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May 14th, 2019 at 4:58:06 AM permalink
Hello!
Tell me please, is the USA in table-card games with one deck, casino use shuffle machines, or the croupier shuffle cards with hands?

If there are places where a shuffle makes a croupier, maybe someone can send a video how to look shuffle and shuffle procedures? How many riffles, how many strips, cutting, can a gambler cut a deck with a cutting card?

I will be grateful who will respond
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May 14th, 2019 at 6:16:02 AM permalink
Quote: Dobrij

Hello!
Tell me please, is the USA in table-card games with one deck, casino use shuffle machines, or the croupier shuffle cards with hands?

If there are places where a shuffle makes a croupier, maybe someone can send a video how to look shuffle and shuffle procedures? How many riffles, how many strips, cutting, can a gambler cut a deck with a cutting card?

I will be grateful who will respond



In my experience, most US casinos now use a shuffler machine for single-deck games.

Those few that hand-shuffle usually do riffle-riffle-strip-riffle-cut for a single deck. Similar for double deck.

For more decks, they split the pile into 2, draw from each side in 1/2 deck handfuls, riffle once or twice thru the pile, strip once, offer a cut or load the shoe.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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May 14th, 2019 at 6:26:07 AM permalink
Hi Dobrij,

BBB is correct. I'd say majority of the decks are shuffled via machine. There are only a few hand-shuffled single deck games in the US. Before you use any more energy, I'd like to highlight that more than 95% of the single-deck in America pays 6:5 on blackjack. Games that pay 3:2 is rare and some come with additional rules that do not help like (No doubles after split, only double on 10 or 11, and etc.). You may want to see if it's worthwhile to put in the work before doing the research due to the lack of 3:2 single-deck games out here.
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May 14th, 2019 at 9:53:05 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

In my experience, most US casinos now use a shuffler machine for single-deck games.

Those few that hand-shuffle usually do riffle-riffle-strip-riffle-cut for a single deck. Similar for double deck.

For more decks, they split the pile into 2, draw from each side in 1/2 deck handfuls, riffle once or twice thru the pile, strip once, offer a cut or load the shoe.




I've seen a dozen different styles of hand-shuffling six decks. The FIRST thing most of them do, after they split the deck in two, is turn one half around, end to end. I would call it the "Ivey Turn", lol.

What little I've seen of Reno in my only trip there last year, is what I first thought of when I read this thread. Pretty limited topic the OP offered. (obviously from another country)
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May 14th, 2019 at 10:22:44 AM permalink
Thanks to those who responded!

If 1 or 2 decks use only 3 riffles, this is interesting. And at what rates you can play where hands shuffle the cards?
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May 15th, 2019 at 2:08:33 AM permalink
OK, can someone please send a video of the manual shuffling of one or two decks?
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May 15th, 2019 at 2:33:18 PM permalink
We hand shuffle single deck games at my property.
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May 15th, 2019 at 2:55:30 PM permalink
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OK, can someone please send a video of the manual shuffling of one or two decks?



Are Google and YouTube not working for you?
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May 17th, 2019 at 3:21:52 PM permalink
Mrs/Ms: FCBLComish & SM77

- that what You write is has no value for this forum thread

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May 17th, 2019 at 3:36:46 PM permalink
Quote: Dobrij

Mrs/Ms: FCBLComish & SM77

- that what You write is has no value for this forum thread

¯\_(ツ)_/¯



Go shuffle your own decks.
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May 17th, 2019 at 9:32:55 PM permalink
Quote: Dobrij

Mrs/Ms: FCBLComish & SM77

- that what You write is has no value for this forum thread

¯\_(ツ)_/¯



What other information do you want? I am not going to video the shuffle.
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May 21st, 2019 at 2:30:37 AM permalink
We must see the card shuffle algorithm. This offer is for those who are engaged in games seriously, and wants to get a new experience.

Losers, theorists, spammers, as some in this forum, there is no interest, they can continue to do anything : )
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May 21st, 2019 at 3:23:38 AM permalink
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We must see the card shuffle algorithm. This offer is for those who are engaged in games seriously, and wants to get a new experience.

Losers, theorists, spammers, as some in this forum, there is no interest, they can continue to do anything : )



You can stop insulting the members of this forum with whom you don't agree now. That's twice. I've been giving you a little room because it's obvious English is not your first language, but this is your WARNING. We don't call each other losers, spammers, or other names within the discussion.
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May 21st, 2019 at 5:21:07 AM permalink
Quote: Dobrij

We must see the card shuffle algorithm. This offer is for those who are engaged in games seriously, and wants to get a new experience.

Losers, theorists, spammers, as some in this forum, there is no interest, they can continue to do anything : )



Get in line. I’ll be the first to find it and unlike when I first got here I won’t be telling anyone what I think I know. Not even you muhuhuhuhhahaha
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May 21st, 2019 at 8:14:16 AM permalink
Video:

Go to https://www.vegas-aces.com/

It’s an online / free dealer school. There you’ll find all sorts of dealer training videos, including basic stuff like how to shuffle.


Cut:

My experience is, regardless of the number of decks, a player always cuts the cards.

But that’s only BlackJack.

I *think* Baccarat is the only other game where players cut the cards. But I think that’s only the big, dog-bone table game.
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May 21st, 2019 at 8:32:25 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

You can stop insulting the members of this forum with whom you don't agree now. That's twice. I've been giving you a little room because it's obvious English is not your first language, but this is your WARNING. We don't call each other losers, spammers, or other names within the discussion.



I do not want to insult anyone. I started this topic with a specific question, if people don’t have anything to say, they just write jokes, isn’t this an insult to the topic starter?
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May 21st, 2019 at 8:34:12 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Video:

Go to https://www.vegas-aces.com/

It’s an online / free dealer school. There you’ll find all sorts of dealer training videos, including basic stuff like how to shuffle.


Cut:

My experience is, regardless of the number of decks, a player always cuts the cards.

But that’s only BlackJack.

I *think* Baccarat is the only other game where players cut the cards. But I think that’s only the big, dog-bone table game.


Thank! I will get to know this. In principle, I am interested in the algorithm and sequence of rifle and strip
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May 21st, 2019 at 9:00:19 AM permalink
Quote: Dobrij

Thank! I will get to know this. In principle, I am interested in the algorithm and sequence of rifle and strip



from what i understand which isnt much, the algoithms mimic the functions of a real shuffle.

you start with two piles of cards

an algorithm would take one card from the bottom of one pile, then take one card from the other pile and place that card along with the first card into your "shuffled pile" which should be the only pile left after repeating the step

repeat 7 times
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May 21st, 2019 at 1:49:28 PM permalink
aha... hmm..
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May 21st, 2019 at 5:15:21 PM permalink
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aha... hmm..
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you know you got me a thinkin'

and i wanted to clarify what i know at least improve on it. what i told you was probably true at one point but i had to find the source of where I had read it from in order to further help everyone understand me and where I get some of my "information" from.

all i have to say is thank god for web archives

from SIAM News, Volume 36, Number 1, January/February 2003
Within Every Math Problem, For this Mathematician,
Lurks a Card-Shuffling Problem
By Erica Klarreich

https://web.archive.org/web/20160303201344/http://www.siam.org/pdf/news/295.pdf
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May 22nd, 2019 at 12:36:57 AM permalink
Understood, I read the article, ok

We have already passed this step, and at the moment we are testing our shuffle-tracking program for one deck. It became very interesting how to shuffle the cards in the US, and therefore created this topic

By the way, in the USA they use the shuffle machine "Shuffle Master - one to six"?
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May 22nd, 2019 at 5:04:44 AM permalink
Am I supposed to ask you where to send my money for your shuffle tracking program because that was a hell of an advertisement I was truly engaged like I was really there and I could touch it
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May 22nd, 2019 at 8:01:14 AM permalink
Quote: Dobrij

Understood, I read the article, ok

We have already passed this step, and at the moment we are testing our shuffle-tracking program for one deck. It became very interesting how to shuffle the cards in the US, and therefore created this topic

By the way, in the USA they use the shuffle machine "Shuffle Master - one to six"?



Some do. Some use other shufflers.
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