Discussion about the Suspension List
Quote: DocWell, this could create some difficulty in coordinating the WoVCon activities by posts or PMs.
I will suspend the rule that a ban on one site applies to both WoV and DT. Those recently suspended may post at DT and send PMs. Both privileges are limited to matters concerning WoVCon activities.
Quote: EvenBobWasn't Ahigh going to the WOV get together this
weekend? 10 to 1 he doesn't show up. And if he
does, well, that should be interesting.
The probability would have me losing, but the EV is in my favor, I think. I'll take my $10 against your $100 he shows, if you are interested.
The Peanut Gallery wants Exacta betting, too!Quote: Mission146The probability would have me losing, but the EV is in my favor, I think. I'll take my $10 against your $100 he shows, if you are interested.
Quote: Mission146The probability would have me losing, but the EV is in my favor, I think. I'll take my $10 against your $100 he shows, if you are interested.
who wants to take 1000 to 1 that i show up to wovcon?
Quote: Mission146The probability would have me losing, but the EV is in my favor, I think. I'll take my $10 against your $100 he shows, if you are interested.
Because the person in question has read this and can skew
the results, its not a good bet. And I don't do prop bets
anyway.
Quote: EvenBobBecause the person in question has read this and can skew
the results, its not a good bet. And I don't do prop bets
anyway.
I'm not sure why someone would set odds with no willingness to make the bet...
I won't set odds or offer a bet, but I think AHigh will show up if he said that he was going to be there. He seems to be a stand-up guy when it comes to showing up.
Quote: RonCI'm not sure why someone would set odds with no willingness to make the bet...
.
Its was conversation, not a bet. Its not feasible when
the object of a bet has total control over who wins.
Right?
Quote: EvenBobIts was conversation, not a bet. Its not feasible when
the object of a bet has total control over who wins.
Right?
No need for odds on a conversation...I think he will no show is all that is needed. If you mention odds here as 10-1, someone is likely going to take you up on them.
You are "right" of course...I just thought it was kind of silly to state odds with no intention of a bet.
I don't like to reverse myself on suspensions, for it sets a bad precedent, but I received some cogent arguments by PM that a suspension was deserved, but jumping right to seven days, especially for an otherwise good member, was too strong. So, after considering these opinions, I decided to reduce the ban to three days.
Let the record also reflect it was not me that PM'd you and I did not contest the suspension. I took it like a man !!
If you don't mind though, I think I left my dice in my cell if you can check for them...
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13If you don't mind though, I think I left my dice in my cell if you can check for them...
Welcome back. I'm still testing your dice for bias. The fact that they were made from soap, toothpaste, and toilet paper may have something to do with the already low p value.
Does that mean that next time, he gets to use a Two-Day Early Get Out Of Jail Free card?Quote: WizardLet the record show that Zscore13's suspension was reduced from seven days to three. He actually served five days. .
:)
ZCore13
Quote: DJTeddyBearDoes that mean that next time, he gets to use a Two-Day Early Get Out Of Jail Free card?
Yes, Z13 has a get out of suspension for two days card.
Quote: Zcore13Well I don't think there will be a next time, but it seems I should have 2 days of credit in my back pocket. I wonder if I could sell them on the free market??
ZCore13
I will give you a trillion dollars !
(Mod note: Fixed your link)
Quote: 1BBAnother good poster finds himself a restricted user. This time it's TIMSPEED. What happened?
He may have asked to be shut down. Last thing I saw he said he was hacked.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/off-topic/13238-wovcon-i-date-place-and-time/48/#post244680
Quote: odiousgambitHe may have asked to be shut down. Last thing I saw he said he was hacked.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/off-topic/13238-wovcon-i-date-place-and-time/48/#post244680
Prior to the 'hacked' message, there was something else written in that post. It didn't seem that bad to me, but I could see how someone else might have been offended. Hope TIMSPEED is back soon though since he's a good member.
Quote: Beethoven9thPrior to the 'hacked' message, there was something else written in that post. It didn't seem that bad to me, but I could see how someone else might have been offended. Hope TIMSPEED is back soon though since he's a good member.
I really enjoyed TIMSPEED's post as well. Could a mod give us some insight on why he is banned?
Quote: Mikey75I really enjoyed TIMSPEED's post as well. Could a mod give us some insight on why he is banned?
It was a voluntary suspension. I'm not sure if I can state the reason, but he is welcome back anytime.
Quote: WizardIt was a voluntary suspension. I'm not sure if I can state the reason, but he is welcome back anytime.
Thanks Wizard for letting us know!! I hope he makes it back soon.
It's not a real banning anyway when you can choose to return at any time and it's not like being on a casino exclusion list where there are consequences for attempting to return.
My opinion and mine only is that I would not allow this unless the rules were broken. What did John Houseman say in those Smith Barney commercials? "You've got to earn it".
Quote: 1BBThis is not the first time we've seen this self banning or whatever you want to call it. I can think of at least two others who have done it. I don't get it. If you don't want to post then don't post. Why have your name on the list?
It's not a real banning anyway when you can choose to return at any time and it's not like being on a casino exclusion list where there are consequences for attempting to return.
My opinion and mine only is that I would not allow this unless the rules were broken. What did John Houseman say in those Smith Barney commercials? "You've got to earn it".
It is kind of like the self-exclusion list or having someone hide your smokes. Sometimes the temptation is just too great.
Quote: AZDuffmanIt is kind of like the self-exclusion list or having someone hide your smokes. Sometimes the temptation is just too great.
Yep, did this on PokerStars a few times before my permanent exclusion as a US citizen. Usually when I really needed to get something done, not when I just lost thousands of dollars. Although those moments sucked too. :(
It's like someone fell into a hole. What hole? Let me show you it. Where? Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. He fell in. lol.
Quote: Mikey75I really enjoyed TIMSPEED's post as well. Could a mod give us some insight on why he is banned?
Thanks...
Yeah, my password was compromised, and with the SSL setup of this site and IE9, it "holds" the credentials, so I had Mike nuke my account. (unfortunately, my post history and "years active" makes me look like a noob now)
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/14138-i-have-returned/#post246037
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/video-poker/14215-playing-video-uthe-w-2-to-4-advantage/#post247784
As well as the post before it.
There may be more in that thread, I haven't finished reading it yet, but I'd consider it as stemming from the same occurrence, so barring something especially egregious, it'll be three days.
EDIT: Okay, nothing else in that thread warrants more than an informal Warning.
Quote: BuzzardAm I the only one that thinks we are becoming a bit too civilized ? Or am I just DUMB !
Well, I have to say civilized, or else I'm suspended, haha. Nice trick question...
Quote: BuzzardAm I the only one that thinks we are becoming a bit too civilized ? Or am I just DUMB !
NO and NO!
Quote: FinsRuleMaybe we should have a Wall of Nice. All members with 1000+ (or pick whatever number.. 1580 maybe?) posts who have never been suspended...
How about a "good member" factor. It might be [(# posts)^0.5]/10 - (days on suspension).
Quote: WizardHow about a "good member" factor. It might be [(# posts)^0.5]/10 - (days on suspension).
That means people with more posts are deemed better than people with low posts but more content.
I'd get a 6.5 day reprieve. Does that mean I can take a short suspension 'for free' and say what I really think once? :D
ZCore13
To answer both queries, let me check the, uh, NSA algorithm. Ooops. Too bad, but my access to the data storage complex in Utah has been compromised by some hacker in Hong Kong.Quote: BuzzardAm I the only one that thinks we are becoming a bit too civilized ? Or am I just DUMB !
C'mon Wiz, you could give some warnings once in awhile to regular posters who just happen to get carried away.
Still, your board, your rules.
Quote: RogerKintI seem to recall the Wizard writing that he holds forum members, who are regular posters and have been here longer, to higher standards.
Gee, I hope not.
Quote: WizardHow about a "good member" factor. It might be [(# posts)^0.5]/10 - (days on suspension).
I can't tell if you're serious or sarcastic.
But if you're serious, I think you need to factor in how long person has been a member or average number of posts per day.
Quote: MrVC'mon Wiz, you could give some warnings once in awhile to regular posters who just happen to get carried away... because they're drinking at night
Still, your board, your rules.
FYP, or added to it
Quote: MrVC'mon Wiz, you could give some warnings once in awhile to regular posters who just happen to get carried away.
I give warnings sometimes. However, it is an obvious violation, or the member has a bad history, I don't have much patience. I view suspension like a time out, which some members need sometimes.
Quote: JB"aKaWRONGLIAR" has been banned for joining the forum for the purpose of contributing nothing but attacks and insults.
5 insulting posts in less than an hour, that has
to b a record. His name is Wrong Liar? Ok.....
