Discussion III about the Suspension List
February 24th, 2024 at 7:53:14 AM
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I think the Wizard quick test of "would I feel insulted if someone said that to me" works pretty well and is why "your post is a lie" or "your post is fiction" is insulting.
I wouldn't feel insulted by anyone's saying "your post is hard to believe" about anything to do with my posts. All I have to do is look allll that pretty polly to realize that such an opinion doesn't matter.
I wouldn't feel insulted by anyone's saying "your post is hard to believe" about anything to do with my posts. All I have to do is look allll that pretty polly to realize that such an opinion doesn't matter.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
February 24th, 2024 at 8:02:33 AM
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Quote: MDawg
which he did it again recently by referring to Snoop as the "THE REAL Dog" in more of this sort of thing:
Terapined has this obsession with the word "REAL" and has been suspended or warned
Are you kidding me
I was just trying to be funny
Take a bong hit and chill out
Even a little humor offends you
I posted it to get a laugh, not to be mean or derogatory
I'm amazed how thin your skin is
I apologize to Snoop
Let me correct my spelling
Snoop is the real DOGG
I LOVE SNOOP
He's the real deal
Check it out as he raps to one of my favorite songs, Clint Eastwood
When somebody doesn't believe me, I could care less. Some get totally bent out of shape when not believed. Weird. I believe very little on all forums
February 24th, 2024 at 8:06:39 AM
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Quote: WizardOkay, that was cut #999 of a death by 1,000 cuts. Please dispense with the references to mdawg and worry about your own side of the street. The alternative will be interpreted as trolling.
You already passed 1000 and have been suspended since then....
Quote: WizardThat was cut #1,000. Three-day suspension.
You know what you did, pal.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
February 24th, 2024 at 8:09:02 AM
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Quote: MDawgQuote: WizardOkay, that was cut #999 of a death by 1,000 cuts. Please dispense with the references to mdawg and worry about your own side of the street. The alternative will be interpreted as trolling.
You already passed 1000 and have been suspended since then....
You know what you did, pal.
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I made a joke
Hopefully somebody in the forum smiled
Geez
Lighten up
The post was an attempt to ease the tension in the forum with a joke, not to make you angry
Sorry
When somebody doesn't believe me, I could care less. Some get totally bent out of shape when not believed. Weird. I believe very little on all forums
February 24th, 2024 at 8:11:32 AM
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Thank you. I am not angry, just think it has to stop at some point...I already posted in your thread that I have no problem with your thread and complimented you as well "Right now he seems to be doing Wizard a great service by providing ground service on the machine Wizard is investigating."
Prove me wrong that you are capable of getting your mind off MDawg then.
Prove me wrong that you are capable of getting your mind off MDawg then.
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I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
February 24th, 2024 at 8:28:40 AM
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Quote: MDawgProve me wrong that you are capable of getting your mind off MDawg then.
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You are asking me to prove something ???????????
ROTFL
Fascinating
Do you have a challenge in mind?
Maybe, just maybe, you are incapable of getting your mind off my Adventures thread
The majority of my recent adventures posts have absolutely nothing to do with you
Take this pic I posted
I like the Vegas street art. Believe me, you were not on my mind when I posted this. Not every dog on the planet is about you
When somebody doesn't believe me, I could care less. Some get totally bent out of shape when not believed. Weird. I believe very little on all forums
February 24th, 2024 at 8:30:49 AM
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I didn't even notice that picture I don't really look at them as they take too long to load.
You might want to discuss that with the forum see why they take so long to load.
Anyway, as I posted above:
You might want to discuss that with the forum see why they take so long to load.
Anyway, as I posted above:
Quote: MDawgThank you. I am not angry, just think it has to stop at some point...I already posted in your thread that I have no problem with your thread and complimented you as well "Right now he seems to be doing Wizard a great service by providing ground service on the machine Wizard is investigating."
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I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
February 24th, 2024 at 8:31:32 AM
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Quote: MDawgThere is no subtlety between "I don't believe you" and "You are a liar."
The subtlety might be between "I don't believe you" and "your post is a lie" or "your post is fiction" but nevertheless the last two are suspendable offenses, on the Wizard enumerated grounds that they are offensive and insulting to the writer, which they are. Also, think about the intent of someone who writes "your post is a lie" or "your post is fiction" it is obviously intended to roil deliberately the writer and meant as an insult.
Where we get into real subtlety is why it was not okay to call Mission146 a big fan but it was okay for Terapined to refer to me as a fan of his. At least Mission146 was spending time working on my posts, while I have posted once only in Terapined's thread and that wasn't a show of support it was more of a point of clarification as to why he keeps trolling MDawg,Quote: WizardOkay, that was cut #999 of a death by 1,000 cuts. Please dispense with the references to mdawg and worry about your own side of the street. The alternative will be interpreted as trolling.
which he did it again recently by referring to Snoop as the "THE REAL Dog" in more of this sort of thing:Quote: Marcusclark66Why do you feel the need to indirectly pay homage to the Fantastic and Great MDawg with every single post you make? You seem to be thinking about him every time you post? The first few words at the beginning of EVERY SINGLE POST you make are supposed to be directed at him, no?
Terapined has this obsession with the word "REAL" and has been suspended or warnedQuote: WizardWarning issued indeed for personal insult and inappropriate content.
multiple times over its misuse in a trolling way.
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Whoa.. some observations.
Tone is important. One sounded confrontational, one sounded jovial.
Punching up vs punching down does shift the perception a bit.
May the cards fall in your favor.
February 24th, 2024 at 8:37:38 AM
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However, the Terapined post was beyond 1000/1000 in a documented long line of MDawg trolling paper cuts, and came directly on the heels of his being given a break and warned (again) about yet another MDawg trolling comment, so in that context....
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
February 24th, 2024 at 8:44:50 AM
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Quote: MDawgHowever, the Terapined post was beyond 1000/1000 in a documented long line of MDawg trolling paper cuts, and came directly on the heels of his being given a break and warned (again), so in that context....
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By the way
It's not Terapined
It's
terapined
The capital T offends me
I'm not that important
Please go with the lower case :-)
When somebody doesn't believe me, I could care less. Some get totally bent out of shape when not believed. Weird. I believe very little on all forums
February 24th, 2024 at 10:48:41 AM
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Quote: MDawgMagister was a KewlJ sock puppet, as AxelWolf suspected from the start.
Axel doesn't think so (see his comment above), so....where is your PROOF of your claim?
Perhaps you obsess too much over KJ: I mean he seems to occupy the mezzanine in your mind, based on your continual attacks.
But hey, I understand why you might be upset at him, given his sharp efforts to prove your claims, how shall I word it without being consigned once again to the dunking stool: as being "suspect?"
"What, me worry?"
February 24th, 2024 at 11:05:42 AM
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Quote: MrVQuote: MDawgMagister was a KewlJ sock puppet, as AxelWolf suspected from the start.
Axel doesn't think so (see his comment above), so....where is your PROOF of your claim?
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What's going with you today V and the misreading? Re-Read what AxelWolf wrote.
Anyway, just like when a casino gives you the boot and doesn't always tell you exactly why (for obvious reasons), neither need it be disclosed how KewlJ gave himself away.
As far as this:
Quote: MrVPerhaps you obsess too much over KJ: I mean he seems to occupy the mezzanine in your mind, based on your continual attacks.
But hey, I understand why you might be upset at him, given his sharp efforts to prove your claims, how shall I word it without being consigned once again to the dunking stool: as being "suspect?"
I barely even responded to Magister and even told him that I was going to ignore him because I suspected that he was nothing more than a previously banned member.
Quote: MDawgI apologize but it's just hard to muster up the desire to respond to this Magister character when established forum members seem to think that he's not a legitimate forum member. So if I ignore you from here on, that's why. Sorry, pal, you have to earn the right to get a response out of MDawg and apparently sneaking onto a forum in disguise when you appear to be someone banned from the past is not the way.
Shortly afterwards, Magister aka KewlJ was nuked.
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I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
February 24th, 2024 at 11:12:56 AM
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I was fairly certain Magister was KJ from the very first post. I believe I called him out on it on VCT? It was so not important that I don't remember.Quote: MrVQuote: MDawgMagister was a KewlJ sock puppet, as AxelWolf suspected from the start.
Axel doesn't think so (see his comment above), so....where is your PROOF of your claim?
Perhaps you obsess too much over KJ: I mean he seems to occupy the mezzanine in your mind, based on your continual attacks.
But hey, I understand why you might be upset at him, given his sharp efforts to prove your claims, how shall I word it without being consigned once again to the dunking stool: as being "suspect?"
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I just didn't believe JK and the new dogislying were the same people.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
February 24th, 2024 at 11:21:50 AM
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Mods, who was Youlyingdawg? 🤔
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February 24th, 2024 at 11:33:42 AM
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Quote: NathanMods, who was Youlyingdawg? 🤔
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My guess was expectedvalue
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
February 24th, 2024 at 11:36:19 AM
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WizardOfNothing / ExpectedValue / Wynn4Me was my guess too. He, like KewlJ, has some telltale signs that he leaves behind in his posts across all forums.
It was youlyingdawg not dogislying.
Let's at least get the pejoratives right!
Quote: AxelWolfI just didn't believe KJ and the new dogislying were the same people.
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It was youlyingdawg not dogislying.
Let's at least get the pejoratives right!
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
February 24th, 2024 at 12:19:38 PM
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MDawg, you have so much interest in forum rules and socks, perhaps you should apply to be a moderator next time there's an opening.
So many better men, a few of them friends, are dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things live on, and so do I.
February 24th, 2024 at 12:25:19 PM
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I hope that doesn't mean you're thinking of turning in the green cloth?
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
February 24th, 2024 at 12:37:56 PM
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Quote: gordonm888MDawg, you have so much interest in forum rules and socks, perhaps you should apply to be a moderator next time there's an opening.
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Quote: MDawg
You know what you did, pal.
I agree
The tone had me feeling like Virgil being interrogated in the Usual Suspects
When somebody doesn't believe me, I could care less. Some get totally bent out of shape when not believed. Weird. I believe very little on all forums
February 24th, 2024 at 12:44:37 PM
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Quote: gordonm888MDawg, you have so much interest in forum rules and socks, perhaps you should apply to be a moderator next time there's an opening.
Great idea.
I'm sure he'd be fair and dispassionate to his critics...bwa ha ha ha
I suspect that he'd almost certainly use whatever "power" he has to smite his foes and elevate himself in the eyes of others, at least if history is our guide.
But I could be wrong; it could be just the epiphany he'd benefit by; sure, give it a shot...what could go wrong?
"What, me worry?"
February 24th, 2024 at 2:08:45 PM
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LOL @ the fact that a high rolling jet setting multi-millionaire took the time and effort to correct the obvious.Quote: MDawgWizardOfNothing / ExpectedValue / Wynn4Me was my guess too. He, like KewlJ, has some telltale signs that he leaves behind in his posts across all forums.
Quote: AxelWolfI just didn't believe KJ and the new dogislying were the same people.
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It was youlyingdawg not dogislying.
Let's at least get the pejoratives right!
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
February 24th, 2024 at 4:30:02 PM
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Quote: MrVQuote: gordonm888MDawg, you have so much interest in forum rules and socks, perhaps you should apply to be a moderator next time there's an opening.
Great idea.
I'm sure he'd be fair and dispassionate to his critics...bwa ha ha ha
I suspect that he'd almost certainly use whatever "power" he has to smite his foes and elevate himself in the eyes of others, at least if history is our guide.
But I could be wrong; it could be just the epiphany he'd benefit by; sure, give it a shot...what could go wrong?
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As I understand, moderators have been degreened for far less.
There are higher standards in effect; step up, or step down.
edit: G, there's a brick wall about a hundred feet away. I'm going to go bonk my head on it a few times and see if my headache subsides.
May the cards fall in your favor.
February 24th, 2024 at 4:57:25 PM
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Im thinking a Great Flood.Quote: DieterQuote: MrVQuote: gordonm888MDawg, you have so much interest in forum rules and socks, perhaps you should apply to be a moderator next time there's an opening.
Great idea.
I'm sure he'd be fair and dispassionate to his critics...bwa ha ha ha
I suspect that he'd almost certainly use whatever "power" he has to smite his foes and elevate himself in the eyes of others, at least if history is our guide.
But I could be wrong; it could be just the epiphany he'd benefit by; sure, give it a shot...what could go wrong?
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As I understand, moderators have been degreened for far less.
There are higher standards in effect; step up, or step down.
edit: G, there's a brick wall about a hundred feet away. I'm going to go bonk my head on it a few times and see if my headache subsides.
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I know The Wizard likes him some bible stuff.
What We Can Learn From Nehemiah About Rebuilding Your Broken World.
https://www.vanderbloemen.com/blog/rebuilding-your-broken-world
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Does he even know/understand the forum is broken?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
February 24th, 2024 at 5:06:24 PM
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The headache persists. Masons used to take more pride in the brickwork. It's solid, just not pretty up close.
May the cards fall in your favor.
February 24th, 2024 at 6:55:16 PM
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Quote: Dieter[ Masons used to take more pride in the brickwork.
When I was a Mason we mostly drank, shot the breeze and wore silly outfits while pondering the mysteries of geometry in our Masonic Temple.
"Meet on the angle, part on the square."
But the oath involved the threat of having one's throat cut from ear to ear...that doesn't play in Peoria.
"What, me worry?"
February 25th, 2024 at 2:45:29 AM
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Quote: MrVQuote: Dieter[ Masons used to take more pride in the brickwork.
When I was a Mason we mostly drank, shot the breeze and wore silly outfits while pondering the mysteries of geometry in our Masonic Temple.
"Meet on the angle, part on the square."
But the oath involved the threat of having one's throat cut from ear to ear...that doesn't play in Peoria.
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By telling what the oath involves you are opening yourself to its penalties.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
February 25th, 2024 at 8:49:38 AM
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Quote: AZDuffmanBy telling what the oath involves you are opening yourself to its penalties.]
Yes, so I was led to believe.
Frightening concept in modern day America, yes?
What, will some geezer in a fez sneak into my home in the middle of the night and decapitate me?
I think not.
Besides, Masonry seems to be in serious decline; it was a useful adjunct and social lubricant a couple hundred years ago but today seems about as relevant to modern day life as a buggy whip.
"What, me worry?"
February 25th, 2024 at 9:20:18 AM
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Our fraternity handshake and such are cloaked in secrecy too. Unless you happen to google them on the 'net.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
February 28th, 2024 at 11:32:46 AM
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I see MrV is in red again. I can’t figure out why?
February 28th, 2024 at 11:37:49 AM
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Quote: SOOPOOI see MrV is in red again. I can’t figure out why?
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Whatever Moderator discretion is.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
March 4th, 2024 at 7:50:05 AM
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Can any Admin PLEASE tell us who Youlyingdawg was? It's still driving me crazy. 💡
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D
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ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D
I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;)
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March 4th, 2024 at 9:09:11 AM
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I believe it was Boz.
So many better men, a few of them friends, are dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things live on, and so do I.
March 4th, 2024 at 9:09:45 AM
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Quote: NathanCan any Admin PLEASE tell us who Youlyingdawg was? It's still driving me crazy. 💡
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That would seem to be a violation of Rule 4.
Two wrongs don't make a right, even if three lefts do.
Forum rules may be found here.
edit: we posted nearly concurrently. No foul, Gordon.
May the cards fall in your favor.
March 4th, 2024 at 12:39:25 PM
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Quote: WizardQuote: MDawg"I want you to know I intend to moderate with a light hand."
Wait a minute - didn't BBB say something like that when she started? 😁
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Personal insult. Three days.
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Good call on the suspension, but I would have cited it as mischievous misquoting. The insult was pretty subtle.
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
March 4th, 2024 at 1:31:15 PM
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Quote: OnceDearGood call on the suspension, but I would have cited it as mischievous misquoting. The insult was pretty subtle.
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The suspension was for the insult, which was enough. If it was for the quote, I would have given MDawg the opportunity to prove it was accurate, which he might do upon his return.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
March 8th, 2024 at 1:38:16 PM
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Quote: unJonQuote: JoemanI will volunteer to serve half of Wiz's sentence so that he will be free to post his Superb Owl prop wisdom next week. In my almost-decade here, I have never seen the inside of the WoV slammer. I hope it doesn't smell too bad!
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I would do that also. Take some days from Wiz so he can post in Super Bowl lead up.
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I just noticed this (doesn't matter to me, just happened on this):
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/questions-and-answers/all-other/25807-2016-election-part-ii/125/#post574835
Wizard: I'd like to remind the forum that to serve some time for another's suspension, you had to have had something to do with the suspension in the first place.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
March 8th, 2024 at 4:18:53 PM
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Lawyers...
You can always tell them, but you can't tell them much.
How true that is.
You can always tell them, but you can't tell them much.
How true that is.
"What, me worry?"
March 8th, 2024 at 5:08:17 PM
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Speaking of Suspensions, I as Starburger said that I feel that in order for someone to get Suspended on here for an insult, the insulted person must say something like,,"I feel insulted by what this person said,". On this Website, a certain Poster said I was the most annoying thing about WOV. He said something like,"Why would I want Nathan at this year's Spring Fling Event? She's the most annoying thing about WOV., LMAO!" I felt insulted. I contemplated just figuratively smiling politely and letting him get away with insulting me, especially since he is a VERY prolific and VERY popular Poster, and I thought I might look bad by calling out a VERY prolific and VERY popular Poster, but I decided to admit I felt insulted. I said something like,"I find this post VERY insulting to me. "
Wizard said something like,"Nathan's right. This post is insulting to her. The Insulter is Suspended for three days." I was justified in admitting the Poster insulted me. 💡 Another Poster posted a picture of someone in a straightjacket to a thread I started. Someone said something like,"I feel that this Poster is insulting Nathan with this straightjacket picture. I think he deserves to be Suspended." I, Nathan, found the straightjacket picture funny, not insulting. I said something like,"I don't find the straightjacket picture Insulting, I find it funny," and didn't press charges for him to be Suspended. The guy who posted the straightjacket picture said something like,"I wasn't trying to insult Nathan, I was making a lighthearted joke about how close the WOV community is." He didn't get Suspended. The Thread I started was talking about how I love the rapport of WOV or something like that.
My idea that Posters should say they feel insulted in order for the Poster to be Suspended was ignored.
Wizard said something like,"Nathan's right. This post is insulting to her. The Insulter is Suspended for three days." I was justified in admitting the Poster insulted me. 💡 Another Poster posted a picture of someone in a straightjacket to a thread I started. Someone said something like,"I feel that this Poster is insulting Nathan with this straightjacket picture. I think he deserves to be Suspended." I, Nathan, found the straightjacket picture funny, not insulting. I said something like,"I don't find the straightjacket picture Insulting, I find it funny," and didn't press charges for him to be Suspended. The guy who posted the straightjacket picture said something like,"I wasn't trying to insult Nathan, I was making a lighthearted joke about how close the WOV community is." He didn't get Suspended. The Thread I started was talking about how I love the rapport of WOV or something like that.
My idea that Posters should say they feel insulted in order for the Poster to be Suspended was ignored.
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D
"Man Babes" #AxelFabulous
"Olive oil is processed but it only has one
ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D
I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;)
Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D
"For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
March 8th, 2024 at 6:44:08 PM
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Quote: MDawgQuote: unJonQuote: JoemanI will volunteer to serve half of Wiz's sentence so that he will be free to post his Superb Owl prop wisdom next week. In my almost-decade here, I have never seen the inside of the WoV slammer. I hope it doesn't smell too bad!
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I would do that also. Take some days from Wiz so he can post in Super Bowl lead up.
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I just noticed this (doesn't matter to me, just happened on this):
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/questions-and-answers/all-other/25807-2016-election-part-ii/125/#post574835
Wizard: I'd like to remind the forum that to serve some time for another's suspension, you had to have had something to do with the suspension in the first place.
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Someone recently said: But stare decisis has never been treated as an inexorable command.
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
March 10th, 2024 at 9:18:22 AM
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I did explain quite blandly how BeachBumBabs was mistaken in accusing me of paraphrasing something she claimed she never said, and if she had made some kind of decent response there would be no need for the below posts, but as there was no response from her,
Let me be even more frank...
BBB claimed an insult based on that I mis-paraphrased her with something she never said. That is not true.
My ENTIRE post was:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/38959-should-mdawg-be-a-moderator-at-wov/#post919203
"I want you to know I intend to moderate with a light hand."
Wait a minute - didn't BBB say something like that when she started? 😁
I did not state anything in my post other than that she said something like that. There is no per se insult in what I posted, it is just a statement of fact that, hey she said something like this when she started moderating.
I do not comment on my paraphrase. I merely assert in my post that she said something like that when she first was made a moderator.
Her charge against me was that she felt insulted because she never said anything like that:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/38959-should-mdawg-be-a-moderator-at-wov/3/#post919964
"You're insulting me by claiming to paraphrase something I didn't say???"
In other words, her charge against me is that by claiming to paraphrase something she didn’t say, she felt insulted.
However, she did say “something like that when she started”:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/announcements/17068-meet-our-newest-green-admin/2/#post328173
“It’s my goal to have a very light footprint.”
Therefore her grounds for feeling insulted by my alleged mis-paraphrasing are baseless, and constitute a false accusation against me.
I accuse BeachBumBabs of make a false accusation against me: that I mis-paraphrased her for something she claims she did not say.
Her entire basis for feeling insulted is that I mis-paraphrased her. I did not! I cannot be suspended just because she can’t remember saying what I posted.
Let me be even more frank...
BBB claimed an insult based on that I mis-paraphrased her with something she never said. That is not true.
My ENTIRE post was:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/38959-should-mdawg-be-a-moderator-at-wov/#post919203
"I want you to know I intend to moderate with a light hand."
Wait a minute - didn't BBB say something like that when she started? 😁
I did not state anything in my post other than that she said something like that. There is no per se insult in what I posted, it is just a statement of fact that, hey she said something like this when she started moderating.
I do not comment on my paraphrase. I merely assert in my post that she said something like that when she first was made a moderator.
Her charge against me was that she felt insulted because she never said anything like that:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/38959-should-mdawg-be-a-moderator-at-wov/3/#post919964
"You're insulting me by claiming to paraphrase something I didn't say???"
In other words, her charge against me is that by claiming to paraphrase something she didn’t say, she felt insulted.
However, she did say “something like that when she started”:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/announcements/17068-meet-our-newest-green-admin/2/#post328173
“It’s my goal to have a very light footprint.”
Therefore her grounds for feeling insulted by my alleged mis-paraphrasing are baseless, and constitute a false accusation against me.
I accuse BeachBumBabs of make a false accusation against me: that I mis-paraphrased her for something she claims she did not say.
Her entire basis for feeling insulted is that I mis-paraphrased her. I did not! I cannot be suspended just because she can’t remember saying what I posted.
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I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
March 10th, 2024 at 9:19:43 AM
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Additionally, I’m not even the first to allude to that BBB’s moderation was on the harsh side.
You tell me if suggesting that it is a suspension worthy offense to indicate in public what members you have blocked, is having “a very light footprint.”
Firstly, I request an apology and retraction from BBB for accusing me of paraphrasing her falsely.
Secondly, it’s not a forum offense to comment in general on how a moderator is moderating. As far as I know, we haven’t gotten to the point at this forum where it is suspension worthy to criticize moderation or suspensions. DarkOz created a whole THREAD devoted to why he felt unjustly suspended over a Coach’s Challenge and then even altered a quote made by Wizard over the matter –
no suspension resulted.
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I got suspended by her a couple times under at most borderline things. On at least one several people said it was not warranted. I cannot remember for sure but that probably happened with other folks as well. She proposed and made a rule that you would be suspended for saying "china virus." Meanwhile she got suspended on the other side more than once, one of them being personally insulting me.
She seemed to like suspending people, at least as far as I saw.
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You tell me if suggesting that it is a suspension worthy offense to indicate in public what members you have blocked, is having “a very light footprint.”
Quote: beachbumbabsWARNING. Please stop with the blocked users screenshots. It comes off as trolling the other members, and in the past, was cause for suspensions, though was never codified into forum rules. If you continue, I will have to take it as deliberate trolling and take action. Thanks.
Firstly, I request an apology and retraction from BBB for accusing me of paraphrasing her falsely.
Secondly, it’s not a forum offense to comment in general on how a moderator is moderating. As far as I know, we haven’t gotten to the point at this forum where it is suspension worthy to criticize moderation or suspensions. DarkOz created a whole THREAD devoted to why he felt unjustly suspended over a Coach’s Challenge and then even altered a quote made by Wizard over the matter –
no suspension resulted.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
March 10th, 2024 at 9:21:37 AM
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As far as actual violation of rules, in BBB’s post accusing me falsely of mis-paraphrasing her, she laid down a litany of insults against MDawg.
In her post, she made a series of insulting accusations against me where certainly the totality violate the WOV rules against insults:
1) ACCUSED ME OF BEING A SOCK OF A BANNED MEMBER
Unless, of course, you're a sock of a banned member from back then. Would not surprise me - I have someone in mind, in fact.
2) WORSE THAN CALLED MY POSTS FICTION (which Wizard has stated time and again that calling posts fiction is suspendable)
spewed unrealistic and fantastical claims at nauseating length.
3) INSULTED ME AND IMPLIED THAT I COULD NEVER BE EVEN FAIR AND IMPARTIAL
You could not provide those values to this board if your life depended on it
4) IMPLIED THAT SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN SUSPENDED FREQUENTLY IN THE PAST CANNOT PROVIDE A “HARMONIOUS PRODUCT”
And yet…in the past she spoke of her own suspension, and seemed unrepentant about what she did.
It seems to me to be hypocritical to talk about “Fair and impartial treatment” and a sort of mesure, all the time hurling insults in a sort of unhinged diatribe, against another.
These words
ring hollow in the wake of a false accusation of mis-quoting followed by a string of insults.
In her post, she made a series of insulting accusations against me where certainly the totality violate the WOV rules against insults:
1) ACCUSED ME OF BEING A SOCK OF A BANNED MEMBER
Unless, of course, you're a sock of a banned member from back then. Would not surprise me - I have someone in mind, in fact.
2) WORSE THAN CALLED MY POSTS FICTION (which Wizard has stated time and again that calling posts fiction is suspendable)
spewed unrealistic and fantastical claims at nauseating length.
3) INSULTED ME AND IMPLIED THAT I COULD NEVER BE EVEN FAIR AND IMPARTIAL
You could not provide those values to this board if your life depended on it
4) IMPLIED THAT SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN SUSPENDED FREQUENTLY IN THE PAST CANNOT PROVIDE A “HARMONIOUS PRODUCT”
And yet…in the past she spoke of her own suspension, and seemed unrepentant about what she did.
It seems to me to be hypocritical to talk about “Fair and impartial treatment” and a sort of mesure, all the time hurling insults in a sort of unhinged diatribe, against another.
These words
Quote: beachbumbabsHow DARE you disparage me?
ring hollow in the wake of a false accusation of mis-quoting followed by a string of insults.
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I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
March 10th, 2024 at 10:37:40 AM
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Nobody wins against these mods, but thanks for playing.
March 10th, 2024 at 12:09:36 PM
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Quote: ChumpChangeNobody wins against these mods, but thanks for playing.
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I think its hillarious that some posters make a federal case out of their suspension
Its just a forum
A gazillion of them on the internet
A suspension is really much ado about nothing.
Overall kind of a meaningless punishment
Last time I was suspended, didnt come back for many months. Its just a forum
I'd rather live in the real world
The forum is just a minor diversion to me
Some members get furious about a suspension and obviously spend a ton of time researching to make a convoluted long long long case post
I just chuckle.
Its just a forum
When somebody doesn't believe me, I could care less. Some get totally bent out of shape when not believed. Weird. I believe very little on all forums
March 10th, 2024 at 12:42:43 PM
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Quote: terapinedQuote: ChumpChangeNobody wins against these mods, but thanks for playing.
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I think its hillarious that some posters make a federal case out of their suspension
Its just a forum
A gazillion of them on the internet
A suspension is really much ado about nothing.
Overall kind of a meaningless punishment
Last time I was suspended, didnt come back for many months. Its just a forum
I'd rather live in the real world
The forum is just a minor diversion to me
Some members get furious about a suspension and obviously spend a ton of time researching to make a convoluted long long long case post
I just chuckle.
Its just a forum
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I couldn’t keep my concentration reading the first of his three recent diatribes. So didn’t finish it nor the next two. I was going to post something akin to what you did, but you beat me to the punch. I only care about suspensions during the WoV NFL pick game.
(Cue ‘someone’ finding a post of mine from 2016 implying I care a lot about suspensions….)
March 10th, 2024 at 12:45:30 PM
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Quote: terapinedLast time I was suspended, didnt come back for many months.
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If you stayed away from the forum for four months following a suspension (not the first time you threw in the towel and walked away ostensibly in a huff - you did it for ten months right after the previous time you were suspended), I'd say that you take suspensions very seriously. Far more seriously than most.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
March 10th, 2024 at 12:59:02 PM
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Quote: MDawgQuote: terapinedLast time I was suspended, didnt come back for many months.
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If you stayed away from the forum for four months following a suspension (not the first time you threw in the towel and walked away in a huff), I'd say that you take suspensions very seriously. Far more seriously than most.
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LOL
Quite the opposite
Prior to that suspension, I wasnt posting here for a long time
Sometimes honesty is looked upon by the admins as an insult and decided to get real real honest and take a meaningless suspension
I didn't mind that suspension because I enjoy the real world more then this forum and really wasnt posting here much anyway.
Back because currently a Vegas local and really really enjoyed that Mission thread. You go Mission. Ive met Mission in real life
Anyway
Its just a forum. Not real life
When somebody doesn't believe me, I could care less. Some get totally bent out of shape when not believed. Weird. I believe very little on all forums
March 10th, 2024 at 1:15:04 PM
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Seven posts in about as many days...gets suspended, and gone for four months.
Posting somewhat regularly...gets suspended, and gone for ten months.
Five posts over four days...gets suspended, and gone for three months.
Posting pretty much every day for months and months...gets suspended, and gone for six months.
Let you tell it!
Doesn't look like a coincidence the timing of your departures...you disappear immediately after the suspension.
Posting somewhat regularly...gets suspended, and gone for ten months.
Five posts over four days...gets suspended, and gone for three months.
Posting pretty much every day for months and months...gets suspended, and gone for six months.
Let you tell it!
Quote: MDawgI'd say that you take suspensions very seriously. Far more seriously than most.
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Doesn't look like a coincidence the timing of your departures...you disappear immediately after the suspension.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
March 10th, 2024 at 1:45:00 PM
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Not only did BBB accuse MDawg falsely of misquoting her, but she also insulted MDawg quite badly in the process!
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