bobbartop
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October 27th, 2018 at 6:40:25 AM permalink
For a long time there was really only two players who played this game, me and another guy. Of course, I played full coin, and knew the odd strategy well as I had studied. The other guy intuitively played it fairly well, except for one major flaw, he always played short coin. There was a progressive jackpot, 3-way, royal, straight flush, and any quads. My friend played the game almost every day, and it seemed like it was the only game he played. Even though he played fairly well, he had no chance, since he played short coin he would never be eligible for the jackpots, even if he hit the royal. Since it was only us playing, essentially he built me a positive play almost every day because the jackpot on the quad would go unhit, until I came along to pick it off. This was bread and butter for me for over a year. I never tried to wise him up, why ruin a good thing, and he seemed happy enough. And he was a nice guy, an older man, but obviously with money troubles, though he always found a buy-in.

A couple months ago I started noticing that the jackpots were not building while I was away. I hadn't seen my friend either. So I stopped playing, because I never found it in a positive state.

Yesterday I asked about him. I figured maybe he finally went broke. Maybe he did, I don't know. But he's dead. Cancer. Game over.
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FinsRule
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October 27th, 2018 at 8:13:03 AM permalink
How do you know he had money troubles?
billryan
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October 27th, 2018 at 9:48:45 AM permalink
Your compassion is impressive.
michael99000
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October 27th, 2018 at 9:56:21 AM permalink
Maybe see if his next of kin can step in and start funding your jackpots.
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October 27th, 2018 at 10:23:35 AM permalink
Quote: bobbartop

For a long time there was really only two players who played this game, me and another guy. Of course, I played full coin, and knew the odd strategy well as I had studied. The other guy intuitively played it fairly well, except for one major flaw, he always played short coin. There was a progressive jackpot, 3-way, royal, straight flush, and any quads. My friend played the game almost every day, and it seemed like it was the only game he played. Even though he played fairly well, he had no chance, since he played short coin he would never be eligible for the jackpots, even if he hit the royal. Since it was only us playing, essentially he built me a positive play almost every day because the jackpot on the quad would go unhit, until I came along to pick it off. This was bread and butter for me for over a year. I never tried to wise him up, why ruin a good thing, and he seemed happy enough. And he was a nice guy, an older man, but obviously with money troubles, though he always found a buy-in.

A couple months ago I started noticing that the jackpots were not building while I was away. I hadn't seen my friend either. So I stopped playing, because I never found it in a positive state.

Yesterday I asked about him. I figured maybe he finally went broke. Maybe he did, I don't know. But he's dead. Cancer. Game over.

Perhaps there's more you don't want to say and I'm making some assumptions in my head. How many coins was he playing? How many coins did it take to be eligible for the progressives? Was this a typical 1-5 coin VP machine? What was the meter move? It seems as if the meter move and pay-table would have to be fairly good for 1 coin to keep moving it into a good playable territory. I would hope no one whos been playing a 5 coin progressive regularly for a year would play 4 out of 5 coins without wising up.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
bobbartop
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October 27th, 2018 at 11:20:12 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Perhaps there's more you don't want to say and I'm making some assumptions in my head. How many coins was he playing? How many coins did it take to be eligible for the progressives? Was this a typical 1-5 coin VP machine? What was the meter move? It seems as if the meter move and pay-table would have to be fairly good for 1 coin to keep moving it into a good playable territory. I would hope no one whos been playing a 5 coin progressive regularly for a year would play 4 out of 5 coins without wising up.



Going from quads to royal, the three meters were 1/2-1/4-1/4. I think he generally played two coins. A player needed 5 coins to hit any of the three. But he practically lived at the casino. If I skipped a day, the quads jackpot would be way up, waiting for me. I hit the $2000 royal once, by accident, I was just trying to crack the quads and had only meant to stay until then. This game got no play except from me and him.

He was a nice man. If I had known he had died, I would have asked about funeral/memorial. The more I think of it, the sadder it seems. This man was terminal, and spent his last days on Earth nickel and diming a video poker machine. And smoking cigarettes. I didn't even know he was sick. I'd like to think that if I ever reach my end and I know about it, I'd find something better to do with my last days. But who knows, I may go the same route, I love video poker.

RIP
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teddys
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October 28th, 2018 at 2:18:04 PM permalink
Interesting and tragic story. Reminds me of the Wizard's witnessing a death inside the Las Vegas Hilton.
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October 28th, 2018 at 2:59:05 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

Interesting and tragic story. Reminds me of the Wizard's witnessing a death inside the Las Vegas Hilton.



On my second trip to Vegas in the mid to late 90's I saw a lady who died at a machine in the Hilton. People were still playing nearby.
BlackjackLover
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October 28th, 2018 at 3:22:52 PM permalink
You were such a good friend.

Quote: bobbartop


The more I think of it, the sadder it seems. This man was terminal, and spent his last days on Earth nickel and diming a video poker machine. And smoking cigarettes. I didn't even know he was sick. I'd like to think that if I ever reach my end and I know about it, I'd find something better to do with my last days. But who knows, I may go the same route, I love video poker.


I fail to see how it is sad. It's most likely that he didn't intend to win a lot of money, so I assume that he played it for fun.
FleaStiff
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October 28th, 2018 at 3:56:37 PM permalink
I don't know. Some people just don't ever see 'the obvious'.

I'm reminded of the poker player, poker blogger, drug addict for whom I tried to be a moral compass and contributor to her commissary account.

Another member of this forum had a much more customary relationship with the young lady. It seems she never did realize she was not a good poker player and she never realized that the reason for many of her drug arrests is that her own friends were setting her up so they could 'walk' on their own drug charges.

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