Discussion about the Suspension List

Quote: Boz

Your opinion.

My opinion is so good it carries a lot of weight with me ;)

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Mine is all of them do what is a reward less job.

Some people like the power that comes with it.

I co-admined a board once. It was fun for a while, like maybe two hours, then it became a chore. I was actually glad when it died of spam.

Sometimes I think there are two B9s. The one who wrote that excellent and reasonable lengthy post after his suspension and the one who keeps hammering little things when he needs to just let it go.

Quote: FrGamble

. . .the one who keeps hammering little things when he needs to just let it go.

This quote reminds me of our Original Sin debate (from both sides of the table)
:-)

Quote: FrGamble

Sometimes I think there are two B9s

FrGamble, I literally laughed out loud when I read this. :D

Quote: FrGamble

...and the one who keeps hammering little things when he needs to just let it go.

But just to clarify, I'm not complaining at all about these "little things". In fact, I couldn't care less about them. The only reason I brought them up is because I was hammered for (supposedly) committing the same violations myself. As I said in a previous post, why should the pots be punished while the kettles roam free?

Quote: Beethoven9th

FrGamble, I literally laughed out loud when I read this. :D


But just to clarify, I'm not complaining at all about these "little things". In fact, I couldn't care less about them. The only reason I brought them up is because I was hammered for (supposedly) committing the same violations myself. As I said in a previous post, why should the pots be punished while the kettles roam free?

because kettles are used to make tea and pots are full of pee.

Quote: AxelWolf

because kettles are used to make tea and pots are full of pee.

1. My kettle is chrome
2. My teapots are various colors; none of them black
3. My pee goes into the toilet. You are not invited to my house for tea.

Quote: AxelWolf

When I first see it, it looked like and obvious dig on him

+1

Quote: AxelWolf

because kettles are used to make tea and pots are full of pee.

LOL!!

Touché! ;)

Quote: AxelWolf

If B9 thinks your tag line is an insult, then it is. When I first see it, it looked like and obvious dig on him. I just thought, he thought it was funny because, well, it is funny. No matter what you or anyone says it is making fun of him. You are indicating he is a troll.

Yep, I agree. But I do think that B9 is letting to let that go. And he dishes similar level stuff back at him, and his sig is similar now in tone.

Quote: tringlomane

Yep, I agree. But I do think that B9 is letting to let that go.

Oh, it was never an issue with me to begin with. That is, until I got hammered for making "slurs".

Plus, there's still no explanation on how a member can get a pass for calling someone a "lowlife". Doesn't seem like it would be a close call, but that's just me. (I was called a "lowlife" three times in that thread. The last instance was right before it got locked, so I'm sure it was seen.)

Is it possible to miss 3 slurs in the very thread that you locked?? Or perhaps "lowlife" is permissible for all non-regulars? Just trying to understand, that's all.

Quote: Beethoven9th

Oh, it was never an issue with me to begin with. That is, until I got hammered for making "slurs".

Plus, there's still no explanation on how a member can get a pass for calling someone a "lowlife". Doesn't seem like it would be a close call, but that's just me. (I was called a "lowlife" three times in that thread.) Is it possible to miss 3 slurs in the very thread that you locked?? Or perhaps "lowlife" is permissible for non-regulars now? Just trying to understand, that's all.

Sometimes people make bad calls. They made a bad call by ignoring this insult not once but three times. You've told them that and they have surely read it. Either they understand they were wrong and will do better the next time or they don't.

Let it go, my friend. It isn't worth the time--I'd rather see some of your great posts.

Quote: RonC

Let it go, my friend. It isn't worth the time

Point well taken. Yep, I did mention it in my initial post, so you're absolutely right. :)

OTOH, the recent "slur" accusation...

If in the future I start using "facepalm" I want it to be clear what it means in my mind.......just so the monitors can make a judgement call as to whether its actionable/insulting when it comes from me.

facepalm from me will mean the following

"I cant believe you are such a f"ing idiot, I am emarrassed for your parents that they raised such a fool, how did you get this far in life with such minimal brain power?, please do us all a favor and put a bullet in your head so we can save oxygen for more intelligent forms of life like.... kelp....you lousey piece of excrement"

I live in California now, so this is kind of a mellow version of what it was when I lived in NJ.

you can take the boy out of Jersey, but you can't take the jersey out of the boy? ;-) Nothing meant by use of boy.... that is the way I heard the phrase growing up....

Quote: LarryS

If in the future I start using "facepalm" I want it to be clear what it means in my mind.......just so the monitors can make a judgement call as to whether its actionable/insulting when it comes from me.

facepalm from me will mean the following

"I cant believe you are such a f"ing idiot, I am emarrassed for your parents that they raised such a fool, how did you get this far in life with such minimal brain power?, please do us all a favor and put a bullet in your head so we can save oxygen for more intelligent forms of life like.... kelp....you lousey piece of excrement"

I live in California now, so this is kind of a mellow version of what it was when I lived in NJ.

There would be no judgement necessary. If you define it as above, then use it, you will be suspended or nuked. Clearly insulting, clearly intentional, clearly personal.

I think LarryS saves his face palms for John Patrick!

Quote: beachbumbabs

There would be no judgement necessary. If you define it as above, then use it, you will be suspended or nuked. Clearly insulting, clearly intentional, clearly personal.

Hillarious

thanks for the ruling

and when someone uses it against me....I assume they are using my standard and defintion

Any over/under on how long it takes LarryS to get suspended/nuked? Originally I was thinking 24 hours was a fair line, but I think that might be too generous.

Kinda funny and maybe fitting, for someone to get a suspension in the suspension thread, lol. (Was going to post facepalm, but decided not to, lol)

Quote: MidwestAP

Any over/under on how long it takes LarryS to get suspended/nuked? Originally I was thinking 24 hours was a fair line, but I think that might be too generous.

that could depend on if someone has a bad day and goes on a "banning spree".....as was discussed by 'face"

I cant control that and am aware now it can occur. And wouldnt complain one bit since its not my sandbox

Quote: LarryS

Hillarious

thanks for the ruling

and when someone uses it against me....I assume they are using my standard and defintion

You're actually illustrating a common problem on this site; people from all over the world are here, for many English is their second language, for many others regionalisms mean very different things to English speakers. Some people's perception of what you post is that you're funny; other people find you insulting, other people have other opinions. recent cite: AnabelleT, with bonus offense to Tomspur, as he says quite clearly.

If you complained to me that "facepalm" is offensive when said to you, citing your definition above, I would say that your definition is not commonly accepted (as in, "I reject the premise that words can be redefined simply to justify your umbrage"), and I would not take action against the offender for the singularity of its use. However, if in context it was clearly intended as a personal insult, it's possible the offense would be actionable. The difference is, YOU have defined it for yourself, as a cut-and-paste stand-in for what you want to say, so if YOU use it, you have set the bar yourself. Your long "definition" could not, by any stretch of the imagination, be anything other than extremely insulting, profane, and actionable.

But, of course, you knew all of that before you asked.

Quote: EdgeLooker

Kinda funny and maybe fitting, for someone to get a suspension in the suspension thread, lol. (Was going to post facepalm, but decided not to, lol)

you just said in my understanding of the term

I was going to say"I cant believe you are such a f"ing idiot, I am emarrassed for your parents that they raised such a fool, how did you get this far in life with such minimal brain power?, please do us all a favor and put a bullet in your head so we can save oxygen for more intelligent forms of life like.... kelp....you lousey piece of excrement"....BUT DECIDED NOT TO

wow

I will survive though


Its funny that the last 2 days there is an uproar over the sarcastic use of "Einstein" and the banning that ensued......and I come up withone of the most vulgar insulting meanings for "facepalm"....i am getting a ruling as if I really wanted or needed one.

thats the problem on this board......

Quote: LarryS

that could depend on if someone has a bad day and goes on a "banning spree".....as was discussed by 'face"

I'm confused. Are you talking about this snip from my way-too-long post?

Quote: Face

There are plenty of other examples of members skirting the line, and I suspect their future transgressions will be addressed in a similar matter

If so, I don't see that as a threat or warning of banning sprees. In fact, I think I can speak for everyone, mods and members alike, that we don't want more bannings. I was just commenting, in response to Beethoven's many examples, that the behavior he supplied would be handled differently in the future. I, of course, wouldn't expect such behavior to continue, thereby avoiding bans and other displeasurable actions altogether.

If that's not it, then I don't know to what you're referring.

Quote: Face

I'm confused. Are you talking about this snip from my way-too-long post?



If so, I don't see that as a threat or warning of banning sprees. In fact, I think I can speak for everyone, mods and members alike, that we don't want more bannings. I was just commenting, in response to Beethoven's many examples, that the behavior he supplied would be handled differently in the future. I, of course, wouldn't expect such behavior to continue, thereby avoiding bans and other displeasurable actions altogether.

If that's not it, then I don't know to what you're referring.

you said the wizard when he is in a bad mood can go on a banning spree.

Quote: LarryS

you said the wizard when he is in a bad mood can go on a banning spree.

I do have a serious concern and question though

It seems the people up above are more interested in banning than to help the offended person.

So using me as an example. I am suspended (without complaint) for using the phrase attention whore attached to someone.

So instead of deleting my post or deleting my sentence instead of banning me or in conjunction with banning me......The offensive quote is again reproduced in another thread..so in case someone missed it originally they get a chance to read the offensive item. Then on the banned list..there is a link to the offensuve item in case people no even aware of that thread are curious to see why people are banned. It doesnt seem to help the offended party. In this case it tripled the chances of the item to be viewed. The offended person probably would feel better tosee the offensive material taken off i would think.

It seems there is little empathy for the offended person. It seems the joy is in the punishment and not in helping the feelings of the victim.

Quote: LarryS

I do have a serious concern and question though

It seems the people up above are more interested in banning than to help the offended person.

So using me as an example. I am suspended (without complaint) for using the phrase attention whore attached to someone.

So instead of deleting my post or deleting my sentence instead of banning me or in conjunction with banning me......The offensive quote is again reroduced in another thread..so in case someone missed it originally they get a chance to read the offensive item. Then on the banned list..there is a link to the offensuve item in case people no even aware of that thread are curious to see why people are banned. It doesnt seem to help the offended party. In this case it tripled the chances of the item to be viewed. The offended person probably would feel better tosee the offensive material taken off i would think.

It seems there is little empathy for the offended person. It seems the joy is in the punishment and not in helping the feelings of the victim.

It's my understanding that this practice was to avoid censoring people or posts, but still have an open moderation policy. There are no secret suspensions, no star chamber disappearances. Instead of endless "why was that person suspended/nuked/warned" questions, anyone who cares can simply look for themselves. Whether a member agrees or not with the decision, the information is available. It also provides a record for evaluation of possible escalation / repeated offenses tracking. The practice does not apply to those who invoke an instant nuke with advertising/spam/system selling/other transgressions laid out in the rules.

There is no joy in humiliating other people. If that is your impression, I will say it is incorrect for all of us mods, not just me. I would be quite happy to never ban another person. That doesn't mean I won't if I find it necessary.

Quote: beachbumbabs

It's my understanding that this practice was to avoid censoring people or posts, but still have an open moderation policy. There are no secret suspensions, no star chamber disappearances. Instead of endless "why was that person suspended/nuked/warned" questions, anyone who cares can simply look for themselves. Whether a member agrees or not with the decision, the information is available. It also provides a record for evaluation of possible escalation / repeated offenses tracking. The practice does not apply to those who invoke an instant nuke with advertising/spam/system selling/other transgressions laid out in the rules.

There is no joy in humiliating other people. If that is your impression, I will say it is incorrect for all of us mods, not just me. I would be quite happy to never ban another person. That doesn't mean I won't if I find it necessary.

so its more important that the offending party feels good about the process?
A banning along with a PM to the offender solves the problem if the offensive material is deleted.It solves the idea of secret bannings. The offender is kept in the loop.

while you trumpet that mrxxx got banned for using "idiot".

you are also

trumpeting that Mrgdx was called an idiot to more people than originally saw

I would think that if something is so offensive to cause removal of a poster for a certain period of time.......its offensive enough to remove out of respect for the victim

Personally I have no dog in the fight....nothing anyone could write about me could bother me to the point where I want it or the person removed. But I realize there are more fragile people in this world that would need the offending item removed.

its ok to keep offensive material publsihed on this site for bookkeeping reasons? How offensive could it be..... if the victim is ignored...(rhetorical.)

No, that's not what I said, but I don't know any way to be clearer about my understanding, so if someone else cares to try, they can. What you reiterated puts all kinds of wrong assumptions and misinterpretations into what I said. It's possible you're correct about the intent, but I don't see it, though the Wiz does call it the "wall of shame", so he may intend it as a public reminder of bad behavior. Perhaps he'll answer you.

Quote: beachbumbabs

No, that's not what I said, but I don't know any way to be clearer about my understanding, so if someone else cares to try, they can. What you reiterated puts all kinds of wrong assumptions and misinterpretations into what I said. It's possible you're correct about the intent, but I don't see it, though the Wiz does call it the "wall of shame", so he may intend it as a public reminder of bad behavior. Perhaps he'll answer you.

that would be fun

I look at B6 suspension and its so "shameful" he used the word "einstein" and "shifty". I can understand the stigma.

its not like it shows up on our professional resume. Its not like our children will be adversely affected. Its not like my marriage will dissolve. Its not like my neihgbors will shun me.

In the grand scheme of things......who really experiences "shame"


seems there is an elevated sense of importance of this board.

If I said Einstein too many times and got nuked.......would I be ashamed?

Hardly

I would accept it and move on

People have died defending the freedom of Mr Shackleford to ban,censor or delete...its a private board and no shame to be thrown off by someone who happened to be in a bad mood.

it happens

life goes on

Quote: LarryS

that would be fun

I look at B6 suspension and its so "shameful" he used the word "einstein" and "shifty". I can understand the stigma.

its not like it shows up on our professional resume. Its not like our children will be adversely affected. Its not like my marriage will dissolve. Its not like my neihgbors will shun me.

In the grand scheme of things......who really experiences "shame"


seems there is an elevated sense of importance of this board.

If I said Einstein too many times and got nuked.......would I be ashamed?

Hardly

I would accept it and move on

People have died defending the freedom of Mr Shackleford to ban,censor or delete...its a private board and no shame to be thrown off by someone who happened to be in a bad mood.

it happens

life goes on

Yes, Larry, I agree: it's tough to be ashamed of being rude to a new member, "implying" she's an attention whore, and insulting her to the point of driving her away, when you can hide between the anonymity of a pseudonym on an internet chat board. Mr. Shackleford believes that people should take responsibility for what they say, and act courteously while they do. So he protects their right to say it without censorship of their posts, and ensures their courteousness by having rules he enforces on a board he pays to operate. It's pretty simple to understand, and pretty generous of him, don't you think?

Quote: LarryS

you said the wizard when he is in a bad mood can go on a banning spree.

Oh, yeah, you're right. I did. And he does.

Quote: LarryS

I do have a serious concern and question though

It seems the people up above are more interested in banning than to help the offended person.

So using me as an example. I am suspended (without complaint) for using the phrase attention whore attached to someone.

So instead of deleting my post or deleting my sentence instead of banning me or in conjunction with banning me......The offensive quote is again reproduced in another thread.

I'm not interested in banning. I hate banning. I think it shouldn't be necessary. It just happens that it is.

And I think, based on my actions recently and as far back as I can remember, that my help focuses even more so on the offender than the offended. Anyone can feel free to correct me if I'm found wrong.

Using your incident as an example, I didn't PM Anabelle. I didn't address her in post. I addressed only you, with a quote from a discussion between you and Wiz where the rules were explained. I did so not to shame, but to remind you and anyone else who had question what the rules were to avoid losing members for periods of time. The ban came as the result of the rules. The ban was what, I suppose, "protected" Anabelle. But my effort went to you.

Same with B9. My way-too-long post wasn't to shame, it was a genuine effort to try to get rid of any confusion, offer constructive criticism, and get to a point where bans aren't even considered. If I have an interest in bans, it is only to make them unnecessary.

As for deleting posts, that is not within my power. Yeah, I can, but I've not been instructed to do so. Everything here is the property of Wiz, and I'd not dispose of his property without leave.

I know back in the day they were used as reference. In the early stages of bans, they were sort of categorized. If you got dinged 3 days for spam and later incurred a suspension for insults, you didn't get the martingale policy because the infractions weren't related. They were also used as reference. As you can see as I did with you, I checked your history before deciding on length. The list showed you haven't been banned in almost a year, so no need for me (IMO) to continue the martingale and give you 14 days. And lastly, even way back when bans were unheard of, the forum loved to discuss they why and how of them. Even back then, people gave their opinion, and Wiz took them into consideration. The list was able to keep everyone informed of the going's on, which not only opened up the opportunity for debate, but also prevented Wiz from answering 100 questions.

Quote: beachbumbabs

Yes, Larry, I agree: it's tough to be ashamed of being rude to a new member, "implying" she's an attention whore, and insulting her to the point of driving her away, when you can hide between the anonymity of a pseudonym on an internet chat board.

Ya know, to be fair. Mike himself said the stuff
the 'Chinaman' supposedly told her was crap.
All Larry did (and me) was make something
funny out of it.

Quote: EvenBob

Ya know, to be fair. Mike himself said the stuff
the 'Chinaman' supposedly told her was crap.
All Larry did (and me) was make something
funny out of it.

But the funny led to nasty, well at least by one of you, which is why the suspension was handed down.

Sometimes we should just leave things alone and yes, just get along :)

Quote: EvenBob

Ya know, to be fair. Mike himself said the stuff
the 'Chinaman' supposedly told her was crap.
All Larry did (and me) was make something
funny out of it.

I disagree. It started there, but it had escalated way past "fun" by the time it reached the post he got suspended for. There were several borderline insulting things in the posts previous to that one, which might possibly have made sense to Anabelle had she known about JJ, but she was brand new and reading with no context increasingly accusatory and offensive things, not about the Chinaman, but about her. If she WAS "another JJ", she said nothing herself (in any thread; I read them all) that would implicate her; it was laid onto her by Larry and perhaps other people by assumption of her motives.

We've had the discussion just recently, and I thought members were in general agreement, that the forum could improve by making new members more welcome. Epic fail by the members, not by Anabelle. And, since the word itself is part of the discussion, shameful behavior.

Quote: beachbumbabs

Yes, Larry, I agree: it's tough to be ashamed of being rude to a new member, "implying" she's an attention whore, and insulting her to the point of driving her away, when you can hide between the anonymity of a pseudonym on an internet chat board. Mr. Shackleford believes that people should take responsibility for what they say, and act courteously while they do. So he protects their right to say it without censorship of their posts, and ensures their courteousness by having rules he enforces on a board he pays to operate. It's pretty simple to understand, and pretty generous of him, don't you think?

well then. it seems I am fighting for her honor which you will not do. if i make a mistake and post something that you dont like, fair enough. Its not about me me me. Its about the victim. So whether i feel ashamed to the point of crying and entering into depression, or whether i whistle a merry tune......you cant control that.
But youCAN control the effects on the victim by deleting the offending post orline

I doubt seriously B-6 was ashamed. He was more frustrated as i read his posts. If you think peoples lives are changed by not posting here....you are mistaken.

If i said that what you said makes me want to puke....that would be kind of rude.....but that line was directed at the anonymous poster yesterday by someone other than myself. I doubt that poster was full of angst over the puke comment today, I doubt the person who told her she was living on fantasy island is ashamed. You cant control shame from where you sit. The stakes are not grand here.

If someone who knows me insults me its more meaningful than a nobody behind a screen. What kind of weight can a single poster carry that could make me feel insulted. Unless I wanted to throw a tantrum like a spoiled child for no reason.....and overact my hurt and angst.......it really is immaterial what people say

Which is why I am not hurt by peoples comments of me, and I am not ashamed of comments to others....because I dont know them and they dont know me.
There is nothing I can say about you or that you can say about me that can "stick"....that can be valid....because you dont know me....and I dont know you.

So the facts are that you cannot force shame on people on this board. The board is not that important in the grand scheme of things.
That is logical and factual. And if you cannot force shame, then banning only accomplishes something... to make you "feel" shame is occuring....while the victim is left out to dry.

So before telling me how shamefull I shoild feel about not being able to post for a few days....tell me how shameful it is to be able to delete horrible insults but not do so. They must be horrible and insulting because someone was sent to the corner.

Its like a teacher in school who walks into the class and a boy had written "jimmy smith is an idiot"on the blackboard....the teacher finds out who did it....sends the boy to the principals office.....but leaves that saying on the board for the semester. What about jimmy smith. Oh who cares.....at least the other boy was punished .
And after a while the offending boy asks the teacher "why is the slogan"jimmy smith is an idiot" still on the board....the answer is.....it doesnt matter...as long as you felt shame...thats what really counts. And the offending boy says.......whether I can measure my shame to meet your standards..whats the difference....its still there for jimmy to see. Why are you so indifferent to the victim the boy asks.......and the teacher gives him detention because she is in a bad mood...the end/

Quote: Tomspur

But the funny led to nasty, well at least by one of you, which is why the suspension was handed down.

Sometimes we should just leave things alone and yes, just get along :)

In an earlier post on this thread that the suspension was warented. On another post in the originating thread where the ban occured, I apologized. Somehow this has become about me, as if I am complaining. Never once did I challenge my suspension.

I am asking why......well never mind... in a nutshell being an advocate for the "victims"...wondering why the punishment is there with no remedy for the victim

see my analogy above

again how it turns to me is just a matter of fogging the issue being posed, and turning it back on me as if I am moaning about a suspension.

I may be moaning about b6suspension but not mine.


If i could learn to debate like an android with no feeling, humour, color, nuance,sarcasm, .....i could be more to your liking.....but alas that will not happen. If I could communicate in binary code rather than the words I type, I could lower myself to standards of others.

Quote: beachbumbabs

And, since the word itself is part of the discussion, shameful behavior.

That's your opinion. I didn't look at any of it as being
shameful, over the top maybe, but not shameful.
Looking back on my feelings at the time, I thought she
was joking about the Chinaman. Then she quoted
him again and I knew something was up. So I had
fun with it, so did Larry and others. The Chinaman
is a famous figure on gambling forums, he's always
popping up here and there to give validity to a story
being told. Only the people quoting him don't know
that, they think he's original with them. I don't know
why they pick him, Chinese do not have the rep of
being the wisest gamblers.

Quote: LarryS

If i could learn to debate like an android with no feeling, humour, color, nuance,sarcasm, .....i could be more to your liking.....but alas that will not happen. If I could communicate in binary code rather than the words I type, I could lower myself to standards of others.

I blocked Larry but made the mistake of reading another of his posts.

I think it about time Larry quits having veiled digs at people. I don't care what you decide to call me, veiled or otherwise, in fact it would be best to say it to each others faces I would assume. At least then we could reason and talk about our feelings.

The problem is, here it is not allowed. Not only do we have to respect new members but we have to firstly and fortemostly repsect each other.

It appears to me that you struggle with that concept. If you don't have anything good or decent or contributary to say, just say nothing. This has stood me in good stead my entire life!

Quote: Tomspur

I blocked Larry but made the mistake of reading another of his posts.

I think it about time Larry quits having veiled digs at people. I don't care what you decide to call me, veiled or otherwise, in fact it would be best to say it to each others faces I would assume. At least then we could reason and talk about our feelings.

The problem is, here it is not allowed. Not only do we have to respect new members but we have to firstly and fortemostly repsect each other.

It appears to me that you struggle with that concept. If you don't have anything good or decent or contributary to say, just say nothing. This has stood me in good stead my entire life!

We can't all be saints. If we all acted in the same manner, even you would be board.

Quote: AxelWolf

We can't all be saints. If we all acted in the same manner, even you would be board.

I'm no saint, I like to joke and make lude remarks all the time, I just don't aim them at others on this forum. I could perhaps think unsavoury things of some people but I choose to not fill my mind with that crap. I choose to be here, I choose to interact with all of you.

If I wanted to sling mud I would go to my local pub, slap the first bald guy I see on the head and ask him if he has a problem wtih people with hair!!!! Oh yeah, and the bigger he is the better!!!!

Quote: Tomspur

I blocked Larry [..]

I'd no idea other people used the block function ;)

Hmm...I thought I was done in this thread, but considering that I was suspended for "slurs", I think I need to point out...

Quote: beachbumbabs

...and reading with no context increasingly accusatory and offensive things, not about the Chinaman, but about her.

It's interesting that a mod talks about "offensive things" but then uses a racial slur immediately afterwards.


From The Free Dictionary:

Quote:

Chi·na·man (chī′nə-mən)
n. Offensive
A Chinese man.

From List of Ethnic Slurs:

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Chinaman: Found offensive, although it is a translation of the Chinese 中國人. It was used in the gold rush and railway-construction eras in western North America, when discrimination against Chinese was common.

From Chinaman (term):

Quote:

Chinaman is a contentious English language term that denotes a Chinese man or person.

Although the term has no negative connotations in older dictionaries...the term Chinaman is noted as offensive by modern dictionaries.

In fact, just two weeks ago the New York Mets were forced to apologize after their pitching coach used the very same racial slur.

From NY Mets and pitching coach Dan Warthen apologize for racial slur:

Quote:

Dan Warthen and the Mets were issuing apologies Wednesday night after a report in the Wall Street Journal accused the pitching coach of using a racial slur in the clubhouse Monday...

Now we've got a mod using racial slurs. How's that for irony?

Quote: Nareed

Quote: Tomspur

I blocked Larry [..]

I'd no idea other people used the block function ;)

It's kind of like when you're a kid and you plug both ears and say, NAH, NHA, NHA I CAN'T HEAR YOU.

If someone blocked me and then announced it to the entire forum, even once, I would take that as a personal insult. Just block them already.

What's the P word?

Quote: Beethoven9th

Hmm...I thought I was done in this thread, but considering that I was suspended for "slurs", I think I need to point out...

Quote: beachbumbabs

...and reading with no context increasingly accusatory and offensive things, not about the Chinaman, but about her.

It's interesting that a mod talks about "offensive things" but then uses a racial slur immediately afterwards.


From The Free Dictionary:

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Chi·na·man (chī′nə-mən)
n. Offensive
A Chinese man.

From List of Ethnic Slurs:

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Chinaman: Found offensive, although it is a translation of the Chinese 中國人. It was used in the gold rush and railway-construction eras in western North America, when discrimination against Chinese was common.

From Chinaman (term):

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Chinaman is a contentious English language term that denotes a Chinese man or person.

Although the term has no negative connotations in older dictionaries...the term Chinaman is noted as offensive by modern dictionaries.

In fact, just two weeks ago the New York Mets were forced to apologize after their pitching coach used the very same racial slur.

From NY Mets and pitching coach Dan Warthen apologize for racial slur:

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Dan Warthen and the Mets were issuing apologies Wednesday night after a report in the Wall Street Journal accused the pitching coach of using a racial slur in the clubhouse Monday...

Now we've got a mod using racial slurs. How's that for irony?

The claim will be that some things will slip by every now and then. There's only one thing left to do. Suspend the entire forum, every member, for three days. That will show 'em! Put us all in that dastardly hall of shame. Oh, the humanity.

Quote: 1BB

Quote: Beethoven9th

Now we've got a mod using racial slurs. How's that for irony?

The claim will be that some things will slip by every now and then.

So one's own racial slur slipped by oneself?!? LOL :)

Quote: Beethoven9th

So one's own racial slur slipped by oneself?!? LOL :)

Ha ha. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. :-)

This forum is like driving down the highway. Sometimes its just your turn for a speeding ticket. Why you? why me? When there are others speeding, Because its just your turn to get caught that's why.

I would also like to announce that I am blocking 1BB lol.

Quote: rainman

This forum is like driving down the highway. Sometimes its just your turn for a speeding ticket. Why you? why me? When there are others speeding, Because its just your turn to get caught that's why.

I would also like to announce that I am blocking 1BB lol.

Waaah, waaah. Block me and hurt my feelings. I must go self medicate. :-)

Quote: 1BB

If someone blocked me and then announced it to the entire forum, even once, I would take that as a personal insult. Just block them already.

I'm not insulted by being blocked by at least one person and even having it announced...