discflicker
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August 29th, 2015 at 3:22:49 AM permalink
Let's call this one "Virtual Cage" after "Virtual Fence" dog containment systems. Its very simple:

WHEN THE DEALER ANNOUNCES "NO MORE BETS", A WALL OF LIGHT SURROUNDS THE ROULETTE WAGERING FIELD. IF ANYONE CROSSES THE WALL WITH THEIR HANDS, IT WILL BRIGHTLY GLOW, THUS ALERTING THE DEALER.

A thin, reflective strip is taped onto the layout, surrounding the betting filed. A set of laser lamps is installed above the Roulette table, shinning onto the reflective strip when turned on. The dealer has a foot switch (or whatever) to turn the lamps on at "No more bets" and turn them off after he resolves the outcome.
I am certain that anyone who plays the game or deals the game can appreciate this invention.

It may also be tied into alarming systems by installing photo sensors that look for illuminations when the wall is crossed. This is not the same as current technology that looks for broken streams of light, this is a passive system that reflects light off of the mirrored strip and illuminates anything within the path of reflection. It should be sensitive enough to detect tiny robotic devices that might be crawling around these secure areas!!!

I know this invention is already in place, but I want to tie it into an electronic "No More Bets" signaling system. It would be useful, in this case, for providing an interface for handicapped people to use... REMEMBER THAT TREAD?? The one where Jerry Logan got kicked out of the forum??

This invention can be used for ANY kind of security desired: around the bank at table games, in front of chip cabinets in the poker room, around the cakes on the counter top in the coffee shop, wherever!!

Comments and questions are welcome, Thanks for your interest.

Marty, 29-Aug-2015
The difference between zero and the smallest possible number? It doesn't matter; once you cross that edge, it might as well be the difference between zero and 1. The difference between infinity and reality? They are mutually exclusive.
Dalex64
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August 29th, 2015 at 7:38:05 AM permalink
It would be a lot easier to physically block the betting area with something like a glass clamshell, or multiple glass clamshells,

And it would also be pretty easy to have rfid tags in the chips, register the bets when the chips hit the table, and stop registering bets at the appropriate time, even if more chips are added later or moved.
tongni
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August 29th, 2015 at 8:16:32 AM permalink
An amateur roulette cheat will get snapped quickly, laser light or not. A professional will just go to play craps or blackjack. Also, most serious roulette players would not like something like this. Posting close to the NMB call is as much a part of the game as setting the dice in craps. Making them feel like a criminal as their hands are illuminated in light as they try to place a final bet is not good.
Dieter
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August 29th, 2015 at 3:13:07 PM permalink
The type of light curtains used in industrial settings (around large machine tools for instance) require vertical pillars at the corners of each protected area.

Those pillars would get in the way of placing bets.

If that were changed, so that the betting area were surrounded by a reflector, and the emitter/sensor for the light curtain were above, there would need to be some way to secure their relative orientations. Any wobble will give a false indication.

In any case, it is traditional for the dealer to wave their hand over the layout, signalling "No More Bets" - the curtain would probably trigger on that.
May the cards fall in your favor.
tomchina123
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August 29th, 2015 at 5:36:55 PM permalink
good idea.
ShineyShine
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August 30th, 2015 at 10:17:01 PM permalink
I see no need for this, until the technology advances and becomes readily available at affordable prices. Maybe in 20/30 years time this will be an issue, but not now.

This kind of tech would be worth a fortune, so using it for a casino scam right now is small time. Maybe this kind of stuff will be commonplace in the future, as familiar as a smart phone is at the moment, but right now i don't think its an issue.

Edit; By "This kind of tech", i mean nano bot technology that could be used to cheat on table games, which the OP referred to, and also started another thread about.

This device to prevent late betting from human players is i think unnecessary; the dealers and supervisors should be able to handle this.
Dodsferd
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August 30th, 2015 at 10:31:22 PM permalink
I see far too many 'cons' over 'pros' for something like this. First and foremost, the reflective light would be irritating as hell for any Surveillance operators. Just having attentive staff both on and off the gaming floor trumps the need for some sort of net or cage, whether virtual or not.

If any sort of "security" was implemented into gaming, I'd prefer if RFID chips made their way into the scene. This opens a large venue of opportunities.
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Ibeatyouraces
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August 30th, 2015 at 10:33:30 PM permalink
Just ask the casinos how popular the roulette i-tables are...
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
Dieter
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August 31st, 2015 at 6:51:41 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Just ask the casinos how popular the roulette i-tables are...



This would have the advantage of chips on the felt.
May the cards fall in your favor.
discflicker
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August 31st, 2015 at 7:14:35 PM permalink
Quote: Dieter

This would have the advantage of chips on the felt.



Exactly... this would hopefully prevent high-tech theft that we haven't though of yet.
The difference between zero and the smallest possible number? It doesn't matter; once you cross that edge, it might as well be the difference between zero and 1. The difference between infinity and reality? They are mutually exclusive.

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