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October 6th, 2017 at 9:58:57 AM permalink


Casino Hold'em® Flop Three Poker™: Math Analysed by Michael Shackleford (Wizard of Odds) ©2007.

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The First Three-Card Hold'em-Poker™ (Casino Hold'em® Flop Three Poker™) was Invented by Stephen Au-Yeung ©2007.

Rules:
1. A single 52-card deck is used.

2. The order of hands is shown in Table-1. If both player and dealer have the same ranking hand then the individual cards will be used to determine the higher hand.

3. Play begins with the player making an ante wager, plus optional side bet.

4. Each player and the dealer will receive two cards face down. The dealer will also deal one community card face up. The player may look at his own two cards but may not exchange information with other players.

5. The player has the choice to fold or make a raise bet. The raise bet must be two times the ante bet. If the player folds he will lose his ante bet and his cards will be collected.

6. The dealer will deal two more community cards, for a total of three...(link redacted)

*Today Stephen have a few 3-card Poker-games.

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October 6th, 2017 at 10:17:13 AM permalink
This is getting a little ridiculous.


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October 6th, 2017 at 2:34:18 PM permalink
Hi Forum Members,

There will be more MATH BY WOO to come yet.

If for any reason you don't like me or like to read MATH BY WOO.

Please don't click on the link or any of my post, much appreciated.
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October 6th, 2017 at 4:55:53 PM permalink
Dear Spammers,

Nobody likes constant spamming, including pretending the subject is about Woo, when it's really an advertisement for your own benefit. When the subject is Math by WoO, it might be something I want to see. If the subject were truthful in what the post is really about, I might not click on it.

Last time it was disguised as top 3 Table Games Inventors or something like that.


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October 6th, 2017 at 11:45:36 PM permalink
P.S. If there is any complaint regarding my post, please report it to the OWNER of this FORUM and not take it to me, as I don't have time to argue.

If there is any issue, I would like to hear it from the OWNER of this FORUM and not from any member of this forum.

Thanks you very much, Stephen.
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October 7th, 2017 at 2:32:04 PM permalink
oops!
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October 7th, 2017 at 4:48:18 PM permalink
All,

Stephen has had permission for many years to make these kinds of posts. Not sure of the terms, but I believe they are still in effect.
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October 7th, 2017 at 6:44:55 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

All,

Stephen has had permission for many years to make these kinds of posts. Not sure of the terms, but I believe they are still in effect.



Whoops. I notice at the end of the Math Report (pdf file) posted by Stephen:
  • Mike Shackleford's home address
  • Mike Shackleford's phone number
  • Mike Shackleford's email address


LOL. Nice to hear that "Stephen has had permission for many years to make these kinds of posts."
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October 7th, 2017 at 8:28:55 PM permalink
Sorry for the late arrival. Per the rule against posting of personal information about other forum members, I felt justified in removing the link to my math report. If MrCasinoGames wishes to re-post with the personal information on the last page redacted, I won't have a problem with leaving it up.

Normally, as an admin, I hate to edit other member's post, but believe this one was justified. Still, I will accept any punishment another admin feels is fair.
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October 7th, 2017 at 9:31:02 PM permalink
Nope. I think the removal was fully justified, given that you couldn't redact the page of personal/professional info from the pdf.

Would have done it myself, but still bear the scars from removing a picture of me 3 years ago. Lol....actually, I think it was your call, and yours alone.
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October 7th, 2017 at 10:13:44 PM permalink
Isn't the punishment supposed to be for the person that discloses personal information?? Not the Mod that fixes it.


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October 7th, 2017 at 10:17:55 PM permalink
Oh and the link is still toward he bottom of his original poat.


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October 7th, 2017 at 11:56:37 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

All,

Stephen has had permission for many years to make these kinds of posts. Not sure of the terms, but I believe they are still in effect.


Thanks beachbumbabs.
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October 8th, 2017 at 7:52:52 AM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Oh and the link is still toward he bottom of his original poat.


ZCore13



Got it, thanks zcore. Good catch.
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October 8th, 2017 at 8:30:37 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Sorry for the late arrival. Per the rule against posting of personal information about other forum members, I felt justified in removing the link to my math report. If MrCasinoGames wishes to re-post with the personal information on the last page redacted, I won't have a problem with leaving it up.

Normally, as an admin, I hate to edit other member's post, but believe this one was justified. Still, I will accept any punishment another admin feels is fair.


FYI there's other reports of your's (indirectly) posted publicly with the same info, PM me if you want the link
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October 8th, 2017 at 8:47:08 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Nope. I think the removal was fully justified, given that you couldn't redact the page of personal/professional info from the pdf.



Thank you for your support on this.
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October 8th, 2017 at 6:30:10 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

If MrCasinoGames wishes to re-post with information on the last page redacted, I won't have a problem with leaving it up.



Thanks Wizard.
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October 9th, 2017 at 7:10:48 AM permalink
Quote: gordonm888


LOL. Nice to hear that "Stephen has had permission for many years to make these kinds of posts."


Thanks gordonm888.

There will be more MATH BY WoO to come in this Forum (I have been using WoO to do Math Analysed since 2000) My very first game Casino Hold'em® was Analysed by him.

Here is the Full Rules, for The First Three-Card Hold'em-Poker™. Invented by Stephen Au-Yeung ©2007.
Math Analysed by Michael Shackleford (Wizard of Odds).

1. A single 52-card deck is used. All cards are ranked as in poker.

2. The order of hands is shown in table 1. If both player and dealer have the same ranking hand then the individual cards will be used to determine the higher hand.

3. Play begins with the player making an ante wager, plus optional side bet.

4. Each player and the dealer will receive two cards face down. The dealer will also deal one community card face up. The player may look at his own two cards but may not exchange information with other players.

5. The player has the choice to fold or make a raise bet. The raise bet must be two times the ante bet. If the player folds he will lose his ante bet and his cards will be collected.

6. The dealer will deal two more community cards, for a total of three.

7. Both player and dealer will make the best three card poker hand using any combination of his own two cards and the three community cards.

8. The dealer needs a pair of sevens or higher to qualify.

9. If the dealer does not qualify, then the ante bet will pay according to one of the pays table in table 2, according to the preference of casino management, and the raise will push.

10. If the dealer qualifies and the player beats the dealer then the ante bet will pay according to the pay table in table 2, and the raise will pay 1 to 1.

11. If the dealer qualifies and the dealer beats the player then the ante and raise bets will lose.

12. If the dealer qualifies and the player and dealer tie then the ante and raise will push.

13. The side bet will pay according only to the player’s hand. Five possible pay tables for the side bet are shown in table 3.
Last edited by: MrCasinoGames on Oct 9, 2017
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October 9th, 2017 at 8:00:44 AM permalink
I don't have too much beef... just trying to understand. Babs, when you said "he's had permission to post stuff like this"... were you insinuating that he has some kind of arrangement with WoV to post advertisements for his stuff to the community?

I too clicked this thread only because it said "MATH BY WOO" so I thought it had something to do with the Odds site. I don't wish to be part of a "clever click bait" title for a separate advertisement.
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October 9th, 2017 at 8:22:02 AM permalink
Quote: Romes

I don't have too much beef... just trying to understand. Babs, when you said "he's had permission to post stuff like this"... were you insinuating that he has some kind of arrangement with WoV to post advertisements for his stuff to the community?

I too clicked this thread only because it said "MATH BY WOO" so I thought it had something to do with the Odds site. I don't wish to be part of a "clever click bait" title for a separate advertisement.



Exactly. And he probably had permission at one point to advertise his game, but I doubt the permission was meant to be to spam his games constantly. Just like his last post nobody asked for the rules from his game from 17 years ago, but he continually does that kind of thing.


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