Discussion about the Suspension List
August 5th, 2014 at 5:05:51 PM
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That's a real shame. Can you nuke him twice? Just
be glad you didn't make a bet with him. You just
gave him a great reason to welsh on it..
be glad you didn't make a bet with him. You just
gave him a great reason to welsh on it..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 5th, 2014 at 5:12:20 PM
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hopefully its the life hammer
The bet will not be paid- not now not ever
August 5th, 2014 at 5:18:46 PM
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Quote: WizardLemieux66 is suspended for this post and this one. Remember that an offense either here or DT will result in a ban at both sites.
Careful. He'll be posting about how best to seek revenge on you. :)
Quote:Stay tuned for sentencing. Am I in a good or bad mood today?
As long as you're not in a capricious mood...
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
August 5th, 2014 at 5:34:23 PM
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Quote: NareedCareful. He'll be posting about how best to seek revenge on you. :)
At least he doesn't owe me money. I'd never see that again.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
August 5th, 2014 at 5:58:39 PM
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L66 has resigned. I'd like to thank him for saving me the trouble of fretting over his sentence.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
August 5th, 2014 at 6:03:30 PM
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wow what a free roll
The bet will not be paid- not now not ever
August 5th, 2014 at 6:09:53 PM
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Be on the look out for NotLemieux66
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
August 5th, 2014 at 6:14:51 PM
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Well, now that he's gone and the insult rule no longer applies...
My impression of Lemieux was that he was kind of stupid.
He talked about APing BJ but from his comments about the game he clearly didn't understand it at all. Which is fine, I guess, if you don't mind losing money. Wannabe counters probably make up a good chunk of the casino's profits.
Then there was this whole bet-welching thread. Even if he really truly believes that he was doing the right thing, did he really think that the people on this forum would agree with him? Sorry, that is just dumb. Hatred of welchers is just about the only thing that people around here agree on.
I dunno; Axel has met the guy... maybe he will disagree with my assessment.
My impression of Lemieux was that he was kind of stupid.
He talked about APing BJ but from his comments about the game he clearly didn't understand it at all. Which is fine, I guess, if you don't mind losing money. Wannabe counters probably make up a good chunk of the casino's profits.
Then there was this whole bet-welching thread. Even if he really truly believes that he was doing the right thing, did he really think that the people on this forum would agree with him? Sorry, that is just dumb. Hatred of welchers is just about the only thing that people around here agree on.
I dunno; Axel has met the guy... maybe he will disagree with my assessment.
August 5th, 2014 at 7:07:45 PM
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Do we have any volunteers to make bets with the guy he didn't pay? Won't hurt unless the guy screws you over somehow or doesn't pay you.
I am a robot.
August 5th, 2014 at 7:16:12 PM
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I don't doubt the guy he screwed is a real SOB. But that's no reason to not pay him. But it's also a good reason to let that little piece of karma work itself out.
A falling knife has no handle.
August 5th, 2014 at 8:09:40 PM
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Quote: AxiomOfChoiceI dunno; Axel has met the guy... maybe he will disagree with my assessment.
Axel hangs with him? Everything is getting
clearer and clearer..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 5th, 2014 at 9:15:11 PM
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Quote: EvenBobAxel hangs with him? Everything is getting
clearer and clearer..
Axel met him once, according to posts that both of them have made on this forum.
I've met Axel; he is a good guy.
August 6th, 2014 at 12:54:38 AM
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Lemieux66 made posts that others didn't agree with. Heck, he made a lot of posts that I didn't agree with. For that, some here wanted him gone. He was finally caught over a couple of mild insults that would have gotten the average forum member a three day suspension. (Some get three days on their fourth suspension.) Anyone wading through his threads could probably find some insults directed at him. The suspension is not given because Lemieux66 resigned.
Here's where it gets confusing. The Suspension Ends column next to his name says never. Why is that? Why is he not afforded a reinstatement upon request like all the others who have resigned? Do his posts even come close to the Nuclear Option? If the answer is yes then that indication beside his name would clear things up for those who want to insult him now that he's gone.
If the answer is no then he is a member in good standing who cannot be insulted without consequences. Until his true status is determined caution is advised. There's no reason for anyone else to get suspended over this.
Here's where it gets confusing. The Suspension Ends column next to his name says never. Why is that? Why is he not afforded a reinstatement upon request like all the others who have resigned? Do his posts even come close to the Nuclear Option? If the answer is yes then that indication beside his name would clear things up for those who want to insult him now that he's gone.
If the answer is no then he is a member in good standing who cannot be insulted without consequences. Until his true status is determined caution is advised. There's no reason for anyone else to get suspended over this.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
August 6th, 2014 at 3:33:37 AM
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Everyone is protected from cruel and unusual punishment by the Bill of RightsQuote: 1BBAnyone wading through his threads
August 6th, 2014 at 4:29:34 AM
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Quote: 1BBIf the answer is no then he is a member in good standing who cannot be insulted without consequences. Until his true status is determined caution is advised. There's no reason for anyone else to get suspended over this.
If a member resigns he immediately loses his insult protection, whether permanently or temporarily. If he asks to come back, and is accepted, then he regains insult protection. In the case of L66, I put "never" in the "suspension ends" column because he framed his resignation as permanent and a request to be reinstated would be denied anyway. When somebody resigns in good standing, especially with a reason like he needs to take a break (aHigh is a good example), I will leave the "suspension ends" column blank or put a question mark.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
August 6th, 2014 at 5:15:01 AM
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That's just a stupid comment. But speaking of clearer and clearer It's There is some saying that comes to mind "stupid is as...Quote: EvenBobAxel hangs with him? Everything is getting
clearer and clearer..
BTW, I hear you are tight with LarryS.
If you read the posts where I discussed meeting Lem66, and I know you did. There was no mention I hang around with him. I met up with him one time with my GF. I treated him to a comped dinner at a nice place. I was interested in finding out about his "adventure in AC" seeking an answer to the mystery, to find out if there were any red flags, to why he thought he was getting flagged. Most people here seemed to like him. Other known members wanted to meet with him as well in the past. I think someone did.
I was one of the first people to point how how wrong I thought he was. I always thought some of what he was saying, seemed off a bit, I voiced it in his threads (I know you like to sit back and chime in after the fact all the time, then abandon ship at any sign you're wrong ).
I especially found it cheap and tacky that he was advertising and charging other members 10 bucks for a buffet.
At dinner He behaved himself just fine, he didn't act or say anything to strange, he didn't brag and was quite humble and seemed honest (it looks like he is to "honest" but misguided). I offered him a few bucks to play something for me and we parted ways. He seemed like someone people would like. I doubt his MO is to screw people over.
Apparently he has some twisted point to prove and is to stubborn to back down, even tho 99% of us think he wrong (sound familiar?).Perhaps he just wanted to stir up shit (sound familiar?)
I have said, this isn't going to end well.
People say some f***ed up sh**t all the time. RB said some horrible crap about cops after that Vegas police shooting. According to what you are implying about me hanging around him(and it's not the case), you would have to apply that train of thought to Mike, Me and a few others.
At least the guy is willing to show his face and not hide behind a computer screen making judgments about everyone.
I don't condone nor will I defend what he is saying or doing but technically I'm not even sure he welshed on a bet, he didn't pay back a loan used to gamble. Seems common even with some popular poker players. see Full Tilt.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
August 6th, 2014 at 11:59:18 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfThat's just a stupid comment.
No, it was a light hearted poking fun comment.
Like you saying I'm 'tight with Larry'. You don't
believe that and I know you don't, so I think it's
funny. The way you should have taken my comment.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 7th, 2014 at 7:54:29 PM
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A post previously here by DMSCR has been removed for excessive bad taste.
DMSCR is given an official warning to act more like a gentleman or the next time will result in a suspension.
DMSCR is given an official warning to act more like a gentleman or the next time will result in a suspension.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
August 7th, 2014 at 7:56:08 PM
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You showed restraint. It was a clear violation and much in poor taste.Quote: WizardA post previously here by DMSCR has been removed for excessive bad taste.
DMSCR is given an official warning to act more like a gentleman or the next time will result in a suspension.
I am a robot.
August 7th, 2014 at 9:24:18 PM
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Quote: WizardA post previously here by DMSCR has been removed for excessive bad taste.
DMSCR is given an official warning to act more like a gentleman or the next time will result in a suspension.
In absolute total agreement. Totally tasteless beyond crude. Just funny how your immediate response has proven:
http://www.businessinsider.com/is-life-really-better-for-beautiful-people-2012-7
You have been quite lenient in this matter. I expected much worse.
Also Mike/Wizard has a "weakness" for pretty things. Don't we all. LOL. Be very careful this can be your downfall. This has brought many empires and accomplish people down to nothing.
August 7th, 2014 at 10:45:49 PM
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Quote: DMSCRAlso Mike/Wizard has a "weakness" for pretty things. Don't we all. LOL. Be very careful this can be your downfall. This has brought many empires and accomplish people down to nothing.
What the hell does THAT mean? I read your comment,
I would have nuked you if it was my forum.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 7th, 2014 at 10:51:47 PM
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We should just lock him in the basement. I have a feeling Rolexwatch would want to bunk with him and might not have a choice.Quote: EvenBobWhat the hell does THAT mean? I read your comment,
I would have nuked you if it was my forum.
I am a robot.
August 7th, 2014 at 10:55:13 PM
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duplicate
I am a robot.
August 7th, 2014 at 11:19:57 PM
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So soon after your warning, you cast aspersions regarding the board owner?Quote: DMSCRIn absolute total agreement. Totally tasteless beyond crude. Just funny how your immediate response has proven:
http://www.businessinsider.com/is-life-really-better-for-beautiful-people-2012-7
You have been quite lenient in this matter. I expected much worse.
Also Mike/Wizard has a "weakness" for pretty things. Don't we all. LOL. Be very careful this can be your downfall. This has brought many empires and accomplish people down to nothing.
August 7th, 2014 at 11:26:33 PM
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Quote: ChowSoySo soon after your warning, you cast aspersions regarding the board owner?
You alright?!?!? I learn it by watching you!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5MLF1o2gN0
Nothing can be compared to what you are whining about over at GG there johno/carlo/egalite!
Nice to see you in WoV. Hope you stick around much longer this time. Looks like beachbumbabs is not going to ban you anymore!
We need more of your "winning" baccarat stories in here.
August 10th, 2014 at 10:07:50 PM
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Is "may I suggest you go shit in your hat" really considered a personal insult? I don't get it.
August 10th, 2014 at 10:55:07 PM
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What kind of hat?Quote: AxiomOfChoiceIs "may I suggest you go shit in your hat" really considered a personal insult? I don't get it.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
August 10th, 2014 at 11:03:15 PM
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Crappy hat.
Sanitized for Your Protection
August 10th, 2014 at 11:14:35 PM
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http://www.lotsofjokes.com/crappy_hat-img-758.jpgQuote: rxwineCrappy hat.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
August 10th, 2014 at 11:22:19 PM
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Seven day suspensions for Buzzard almost amounts to senior abuse considering his age. The Seinfeld battery shoplifting defense should apply with him given a stern warning and allowed to continue posting.
I am a robot.
August 10th, 2014 at 11:39:33 PM
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It may of been the fact that he tempted Mods and used a complete 4 letter word.Quote: onenickelmiracleSeven day suspensions for Buzzard almost amounts to senior abuse considering his age. The Seinfeld battery shoplifting defense should apply with him given a stern warning and allowed to continue posting.
Mostly because it was offensive to hats around the world.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
August 10th, 2014 at 11:55:25 PM
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It's in the Buzzard version new testament.Quote: AxelWolfIt may of been the fact that he tempted Mods and used a complete 4 letter word.
Mostly because it was offensive to hats around the world.
I am a robot.
August 11th, 2014 at 12:55:34 AM
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Some suspensions are handed out with glee, others are handed out with regret. This latest Buzz suspension seems to be the latter. I'll leave it for others to debate whether it was deserved or whether it was just Buzz being Buzz.
Regardless, 7 days for a 5th offense doesn't seem all that bad when others are nuked for that many trips to the woodshed. LarryS must be scratching his head in disbelief.
Regardless, 7 days for a 5th offense doesn't seem all that bad when others are nuked for that many trips to the woodshed. LarryS must be scratching his head in disbelief.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
August 11th, 2014 at 12:56:17 AM
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Quote: AxiomOfChoiceIs "may I suggest you go shit in your hat" really considered a personal insult? I don't get it.
Buzzard knew it was wrong to post, admitting it himself:
Quote: Buzzard( Moderator : 7 days or 30 Either works for me )
August 11th, 2014 at 2:17:13 AM
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For the most part I don't like to see people get suspended and I really don't like to see people getting nuked. being suspended is not the end of the world.Quote: 1BBSome suspensions are handed out with glee, others are handed out with regret. This latest Buzz suspension seems to be the latter. I'll leave it for others to debate whether it was deserved or whether it was just Buzz being Buzz.
Regardless, 7 days for a 5th offense doesn't seem all that bad when others are nuked for that many trips to the woodshed. LarryS must be scratching his head in disbelief.
It seems we already established the rules cant cover every situation. I think in Larry's case you really have to look at the over all picture and his intentions. Larry seemed to want to be truly hurtful to people and even discredit the Wizard and the forum. He was not trying to be clever or funny or helpful. He seem to take serious joy in the misfortunes of others and was spiteful.
Buzz might be a bit cantankerous But I don't think he is out to be purposely spiteful.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
August 11th, 2014 at 7:43:54 AM
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TBH I could never understand DMSCR venom in his initial response many years ago on a defunct web site BF (die of cancer etc etc). Now I fully understand, as those from the sub continent of Indian do have a tendancy to act extreme.
Cliams he has beaten Baccarat via some final card hand algoryhm and betting the second line Banker. You can read more of DMSCR's deluded insights here removed by mod
See ya
Chow Soy (wine to go with the food)
Cliams he has beaten Baccarat via some final card hand algoryhm and betting the second line Banker. You can read more of DMSCR's deluded insights here removed by mod
See ya
Chow Soy (wine to go with the food)
August 11th, 2014 at 10:13:10 AM
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I agree with RS. While the comment may or may not be worthy of suspension, Buzz knew it probably was when he includes the note to the mods about the potential suspension.
Had I not been for that, I would argue against the suspension in favor of a warning.
For the record, the first time I ever heard the expression "Go shit in a hat" was in an email from Roger Snow, after the game demo in May, 2012. The email was sent to all participants. It included an invitation to call Roger to talk about the results, or simply to tell Roger to shit in his hat. I took him up on his offer - to talk about the results - not to tell him off. I talk about it in this post.
Buzz was at that game demo and got the same email.
But there's a difference between saying it after being invited to say it, and just saying it unprovoked.
Had I not been for that, I would argue against the suspension in favor of a warning.
For the record, the first time I ever heard the expression "Go shit in a hat" was in an email from Roger Snow, after the game demo in May, 2012. The email was sent to all participants. It included an invitation to call Roger to talk about the results, or simply to tell Roger to shit in his hat. I took him up on his offer - to talk about the results - not to tell him off. I talk about it in this post.
Buzz was at that game demo and got the same email.
But there's a difference between saying it after being invited to say it, and just saying it unprovoked.
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August 11th, 2014 at 11:12:57 AM
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Quote: RSBuzzard knew it was wrong to post, admitting it himself:
Yes, but the reason given is "personal insult". That's not a personal insult.
August 11th, 2014 at 11:17:07 AM
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Quote: 1BBSome suspensions are handed out with glee, others are handed out with regret. This latest Buzz suspension seems to be the latter. I'll leave it for others to debate whether it was deserved or whether it was just Buzz being Buzz.
Regardless, 7 days for a 5th offense doesn't seem all that bad when others are nuked for that many trips to the woodshed. LarryS must be scratching his head in disbelief.
LarryS is a worthless piece of crap. I find it amazing that it took the mods that long to nuke him.
Buzz likes to troll, but it's funny, playful, and not at all hurtful to anyone. I've never met him, he seems to be a genuinely nice guy.
I don't see how you can compare them.
August 11th, 2014 at 11:24:58 AM
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Just as long as Buzzard isn't nukeable. I think that's what people think will happen.
I am a robot.
August 11th, 2014 at 11:26:37 AM
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He was relishing Larrys' thoughts and rubbing it in by my interpretation.Quote: AxiomOfChoiceLarryS is a worthless piece of crap. I find it amazing that it took the mods that long to nuke him.
Buzz likes to troll, but it's funny, playful, and not at all hurtful to anyone. I've never met him, he seems to be a genuinely nice guy.
I don't see how you can compare them.
I am a robot.
August 11th, 2014 at 12:22:52 PM
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Quote: AxiomOfChoiceLarryS is a worthless piece of crap. I find it amazing that it took the mods that long to nuke him.
Buzz likes to troll, but it's funny, playful, and not at all hurtful to anyone. I've never met him, he seems to be a genuinely nice guy.
I don't see how you can compare them.
That's because I was not comparing them in any way, shape or form. I've barely read any of Larry's posts, not because it's Larry, because many of the topics here don't interest me. I only mentioned Larry because, other than someone that nobody has ever heard of, he was the last one nuked. I was comparing the suspension process. Remember the Martingale? It worked just fine in Larry's case.
I also think Buzz is a good guy and, as a fellow veteran from an unpopular time, I have respect for him. I can't speak for the dozens of members he has insulted. I do think he's safe from being nuked as he does have an in with at least one moderator and that's okay.
Why this thread exists is beyond me, especially in a dictatorship, but as long as it does I'm going to express my opinions. I'll express them without insulting anyone including banned members who can't respond here. I hope that my opinions are not misunderstood or manipulated as I strive to make my posts as clear as possible.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
August 11th, 2014 at 12:51:53 PM
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Quote: 1BBWhy this thread exists is beyond me, especially in a dictatorship,
Because the dictator wants it here?
Quote:but as long as it does I'm going to express my opinions. I'll express them without insulting anyone including banned members who can't respond here.
In fairness, the only reason I didn't insult Larry when he was not banned was because doing so is against the rules. I always did my best to get as close to the line as possible without going over. I'm pretty sure he knew what I thought of him.
I would actually usually agree with you about not insulting people who can't defend themselves, but I dislike Larry enough to make an exception. It's sort of like how, I'm generally against killing people, but I'm pro-death-penalty.
Quote:I hope that my opinions are not misunderstood or manipulated as I strive to make my posts as clear as possible.
I think that your posts on the topic are generally understood as complaints that the rules are not enforced uniformly against all members (at least, that's how I understand them; my apologies if that's a misunderstanding).
August 11th, 2014 at 4:56:14 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfHe seem to take serious joy in the misfortunes of others and was spiteful.
No, that's not how I see it.
He didn't seem to dwell on people's misfortunes.
Rather, I think that Larry found Joy in hoisting others on their own petard.
"What, me worry?"
August 11th, 2014 at 5:27:48 PM
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Buzz felt that his post was suspension-worthy. I felt it was on the edge, and that he meant it to be nasty was the tipping point. So I gave him the 7 he asked for. It seemed the more correct route, when there wasn't a clear one; I am trying to be judicious and fair without regard to what I think of the post or the poster. FWIW, I agreed with Buzz's assessment, but I appreciate knowing the likely source (Roger).
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
August 11th, 2014 at 5:38:25 PM
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We appreciate your efforts and I think you've been doing an excellent job. You need not justify or explain your actions to us; you are clearly the best of the Green Inkers.Quote: beachbumbabsI am trying to be judicious and fair without regard to what I think of the post or the poster.
This place would be a useless zoo if it were not for the green inkers and I really don't care to quibble about some variation in the exact shade of green or if some green ink got applied too liberally.
August 11th, 2014 at 6:01:28 PM
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ChowSoy is suspended, nuclear option, for multiple personalities previously nuked.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
