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December 5th, 2018 at 2:18:28 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

People actually PM you asking for suspensions? That is really petty. People need to get thicker skin.



Yeah, they usually PM if they don’t have any of the Admins’ phone numbers, otherwise it’s sometimes a text or call.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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December 5th, 2018 at 2:19:41 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Ummm. Yeah. Near-constant. Been that way for years. I doubt I even get the majority of the complaints, at that.



You probably do since about March, or so.
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December 5th, 2018 at 2:35:23 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

I propose that RS gets suspended just for having a cat avatar.


I'm a martyr for my cause.

BTW your avatar could be interpreted as being a cat, soooo
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December 5th, 2018 at 3:17:33 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Yeah, they usually PM if they don’t have any of the Admins’ phone numbers, otherwise it’s sometimes a text or call.



I read that a certain Admin got nasty messages sent to their HOUSE! O.O
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December 5th, 2018 at 5:40:05 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

I read that a certain Admin got nasty messages sent to their HOUSE! O.O



Wasn’t me. Mail would be a very slow way of trying to attract my attention, especially since I only remember to go pick it up about once a month...on a good month.
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December 6th, 2018 at 12:08:56 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

wow sorry to hear that. I honestly had no idea. I figured maybe once in a while but didn't think it would be all the time. I can't imagine every complaining to a mod, its like running to the teacher. People need to get over it, block them if they have to.

I think there should be a 3 day ban for asking for a suspension that doesnt result in a suspension. Kinda like embelishment in hockey.

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December 6th, 2018 at 12:36:06 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

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Why deprive anyone of the only joy they have in their pitiful existence? Remember, all of Gods creatures have a place in the choir. Some go low, some go higher.


Pitiful existence that seems harsh lol. Let’s remeber this is an Internet forum lol.
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December 6th, 2018 at 3:30:23 PM permalink
It’s extremely easy to not get banned on this forum.
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December 6th, 2018 at 3:50:27 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

It’s extremely easy to not get banned on this forum.



Thank you.
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December 6th, 2018 at 3:56:57 PM permalink
Quote: RS

I'm a martyr for my cause.

BTW your avatar could be interpreted as being a cat, soooo



Only you could confuse a cat with a wumpus.
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December 6th, 2018 at 3:57:09 PM permalink
Anyone who sends a pm to a mod to get someone suspended who wasn’t the target of the insult should be suspended.
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December 7th, 2018 at 1:32:04 AM permalink
777 suspended for 2 days (my timezone) for insufficiently obfuscating an obsenity. Dropping the 'c' just didn't seem sufficient. Sorry 777.
Penalty would have been 3 days, but that felt mean since he did make some effort.
I realise this is a subjective judgement and I'm receptive to feedback.
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December 7th, 2018 at 3:54:15 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

777 suspended for 2 days (my timezone) for insufficiently obfuscating an obsenity. Dropping the 'c' just didn't seem sufficient. Sorry 777.
Penalty would have been 3 days, but that felt mean since he did make some effort.
I realise this is a subjective judgement and I'm receptive to feedback.


My feedback is he has a high "suspension to post-count" ratio, at least as of late.
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December 7th, 2018 at 5:06:37 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

777 suspended for 2 days (my timezone) for insufficiently obfuscating an obsenity. Dropping the 'c' just didn't seem sufficient. Sorry 777.
Penalty would have been 3 days, but that felt mean since he did make some effort.
I realise this is a subjective judgement and I'm receptive to feedback.



Too harsh.

I think it was a few months ago, RonC dropped an f-bomb in a politics thread (spelled it correctly too), and another mod just edited his post and gave him a warning.
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December 7th, 2018 at 5:36:57 AM permalink
Quote: RS

My feedback is he has a high "suspension to post-count" ratio, at least as of late.

I could read that two ways... That we mods have been overly harsh or 777 has been too often worthy of a ban. Inclined to keep it at 2days but as UK time it will be barely 1.5.
My fave obfuscation of the F-word is a switch of the c and u as in the popular fashion brand. But I think even that breaks the spirit of the rule and would not use that here.
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December 8th, 2018 at 6:42:50 PM permalink
Member Suspended On Number Days Reason Suspension Ends
WatchMeWin 12/8/18 2 months Personal insult 2/7/19


Ouch!
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December 8th, 2018 at 6:58:12 PM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Member Suspended On Number Days Reason Suspension Ends
WatchMeWin 12/8/18 2 months Personal insult 2/7/19


Ouch!



I thought that suspension was too harsh. I don’t view “naïve” as a personal insult really either. He even masked it by misspelling! ;)
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December 8th, 2018 at 7:08:11 PM permalink
And I was just thinking about hit and run craps strategies too... Well, there goes that.
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December 8th, 2018 at 7:17:58 PM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Ouch!



The Martingale policy is what it is. It isn't like the previous suspensions were spaced far apart.

Also, I find it kind of annoying when people spell naive with two dots above the i.
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December 8th, 2018 at 7:24:54 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Also, I find it kind of annoying when people spell naive with two dots above the i.

Maybe it wasn't an insult. Maybe he was promoting his new rock band and forgot to capitalise the 'N'
$:o)
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December 8th, 2018 at 7:28:18 PM permalink
Quote: unJon

Quote: OnceDear

Member Suspended On Number Days Reason Suspension Ends
WatchMeWin 12/8/18 2 months Personal insult 2/7/19


Ouch!



I thought that suspension was too harsh. I don’t view “naïve” as a personal insult really either. He even masked it by misspelling! ;)


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December 8th, 2018 at 7:30:17 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

The Martingale policy is what it is. It isn't like the previous suspensions were spaced far apart.

Also, I find it kind of annoying when people spell naive with two dots above the i.



On an iPhone it’s much more difficult to spell without the two dots. You would have to override the autocorrect.
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December 8th, 2018 at 7:46:14 PM permalink
Quote: unJon

Quote: OnceDear

Member Suspended On Number Days Reason Suspension Ends
WatchMeWin 12/8/18 2 months Personal insult 2/7/19


Ouch!



I thought that suspension was too harsh. I don’t view “naïve” as a personal insult really either. He even masked it by misspelling! ;)



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December 8th, 2018 at 8:00:53 PM permalink
The punishment must fit the crime. If the law says anyone can be suspended for two months for using the term naive, then,in the words of Mr. Dickens, the law is an ass.
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December 8th, 2018 at 8:35:13 PM permalink
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December 8th, 2018 at 9:02:20 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

,in the words of Mr. Dickens, the law is an ass.


Or naive anyway.
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December 8th, 2018 at 9:47:22 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

The punishment must fit the crime. If the law says anyone can be suspended for two months for using the term naive, then,in the words of Mr. Dickens, the law is an ass.

And at approximately the same time I. A different thread, someone called someone else “weird.” So I guess the personal insult line is somewhere between naïve and weird.
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December 8th, 2018 at 10:20:00 PM permalink
Quote: unJon

And at approximately the same time I. A different thread, someone called someone else “weird.” So I guess the personal insult line is somewhere between naïve and weird.



I think personal insults and their suspension worthiness have a lot more to do with the context of the rest of the that post or ongoing posts , as opposed to the specific word that’s used.

The cursing rule is more based on certain keywords
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December 8th, 2018 at 10:46:25 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

I think personal insults and their suspension worthiness have a lot more to do with the context of the rest of the that post or ongoing posts , as opposed to the specific word that’s used.

The cursing rule is more based on certain keywords



I think it also makes a difference when you've worn out you welcome. Probably the same as previous offenders and first offenders in court, casinos, school, etc.


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December 9th, 2018 at 4:56:26 AM permalink
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December 9th, 2018 at 6:01:44 AM permalink
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It's obvious WatchMeWin was getting to close too the truth about bubble craps floor magnets and he had to be silenced at once.



With all of the cheating organizations and people in the world, why are we supposed to automatically believe everything a casino says? Is it because a commission somehow makes them more honest than any other business? There has never been a "dirty" commission before, right? They show us all the information about every game, don't they?
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December 9th, 2018 at 6:51:09 AM permalink
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December 9th, 2018 at 4:57:18 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

The punishment must fit the crime. If the law says anyone can be suspended for two months for using the term naive, then,in the words of Mr. Dickens, the law is an ass.



It is a long-standing precedent to keep doubling the sentence for repeat offenders.

Speaking of the punishment not fitting the crime, how about this case: 25 Years for a Slice of Pizza.
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December 9th, 2018 at 5:05:42 PM permalink
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December 9th, 2018 at 6:10:41 PM permalink
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Two Wongs don’t make a wight.

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December 9th, 2018 at 6:33:30 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

It is a long-standing precedent to keep doubling the sentence for repeat offenders.

Speaking of the punishment not fitting the crime, how about this case: 25 Years for a Slice of Pizza.

That's religion, not precedent. Bad gambling advice becomes policy=religion.
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December 9th, 2018 at 7:43:04 PM permalink
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That's religion, not precedent. Bad gambling advice becomes policy=religion.



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December 9th, 2018 at 8:32:03 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

It is a long-standing precedent to keep doubling the sentence for repeat offenders.

Speaking of the punishment not fitting the crime, how about this case: 25 Years for a Slice of Pizza.



I think he got off light. If I was one of the kids parents he might wish that all he got was 25 years in prison.
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December 10th, 2018 at 2:55:40 AM permalink
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December 10th, 2018 at 4:50:25 AM permalink
FYI - Boz’s suspension was supposed to end on the 9th but he’s still red.
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December 10th, 2018 at 5:36:55 AM permalink
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December 10th, 2018 at 1:39:34 PM permalink
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FYI - Boz’s suspension was supposed to end on the 9th but he’s still red.



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December 14th, 2018 at 1:17:27 AM permalink
Nathan has been told many times that she must improve the quality of her posting. She's been given plenty of advice, in thread and by PM, culminating with this reminder that an emoticon or an emoticon plus 'LMAO' constitutes thumbtacking, contrary to the rules...

Warned explicitly about thumb-tacking on 13th

But she's either being too impulsive, or she is deliberately trolling the moderators. I suspect the latter.

She edited her very reply to that to the single word 'Nevermind' and then posted another in the thread with the single word and emoticon 'Nevermind ;)'
This post

Since she cannot resist this behaviour for a single day, she can take out 3 days to read and re-read the forum rules and ponder her purpose here.
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December 14th, 2018 at 3:36:24 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Nathan has been told many times that she must improve the quality of her posting. She's been given plenty of advice, in thread and by PM, culminating with this reminder that an emoticon or an emoticon plus 'LMAO' constitutes thumbtacking, contrary to the rules...

Warned explicitly about thumb-tacking on 13th

But she's either being too impulsive, or she is deliberately trolling the moderators. I suspect the latter.

She edited her very reply to that to the single word 'Nevermind' and then posted another in the thread with the single word and emoticon 'Nevermind ;)'
This post

Since she cannot resist this behaviour for a single day, she can take out 3 days to read and re-read the forum rules and ponder her purpose here.


Dang, you suspended her in her own thread? Low blow....
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December 14th, 2018 at 3:43:35 AM permalink
Quote: RS

Quote: OnceDear

Since she cannot resist this behaviour for a single day, she can take out 3 days to read and re-read the forum rules and ponder her purpose here.


Dang, you suspended her in her own thread? Low blow....

Wizards's forum, Wizard's rules.
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December 14th, 2018 at 4:47:00 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Nathan has been told many times that she must improve the quality of her posting. She's been given plenty of advice, in thread and by PM, culminating with this reminder that an emoticon or an emoticon plus 'LMAO' constitutes thumbtacking, contrary to the rules...

Warned explicitly about thumb-tacking on 13th

But she's either being too impulsive, or she is deliberately trolling the moderators. I suspect the latter.

She edited her very reply to that to the single word 'Nevermind' and then posted another in the thread with the single word and emoticon 'Nevermind ;)'
This post

Since she cannot resist this behaviour for a single day, she can take out 3 days to read and re-read the forum rules and ponder her purpose here.



Those few of us who peruse the other forum, DT, are not so pleased. She has moved her drivel over there instead. New thread on her numbers that she predicts will happen in next two weeks! For all those who will miss such quality and thoughtful posts.....
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December 14th, 2018 at 5:05:18 AM permalink
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Those few of us who peruse the other forum, DT, are not so pleased. She has moved her drivel over there instead. New thread on her numbers that she predicts will happen in next two weeks! For all those who will miss such quality and thoughtful posts.....



DT is Wizard's forum too, more so in some ways than this one. Happily for me I have no moderator status there.

If members on 'another forum' are not too please about stuff on that forum, then I suppose they might discuss it on that forum.

The thing I ponder is whether 'She has moved her drivel over there' or whether she is going to duplicate her drivel over there. On past form...
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December 14th, 2018 at 5:07:46 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Since she cannot resist this behaviour for a single day, she can take out 3 days to read and re-read the forum rules and ponder her purpose here.



Well dang.

How am I going to get my fix for scintillating lottery picks for the next 3 days?
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December 14th, 2018 at 5:43:52 AM permalink
I will never understand how some of y'all let Nathan get to you so bad (moderators excluded - they're forced to read her posts).

I have her thread blocked, so I rarely ever have to see her posts. Every once and a while she'll wander into a politics thread and everyone seems to ignore her posts and she goes away. It's really not that hard to not have to deal with her...
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December 14th, 2018 at 5:50:50 AM permalink
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