THESWEENEY
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May 7th, 2014 at 5:23:49 AM permalink
Anyone here attending tomorrow evening's new table game showcase at Grosvenor Ricoh Coventry?
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May 7th, 2014 at 8:21:20 AM permalink
Yes, i'm going.
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May 8th, 2014 at 2:09:21 AM permalink
Yes - also see http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/other-games/15382-new-games-showcase-uk-grosvenor-casinos-17-10-2013/5/ which follows on from the last one.
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May 8th, 2014 at 5:09:08 PM permalink
One for the Money is being presented there tonight, among other games; preliminary reports are good, but I'd love to hear any specifics any of you have on how it went, interest level, if you played it what you thought, etc. And hope it went well for you, Stephen, too!
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May 9th, 2014 at 2:20:06 PM permalink
Attended last night and, as with all events hosted by Paul Davies, proved to be an excellent evening. My personal favourites on the night were BJ War, Bacabo, and the aforementioned One For The Money.
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May 9th, 2014 at 2:21:03 PM permalink
Hi Babs,

Didnt play One for the Money, as id played it in London and knew i liked it, and there were loads of other games to get through. It seemed to be getting plenty of play every time i passed. There were loads of people with Ipads going round getting feedback.
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May 9th, 2014 at 2:38:07 PM permalink
Quote: THESWEENEY

Attended last night and, as with all events hosted by Paul Davies, proved to be an excellent evening. My personal favourites on the night were BJ War, Bacabo, and the aforementioned One For The Money.



Very enjoyable night. My top 3 were One for the Money, King High Poker and Roulette-18.
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May 9th, 2014 at 5:11:38 PM permalink
It was a good evening and glad to have met up with Geoff, Stephen and many others. It was fun playing at the same table as several high placed people from Maidenhead; had a good chat about how the business is changing and how Grosvenor is willing to give new games a chance.

I didn't manage to get to all the games, some tables were double sided so I also missed a few I'd like to have found.

Several were sidebets, variation on an existing theme or I'd seen them before (probably ICE) - so I didn't look too closely at them:
(1) Big Money Wheel - same as the known game but a nicely lit up wheel.
(4) Super Pairs - very similar to Perfect Pairs with the addition of "Suited Trips". I liked the addition of an even bigger long shot (pays 50/1), but personally would have preferred any Trips and reduce the other payouts, say Suited Pairs to 25/1.
(5) Lucky Win - similar to the Dragon Bet ( http://www.ukcasinotablegames.info/puntoluckywin.html ) in that it pays on a certain unlikely event for either the player or banker.
(9) Roulette-18 - Nice touch by Stephen as uses a dice rather than a wheel - layout has 1-18 and single 0.
(10) Double Hit Split Roulette - another one by Stephen: there is a duplicate small layout, you pick a split - if it comes up once it pays 11/1 and twice pays 125/1. I like the idea that a bet can win something reasonable with an additional chance to win big. There's mileage here!
(11) Puk-A-Luk - a vertical mounted roulette machine using a hoop and 37 pins, where the players can spin it using a fruit-machine like handle. Nice idea, certainly an attraction and different way to select the result.
(12) Prime Time - this was Geoff's only "game" and paid increasing payouts depending on number of consecutive primes. It worked well when in the middle of a run. One of the problem with some of these bets (from the casino's viewpoint) is that the bet pays everyone at the table - but I guess that's similar to Craps when a hot shooter comes along - so has a large variance for the house.
(13) Shark's Predator - sidebet for cash games that pays (similar to 3 card-poker Pair+) based on the first three cards. Personally I wasn't convinced that cash tables would want to distraction.
(18) Vortex - this was an interesting contraption that took 20 pool-like snooker balls and picked them - similar to a lottery draw.

New Games

(3) Action Hold 'Em - A poker game where you see your two-cards initially, fold or CALL, see the dealer's and the flop, optional bet, and win or lose after the river. Your bets are 1 Ante then 2 Call then (optional) 3. A computer reads all the cards and gives you true odds (less house edge) for your call bets and displays it on a screen. In theory the correct strategy is to always call and decide whether to make the optional bet.
What I initially didn't like was you didn't know how to calculate the House Edge (obviously you can check for any given hand whether the computer has given you reasonable value) and there seemed no strategy (subsequent analysis suggests the best House Edge is achieved, due to rounding on heavily odds on bets having to pay 50p, when you make the smallest bet possible - personally it works better using ticket money rather than chips).
However for people who like poker it offered different scenarios varying from when you're favourite to win, to when you're a great underdog - but in all cases giving you appropriate odds.
Summary - interesting but not convinced.

(6a) Solitaire Stud Poker - Similar to High Card Flush both sides receive seen cards but in this game make a straight with alternating colours. Uses Ante Play mechanism and house qualifies with any 2-card run. Nice idea and the sidebet (1% HE) is better than the main game - so worth playing.
Summary - found it more interesting than HCF but slightly annoying to have to remember Ace was low only (I could see myself setting AK).

(6b) One For The Money - this seemed popular and has already gone live in Aspers. Hopefully Grosvenor would have liked this and will pick it up. It's simple, gives players something to do and two easy decisions to make.

(7) Shake 'Em - I never saw this game.

(8) 10 - Spin Blackjack - There's a 10-segment wheel on the layout (12-21) and three of these are picked. You make a Blackjack bet, and Red/Black bet and a Spin Triple bet - there are other sidebets. If your second card is Red/Black you win evens (i.e. Zero HE), and if the total of it and 10 are one of the three on the wheel you win 2-1. Pictures don't count and your first card is used instead, but pays 1-1. Two pictures means standoff.
Summary - you had to make all three bets, the house edge was quite high, it was quite time consuming to deal and personally I couldn't see the advantage over regular BJ.

(14) King-High Poker - Essentially you bet at your own seat on each round whether the next card was Hi (8-K)/Lo (A-6), 7, S/H/D/C. Each five rounds, the cards are kept to form a poker hand, for the resolution of another sidebet.
Summary - nice to have your own betting position and fairly simple.

(15) War Blackjack - Similar to Hou$e Money but much simpler and pays Evens. Aces are low and if your card beats the dealer's you win and can add the winnings (but not the stake) to your BJ bet [before you get your second card]. Strategy is fairly simple, since you win with a one-point advantage (e.g. 8-10 vs 7) nearly always pays to play (except not against A or 10). Note you win 2-10 vs A, so that's a nice payout as your BJ bet is likely to lose. Unlike hou$e money you don't have to put too much of your own if there's a double or split (and with HM every split will have won).
Summary - the winner by miles - it's simple, a nice variation, easy to understand. Only downside is it takes a space for a sidebet.

(16a) Catch-A-Match
(16b) BaCaBo - Didn't get time to play either of these

(17) Pokerlette - Roulette like layout and payouts using all 52 cards and 2 jokers. Fancy method used to pick five cards. Bets are straight up (pays 9.5 to 1) if any of the five cards are the one selected. Various outside bets, eg. 3-card result, 5-card result.
Summary - interesting alternative to Roulette, but not my cup-of-tea.
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May 9th, 2014 at 10:01:38 PM permalink
Very nice reviews, guys, thanks so much for the feedback. Very exciting to hear that the game was getting good traffic. Yay!
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May 10th, 2014 at 1:08:06 AM permalink
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One for the Money is being presented there tonight, among other games; preliminary reports are good, but I'd love to hear any specifics any of you have on how it went, interest level, if you played it what you thought, etc. And hope it went well for you, Stephen, too!


Hi Babs,
Yes, the show went vary well for me.
Your game is one of the best at the show.
Stephen Au-Yeung (Legend of New Table Games®) NewTableGames.com

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