LuckyPhow
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June 14th, 2016 at 6:24:41 AM permalink
I have seen casinos tighten security following high-profile shootings or other, similar events. Some tighten security more than others. Some are quick to relax tightened security measures once news of the event fades from the national spotlight.

I carry a small shoulder bag that is just big enough to hold my water bottle, a small flashlight, and various casino player cards. If I didn't fill it with that stuff, it is big enough to hold a small pistol and an extra clip or two of ammo. So, I'm never concerned as I enter a casino if security asks me to show the contents of my shoulder bag. In fact, I'm sometimes disappointed security does not ask to inspect patron bags, as some are rather large.

Some casinos have a rather large meeting & convention business in addition to their gaming activities. While some do it differently, casinos with meeting rooms I most frequently visit in southern Mississippi generally require those attending meetings to walk through the gaming area of the casino. I see folks with boxes on hand-carts and dollies announce they have "materials" for the such-and-such meeting, and pass through security with no visual inspection of the contents of the boxes. Boxes big enough to hold rocket launchers.

I know casinos have (reasonably) good surveillance. But, that only means any tragedy that might occur will have great video footage for the evening news. And, I know casinos have "security," but I've never seen casino security appropriately prepared to provide real "security" if a serious security event threatened gaming patrons.

So, I ask: What level of security do you see in casinos you frequent? Do you feel safe as a gaming patron? Are there members posting here who work (or previously worked) in casino security or surveillance? Or, who have an "insider's" perspective from other work as a casino employee?

I'm not so concerned about safety to stop going to my favorite casinos. But, I do find it somewhat ironic when security wants to talk to me because they find it suspicious because I'm forever looking over my shoulder at nearby activity. (OK, it only happened once. And, the nice man in the suit might not have been security. He only asked if I was looking for someone or needed something.)
SOOPOO
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June 14th, 2016 at 6:39:25 AM permalink
Casinos do not check bags of any size. I wheel my big luggage through casinos all the time. I do not feel unsafe because of this.
MrGoldenSun
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June 14th, 2016 at 7:07:06 AM permalink
I have never seen them check a bag. I feel as safe as I do inside any random office building.
DiscreteMaths2
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June 14th, 2016 at 9:22:10 AM permalink
There is really no point in just checking bags, that would just be some security theater. They would also have to install detectors you have to walk yourself through and your baggage and then get pat downs by security. This would also involve redesigning entries and exits. Not only would this come at great cost to the casino but also to the discontent of the patrons. Having a TSA style experience is not a selling point for any business. Plus you have to realize that the casino and resort really doesn't want to know whats in your bags. Especially in sin city, they start pulling 12 inch black strapon dildos and bags of coke from baggage, no one benefits from that.
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TwoFeathersATL
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June 14th, 2016 at 1:58:33 PM permalink
Quote: DiscreteMaths2

There is really no point in just checking bags, that would just be some security theater. They would also have to install detectors you have to walk yourself through and your baggage and then get pat downs by security. This would also involve redesigning entries and exits. Not only would this come at great cost to the casino but also to the discontent of the patrons. Having a TSA style experience is not a selling point for any business. Plus you have to realize that the casino and resort really doesn't want to know whats in your bags. Especially in sin city, they start pulling 12 inch black strapon dildos and bags of coke from baggage, no one benefits from that.

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mcallister3200
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June 14th, 2016 at 2:13:03 PM permalink
Quote: DiscreteMaths2

There is really no point in just checking bags, that would just be some security theater.



Cleveland checks purses/bags as people enter, and yes its just security theater, wouldn't stop anyone from carrying anything else through in a sock, she, etc.
TigerWu
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June 14th, 2016 at 2:22:10 PM permalink
If I was a terrorist or mass murderer looking to kill a bunch of people, a casino would not be one of my primary targets.

1) There are definitely going to be multiple armed guards present. As soon as I open fire, they're going to come running.

2) There are hundreds of large, heavy bullet resistant machines and pieces of furniture for people to hide behind and use for cover while they escape. I'm not going to get good coverage when I start shooting; too many obstacles in the way.

If you'll notice, the last two big terrorist shootings (in the West), Orlando and Paris, were in big open nightclubs with lots of tightly packed people who are unlikely to be armed. That's like shooting fish in a barrel. Casinos just aren't a logical target for inflicting mass casualties, in my mind. Then again, I'm an intelligent person thinking logically, which is something idiot criminals and terrorists don't do.
Dalex64
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June 14th, 2016 at 3:06:04 PM permalink
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Ayecarumba
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June 14th, 2016 at 3:07:17 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

If I was a terrorist or mass murderer looking to kill a bunch of people, a casino would not be one of my primary targets.

1) There are definitely going to be multiple armed guards present. As soon as I open fire, they're going to come running.

2) There are hundreds of large, heavy bullet resistant machines and pieces of furniture for people to hide behind and use for cover while they escape. I'm not going to get good coverage when I start shooting; too many obstacles in the way.

If you'll notice, the last two big terrorist shootings (in the West), Orlando and Paris, were in big open nightclubs with lots of tightly packed people who are unlikely to be armed. That's like shooting fish in a barrel. Casinos just aren't a logical target for inflicting mass casualties, in my mind. Then again, I'm an intelligent person thinking logically, which is something idiot criminals and terrorists don't do.



While not an optimal target, I think casinos and the Strip are on some bad guy's list just because they epitomize everything they hate about Western culture. I appreciate the visible security, and understand when folks who "fit the profile" are asked to submit to searches.

I think casino security is more concerned about preventing robbery and theft than mass murder, and rightfully so.

Edit: I recall that the Paris attack could have been worse, as one of the cells was attempting to bring an explosive device into a stadium where a soccer match was going on, but he was stopped outside the gate by security.
Last edited by: Ayecarumba on Jun 14, 2016
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FleaStiff
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June 14th, 2016 at 3:09:42 PM permalink
Harveys wallbanger... in Reno. Couple of delivery men wheeled in a large carton on a dolly. Eventually someone got curious and read the sign on it saying 'do not touch...BOMB'.

Only the Venetian has really tight security. Those who wear green are all former Mossad operatives but they protect Sheldon Adelson, not the guests.

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