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July 31st, 2021 at 10:18:43 AM permalink
Card recognition from a ceiling camera has to be a whole lot easier than facial recognition. One rotating camera on the ceiling could watch an entire bank of machines. It would either ignore empty seats or just spend a couple minutes watching one player then move to another. All its motion hidden behind the black bubble
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July 31st, 2021 at 10:19:29 AM permalink
As an AP I would already be into seeing how much better comps you get for playing lousy VP.

Rewarding lousy player's might actually be more profitable in the long run than playing perfect VP.

This is the problem with stopping AP's. Casino execs just can't think like an AP does.
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July 31st, 2021 at 10:22:08 AM permalink
In the future, APs will be 86'd by a robot which plucks a player out of the seat and tosses him in the backroom.
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July 31st, 2021 at 10:22:15 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

As an AP I would already be into seeing how much better comps you get for playing lousy VP.

Rewarding lousy player's might actually be more profitable in the long run than playing perfect VP.

This is the problem with stopping AP's. Casino execs just can't think like an AP does.



Well, I wasn't going to come out and say it, but the bowling league reference in my first post was talking about sandbagging.
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July 31st, 2021 at 10:23:13 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

In the future, APs will be 86'd by a robot which plucks a player out of the seat and tosses him in the backroom.



They already have those. They are called, "Security personnel."
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July 31st, 2021 at 10:29:05 AM permalink
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They already have those. They are called, "Security personnel."



Only difference, is you get to see players flail their arms and legs in midair as they are carried away.
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July 31st, 2021 at 10:38:48 AM permalink
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Only difference, is you get to see players flail their arms and legs in midair as they are carried away.



Lol, I have seen that already!
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July 31st, 2021 at 10:40:14 AM permalink
"I'm going to whip your *** as soon as you put me back down!!!"
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July 31st, 2021 at 10:53:28 AM permalink
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Casinos have always tried to eliminate skilled players. They have thrown out card counters for 50 years.


Yea, but there are way more sensible ways to do that. It makes no sense why casinos often choose the most hostile and expensive solutions.

Casinos continue to harass and backroom card counters when simply flat betting them would be sufficient.

If casinos want to mitigate Video Poker AP, they can nerf the players club points for high RTP games like CET (and Iím sure others), simply not offer pay tables capable of over 100% return, and do some really basic math when they offer promotions.

This product is only useful for braindead casino management, so it might actually be quite successful.
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July 31st, 2021 at 11:04:43 AM permalink
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Yea, but there are way more sensible ways to do that. It makes no sense why casinos often choose the most hostile and expensive solutions.



What, why the managers would? I don't know...maybe they get taken out to dinner, expensive drinks, some nose candy, get some gifts and maybe even a decent prostitute on the dime of the company selling them the devices. All the while, they can tell their superiors they're being proactive with an eye towards protecting company assets.

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Casinos continue to harass and backroom card counters when simply flat betting them would be sufficient.

If casinos want to mitigate Video Poker AP, they can nerf the players club points for high RTP games like CET (and Iím sure others), simply not offer pay tables capable of over 100% return, and do some really basic math when they offer promotions.

This product is only useful for braindead casino management, so it might actually be quite successful.



What would be more efficient is to not worry about card counters at all, at least, below certain stakes.

Second paragraph (VP) exactly. It really wouldn't be difficult. Also, here are three banks of machines where every game has a theoretical return to player of 99.5%+, but don't even have a players club card insert...have a blast. Maybe even throw the hair over 100% DB on there just for gigs. Quarter denomination or lower, anything higher and the paytable is worse, but still over 99.5%.
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