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cestanl
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September 25th, 2014 at 11:11:02 PM permalink
I heard from one of the pit bosses at Downstream Casino near Joplin, Mo., that the final day for Lunar Poker will be on September 30th. She told me it will be replaced by a 6 card pai gow poker variant. I'm assuming it will be the 6 card Fortune Pai Gow poker that's listed on the Shufflemaater site.
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September 26th, 2014 at 7:59:30 PM permalink
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Bottom line is loose lips sink ships. I'm with Axel on this, if you are an AP the worst thing you can do is talk about good plays.Why anyone would post all this info for free like Eliot AND Stephen How is a mystery. I can understand doing consulting but to put it out there for free?



I think they're trying to invite more people onto the ship.
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Paigowdan
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September 26th, 2014 at 11:10:39 PM permalink
They've basically fired off torpedoes.

They're not interested in more invitations onto the ship.

They're interested in sinking it straight away; punishing the operators now who offer it.
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After playing Lunar Poker, all other games are essentially dumb and pointless. I actually can’t imagine playing anything else. I thought a lot about the loss of Lunar Poker. I haven’t felt this empty in a long time."


An AP's embrace (or praise or exposure) is the kiss of death for a game, and its game protection rep.

No gambling hall operator will buy it now.

Eliot and Steve write game obituaries, death notices. Eliot does it on purpose. Steve more innocently, promisingly.
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes - Henry David Thoreau. Like Dealers' uniforms - Dan.
AxelWolf
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September 27th, 2014 at 8:02:40 AM permalink
Paigowdan

An AP's embrace (or praise or exposure) is the kiss of death for a game,.



Mostly true, but not always.

Ahigh is apparently involved in AP friendly slots let see if that's a good idea.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Paigowdan
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September 27th, 2014 at 9:01:55 AM permalink
Axel,
An operator will not/cannot remove BJ or Craps, just watch and monitor those games. Other games that are not un-removable standards will get removed if they dump.

We are of the opinion at this point that exposing a game's vulnerability quickly kills that vulnerability or the game itself.
Even if it is not widely known public knowledge, too many feeders at a trough will kill it off. Casino's just can't support tables that are ATM machines.

There is a sadness, a regret among AP's about the loss of any opportunity that was killed off by exposure. Others view it simply as a closing of the losing or imperfect game.
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Dobrij
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December 19th, 2015 at 1:33:57 PM permalink
Hello!
Sorry for my english : ) google - translate

Friend, I must say, and report that many online resources about Russian or Lunar poker, introduced each other in confusion, as there are more than 20 versions of this game. In this game there is a potential, but if you forget the rules a little nuance, it can cost from +/- 0.1% to 2.4% ev !!!


This game is more profitable for the casino. The strategy of the game is very complex, and the variance is large. Therefore, the player may seem that he won thanks to the optimal strategy. For profitable casino players to think so, be careful!


- gambling houses and casinos in rusian/lunar-poker to many eat marge ! Those rules are legal in most of the casinos around the world just robbery! To equalize the expectation Russian poker and good-old-Oasis,
Russian poker must clipped by rules x2 times to be aqal Oasis (according to the rules that are more common around the world is necessary to cut in half !)

So as not to meet all personal mail at the same thing:

if I have to calculate or ev of almost any casino game I always turn here or here : )


I hope this is not be taken as advertising, s information for the forum : ) I regular getting in personal e-mail a question about Russian or Lunar poker.
Mrcount451
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July 18th, 2022 at 4:08:32 AM permalink
Hello, would you be willing to share your collusion strategy?
flexing
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April 7th, 2023 at 3:16:52 AM permalink
It's one thing to see an advanced strategy but is there such a strategy out there for playing multiple hands? I know where to find the tables outside of the US
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April 7th, 2023 at 3:18:54 AM permalink
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Russian Poker is in the countries: Poland, Belarus, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Russia, Kazahtan, Moldova ..
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You missed an important country from the list. Contact me if you want to beat them
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April 7th, 2023 at 4:35:54 AM permalink
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You missed an important country from the list. Contact me if you want to beat them
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Does anyone know if the Barona still has this game?
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