silversonic2006
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October 9th, 2011 at 11:21:17 AM permalink
I've noticed chips in PA/NJ have little shapes ($25's have a triangle, $100's have an asterisk, etc) on them in addition to micro-dots. Is there anything special about these shapes? I guess they're there to prevent counterfeiting somehow, but I don't quite understand what adding a triangle does unless there's something special about it.
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October 9th, 2011 at 11:50:51 AM permalink
The shapes he's talking about are little items printed on the inlay label. The edge of the square and triangle are about 1.5mm.

Obviously I've noticed them too. I have no idea what the mean or how widespread their use is.
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October 9th, 2011 at 12:22:42 PM permalink
Almost a year ago, I started a thread here on the topic of chip manufacturers' logos. That thread was inspired by an earlier post that linked to a copy of Nevada gaming regulations regarding chips. Those regs stated, "The manufacturer’s name or a distinctive logo or other mark identifying the manufacturer must be inscribed on at least one side of each chip and token." I started that thread because I have never seen the chip manufacturer's name on any chips in play, and there are many chips I have seen for which a manufacturer's logo is not evident. None of the posts seemed to answer the question I asked then.

My chip collection includes only $1 chips, and I do not see the shapes that you describe anywhere on my Pennsylvania or New Jersey chips. Maybe they are logos of some kind as discussed last year, but I don't see them on the chips I have in my possession. Do you know whether the marks you see are on the $1 chips? If so, please describe exactly where they are located on chips from a casino or two, and I will look more closely.
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October 9th, 2011 at 6:02:09 PM permalink
I have a large collection of $1 and $5 chips, mostly from NJ. I checked before posting above, and didn't see the marks.

Then again, the original poster mentioned $25 and $100 chips.

That they might be a manufacturer's mark makes sense, although why they aren't on low value chips would be a mystery.
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October 9th, 2011 at 6:23:11 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I have a large collection of $1 and $5 chips, mostly from NJ. I checked before posting above, and didn't see the marks.

Then again, the original poster mentioned $25 and $100 chips.

That they might be a manufacturer's mark makes sense, although why they aren't on low value chips would be a mystery.



The $1, $2.50, $5, and $20 cheques must have 1 anti-counterfeit measure as part of the design. Anything $25 and up must have 2. Perhaps these queer marks are part of their anti-counterfeit design.

Edit: and by anti-counterfeit, I mean specifically a visual design on the outside, possibly such as these asterisks and stars. As for your question, Doc, our policy reads "the Corporation", as in the casino, must have the logo displayed on at least one side, not the manufacturer of said cheques. I also have never seen a manufacturer stamp on a gaming cheque. Of course I'm not Nevada...
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October 9th, 2011 at 6:39:04 PM permalink
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I also have never seen a manufacturer stamp on a gaming cheque.

Have you ever seen the Top Hat and Cane design in the edge? That's a manufacturer's mark. I believe it's a Paulson mark.
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October 9th, 2011 at 6:46:16 PM permalink
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Have you ever seen the Top Hat and Cane design in the edge? That's a manufacturer's mark. I believe it's a Paulson mark.



I have not. Maybe Doc can look and see if it answers his question. I've actually never looked for marks other than the little number that says how much money I have ;). I was just hoping to help the OP with his weird stars and hearts, or whatever they were =)
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October 9th, 2011 at 6:47:26 PM permalink
That is correct, DJ, but (unlike what the Nevada regs seem to suggest) the chips/checks in play do not say "Paulson" anywhere. Sample chips frequently do have a manufacturer's name in place of a casino name, I think.

Edit: Of my Atlantic City $1 chips, the ones from Golden Nugget and Resorts have the Paulson top hat and cane. It's molded into the outside ring on each side.
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