myVegas --- What's the catch?
Quote: GWAEI was playing the game Frontier Fortune. I got to the bonus where you pick high or low with a bet of 2000 iirc. On the 2nd to last pick I went low with a 4. The number was 1 and I won 20k chips. The last pick I picked high obviously and the number was 7 and I was rewarded with 0 chips. Has anyone else had this happen. I did end up with 50k+ chips on the bonus but I thought it was weird that I would receive 0 for a correct pick. Maybe this shows that the outcome is predetermined?
why would you select low with a 4 showing ?
there is no 1 ...lowest number is 2, aces are high. you must have picked high when the 4 showed (which is the correct play). afterwards picking high on an ace is kind of a long shot :-)
btw, anyone ever got a tie on this hi/lo game ? there are no rules stated for this case so i guess it just draws a new card without showing the draw
Edit: Also, is there a game better than blackjack that I should be playing? I always assumed blackjack had the lower house edge over slots (like in a real casino), but if that's not the case in this game, I'd love to know that too. Thanks.
Quote: FinsRuleUnless you have an insane amount of chips, you should just keep playing BJ. Also depends on what your goal is. I think everyone should redeem while they have the chance. This thing isn't going to be around forever.
Thanks. Blackjack can swing wildly for me, bringing me into the 3-4M range. Then a bad run can drain that same few million in no time. Right now I'm on the less fortunate side of it, sitting at anywhere between 0 and 10K. I think my goal now is to just optimize LP without excess risk, i.e. I don't want to bet 80K/hand in blackjack if a 40K is going to get me the same LP. I was just curious what that maximum LP bet in blackjack is these days (for when I build up my chips again). Has anyone done the math recently?
I agree with the redeeming, especially given their refund policy. Once I know the dates for my next trip, I'll be back on buying Rewards ASAP.
Quote: gameterrorwhy would you select low with a 4 showing ?
there is no 1 ...lowest number is 2, aces are high. you must have picked high when the 4 showed (which is the correct play). afterwards picking high on an ace is kind of a long shot :-)
btw, anyone ever got a tie on this hi/lo game ? there are no rules stated for this case so i guess it just draws a new card without showing the draw
Because the last 5 or 6 bonus games I lost on a 4 by going high. I don't know why I wrote 1 it was actually a 3 iirc. Then I went high on the last one and then got the 7. This happened a few days ago so the numbers may be a little off but I definitely went low with a 4 and won. Then won on the next number and got 0 chips.
Quote: KCThanks. Blackjack can swing wildly for me, bringing me into the 3-4M range. Then a bad run can drain that same few million in no time. Right now I'm on the less fortunate side of it, sitting at anywhere between 0 and 10K. I think my goal now is to just optimize LP without excess risk, i.e. I don't want to bet 80K/hand in blackjack if a 40K is going to get me the same LP. I was just curious what that maximum LP bet in blackjack is these days (for when I build up my chips again). Has anyone done the math recently?
I agree with the redeeming, especially given their refund policy. Once I know the dates for my next trip, I'll be back on buying Rewards ASAP.
When you play BJ what strategy do you use for betting. Do you play all 3 and flat bet all of them or do you vary your bets?
Quote: GWAEWhen you play BJ what strategy do you use for betting. Do you play all 3 and flat bet all of them or do you vary your bets?
I stick to basic strategy, following something like this:
Traditionally, the way I've played has been single hole, 50K bet, turbo mode. I could be wrong, but playing more than one hand just feels too slow with all the animations during the payout. I don't do much bet varying...only downsizing in dire circumstance, like right now, when I'm close to broke.
More recently, after reading some posts here, I decided to up the bet to 80K to earn 40K XP/bet. Because the max for one hole is 50K, I split it 40K/40K. While this obviously sped up the XP building and leveling up, it just got me wondering today if it's a good bet or if it's too much. I can try to eyeball my LP meter, but I'm wondering if anyone has done the math to confirm the ideal LP building blackjack bet.
Quote: KCI stick to basic strategy, following something like this: http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bjbse.php
Traditionally, the way I've played has been single hole, 50K bet, turbo mode. I could be wrong, but playing more than one hand just feels too slow with all the animations during the payout. I don't do much bet varying...only downsizing in dire circumstance, like right now, when I'm close to broke.
More recently, after reading some posts here, I decided to up the bet to 80K to earn 40K XP/bet. Because the max for one hole is 50K, I split it 40K/40K. While this obviously sped up the XP building and leveling up, it just got me wondering today if it's a good bet or if it's too much. I can try to eyeball my LP meter, but I'm wondering if anyone has done the math to confirm the ideal LP building blackjack bet.
Personally, I think that 50k on one hand is the fastest way to build LP (through leveling up). More than 1 hand is way too slow. If you want to maximize the LP overall, then you should bet a single hand of 1K, but you have to play 1500 hands or so in order to maximize the 2000 LP per day (leveling up is not subject to this limit). This way, you can gain 2000 LP for an expected loss of 7500 gold coins. But, when you get to the higher levels, you won't level up for a few days at a time.
Quote: CrystalMathPersonally, I think that 50k on one hand is the fastest way to build LP (through leveling up). More than 1 hand is way too slow. If you want to maximize the LP overall, then you should bet a single hand of 1K, but you have to play 1500 hands or so in order to maximize the 2000 LP per day (leveling up is not subject to this limit). This way, you can gain 2000 LP for an expected loss of 7500 gold coins. But, when you get to the higher levels, you won't level up for a few days at a time.
This is exactly what I needed to hear, from the person I know that had done the math in previous posts. The 50K sounds like a good approach. I will keep a close eye on this thread for any changes in the math since they seem to silently make little tweaks in the background. Thank you.
- 4 prem Tix to Zarkana
- 4 prem Tix to KA
- 2 prem Tix to Beatles Love
- 2 Buffets at Mirage
But I pretty much log on every day and play at least a little bit. So yeah, it takes time.
This adds up to 7 redemptions and I am gradually trying to get enough Gold for a nice 8th reward. I thought the Red Chip purchase level was pretty reasonable to get a 4th reward, IF you have lots of Gold to get something good. I think I spent about $ 40 to get the 4th MGM property reward.
It would be nice to see some new shows added to the menu. We're flying in on 03/22.
My question is... what to do with all those LP? Everything that I can get through there is stuff that I already get comped at any MGM/Mirage property. I am already not paying for suites / food / drinks / show tickets. So, I'm just wondering (since I know that a lot of people around here are already well-comped): What do you all get with them?
I noticed that for a while they had freeplay as rewards, but it was in $25 increments and sold out pretty quickly. Is this as good as I'm going to get, or are there some other rewards that I should be checking for?
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceMy question is... what to do with all those LP?
I don't know much, but since nobody else answered ... the myVegas benefits are basically rooms, food and shows. The recent freeplay opportunity was a nice addition, but I presume they're unlikely to offer it in truly meaningful denominations. Beyond that, I suppose the only other possibilities would involve partnerships such as the monorail.
And in your situation as a valued Mlife player, you probably have to worry about "screwing up your average" when redeeming rewards. My Mlife player's card tier level is "slime," so I can redeem anything any time without worrying, because I won't receive offers regardless.
How is Axiom getting all these comps already?
Quote: gpac1377I don't know much, but since nobody else answered ... the myVegas benefits are basically rooms, food and shows. The recent freeplay opportunity was a nice addition, but I presume they're unlikely to offer it in truly meaningful denominations. Beyond that, I suppose the only other possibilities would involve partnerships such as the monorail.
And in your situation as a valued Mlife player, you probably have to worry about "screwing up your average" when redeeming rewards. My Mlife player's card tier level is "slime," so I can redeem anything any time without worrying, because I won't receive offers regardless.
My average what? If I'm there I'm going to play at my normal levels.
Quote: UTHfanMy inner donk is asking, have you seen any of Myvegas's slots in vegas for real?
How is Axiom getting all these comps already?
By playing....
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceMy average what? If I'm there I'm going to play at my normal levels.
I was referring to average daily or trip theo, but if you intend to play on occasions when you redeem rewards, then no problem.
Quote: UTHfanMy inner donk is asking, have you seen any of Myvegas's slots in vegas for real?
That's not intended, as far as I know. Also, a lot of the slots have design features that would be undesirable for a real casino, due to the "vulture" potential when players accumulate progress toward a goal (such as stepping up a ladder to qualify for free spins).
Quote: gpac1377That's not intended, as far as I know. Also, a lot of the slots have design features that would be undesirable for a real casino, due to the "vulture" potential when players accumulate progress toward a goal (such as stepping up a ladder to qualify for free spins).
The vulture potential is easily avoided by changing the stepping up the ladder to just getting the bonus on one spin instead. Anyway, I think 25k on 3 hands is better than 75 on one. The time may be slower, but the volitity is less so it is advantageous.
Quote: gpac1377I was referring to average daily or trip theo, but if you intend to play on occasions when you redeem rewards, then no problem.
Oh, yeah. That makes sense.
I've actually found that MGM is a lot less anal about that sort of thing than people claim that CET is. My host pretty much knows my level of play and if I have a trip where I gamble less than normal (because I'm partying a lot or whatever) it's no big deal. I guess as long as the numbers work out at the end of the year, she is happy.
Quote: UTHfanoh so free spins don't work that way in the real world? Interesting, I would never play slots...but I find myself enjoying these.
Usually one event triggers the free spins, rather than an accumulation of events.
I actually don't love the myVegas slots, but Facebook is jam-packed with sites offering actual casino games, although the other sites lack the real-world prizes available from myVegas. Examples include DoubleDown, High 5, and Jackpot Party.
Quote: djatcMGM seems to be more stingier than CET. I'm a platinum and don't get jack diddly. My ADT is crushed but I still get rooms from CET, so where's the love?
I think that I talked about this in another thread. The problem with platinum is that it's such a wide range that it's meaningless.
Platinum is 200,000 tier credits in a year. First of all, you get 25 tier credits for every dollar you spend on food, room, drinks, retail, or anything else that you can charge to your room (except tax and tips). So, you can get platinum by just spending $8000 in a year and not placing a single bet (for example, if you just like to go to vegas to party, but not gamble).
2nd, even if you got to platinum by gambling, the next level after platinum is noir, which is now invite-only. It used to be automatic if you got 1,000,000 tier credits in a year, but now that it is invite-only I have heard (from someone at m-life, so I believe it) that they won't start considering offering you noir until you hit 2,000,000 tier credits in a year. Perhaps there are exceptions for people with very few trips and very high ADT, but I think that the rule of thumb is 2,000,000 total.
So, it isn't very descriptive to say that you are platinum. Are you platinum from getting 250,000 tier credits over 10 trips in a year, or are you platinum from getting 1.5 million tier credits over 4 trips? Both are "platinum" customers but obviously they are nowhere near the same level of value to the casino.
On the very low end of platinum, you will get your tier discount and maybe the occasional free room. At the mid-end, you are getting comped suites, food, show tickets, limo rides to/from the airport, etc, etc (that's where I am). I don't even know what you get at the "high end" where you are close to noir level but not quite, but I assume that it's quite a bit more, because I am nowhere near noir level.
As far as I'm concerned, the best thing about platinum is skipping those taxi lines. There is nothing like walking to the front of a 30-minute taxi line and getting the next cab while everyone else gives you dirty looks :)
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceI think that I talked about this in another thread. The problem with platinum is that it's such a wide range that it's meaningless.
Platinum is 200,000 tier credits in a year. First of all, you get 25 tier credits for every dollar you spend on food, room, drinks, retail, or anything else that you can charge to your room (except tax and tips). So, you can get platinum by just spending $8000 in a year and not placing a single bet (for example, if you just like to go to vegas to party, but not gamble).
2nd, even if you got to platinum by gambling, the next level after platinum is noir, which is now invite-only. It used to be automatic if you got 1,000,000 tier credits in a year, but now that it is invite-only I have heard (from someone at m-life, so I believe it) that they won't start considering offering you noir until you hit 2,000,000 tier credits in a year. Perhaps there are exceptions for people with very few trips and very high ADT, but I think that the rule of thumb is 2,000,000 total.
So, it isn't very descriptive to say that you are platinum. Are you platinum from getting 250,000 tier credits over 10 trips in a year, or are you platinum from getting 1.5 million tier credits over 4 trips? Both are "platinum" customers but obviously they are nowhere near the same level of value to the casino.
On the very low end of platinum, you will get your tier discount and maybe the occasional free room. At the mid-end, you are getting comped suites, food, show tickets, limo rides to/from the airport, etc, etc (that's where I am). I don't even know what you get at the "high end" where you are close to noir level but not quite, but I assume that it's quite a bit more, because I am nowhere near noir level.
As far as I'm concerned, the best thing about platinum is skipping those taxi lines. There is nothing like walking to the front of a 30-minute taxi line and getting the next cab while everyone else gives you dirty looks :)
I just squeeked in at 25000 tier credits so maybe that's the reason why, but I did the same for diamond at CET. I did lose a ton at Luxor once and they sent me some room offers but I still had to pay the resort fee since I was only at Pearl.
I enjoy line cutting. Diamond at Baccanal buffet really pays off, as well as the cashiers cage. Also I just got emerald at boyd and that saves me a ton of time at the buffets as well. I also enjoy the dirty looks from people as I cut through at least 20 or so parties :)
Accumulate red chips (I have over 5 mil) and all you need to do is wait for double LP on level ups. So, I'll get 2,000 every time I level up. By getting 40,000 xp a hand, it takes me about 4 minutes to get 1,000,000 xp. That means that in an hour I can pretty much get 10 level ups which is 20K in gold. I lose about 500 red a hand which means I can do this for a long long time.
So I can pretty much get anything I want, the issue is that I don't have the time to get to Vegas. For those that do, this is a super easy way to stay wherever you want for free.
Quote: FinsRuleWell, I've officially figured the system to pretty much get anything I want for free...
Accumulate red chips (I have over 5 mil) and all you need to do is wait for double LP on level ups. So, I'll get 2,000 every time I level up. By getting 40,000 xp a hand, it takes me about 4 minutes to get 1,000,000 xp. That means that in an hour I can pretty much get 10 level ups which is 20K in gold. I lose about 500 red a hand which means I can do this for a long long time.
Isn't there a limit on how many LP you can earn in 24 hours?
Quote: FinsRuleWell, I've officially figured the system to pretty much get anything I want for free...
Accumulate red chips (I have over 5 mil) and all you need to do is wait for double LP on level ups.
What level are you at ? You know that the amount of XP chips it takes to level up gets higher the higher your level, right ?
The other downside I have seen is that the best prizes, like 2 premium show tickets, can only be redeemed once per account, ever. At least I think that's how it works.
I'm a big MyVegas fan. It is still a great way to get some very valuable rewards for free.
Quote: FinsRuleWell, I've officially figured the system to pretty much get anything I want for free...
Accumulate red chips (I have over 5 mil) and all you need to do is wait for double LP on level ups. So, I'll get 2,000 every time I level up. By getting 40,000 xp a hand, it takes me about 4 minutes to get 1,000,000 xp. That means that in an hour I can pretty much get 10 level ups which is 20K in gold. I lose about 500 red a hand which means I can do this for a long long time.
So I can pretty much get anything I want, the issue is that I don't have the time to get to Vegas. For those that do, this is a super easy way to stay wherever you want for free.
A lot of people talk about doing this.
Most recommend doing it with 8 million or more chips, although of course it doesn't matter (assuming that you only spend your chips during those events)
Note that double xp is just as good as double LP on level ups (2x the levels instead of 2x the LP per level)
update: To get to level 755, I will need 3.985 million more XP's.
I have been hoping to buy enough red chips to sneak up on a 5th reward allowance since I have a bunch of GOLD still and am headed to Vegas in 3 weeks.
Mrs Q is at a lower myVegas level and she has 1 redemption (her 4th) left so we are trying to get that up high enough to get her gold chips up high enough to get something decent.
Quote: JohnnyQWere all the good prizes for premium show tickets removed or do they just not show up because I am logging in from Las Vegas ?
they are all still there for me. Are you living in Vegas or are you visiting and you logged in from there?
If you are visiting they always say NEVER log in because it will flag your account as a local and you will lose all of the good rewards. Not sure if you can email them to fix that once you are back.
Quote: JohnnyQWere all the good prizes for premium show tickets removed or do they just not show up because I am logging in from Las Vegas ?
If they're not showing up at all (as opposed to always being sold out), it's probably because you're in Vegas; I got a ticket to Love this morning, and one of the conditions was that it was intended for "non-Las Vegas" players.
(If you are seeing the prize but it is always sold out, the reset time is 7 AM Pacific time, and the hot tickets sell out in under two minutes. When I got my Love "premium" ticket, it refreshed from "Sold Out" to "4 Left Today".)
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4 premium seats to ZARKANA at ARIA. (Good seats near the front and off to the side a little bit. For this particular show, I didn't see anyone in the balcony seating area).
4 premium seats to KA at MGM (we were 3rd row in the center section. I enjoyed seeing the performers up close like that. At times they run across the walkway which is right in front of the front row. And when the ship is swirling out of control, it extends over the first several rows. Very cool ).
2 premium seats to BEATLES LOVE at MIRAGE.
4 free buffets at MIRAGE which we used before the BEATLES show. And as a bonus, they host gave us 2 additional BOGO coupons that we were able to use for brunch a couple of days later.
2 free buffets at MONTE CARLO which we didn't have time to use, so I cancelled that once I was back home and booked the GOLD chips back into the account.
We are thinking about going back to Las Vegas in the summer. I hope there are some new prizes, since between this trip and last year I have pretty much used all the good show deals. As far as I know, you can only book the same offer one time.
Quote: JohnnyQmyVegas Round-up for last week's trip
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4 premium seats to ZARKANA at MIRAGE. (Good seats near the front and off to the side a little bit. For this particular show, I didn't see anyone in the balcony seating area).
Are you sure it was at Mirage? ;)
Good amount of offers though. Hope you had a great time!
I just got my mlife players card and I was wondering if there's a better and fastest way to earn points for myvegas. What's the best way or most important thing I should do before I link my mlife,fb, and myvegas? In other words I would like to know if there's a specific way to do it so I can get better results.
Thank you in advance.
A lot of people play blackjack but you earn points half as fast.
I personally collect my chips as often as possible and I hoard them until they do a double points day. Don't get suckered into the promotions with the scratch cards. They will make you go broke faster than you can get the cards filled.
Quote: lildevilLucyHello
I just got my mlife players card and I was wondering if there's a better and fastest way to earn points for myvegas. What's the best way or most important thing I should do before I link my mlife,fb, and myvegas? In other words I would like to know if there's a specific way to do it so I can get better results.
Thank you in advance.
Join one of the facebook groups dedicated to it and get 50 friends, this will get you more "gifts" and bigger bonus kicker every day. As others said, wait for Double XP so you level up faster, which gives a bigger daily spin.
Personally I have all the points I will be able to use for when I make it out, I hope later this year or next January. I just keep collecting and play once in awhile.
Quote: tringlomaneAre you sure it was at Mirage? ;)
Good amount of offers though. Hope you had a great time!
You are quite correct, Zarkana is at ARIA. I'll go back and fix the original post.
Guys...the new panda game that was just introduced is I think giving +EV right now.
Play big when you do it for the first time. The bonuses are crazy.
Quote: UTHfanJebus.
Guys...the new panda game that was just introduced is I think giving +EV right now.
Play big when you do it for the first time. The bonuses are crazy.
I won about a million red last night.
