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April 27th, 2013 at 6:44:36 AM permalink
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April 27th, 2013 at 6:47:15 AM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

I been gone 30 + days, No suspensions. Coincidence ? ? ?


How was jail? lol I hope.
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April 30th, 2013 at 7:55:34 PM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

I been gone 30 + days, No suspensions. Coincidence ? ? ?



This was April 26 and now treetopbuddy got whacked. Damn !
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May 7th, 2013 at 3:50:34 AM permalink
Have the rules about name calling and personal insults changed?

A member calls another a "moronic conservatard."

If this isn't name calling and insults, what is?
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May 7th, 2013 at 5:36:45 AM permalink
Quote: timberjim

Have the rules about name calling and personal insults changed?

A member calls another a "moronic conservatard."

If this isn't name calling and insults, what is?

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May 7th, 2013 at 6:59:05 AM permalink
Quote: timberjim

Have the rules about name calling and personal insults changed?

A member calls another a "moronic conservatard."

If this isn't name calling and insults, what is?



I think that is the Evenbob exception to the name calling rule. Basically, metaphor and similes are OK somehow, so are indirect comparisons.

"Only a total dipshit would agree with you" is somehow OK, but "you are a total dipshit" is not. Of course, most of us think these mean the same thing...
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May 7th, 2013 at 7:06:35 AM permalink
Quote: timberjim

Have the rules about name calling and personal insults changed?

A member calls another a "moronic conservatard."

If this isn't name calling and insults, what is?



People have gotten away with far worse while the suspensions of others have left some of us scratching our heads. The contributors to that particular thread are very passionate and spirited and some leeway may be considered.

The person who made the comment doesn't seem to have a history of insults or name calling and could argue that he never directly said "you are a moronic conservatard" to anyone.

Just one person's take. Perhaps one of our gendarmes could weigh in.
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May 7th, 2013 at 7:21:44 AM permalink
If anybody wants to officially report a rule violation please contact me or Mission with the URL of the offending post. Please do not just state the thread it is in.
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May 7th, 2013 at 12:11:22 PM permalink
Exactly!

I often receive PM's pertaining to posts that people believe to be in violation of the Rules, and sometimes I have reasons for not Suspending based on the post, and other times, I just genuinely miss the post. I read every thread, but it happens, and sometimes I read faster than other times and might miss something.

Either way, if there is a statement that someone believes to be in violation, and I disagree, I can assure that you will receive a return PM specifically stating the reason(s) for my lack of action.
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May 7th, 2013 at 1:08:39 PM permalink
Who really even cares if someone calls you a name. I can't believe some of this is even discussed. "Moronic conservatard" Oh No! Lame.

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May 7th, 2013 at 1:56:31 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Who really even cares if someone calls you a name. I can't believe some of this is even discussed. "Moronic conservatard" Oh No! Lame.

ZCore13



It is about keeping an adult tone of conversation and not letting the board become what usenet became. Myself a d others stay here because this board has good rules and good members. Good members don't read post after post of name calling.
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May 7th, 2013 at 2:01:14 PM permalink
I understand that. I'm not complaining about the rules. I'm saying the person that sends the Wiz a note saying "AZDuffman just called me stupid" is lame. I'm all for the rules and keeping it adult, but the ones "offended" are less adult a lot of the time.

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May 14th, 2013 at 4:23:01 PM permalink
winlose is nuked for soliciting, a violation of rule 3.
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May 14th, 2013 at 6:24:32 PM permalink
5 minutes to nuke tarchera and his posts! Gotta be a world record!
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May 22nd, 2013 at 5:46:34 AM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

Look like a child huh? Real classy comment you made there. You showing up for the meeting big man?



Quote: Zcore13

Awww how cute. Are you asking me on a date?



ZCore was given seven days for this?

I'm sorry, but Ahigh issued a challenge to ZCore. ZCore made an inappropriate comment comparing Ahigh's math skills to those of a child, NOT HIS PHYSICAL PROWESS or qualities. If that offends Ahigh's "masculinity" then it's Ahigh who needs to grow a skin.

Ahigh escalated by using a veiled threat: 'you showing up for the meeting big man'?

ZCore's response, while sarcastic, was not outside of the bounds of anything else said. I think that Ahigh was issuing the threat here, not ZCore, and I believe you banned the wrong person.

I feel both need a suspension, or no suspension at all.
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May 22nd, 2013 at 6:15:47 AM permalink
The heart and soul of this site is suspended? Where is the notice, how long?
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May 22nd, 2013 at 6:22:23 AM permalink
Quote: DeMango

The heart and soul of this site is suspended? Where is the notice, how long?


The Wizard is suspended?
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May 22nd, 2013 at 8:58:54 AM permalink
It looks like Ahigh is suspended as well though it hasn't be publicized as to how long.

By all accounts, Ahigh is a nice and affable guy in person. Online, however, it's all gotten a little bit out of hand.

I think the Wizard holds his most frequent posters to higher standards, and I'm good with that.
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May 22nd, 2013 at 9:11:00 AM permalink
He is suspended for ONE MONTH: check the suspension list.

He'll be missed
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May 22nd, 2013 at 9:12:27 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

He'll be missed


Man, Ahigh was such an awesome source of entertainment too.....lol
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May 22nd, 2013 at 9:13:24 AM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

It looks like Ahigh is suspended as well though it hasn't be publicized as to how long.

By all accounts, Ahigh is a nice and affable guy in person. Online, however, it's all gotten a little bit out of hand.

I think the Wizard holds his most frequent posters to higher standards, and I'm good with that.


It is my humble opinion that Ahigh's contribution to the site has been negative for most of his tenure. Not that there can't be intelligent discussion about dice influencing, but his acerbic, overly-confrontational personality combined with his translucent skin is really a bad combination, and any good he brings is cancelled out and then some by the bad.
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May 22nd, 2013 at 9:15:57 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

He is suspended for ONE MONTH: check the suspension list.

He'll be missed



That seems very harsh for this "offense." But, I suppose that's what had to happen given the policy of increasing penalties for repeat infractions - his last suspension was for 14 days, and they generally double each time.
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May 22nd, 2013 at 9:32:10 AM permalink
Well, to keep the dice setting threads alive until AHIGH returns, it looks like TUPP has some mighty big shoes to fill.
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May 22nd, 2013 at 9:39:17 AM permalink
Pity he let the haters get under his skin rather than simply blocking them. So he let the haters "win." It was apparent that Zcore was going to relentlessly goad him into a confrontation with the expected results. Like him or not, Aaron is a stand up guy and was not going to back down.
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May 22nd, 2013 at 10:34:54 AM permalink
I agree with your comment about AHIGH being a stand up guy. He forgot an important rule in life.

The only power people have over you is the power you give them.
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May 22nd, 2013 at 10:37:47 AM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

The only power people have over you is the power you give them



Amen.
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May 22nd, 2013 at 12:30:41 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Quote: MrV

He'll be missed


Man, Ahigh was such an awesome source of entertainment too.....lol



I blocked most of his threads last week, I got
real bored with his posts after he lost his BR.
His posts started getting bitter and personal
and I'd had enough. Maybe with a month off
he'll find another hobby..
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May 22nd, 2013 at 12:34:11 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

He is suspended for ONE MONTH: check the suspension list.

He'll be missed



that was the funniest possible video to link to.

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May 22nd, 2013 at 12:47:06 PM permalink
Wasn't Ahigh going to the WOV get together this
weekend? 10 to 1 he doesn't show up. And if he
does, well, that should be interesting.
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May 22nd, 2013 at 1:02:27 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

Quote: MrV

He is suspended for ONE MONTH: check the suspension list.

He'll be missed



That seems very harsh for this "offense." But, I suppose that's what had to happen given the policy of increasing penalties for repeat infractions - his last suspension was for 14 days, and they generally double each time.



He absolutely lost it in the argument with ZCore.
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May 22nd, 2013 at 1:09:48 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Wasn't Ahigh going to the WOV get together this
weekend? 10 to 1 he doesn't show up. And if he
does, well, that should be interesting.


That's why I may drop by anonymously. Might be fun watching Ahigh 'unplugged'. :D
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May 22nd, 2013 at 3:06:15 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

That's why I may drop by anonymously. Might be fun watching Ahigh 'unplugged'. :D



Look at Ahigh's record for the last 10 days, there
were many times he had 35-40 posts a day, or more.
He was spending hours a day here, trouble was
bound to come eventually. He might show up just
to blow off steam, who knows.
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May 22nd, 2013 at 4:32:04 PM permalink
I am looking forward to Aaron coming to WoVCon; if nothing else, he IS colorful.
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May 22nd, 2013 at 4:34:57 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

I am looking forward to Aaron coming to WoVCon; if nothing else, he IS colorful.



You won't be there though. So how will you know
how colorful he is.
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May 22nd, 2013 at 5:21:03 PM permalink
BOB, stick to being a barman, not a bookie. 10 to 1 ? Are you crazy ? Ahigh will never pass up such an audience. NO WAY !
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May 22nd, 2013 at 5:39:03 PM permalink
Isn't 30 days excessive?
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May 22nd, 2013 at 5:43:12 PM permalink
Hey, it's summer. Ahigh should enjoy the fresh air for a while. Spend time playing with the kids and their Mommy. This forum and crap tables will be here in 30 days.
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May 22nd, 2013 at 5:47:26 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Isn't 30 days excessive?



3, 7, and 14 were done already. And escalation is the standard. so 30 and 0 were the only real options. Personally, I'd have gone with no suspension and a warning. But if there was to be a suspension, this was the only available option.
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May 22nd, 2013 at 5:50:27 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Look at Ahigh's record for the last 10 days, there
were many times he had 35-40 posts a day, or more.
He was spending hours a day here, trouble was
bound to come eventually. He might show up just
to blow off steam, who knows.



Lol. Yeah, posting a lot is weird, isn't it...
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May 22nd, 2013 at 5:54:01 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

3, 7, and 14 were done already. And escalation is the standard. so 30 and 0 were the only real options. Personally, I'd have gone with no suspension and a warning. But if there was to be a suspension, this was the only available option.



Unfortunately, the warning would have only delayed the inevitable. On this site, a thin skin is going to bite you in the arse. Some people are pretty good at getting under your skin if you let them. And once they know they can get a reaction, they will keep poking at you. Your only chance is to hope they get suspended before you blow your cool
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May 22nd, 2013 at 6:49:57 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

You won't be there though. So how will you know
how colorful he is.



Bob, you either don't bother to read my posts or your powers of comprehension are rapidly diminishing.

Or, you could just be trolling.

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May 22nd, 2013 at 7:35:28 PM permalink
I wasn't going to make a point of saying so, but since now two people going to WoVCon got suspensions I believe I should:

A suspension does not preclude you from attending WoVCon.
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May 22nd, 2013 at 7:38:18 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

Quote: MrV

He is suspended for ONE MONTH: check the suspension list.

He'll be missed



That seems very harsh for this "offense." But, I suppose that's what had to happen given the policy of increasing penalties for repeat infractions - his last suspension was for 14 days, and they generally double each time.



Seems like the sentences should martingale...three days... one week... two weeks + 1day...one month + 2 days, etc...
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May 22nd, 2013 at 7:38:54 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed



A suspension does not preclude you from attending WoVCon.



Now I regret I won't be there.
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May 22nd, 2013 at 7:46:31 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

Bob, you either don't bother to read my posts or your powers of comprehension are rapidly diminishing.

Or, you could just be trolling.

Survey says ...



You guys have just got to be kidding. THIS earned a suspension? Seriously? Do you actually read the bullshit that Bob writes and gets away with?
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May 22nd, 2013 at 8:08:27 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

Bob, you either don't bother to read my posts or your powers of comprehension are rapidly diminishing.

Or, you could just be trolling.

Survey says ...



... seven days for the personal insult. Note this is your second offense.


Quote: rdw4potus

You guys have just got to be kidding. THIS earned a suspension? Seriously? Do you actually read the bullshit that Bob writes and gets away with?



Three days for that personal insult and profanity. First offense. If you think anything EB writes is ban worthy, PM me the URL of the post.
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May 22nd, 2013 at 8:11:51 PM permalink
Is the idea to suspend everyone attending WoVCon ]I[? If so, you will fail. No amount of provocation will ever get Doc suspended.

BTW: ;)
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May 23rd, 2013 at 12:21:00 AM permalink
Well, this could create some difficulty in coordinating the WoVCon activities by posts or PMs. I do have phone numbers for Nareed and rdw4potus from last year, but I don't have outside-the-forum contacts for any of the other expected attendees.

Maybe we can just ask the Wizard to relay messages to/from the folks who have been banned. ;-)

Anyway, I made it to Vegas, and this post belongs in a different thread.
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May 23rd, 2013 at 3:35:47 AM permalink
Quote: Doc

Well, this could create some difficulty in coordinating the WoVCon activities by posts or PMs. I do have phone numbers for Nareed and rdw4potus from last year, but I don't have outside-the-forum contacts for any of the other expected attendees.

Maybe we can just ask the Wizard to relay messages to/from the folks who have been banned. ;-)



Or it could be like back in H.S. where if you were suspended from school you were likewise banned from extracurricular activities that fell within the suspension time-frame? If you were suspended the day of prom too bad.

Come on, folks. How can you get yourselves suspended in a thread titled "Discussion about Suspension List?"
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May 23rd, 2013 at 6:12:46 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Or it could be like back in H.S. where if you were suspended from school you were likewise banned from extracurricular activities that fell within the suspension time-frame? If you were suspended the day of prom too bad.

Come on, folks. How can you get yourselves suspended in a thread titled "Discussion about Suspension List?"

High school? This is starting to remind me of grammar school and not in a good way.

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