RS
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April 10th, 2017 at 7:20:02 AM permalink
The one with the highest return is.....the one with the highest returns.

1 N0 is when EV = 1 SD

Figure out how many degrees of certainty you want, then figure out how many SD's that is, then determine how many rounds that is by using EV=SD formula.
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billryan
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April 10th, 2017 at 9:21:28 AM permalink
Quote: RS

The one with the highest return is.....the one with the highest returns.

1 N0 is when EV = 1 SD

Figure out how many degrees of certainty you want, then figure out how many SD's that is, then determine how many rounds that is by using EV=SD formula.

English please. Not everyone speaks geek.
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djatc
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April 10th, 2017 at 9:33:39 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

English please. Not everyone speaks geek.

RS's post looks like a thinly veiled insult. Nuclear ban?
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LostWages
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April 10th, 2017 at 12:12:46 PM permalink
Quote: bobbartop

I'd add about 9 coins to any quad. In that case, 10-7 DB will return 100.59%. If you're Emerald, add .10%, (1/3 points), for a total of 100.69%. Forget about bounceback, I can't figure out what any Boyd Property is doing in that category now.

Do the same thing with JoB, add 9 coins to quads, and it returns 99.97%. Add full points for Emerald, .30%, totals 100.27%.

Playing VP that offers scratchers for a natural 4 should improve the ER, as you've described. However, I do not understand where to add the 9 coins to make DB 10/7 100.17% to 100.59%. (I'm still just a Ruby). It sounds like simple arithmetic?

Thanks for providing an estimate of the "long run" around 3 million hands (full time play for a year and a half)! I understand the value of using software to run sims, but I'm not yet ready to try it.

I forgot to explain that I selected 3 VP games at MSS because I'm not able to fight the severe smoke conditions at the nearby Cal. Actually, I should add more "favor" points (3 coins?) to the Boar's Head Bar for great customer service, double shots on my Bailey's, proximity to the restrooms, buffet, & 777, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, a relatively smoke-free environment compared to the rest of the casino! Hopping around to other casinos is not a current option. Thanks for your time and attention!
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RS
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April 10th, 2017 at 12:20:07 PM permalink
Add 9 coins to any four of a kind.
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rsactuary
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April 10th, 2017 at 12:21:24 PM permalink
The scratchers offer \$2 at a minimum.. up to \$5000. I add 9 quarters to 4ofaK and Straight/Royal flushes when I'm factoring in my return as well. You can't know exactly what the return is on the scratch cards, but it has to be something more than \$2 (8 quarters), but given the super majority of the scratchers are \$2, I add 9 quarters to cover the potential extra.

You only do this at MSS, no where else.
rsactuary
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April 10th, 2017 at 12:21:55 PM permalink
Quote: RS

Add 9 coins to any four of a kind.

And straight flush and royal flush.
bobbartop
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Thanks for this post from:
April 10th, 2017 at 12:44:19 PM permalink
Quote: LostWages

Playing VP that offers scratchers for a natural 4 should improve the ER, as you've described. However, I do not understand where to add the 9 coins to make DB 10/7 100.17% to 100.59%. (I'm still just a Ruby). It sounds like simple arithmetic?

Thanks for providing an estimate of the "long run" around 3 million hands (full time play for a year and a half)! I understand the value of using software to run sims, but I'm not yet ready to try it.

I forgot to explain that I selected 3 VP games at MSS because I'm not able to fight the severe smoke conditions at the nearby Cal. Actually, I should add more "favor" points (3 coins?) to the Boar's Head Bar for great customer service, double shots on my Bailey's, proximity to the restrooms, buffet, & 777, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, a relatively smoke-free environment compared to the rest of the casino! Hopping around to other casinos is not a current option. Thanks for your time and attention!

Lost Wages, please do yourself the best favor you can possibly do, get the software. Off the top of my head I think it's less than \$50, best money you'll ever invest. Please do it for yourself. There's Bob Dancer's software, there's Wolf, both excellent, and there's WinPoker, still excellent.

Lost Wages, have you considered playing at Four Queens?
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bobbartop
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April 10th, 2017 at 12:46:15 PM permalink
Quote: rsactuary

Quote: RS

Add 9 coins to any four of a kind.

And straight flush and royal flush.

I did not know this. Are you absolutely sure? If so, thanks, I learned something. And I'll have to bump up my numbers a tiny bit.
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LostWages
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April 10th, 2017 at 1:00:40 PM permalink
Quote: bobbartop

Lost Wages, please do yourself the best favor you can possibly do, get the software. Off the top of my head I think it's less than \$50, best money you'll ever invest. Please do it for yourself. There's Bob Dancer's software, there's Wolf, both excellent, and there's WinPoker, still excellent.

Lost Wages, have you considered playing at Four Queens?

I've wanted to play at 4Q for the longest time, but my spouse prefers not to go there. Perhaps on a day she goes shopping, I will venture out!

Thanks for the encouragement to get the software - intellectually, I concur with you 100%. It's not the money, but rather the amount of disposable "free" time available after completing "honeydew" time. :-)

Several other posters chimed in about adding the 8 or 9 coins, but I'm still stumped as to "where" I'm adding it to get those ER % increased. I understand this is a situation (scratchers) unique to MSS. I think my description of adding 3 coins for the Boar's Head Bar conditions seals the deal for me (for now!).

Thanks again!
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