Discussion about the Suspension List
June 20th, 2014 at 7:04:00 AM
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Quote: tringlomaneOne major rule at the other forum I am a regular: No political discussions.
Oh? So what do they do for aggravation?
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
June 20th, 2014 at 7:12:29 AM
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
June 20th, 2014 at 8:39:39 AM
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I'm back and did want to apologize to the Mods and others who may have been offended by reading what caused my suspension. It was my first suspension and I knew it would be coming when I posted it as I stated. If the decision would have been longer than 3 days, even though it was my first, based on what I wrote I would have lived with it because of the respect I have for The Wizard and the Mods on this site. That all said, wishing an IRS Audit on anyone that you dont know their life or how they live it isnt exactly good conduct either. By no means is it worthy of a suspension and that is not what I am saying. What I am saying is it was something that bothered me to the point of making the decision to respond to it with my feelings on it, knowing I would be suspended.
Now I am moving on and will work to continue to try and add positive things to the forum and stay away from the petty negative stuff.
Now I am moving on and will work to continue to try and add positive things to the forum and stay away from the petty negative stuff.
June 20th, 2014 at 7:49:11 PM
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Quote: NareedOh? So what do they do for aggravation?
Quote: IbeatyouracesBetting systems?
Haha. Sometimes. But generally there's just much less aggravation. :) The forum is much less math centric so that helps too.
June 20th, 2014 at 8:00:46 PM
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On some forums threads on tipping seem to be good for that, if things ever get a little too tame & civil.Quote: NareedOh? So what do they do for aggravation?
[assert tipping opinion = pull pin on grenade]
Suck dope, watch TV, make up stuff, be somebody on the internet.
June 20th, 2014 at 11:04:44 PM
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Quote: tringlomaneOne major rule at the other forum I am a regular: No political discussions.
I would be cool with this rule. I block almost all threads that degenerate into political discussions.
The problem is that you can always ancilarily relate it to gambling, due to betting on elections via whatever.
But I feel like 95% of the time it has nothing to do with gamblng. Eff politics. While I've got your attention....
"So drink gamble eat f***, because one day you will be dust." -ontariodealer
June 21st, 2014 at 7:32:46 PM
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cryptocoin/EMINEM has been banned, nuclear option, for spamming, multiple accounts, and advertising without permission/remuneration.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
June 21st, 2014 at 7:50:43 PM
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Not the one standing next to Larry King. She can hold up my pants any time.Quote: AhighSome of these suspenders (if you look closely) almost seem to entice the desire to be reprimanded.
June 21st, 2014 at 7:57:50 PM
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
June 26th, 2014 at 9:04:53 AM
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I would like to apologize for my course language recently. While I don't necessarily understand the policy of keeping the forum PG-13, rules are rules and I knowingly violated them in a fit of rage.
"So drink gamble eat f***, because one day you will be dust." -ontariodealer
June 26th, 2014 at 9:34:35 AM
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Quote: AcesAndEightsI would like to apologize for my course language recently. While I don't necessarily understand the policy of keeping the forum PG-13, rules are rules and I knowingly violated them in a fit of rage.
The opinions of this moderator are for entertainment purposes only.
June 26th, 2014 at 9:35:19 AM
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This isn't displaying for meQuote: Face
June 26th, 2014 at 9:37:19 AM
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nevermind
Expect the worst and you will never be disappointed.
I AM NOT PART OF GWAE RADIO SHOW
June 26th, 2014 at 9:49:51 AM
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Quote: chickenmanThis isn't displaying for me
Weird. No help from me, though. I don't much understand these intertron boxes =/
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June 26th, 2014 at 9:55:07 AM
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The dimensions of the image exceed the allowable limit? (1024x1024). That seems way too large to put into a post. I have no problem seeing the image when I copy/paste the URL into my browser.
Edit. I see Face has found a way.
Edit. I see Face has found a way.
Climate Casino: https://climatecasino.net/climate-casino/
June 26th, 2014 at 9:59:31 AM
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Quote: Face
I like it. I quoted, then copied and pasted into a new tab to see it. Perfect sentiment.
And, Ace, classy return. Thank you.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
June 26th, 2014 at 10:00:03 AM
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Quote: teliotThe dimensions of the image exceed the allowable limit? (1024x1024). That seems way too large to put into a post.
Odd. I've never had problems before. I tend to try to keep them small, but I have posted even larger with no reported issues.
Quote: teliotEdit. I see Face has found a way.
I haven't done a thing. ???
The opinions of this moderator are for entertainment purposes only.
June 26th, 2014 at 10:19:26 AM
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Quote: FaceOdd. I've never had problems before. I tend to try to keep them small, but I have posted even larger with no reported issues.
I haven't done a thing. ???
It wasn't displaying for me, so I went directly to the linked picture in separate tab to look at it.
And now the pic is displaying correctly in the posts above. Maybe it cached the pic on my machine?
If size is the issue, here is a smaller version below:
You serious, Clark?
June 26th, 2014 at 10:38:48 AM
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Quote: blount2000It wasn't displaying for me, so I went directly to the linked picture in separate tab to look at it.
And now the pic is displaying correctly in the posts above. Maybe it cached the pic on my machine?
If size is the issue, here is a smaller version below:
That was exactly my experience. Bizarre. Still like the art.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
June 27th, 2014 at 3:36:19 AM
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Got it, thanx.Quote: teliotcopy/paste the URL into my browser.
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July 16th, 2014 at 10:01:41 PM
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Quote: BohemianI received this email and permission to post these rules clarification from Harley and I don't think he is selling anything
Quote: WizardBohemian is suspended for three days for passing on communication from a banned member.
Shame on me for not knowing the detailed status of every 3,000+ Non-Active Members,
Shame on Wizard:
- for being so petty in banning me for 3 days for such a small technicality in this case even though I was making a public service post for something the Wizard normally does (oh, now I get it - it was personal),
- for having a website of numbers, yet a ban of 3 days actually equals 5 as I could not post or private message Admin until 5 days after the ban.
I appreciate that the ban was only 3/5 days since I guess I could have been nuked like most real craps players are here. Only time will tell.
July 16th, 2014 at 10:09:58 PM
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Quote: BohemianShame on Wizard:
- for being so petty in banning me for 3 days for...
Let's make is a week this time, but I'll give you two days credit for extra time served last time, so you owe me five.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
July 17th, 2014 at 4:29:14 AM
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Quote: BohemianI appreciate that the ban was only 3/5 days since I guess I could have been nuked like most real craps players are here. Only time will tell.
I suspect that 3 turned into 7 and 7 will soon turn in to something more.
Don't walk in the owner's house and poop on the floor!
July 17th, 2014 at 7:09:53 AM
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Many folks probably come here after posting on unmoderated or loosely moderated boards.
There is a definite "learning curve" as to what one can and cannot post at WoV.
Adapt, or die.
There is a definite "learning curve" as to what one can and cannot post at WoV.
Adapt, or die.
"What, me worry?"
July 17th, 2014 at 10:48:48 AM
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Quote: MrVMany folks probably come here after posting on unmoderated or loosely moderated boards.
There is a definite "learning curve" as to what one can and cannot post at WoV.
Adapt, or die.
Just type as you woud speak to someone in person.
The internet annominity I think causes alot of insults to fly back and forth.
In person this really doesn't happen.
If responding, just type as if the person is face to face with you and it should be all good. No real learning curve, just respect for the person you are communicating with.
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
July 17th, 2014 at 12:21:12 PM
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Bohemian was suspended the first time for "passing on messages from banned member". After reading the rules several times I could not find that particular one. The post in question seemed in keeping with the thread and seemed to contain a lot of good information. I don't see where a banned member explicitly requested that Bohemian pass it on or post it here. My take is that he got an email from someone, thought it would be helpful and shared it here. He even tried to do the right thing by crediting the author, never dreaming that a Forum Rule was being violated. There's something to be said for intent, especially in this case.
I've said many times that new members as well as old members should familiarize themselves with the Forum Rules and read them often but would it have mattered in this case?
I've said many times that new members as well as old members should familiarize themselves with the Forum Rules and read them often but would it have mattered in this case?
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
July 17th, 2014 at 1:04:57 PM
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There seems, in the context of this discussion, to be a conflict between the following two rules:
"4. Respect privacy. Do not post any information about someone else that is intended to be private or quote from private communication."
and
"15. Private Messaging: Private messages are supposed to be private. Of course, by mutual agreement they can be quoted to a larger audience. The rules above also apply to private messaging, including rule #1. An exception to the privacy rule is that abuses may be reported to the Wizard, JB or Mission146. We will treat it like a "coach's challenge" in the NFL. If a banning is warranted, it will be given. If not, a banning of a perceived victim may be made for making a false claim. (Added 8/17/2012)"
How can you be allowed to quote a private message, with permission, yet also be prohibited from posting any portion of a private communication?
"4. Respect privacy. Do not post any information about someone else that is intended to be private or quote from private communication."
and
"15. Private Messaging: Private messages are supposed to be private. Of course, by mutual agreement they can be quoted to a larger audience. The rules above also apply to private messaging, including rule #1. An exception to the privacy rule is that abuses may be reported to the Wizard, JB or Mission146. We will treat it like a "coach's challenge" in the NFL. If a banning is warranted, it will be given. If not, a banning of a perceived victim may be made for making a false claim. (Added 8/17/2012)"
How can you be allowed to quote a private message, with permission, yet also be prohibited from posting any portion of a private communication?
"What, me worry?"
July 17th, 2014 at 1:10:31 PM
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What is the conflict? You can't post something that someone sends you privately unless the person who sent it gives you permission to do so.
July 17th, 2014 at 1:17:34 PM
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Quote: AxiomOfChoiceWhat is the conflict? You can't post something that someone sends you privately unless the person who sent it gives you permission to do so.
The conflict involves the prohibition of quoting from private communication.
Obviously the info was sent by a banned former member to him via "private communication" i.e. e-mail, and he posted it.
"What, me worry?"
July 17th, 2014 at 1:20:56 PM
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There is an exception to that prohibition -- the person sending the message can waive the right to keep it private. This seems pretty obvious.Quote: MrVThe conflict involves the prohibition of quoting from private communication.
The suspension had nothing to do with it being private. He was suspended for passing on info from a banned member. Presumably this is seen as an attempt to get around the ban.Quote:Obviously the info was sent by a banned former member to him via "private communication" i.e. e-mail, and he posted it.
FWIW I had never heard of either member until they posted in this thread.
July 17th, 2014 at 4:45:41 PM
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If it were an exception, one would think it would be in the body of the particular rule itself, and it is not.
That is why I say "conflict."
Perhaps "ambiguity" would be more apt.
There is no rule against passing info from a banned member.
That is why I say "conflict."
Perhaps "ambiguity" would be more apt.
There is no rule against passing info from a banned member.
"What, me worry?"
July 17th, 2014 at 5:30:57 PM
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Quote: MrVThere is no rule against passing info from a banned member.
aahigh.com
July 17th, 2014 at 5:39:13 PM
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Quote: Ahigh
I love it, where can I buy this shirt? seriously
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
July 17th, 2014 at 5:50:40 PM
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Quote: terapinedQuote: Ahigh
I love it, where can I buy this shirt? seriously
http://www.amazon.com/T-Shirt-Peanuts-With-The-Band/dp/B003EUV9P8
Expect the worst and you will never be disappointed.
I AM NOT PART OF GWAE RADIO SHOW
July 17th, 2014 at 6:12:41 PM
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Whew, got the last one :-)
Thanks.
Thanks.
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
July 17th, 2014 at 6:16:23 PM
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that costs more.Quote: RonC
Don't walk in the owner's house and poop on the floor!
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 17th, 2014 at 6:31:19 PM
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Hmm.... I think I may have done this before however I really was not attempting to add a voice to the banned person. What about suspended people? I'm sure I have seen this many times.Quote: AxiomOfChoiceHe was suspended for passing on info from a banned member.
What if someone seen someone like Varmenti(Is he banned? or just disappeared) and passed on a quote from him. Something like, "My dam cats ate all my Baccarat money"
I did hear he was playing craps now
and started a new band called The Dead Cat Bouncers j/k
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 17th, 2014 at 6:46:08 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfHmm.... I think I may have done this before however I really was not attempting to add a voice to the banned person. What about suspended people? I'm sure I have seen this many times.
What if someone seen someone like Varmenti(Is he banned? or just disappeared) and passed on a quote from him. Something like, "My dam cats ate all my Baccarat money"
I did hear he was playing craps now
and started a new band called The Dead Cat Bouncers j/k
What if I go to ontario and play craps with him and while doing so I get a picture with him. I post it on here with a caption that says varmenti says hi. Would that be wrong?
Expect the worst and you will never be disappointed.
I AM NOT PART OF GWAE RADIO SHOW
July 17th, 2014 at 6:57:43 PM
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IN SO MANY WAYS.Quote: GWAEWhat if I go to ontario and play craps with him and while doing so I get a picture with him. I post it on here with a caption that says varmenti says hi. Would that be wrong?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 17th, 2014 at 7:05:33 PM
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July 17th, 2014 at 7:41:14 PM
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Quote: MrVThere is no rule against passing info from a banned member.
Whether there is a written rule against it or not, that was the stated reason for the suspension.
The Wizard can suspend anyone for whatever reason he chooses. There is nothing that says that the set of written rules is a complete list of reasons for suspension.
July 17th, 2014 at 7:50:55 PM
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This picture is why I'm not against bullyingQuote: Ahigh
http://img.izismile.com/img/img5/20121003/640/there_are_still_some_people_who_get_it_so_wrong_640_38.jpg
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 17th, 2014 at 7:54:51 PM
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Apparently not..... considering I don't see your name in red.Quote: AxiomOfChoice
The Wizard can suspend anyone for whatever reason he chooses. .
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 17th, 2014 at 7:58:36 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfApparently not..... considering I don't see your name in red.
Oh, he likes me more that he lets on
July 17th, 2014 at 8:11:17 PM
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What are you implying? ;)Quote: AxiomOfChoiceOh, he likes me more that he lets on
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 17th, 2014 at 8:50:18 PM
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I suppose the best way to look at it is that it is now a common law, or "judge made" rule, not a "statutory" or written rule.
But yeah, his playhouse, he can do whatever he wants and exclude whomever he wants for whatever reason.
No recourse for the wretched lepers.
But yeah, his playhouse, he can do whatever he wants and exclude whomever he wants for whatever reason.
No recourse for the wretched lepers.
"What, me worry?"
July 17th, 2014 at 9:06:19 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfWhat are you implying? ;)
I am a likeable fellow, once you get past the first few impressions.
July 17th, 2014 at 9:11:28 PM
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So was Charlie Manson.
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
July 17th, 2014 at 9:49:17 PM
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Quote: BuzzardSo was Charlie Manson.
No, he was likeable until you got past the first impression. Totally different.
July 18th, 2014 at 1:50:02 AM
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IC , I thought you were suggesting it had something to do with the pretty rainbows on top that attracted you to this site in the first place. ;).Quote: AxiomOfChoiceQuote: AxelWolf
What are you implying? ;) AxiomOfChoice: I am a likeable fellow, once you get past the first few impressions.
I don't care what everyone says about you.
Seriously you were a very nice, friendly, cool guy when I meat you. I would hang out with you any time. Sorry I missed you on your last trip.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
