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Beethoven9th
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January 14th, 2014 at 4:41:42 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

You're caught up in some altercation with another member? Amazing. Wonder why that happens? Nobody can figure it out? Just another mystery.


Nope, it's a perceived altercation, not a real one. And you obviously didn't read my previous posts in this thread. (As usual)
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January 14th, 2014 at 4:46:43 AM permalink
Quote: miplet

1. click on their name.
2. change the word member to block in url.



Ingenious! Thank you.

Ummm, let's see, gotta unblock Miplet now [g]
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January 14th, 2014 at 4:58:43 AM permalink
Too much drama with this guy. Gr8hoven9th smacks every lib about their nonsensical and unsupportable positions. They gotta have thicker skin than that to stand up for themselves on the Internet. Or, as was mentioned, block the individuals and/or threads that bother you and go on with life...
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January 14th, 2014 at 5:16:05 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

I didn't run him off though. In fact, he was almost begging to meet me (multiple times!) only just a few weeks ago. Here's a sample:

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/blackjack/16164-viva-ace-vega/4/#post300043


And here was my initial reply from earlier:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/3853-discussion-about-the-suspension-list/194/#post311911

LOL....I was just busting your balls.
Read my post concerning this, obviously he has some issues.

BTW the links you provided were far from begging. perhaps I missed some prior posts.
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January 14th, 2014 at 5:45:10 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

LOL....I was just busting your balls.
Read my post concerning this, obviously he has some issues.

OK, cool.....I misunderstood. (Sorry)


Quote: AxelWolf

BTW the links you provided were far from begging. perhaps I missed some prior posts.

I only linked to one of his posts, but he did ask me multiple times to meet up with him even though I kept telling him no. (I didn't feel like sifting through all of his messages to find them. I figured one would be enough to show that he did a complete 180 over the past few weeks.)
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January 14th, 2014 at 6:00:15 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

I figured one would be enough to show that he did a complete 180 over the past few weeks.)



Not so much for those they stay out of the politic stuff. But if he asked you to meet multiple times leading up the nuggets challenge, it is odd. Because unless you were on the fence about going for the challenge, it's pretty moot. As for myself, I'd liked to have went, but I knew I wasn't going to make it.
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January 14th, 2014 at 6:01:27 AM permalink
Quote: chickenman

Too much drama with this guy. Gr8hoven9th smacks every lib about their nonsensical and unsupportable positions. They gotta have thicker skin than that to stand up for themselves on the Internet. Or, as was mentioned, block the individuals and/or threads that bother you and go on with life...

This should be your first clue there is something wrong with your viewpoint. If you must always be putting labels on people calling them liberals, you're covering for your insecurities trying to avoid your weaknesses. Avoid this.
People come to reality. You have to live your beliefs and not make excuses and exceptions. In politics, Republicans have preached tax cuts and bumped spending, but when a Democrat is In charge, they're innocent and it's dirty liberals spending the credit card to blame. The point is to play these games played here and everywhere else, you need to ignore the facts to win these pretend battles of good versus evil. These arguments on politics are not much better than a Jerry Springer brawl and are as just as fake. Simplicity of the ideas you see is just an illusion most of the time. It's why people don't just respond with you're right and I'm wrong.

Personally I think the arguments wind up being one side miscategorizing the facts the same as saying one bird plus three eggs equals four birds then each side does the same saying no three birds plus an egg equals four birds. Say, you're not a moron watching pro wrestling into your twenties and beyond, but you do with the politics still. I've been everywhere with the political spectrum and can say the only view which is correct is reality. Reality is this politics of red versus blue is a total sham and is the same but pulled off better than wrestling with disagreements perfectly chosen to keep people distracted.

Instead of calling people a liberal, next time ask yourself, is it possible I'm really whom the idiot is?
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January 14th, 2014 at 6:23:58 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

Instead of calling people a liberal, next time ask yourself, is it possible I'm really whom the idiot is?


The quitter labeled himself as a 'liberal'.
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January 14th, 2014 at 6:27:00 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

But if he asked you to meet multiple times leading up the nuggets challenge, it is odd.


I agree. It was very odd considering that I made it clear I wasn't going. It's also very strange how he was so eager to meet me one day, and then a few weeks later, I'm Attila the Hun. Oh well, no loss at all.
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January 14th, 2014 at 6:34:58 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

This should be your first clue there is something wrong with your viewpoint. If you must always be putting labels on people calling them liberals, you're covering for your insecurities trying to avoid your weaknesses. Avoid this.


Instead of calling people a liberal, next time ask yourself, is it possible I'm really whom the idiot is?


Oh, thanx sooooo much for the homily. I'll try to improve...;-)

But a couple of points since you obviously missed them:
1. Was just stating what should be held as a fact by even the most cursory readings, 9th busts the chops of every lib poster on the board. Ed wimped out dramatically rather than manning up.
2. People's viewpoints label them, not I. Plus, he explicitly held hisownself out as a lib.

Ask yourself the question as I am not an idiot so I don't appreciate that backhanded attack here. BTW, "whom" is not used correctly in your post :P
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January 14th, 2014 at 6:48:01 AM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

I had broken a promise made to myself after my first suspension. I promised myself I would not go around my laptop when drinking. I've taken two months off through the holidays and slipped into drinking more than I should, and making internet posts while drunk. I broke my promise to myself. If you can dish it out you have to be able to take it. I don't blame anyone else but myself for my suspensions. I deserved what I got. I'm a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde type. I suffer from "ten foot tall and bullet proof" syndrome when I get drunk. My middle of the night posts do not contribute anything to the furtherance of gambling knowledge, strategy. They are nothing but the ignorant blabberings of a drunken egotistical maniac. I apologize to anyone I may have offended. All I can do is start over and see if I can keep this promise to myself.



Mickey - Welcome back. No need to apologize to me, I didn't see any harm in what you wrote. I'm looking forward to reading more about your life experiences, I find them both entertaining and educational.
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January 14th, 2014 at 6:54:24 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

The quitter labeled himself as a 'liberal'.

Godless swine, can you even comprehend it doesn't matter? Do you read my sarcasm? These ideologies aren't sold on what's best, it's based on what people will BUY.
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January 14th, 2014 at 6:56:17 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

The pic is already posted elsewhere on the forum, should
I take it down also? Give me a break.



That's not even close to what I wrote. Give me a break.

The picture that was posted occurred when he was an active member of the forum, and it happened at an event where other forum members were present. The photo had a positive connotation associated with it. If he wanted the photo pulled then, all he had to do was ask.

Contrast that to the same photo you republished in this thread. The conversation here was in a negative context, and he is no longer a member here. So he would not have a reasonable chance to request that it be taken down. And what purpose did it serve to republish the picture here? Perhaps a scarlet letter?
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January 14th, 2014 at 7:07:06 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

Godless swine, can you even comprehend it doesn't matter? Do you read my sarcasm?


Oh, then you're not very good at sarcasm. lol
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January 14th, 2014 at 7:11:23 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Oh, then you're not very good at sarcasm. lol


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January 14th, 2014 at 7:12:38 AM permalink
Quote: chickenman

Oh, thanx sooooo much for the homily. I'll try to improve...;-)

But a couple of points since you obviously missed them:
1. Was just stating what should be held as a fact by even the most cursory readings, 9th busts the chops of every lib poster on the board. Ed wimped out dramatically rather than manning up.
2. People's viewpoints label them, not I. Plus, he explicitly held hisownself out as a lib.

Ask yourself the question as I am not an idiot so I don't appreciate that backhanded attack here. BTW, "whom" is not used correctly in your post :P

Total bull. We both know liberal is a derogatory word. If you have the high ground, you don't need to stoop so low and it should be beneath you. As far as who or whom, I felt the use of whom was appropriate because "I" was the subject. It's so easy to screw up so you might be right. The real rule should be use who all the time and most will never know. I normally stay out of political discussions because it's just masterbatory, but you guys waste on it if you want. As seen on TV is almost always junk including the political theater.
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January 14th, 2014 at 7:19:24 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

Total bull. We both know liberal is a derogatory word. If you have the high ground, you don't need to stoop so low and it should be beneath you. As far as who or whom, I felt the use of whom was appropriate because "I" was the subject. It's so easy to screw up so you might be right. The real rule should be use who all the time and most will never know. I normally stay out of political discussions because it's just masterbatory, but you guys waste on it if you want. As seen on TV is almost always junk including the political theater.


Still missing the point but some do forever.
Actually, you ARE right about using "who" always because most don't know the usage and "whom" has to to be one of the usages most get wrong and it really sticks out when an objective pronoun is used in a subjective case.

Now, enough grammar: back to bashing the socialists...:-)
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January 14th, 2014 at 7:21:27 AM permalink
Quote: RaleighCraps

That's not even close to what I wrote. Give me a break.

The picture that was posted occurred when he was an active member of the forum, and it happened at an event where other forum members were present. The photo had a positive connotation associated with it. If he wanted the photo pulled then, all he had to do was ask.

Contrast that to the same photo you republished in this thread. The conversation here was in a negative context, and he is no longer a member here. So he would not have a reasonable chance to request that it be taken down. And what purpose did it serve to republish the picture here? Perhaps a scarlet letter?



I believe terapined is still considered a member and therefore cannot be insulted without consequences. Be careful guys. I don't want to see anyone else leave.
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January 14th, 2014 at 7:30:13 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

Total bull. We both know liberal is a derogatory word.



Only when used as such. Liberal is a fine word in many other contexts.
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January 14th, 2014 at 7:48:22 AM permalink
Quote: 1BB

I believe terapined is still considered a member and therefore cannot be insulted without consequences. Be careful guys. I don't want to see anyone else leave.

He's sensitive it seems and I do feel bad for him after realizing whom it was when Bob shared his pic.
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January 14th, 2014 at 8:30:06 AM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

I had broken a promise made to myself after my first suspension. I promised myself I would not go around my laptop when drinking. I've taken two months off through the holidays and slipped into drinking more than I should, and making internet posts while drunk. I broke my promise to myself. If you can dish it out you have to be able to take it. I don't blame anyone else but myself for my suspensions. I deserved what I got. I'm a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde type. I suffer from "ten foot tall and bullet proof" syndrome when I get drunk. My middle of the night posts do not contribute anything to the furtherance of gambling knowledge, strategy. They are nothing but the ignorant blabberings of a drunken egotistical maniac. I apologize to anyone I may have offended. All I can do is start over and see if I can keep this promise to myself.

Now, THATS funny
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January 14th, 2014 at 8:50:53 AM permalink
If you want to quit the forum and it is not a gambling addiction issue, you can just leave and never come back. I don't understand this falling on my sword please suspend me stuff. There are times I take a one-two week break without holding a press conference and I am sure nobody notices or really cares.
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January 14th, 2014 at 8:57:27 AM permalink
Quote: hook3670

If you want to quit the forum and it is not a gambling addiction issue, you can just leave and never come back. I don't understand this falling on my sword please suspend me stuff. There are times I take a one-two week break without holding a press conference and I am sure nobody notices or really cares.

When I disappear, they start advertising on milk cartons looking for me. Still when I stop posting I Don't make an announcement but some people do so others don't wonder. I guess it's really just part of the compulsion being unable to not post until they post about it.
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January 14th, 2014 at 11:14:53 AM permalink
Quote: chickenman


1. Was just stating what should be held as a fact by even the most cursory readings, 9th busts the chops of every lib poster on the board.



bust (someone's) chops
1. To scold or insult someone.

Freudian. His defender could have used a word or phrase to indicate someone who only wins debates or argues well, not insults people and thus no other possible meaning. But could he hide what he was really thinking? Could he?

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January 14th, 2014 at 11:19:11 AM permalink
If you can not defend your position, liberal or conservative, then maybe you need to stop posting them. Just saying !
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January 14th, 2014 at 12:17:44 PM permalink
LOL! Someone needs to read further down the list AND make non-lame links.

bust (someone's) chops
1. To scold or insult someone.
2. To disappoint or defeat someone.
3. To hold a building contractor to the letter of an agreement.

Source: The Free Dictionary
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January 14th, 2014 at 1:17:34 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

LOL! Someone needs to read further down the list AND make non-lame links.

bust (someone's) chops
1. To scold or insult someone.
2. To disappoint or defeat someone.
3. To hold a building contractor to the letter of an agreement.

Source: The Free Dictionary



Yup, I said he could have picked a non-ambiguous choice. Just a Freudian slip probably on his part.

Number 2 choice is laughable, unless bobbing and weaving is defeating. Although you disappoint.
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January 14th, 2014 at 1:22:47 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Number 2 choice is laughable


Sorry, I'll take The Free Dictionary's word over yours.
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January 14th, 2014 at 1:31:47 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Sorry, I'll take The Free Dictionary's word over yours.



Oh you'll be in one of those "non-altercations" again and again. Just a matter of time. And of course, it will be someone else's fault. lol.

Maybe I should facepalm too like a kiddie garter.

Am I trolling properly?
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January 14th, 2014 at 1:35:52 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Oh you'll be in one of those "non-altercations" again and again.


Yeah, probably with YOU. lol
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January 14th, 2014 at 2:52:21 PM permalink
Will this be a steel cage match on pay-per-view ?
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January 14th, 2014 at 6:53:28 PM permalink
the varmenti and gr8 drama was so much more entertaining than this drama.
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January 14th, 2014 at 7:31:40 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

the varmenti and gr8 drama was so much more entertaining than this drama.



Where is Varmenti, anyway. He's never around when you
need him. Such clarity, such vision, and we forced him away.
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January 17th, 2014 at 4:17:14 PM permalink
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January 17th, 2014 at 4:23:11 PM permalink
I'm not a prolific poster, so feel free to put me in my place, but I think Tim1492 may have caught a bit of a bum rap. 5 days seems steep to me. It may be that I'm just a crude person but
Quote: Tim1492

Could be a little more gracious instead of self righteous pricks.


doesn't rise to my definition of profanity. I think most folks 21 or over would say "prick" is a tame term. PG movies allow limited profanity, violence, and nudity.
http://www.mpaa.org/ratings/what-each-rating-means

Does anyone else have an opinion. I am glad to take this as free advice to watch my tone, but that seems a bit overly sensitive.
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January 17th, 2014 at 4:26:19 PM permalink
Wizard's house, his rules. And this suspension came from Mike himself. Case closed !

Upon reflection Tim 1492 might agree that he was given very valuable advice .
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January 17th, 2014 at 4:39:51 PM permalink
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I think most folks 21 or over would say "prick" is a tame term.


It may not be as severe as an F-bomb, but I don't think it's "tame" either. Also, he directed his ire specifically at forum members, something which has gotten other members suspended as well.
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January 17th, 2014 at 4:48:13 PM permalink
LOL. When I was 12, I saw it written somewhere, walking home from school. I still remember, carved on a railing: "Frankie is a prick." I didn't know what it meant, but it sounded cool, and I'd never heard that word used as a swear word.

That night at dinner, my dad was carrying on at me about something, and I said, "Quit being a prick."

And that is the reason I still remember it.
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January 17th, 2014 at 4:51:31 PM permalink
I make no bones about the fact that he directed his frustration at forum members in a less than professional manner.

However my issue was with deeming it profanity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Picture_Association_of_America_film_rating_system#Language

I think it was not profanity, particularly in light this being a 21+ forum. Otherwise, rule #6 should be changed to "G level."
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January 17th, 2014 at 4:58:40 PM permalink
"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master—that's all."

I think Tim was afraid he would misspell asswholes.
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January 17th, 2014 at 5:36:59 PM permalink
Quote: endermike

I'm not a prolific poster, so feel free to put me in my place, but I think Tim1492 may have caught a bit of a bum rap. 5 days seems steep to me. It may be that I'm just a crude person but

doesn't rise to my definition of profanity. I think most folks 21 or over would say "prick" is a tame term. PG movies allow limited profanity, violence, and nudity.
http://www.mpaa.org/ratings/what-each-rating-means

Does anyone else have an opinion. I am glad to take this as free advice to watch my tone, but that seems a bit overly sensitive.



Some members get away with much worse. That's a fact not an opinion. My opinion is that a guy who takes the time to join the forum and ask a question shouldn't end up suspended on his first day.
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January 17th, 2014 at 5:46:19 PM permalink
It's 5 days. I assume he had a life before stopping here.
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January 17th, 2014 at 7:12:29 PM permalink
Quote: 1BB

My opinion is that a guy who takes the time to join the forum and ask a question shouldn't end up suspended on his first day.


If he breaks the rules, he should be.
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January 17th, 2014 at 7:39:19 PM permalink
The guy posted a negative-progression betting system as his first post. The forum rules say keep betting systems in the betting systems forum. Not only that, but then he reacts negatively and calls the people who took the time to tell him why he is wrong "pricks." If it were up to me, I'd ban him for life. What are the chances this type of poster becomes a valuable contributor? Next to none.
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January 17th, 2014 at 7:49:49 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

The guy posted a negative-progression betting system as his first post. The forum rules say keep betting systems in the betting systems forum. Not only that, but then he reacts negatively and calls the people who took the time to tell him why he is wrong "pricks." If it were up to me, I'd ban him for life. What are the chances this type of poster becomes a valuable contributor? Next to none.



Agreed. There is no rule against betting system players posting but I wish they would take their business over to John Patrick's forum.
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January 17th, 2014 at 8:12:21 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

John Patrick's forum.



Holy crap. I have never seen such a concentration of "thought."

I am now speechless...
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January 17th, 2014 at 8:23:59 PM permalink
Quote: endermike

Holy crap. I have never seen such a concentration of "thought."
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Patrick's board has never been accused of thinking
before, they're flattered.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
Ibeatyouraces
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January 17th, 2014 at 8:30:05 PM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
AxelWolf
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January 17th, 2014 at 10:09:14 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Agreed. There is no rule against betting system players posting but I wish they would take their business over to John Patrick's forum.

But that might include some of your VIP's. I don't really even know who JP is, other then people tossing around his name
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
onenickelmiracle
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January 17th, 2014 at 10:20:54 PM permalink
Rush is a great band ha ha but Lush Rimbaugh is just a PR guy. I can't take him seriously as an honorable truthful person. You don't redefine facts to fit your world view, you change your world view based on the facts.
I am a robot.
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