYONE need to pay someone to learn how to lose less money?
Even if you paid someone to learn how to advantage play, I would think that an apprenticeship would be the way to go. That was the teacher has incentive to teach you how to make money so that you can both share in the spoils. You shouldn't have to pay someone who knows how to make money with advantage plays at the casino IMO. Work for them while you're learning, I can understand. Pay them while you get taught many things you can learn elsewhere, bad idea to me personally.
But yeah, I took his post as something like this:
Quote: Beethoven9thI know it's different, I'm just giving other examples of varmenti's questionable conduct.
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And what do you know, as soon as varmenti is suspended, another member (who happened to register at about the same time as varmenti & who has posted only in baccarat threads) pops up to defend him. *headshake*
he and his wife played my table today and he mentioned you are his favorite bully. BEETHOVEN9TH
Quote: Beethoven9thGuess varmenti has found a workaround. ;)
I read maybe just a few of your posts and you should stop butchering varmenti. these people are very nice people and do not need to be butchered from you.
Quote: Beethoven9thAnd what do you know, as soon as varmenti is suspended, another member (who happened to register at about the same time as varmenti & who has posted only in baccarat threads) pops up to defend him. *headshake*
Me thinks he does protest to much.
Quote: Beethoven9thHe has been offering to meet with people at Fallsview for a while now, so he wasn't being sarcastic.
Beethoven9th
Member since: Jul 30, 2012
why do you treat people badly on here? you are a new member I see.
Quote: petroglyphMe thinks he does protest to much.
Just an observation, not a protestation. :)
Quote:Hello, for once I have to disagree with WIZARD.
you made an error in judgement, they butched varmenti in his own thread. the members pushed his buttons and after reading his posts, I see the 5000 was deposit and 5 days of gambling totaling 5000 plus profit is return to the NOVICEGAMBLER.
After reading even more it was NOVICEGAMBLER who was soliciting varmenti by offering him 15000.
Sorry WIZARD but you are wrong.
You should answer to the butcher guys on here.
varmenti sits my table with his sweet wife when they play and they are very sweet couples. they don't deserve treatment here like this.
Hey Lilchef62 - I made a bet with Varmenti, I wasn't selling anything. And if you have read the thread you would notice I have offered the bet after he wated to charge me $5000
Quote: novicegamblerHey Lilchef62 - I made a bet with Varmenti, I wasn't selling anything. And if you have read the thread you would notice I have offered the bet after he wated to charge me $5000
I am sorry but I have to defend him and his wife, i don't know what you are bragging about but these people are so nice. Yes they lose money when they played my table tonight but did not stay long and they have smiles when they come to my table before leaving to say goodnight to me personally.
you people just butcher his gaming ways. Yes i too think they bet wrongly but they have much fun every time i see them. I defend them in many ways. They are good people.
Quote: Lilchef62Yes they lose money when they played my table tonight ... Yes i too think they bet wrongly
I'll bite.
They bet "wrongly."
Please explain how to bet "correctly."
Quote: Lilchef62I am sorry but I have to defend him and his wife, i don't know what you are bragging about but these people are so nice. Yes they lose money when they played my table tonight but did not stay long and they have smiles when they come to my table before leaving to say goodnight to me personally.
you people just butcher his gaming ways. Yes i too think they bet wrongly but they have much fun every time i see them. I defend them in many ways. They are good people.
You should please go ahead and read what my first post was. Varmenti had posed on the forum that he would like people to come and watch him play and posted his number. I called him couple of times and no response. Hence I posted on the forum and asked him when he would like to meet. Thats when he started behaving shady and said first he cant meet on Tuesday coz of some Apple event and then started asking for $5000 deposit.
If he didnt wanna meet he could have just said I dont want to meet and matter closed. But he didnt say that, so please read the thread before you post somethng about it
And I have never mentioned that he is a bad person, he just lies about a lot of things. If you read I had also said that I was looking forward to meet him but I finally lost interest coz of his behavior
Quote: MrVI'll bite.
They bet "wrongly."
Please explain how to bet "correctly."
The compete with each other, wife does not like to pay the commission and he plays only the bank. they are always happy and sometimes I too shake my head, but they are very sweet.
Quote: MrVI'll bite.
They bet "wrongly."
Please explain how to bet "correctly."
FISH ON!!! Couldn't resist sorry.
Quote: rainmanFISH ON!!! Couldn't resist sorry.
That's cool.
Give a man a fish, and he'll cook it for supper.
Teach a man to fish, and he'll buy a bass boat.
Quote: Lilchef62I am sorry but I have to defend him and his wife, i don't know what you are bragging about but these people are so nice. Yes they lose money when they played my table tonight but did not stay long and they have smiles when they come to my table before leaving to say goodnight to me personally.
you people just butcher his gaming ways. Yes i too think they bet wrongly but they have much fun every time i see them. I defend them in many ways. They are good people.
Hi, Lilchef62. The criticism directed at varmenti was all about his betting system and his refusal to even try to understand its weaknesses. People on this forum tried to point out the weaknesses to him, but varmenti has refused to listen. Rob45 even tested it manually with the expected results: it doesn't work. Varmenti's response was basically that rob45 wasn't doing it right. Varmenti also claimed that his system only works in the casino, and that no computer simulation can realistically portray baccarat results, an assertion which is utterly wrong.
Varmenti has made several wild assertions which have called into question his credibility. For example, he has insisted repeatedly that he's been winning for the past several months to the tune of $500 - $1,000 EVERY DAY with a buy-in of only $500. He also claims that with his system, he can lose 75% of the hands, win 25% and walk away a winner. Since you are apparently a baccarat dealer and have dealt to him, can you tell us if varmenti's claims of being a consistent daily winner are true? Has he been winning $500 - $1,000 every day he plays?
varmint in Fallsview all the time. On the other side is
novicegambler who in the last 5 months hasn't seen a
5' 5" guy looking like Varmenti playing bac even once.
I wonder which one is more credible. My money is on
novicegambler.
Gimme a break!!
Quote: Beethoven9thSo let me get this straight. I'm supposed to believe that Lilchef62 is either a dealer or player at Fallsview, that he befriended varmenti at the baccarat table, that he heard about how "mean" everyone on WoV was to varmenti, and that he has now taken it upon himself to come to this forum to defend varmenti's honor???
Gimme a break!!
And he misspells the same words as Varmint. Amazing.
Quote: PaboHi, Lilchef62. The criticism directed at varmenti was all about his betting system and his refusal to even try to understand its weaknesses. People on this forum tried to point out the weaknesses to him, but varmenti has refused to listen. Rob45 even tested it manually with the expected results: it doesn't work. Varmenti's response was basically that rob45 wasn't doing it right. Varmenti also claimed that his system only works in the casino, and that no computer simulation can realistically portray baccarat results, an assertion which is utterly wrong.
Varmenti has made several wild assertions which have called into question his credibility. For example, he has insisted repeatedly that he's been winning for the past several months to the tune of $500 - $1,000 EVERY DAY with a buy-in of only $500. He also claims that with his system, he can lose 75% of the hands, win 25% and walk away a winner. Since you are apparently a baccarat dealer and have dealt to him, can you tell us if varmenti's claims of being a consistent daily winner are true? Has he been winning $500 - $1,000 every day he plays?
I do admit to watching his style of play and I do not understand it to defend him on the way he and his wife like to play.
I see many players approach the table with many styles of play. I do notice his way of play does hold water because they keep playing the same way when they visit. I do know when they play they do not stay long.
I've only started seeing the couple play there maybe a month or so. Many other dealers also enjoy them as they are quite fun.
The buy in is close to the amount you've mentioned but they do not stay long. maybe 15-20 minutes and then cash out.
Quote: Lilchef62I do admit to watching his style of play and I do not understand it to defend him on the way he and his wife like to play.
I see many players approach the table with many styles of play. I do notice his way of play does hold water because they keep playing the same way when they visit. I do know when they play they do not stay long.
Thanks, Lilchef62. I appreciate your taking the time to respond. My question, though, is does he win all the time? $500 - $1,000 EVERY DAY? Every dealer should have a prettty good idea of how much a gambler has won or lost whenever he or she leaves the table. Is varmenti a consistent winner?
Quote: Lilchef62I do admit to watching his style of play and I do not understand it to defend him on the way he and his wife like to play.
I see many players approach the table with many styles of play. I do notice his way of play does hold water because they keep playing the same way when they visit. I do know when they play they do not stay long.
I've only started seeing the couple play there maybe a month or so. Many other dealers also enjoy them as they are quite fun.
The buy in is close to the amount you've mentioned but they do not stay long. maybe 15-20 minutes and then cash out.
I thought Varmenti had been playing there for months and months at Fallsview. ANd based on his posts he mention how he plays from 10 am to 12:00 in the night from 10pm to 2am, while you are saying he cashes out in 10-15mins.
Anyways I hope to see all of you there tomooro while Varmenti is supposedly there to catch the streak in the new shoe at 10
Quote: PaboThanks, Lilchef62. I appreciate your taking the time to respond. My question, though, is does he win all the time? $500 - $1,000 EVERY DAY? Every dealer should have a prettty good idea of how much a gambler has won or lost whenever he or she leaves the table. Is varmenti a consistent winner?
I've only started seeing the couple play there maybe a month or so. Many other dealers also enjoy them as they are quite fun.
The buy in is close to the amount you've mentioned but they do not stay long. maybe 15-20 minutes and then cash out.
I'm not sure if they made what they claim as when they left my table was shortly after 15-20 minutes but did not show much of winnings. There are far too many players for any of us to keep track on, I only recall them as a very happy couple win or lose.
I can not say varmenti a consistent winner because i don't follow his playing. I just deal cards.
Quote: Lilchef62I've only started seeing the couple play there maybe a month or so. Many other dealers also enjoy them as they are quite fun.
The buy in is close to the amount you've mentioned but they do not stay long. maybe 15-20 minutes and then cash out.
I'm not sure if they made what they claim as when they left my table was shortly after 15-20 minutes but did not show much of winnings. There are far too many players for any of us to keep track on, I only recall them as a very happy couple win or lose.
I can not say varmenti a consistent winner because i don't follow his playing. I just deal cards.
gr8Lilchef62,
Does Fallsview know that you go to internet forums to talk about players? lol
*Of course, we all know this is BS. No dealer would ever log on to a public forum to talk about a player.
Quote: Beethoven9thgr8Lilchef62,
Does Fallsview know that you go to internet forums to talk about players? lol
*Of course, we all know this is BS. No dealer would ever log on to a public forum to talk about a player.
Do I bother you?
Quote: gr8Lilchef62Do I bother you?
No, you entertain me. lol
Quote: Beethoven9thNo, you entertain me. lol
I don't think I like to entertain you BEE.
Quote: Lilchef62WIZARD. people are so bad on here. you need to fix this. This is becoming very ridiculous after reading posts from certain people that bully here and no suspend.
How long have you been here, three minutes?
Quote: Lilchef62he and his wife played my table today and he mentioned you are his favorite bully. BEETHOVEN9TH
Trolling, one week.
You just called him a bully a few posts prior.
Quote: EvenBobAnd he misspells the same words as Varmint. Amazing.
Uh oh! Bob is now putting Mission/Wiz in a tight spot! Clear personal insult! I am guessing Bob gets a week suspension for personal insult! Unless Bob says he 'misspelled Varmenti by accident!'
Mission, is there an exact number of suspensions that the HotBlonde Challenge thread generated? I am guessing the Baccarat Partner Betting thread may supplant it as suspension leader.....
LOLQuote: BozThe Coke made him smile like that!
To all: Is this not the best Robin Williams impression you've ever heard?
https://wizardofvegas.com/member/varmenti/threads/ *
Interestingly, I also just noticed that member 'jamesbond007' has his lone thread rated 5 stars by 6 people as well. And nuked member 'Martyman' also has a thread which was rated 5 stars. All of gr8player's threads have a rating, too.
Are all these guys connected somehow? Hmm...the plot thickens...
OTOH, take a look at my threads. I laughed my a** off when I noticed that somebody actually went through all 42 of my threads and rated them all 1 star. Not even EvenBob has this distinction! LOL!
*See specifically his "I have a winning system but I don't know how to properly prove it. Any suggestions?" and "Brand New US Hundred Dollar Bill released into Circulation TODAY." (5 stars each by 6 people!)
Quote: Beethoven9thHmm...I found that many of varmenti's threads are rated relatively high. (Two are even rated 5 stars with 6 votes each):
https://wizardofvegas.com/member/varmenti/threads/ *
Interestingly, I also just noticed that member 'jamesbond007' has his lone thread rated 5 stars by 6 people as well. And nuked member 'Martyman' also has a thread which was rated 5 stars. All of gr8player's threads have a rating, too.
Are all these guys connected somehow? Hmm...
OTOH, take a look at my threads. I laughed my a** off when I noticed that somebody actually went through all 42 of my threads and rated them all 1 star. Not even EvenBob has this distinction! LOL!
*See specifically his "I have a winning system but I don't know how to properly prove it. Any suggestions?" and "Brand New US Hundred Dollar Bill released into Circulation TODAY." (5 stars each by 6 people!)
Same thing has happened to me, and to Mission. Probably others, too.
LOL!Quote: rdw4potusSame thing has happened to me, and to Mission. Probably others, too.
Looks like some member(s) went back only so far with Mission's threads, but all of yours were given the big 0, too! :D
Hopefully, one of the admins can go back and view who downgraded our threads and also who rated all of the threads by varmenti, gr8player, jamesbond007, and Martyman.
Not that either of us really cares, but it could give the admins some insight into who the pesky gremlins may be.
Quote: Beethoven9thHopefully, one of the admins can go back and view who downgraded our threads and also who rated all of the threads by varmenti, gr8player, jamesbond007, and Martyman.
Unfortunately, we don't have that ability. Still, I agree a conspiracy is afoot, and I'm in the mood to clean house some more.
Yes, it needs to be cleaned up because a house should appear orderly. But come on; messing with thread ratings? Why not just ring the doorbell and run away?
Quote: Mosca
Yes, it needs to be cleaned up because a house should appear orderly. But come on; messing with thread ratings? Why not just ring the doorbell and run away?
That would work, they've already left the brown bag of poo at the foot of the door...a system calling for betting Player/Banker simultaneously.
