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MonkeyMonkey
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July 2nd, 2013 at 2:18:23 PM permalink
Quote: JB

The rule I invoked was #13. I don't believe for one second that "YesThereReal" was as dumb as he/she was pretending to be.



I was confused because the original stated reason was trolling and the behavior didn't seem to match.

Quote: tupp

Wasn't able to press my final test, but I'm pretty sure that YesThereReal is a cleverbot.



What was the final test?

Quote: AZDuffman

I think it falls under the "definition of pornography" guide of know-it-when-you-see-it.



That's where my confusion comes from. I've seen worse examples of all YesThereReal's behaviors and we continue to tolerate them even now. But I'm prepared to let it go, I've just never seen a banning go down quite like this.
EvenBob
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July 2nd, 2013 at 2:18:34 PM permalink
Quote: tupp

Wasn't able to press my final test, but I'm pretty sure that YesThereReal is a cleverbot.



I agree, it was a robot troll. The spelling was deliberate for sure.
It got too many hard to spell words correct, and easy words
wrong.
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rxwine
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July 2nd, 2013 at 2:23:52 PM permalink
I haven't gone through the posts, but some of the ones I saw seemed to be referring further in the past to previous posts, which suggested a human behind it, rather than a program. At least I haven't seen a bot talk about itself in past tense with much convincing effect.
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rxwine
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July 2nd, 2013 at 2:25:15 PM permalink
Then again, perhaps they are getting that good.
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July 2nd, 2013 at 2:28:00 PM permalink
Quote: MonkeyMonkey

I was confused because the original stated reason was trolling and the behavior didn't seem to match.


Not all trolls are necessarily bullies.
tupp
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July 2nd, 2013 at 2:32:57 PM permalink
Quote: MonkeyMonkey

What was the final test?


The question(s) about the website.

Never got a straight answer that showed the ability to comprehend the other site nor how it related to the question. YesThereReal was disabled just before I posted the most direct question.
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July 2nd, 2013 at 2:35:21 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Then again, perhaps they are getting that good.


Yes, they are getting that good. At first, I thought that YesThereReal was just some kid. Its initial posts were similar to some of the (nearly unintelligible) tweets that I've seen my niece and nephew write. But tupp's post pretty much convinced me otherwise. Cleverbot, all the way!

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Beethoven9th
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July 2nd, 2013 at 2:37:29 PM permalink
Duplicate deleted
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MonkeyMonkey
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July 2nd, 2013 at 2:42:34 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

I haven't gone through the posts, but some of the ones I saw seemed to be referring further in the past to previous posts, which suggested a human behind it, rather than a program. At least I haven't seen a bot talk about itself in past tense with much convincing effect.



As a programmer I'm no genius, it was something I toyed with very seriously for a time, but ultimately found I had other interests that were more compelling to me. That said, if that was a bot I would love to see the code.

Quote: tupp

The question(s) about the website.

Never got a straight answer that showed the ability to comprehend the other site nor how it related to the question. YesThereReal was disabled just before I posted the most direct question.



Probably should have gone to it straight away, some people have their text size controlled locally for whatever reason. She also seemed to be hinting at having dyslexia, but that's a bit of a leap based on my own untwisting of the posts.
tupp
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July 2nd, 2013 at 2:50:55 PM permalink
Quote: MonkeyMonkey

Probably should have gone to it straight away, some people have their text size controlled locally for whatever reason. She also seemed to be hinting at having dyslexia, but that's a bit of a leap based on my own untwisting of the posts.


Actually, the question was embedded in the beginning within the test paragraph. Any non-troll with a normally set browser would have cleared themselves instantly, which is what I was hoping for.

When YesThereReal wouldn't (couldn't) answer about the big words (after I further enlarged them), it was clear that we were dealing with a bot, a troll or someone with strange browser settings. That's when I began to separately scrutinize about the other website(s).

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