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gr8player
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September 14th, 2013 at 7:44:20 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

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An absolutely uncalled for shot at me, personally. I'd prefer to think of you as better than that, AxelWolf.

And in the same post you reference my reluctance to reveal my play here in this forum.....

....for whose benefit, exactly? Yours, Egalite's, EvenBob's, Beethoven9th's, whose exactly?

By what reasoning would I want to placate those that:

A.) never could be placated...
and
B.) I've no inclination to satisfy neither their needs nor their curiousity.

Make no mistake of it, AxelWolf, I could post The Grail in this very forum if I so desired.

Alas, I do not.

And don't ask me why not....better to ask yourself and your "friends".
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September 14th, 2013 at 7:47:05 AM permalink
Good question, AxelWolf, good question.

I am, most probably, "barking up the wrong tree" in posting my Baccarat theories/plays within this forum.

As to this nonsensical "challenge"....that's all it is and all it ever could be...nonsense. My winning or losing a shoe or two will prove nothing, but would reveal much. Too much, IMHO.
**Read the entire CHALLENGE 1) he wont revile your system if you don't want him to,he won't play it, he will only verify it, he will sigh a contract saying so.**

***2) It's not done over Just one shoe or 1 session. Your playing anyway why not make an extra 30k doing so?***
>>>So Now whats your excuse?<<<

I doubt anyone could figure out your system, from what I gathered you you don't use anything but hunches or what you believe are trends. You may use
self discipline, so not to go crazy and start betting big if your losing. I believe you bet small when your losing and start betting more when your winning.
So when your losing, you lose less and when you winning bet more. If your winning, I guess betting more don't affect you as much since your betting won money. If you go on a winning streak you probably stop when your up a predetermined amount or unit. When you betting small you don't lose as much.

ONCE AGAIN WHY NOT TAKE THE "CHALLENGE" all Your concerns are covered.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
gr8player
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September 14th, 2013 at 7:53:06 AM permalink
Quote: wroberson

Basic strategy is one of those things where when we are learning, we go slow, but after 50-60 times it becomes a subconscious habit. I no longer have to think about how the hand(s) show be played. Getting up from the table a winner I doubt would ever become a subconscious action. We always want to win as much as we can. For some we want it all at once and for others we will take it slowly and over time.

I've been incredibly lucky.



Lucky, wroberson? Lotto winners are lucky, my friend.

Consistent, long term success at the Baccarat tables requires so much more than any luck could ever carry you.

You stated: "I no longer have to think about how the hand(s) should be played." So true. And so important.

When you get your game to the point where you can actually "detach yourself" from the decisions, it takes all of the "suspense" out of the game, as well as any unnecessary strain or stress. Every move, every adjustment, every decision I make, has absolutely NOTHING to do with the "turn-of-the-cards". You see, that I can never control, for they will fall as they will. But I can control my responses, my play, my adjustments...MY GAME.

I wish you continued success, my friend.
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September 14th, 2013 at 8:19:18 AM permalink
Quote: gr8player

An absolutely uncalled for shot at me, personally. I'd prefer to think of you as better than that, AxelWolf.

And in the same post you reference my reluctance to reveal my play here in this forum.....

....for whose benefit, exactly? Yours, Egalite's, EvenBob's, Beethoven9th's, whose exactly?

By what reasoning would I want to placate those that:

A.) never could be placated...
and
B.) I've no inclination to satisfy neither their needs nor their curiousity.

Make no mistake of it, AxelWolf, I could post The Grail in this very forum if I so desired.

Alas, I do not.

And don't ask my why not....better to ask yourself and your "friends".

Everybody knows I am terrible at spelling, punctuation and typographical errors It is not a big deal.If It were on purpose one should probably expect some sort of dig when naming yourself such an egotistical name such as GR8PLAYER. Certainly You should be able to take a joke with a name like that.

Please don't assume that Egalite, EvenBob and Beethoven9th are all my friends. I believe I have disagreed with all of them at one time or another, especially BOB, I think he is as crazy, as you sound. I can only imagine you believe we are all in cahoots with each other, sending secret emails back and forth just to gang up on you, in hopes you will revile your secret winning system. We all gang up on you simply because you indicate you can do the impossible. You have absolutely nothing other then creative words.

IF I named myself Superman and claimed I was one of the strongest men in the world you would want some kind of proof.

Why dose anyone care? Because its annoying and it possibly may inspire some daddy of four to lose all of his kids collage funds, chasing an impossible dream.

We don't want your system. We just want you to some how prove you can win money with it.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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September 14th, 2013 at 8:30:18 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Everybody knows I am terrible at spelling, punctuation and typographical errors It is not a big deal.... in hopes you will revile your secret winning system....



Axel,

I am just learning to read your posts out loud...can't resist a gentle tease about the above. Freudian slip? revile vs. reveal...lmao within the context of the argument with gr8.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
gr8player
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September 14th, 2013 at 8:40:42 AM permalink
My moniker, "gr8player", has nothing to do with ego; rather, the natural 8 is my favorite hand. It always seems to appear at the most opportune times for me. Probably "selective memory" at play, but that's the reason for the "8" in my screen name, nonetheless.

"You have absolutely nothing other then creative words."

So I'm full of baloney because I've decent command of the English language? Is that what you're going with, AxelWolf?

"...it possibly may inspire some daddy of four to lose..."

I wish no such thing, and I've always sought to dishearten those that thought they might've been ready for real casino play when it appeared to me as though they weren't. And I've always maintained that everything I do at the Baccarat tables is rather difficult and hard work.

And I post exclusively at gaming websites, where one would expect a certain "type of readership", if you will.

And, lastly, "We don't want your system."

Oh, don't fool yourself AxelWolf, yes you do.

(Sidenote: I despise that word: "system"...I play no mechanical system, rather I have a "mode of play" for the long term.)
gr8player
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September 14th, 2013 at 8:57:00 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Axel,

I am just learning to read your posts out loud...can't resist a gentle tease about the above. Freudian slip? revile vs. reveal...lmao within the context of the argument with gr8.



Hello, beachbumbabs.

Yeah, good catch. He thinks he's fooling someone when, in reality, he's fooling no one. He knows exactly what he's doing and what he's posting.

Apparently, beachbumbabs, so do you. Thanks for taking the time to post your opinion. Stay well, my friend.
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September 14th, 2013 at 9:05:49 AM permalink
Quote: gr8player



And, lastly, "We don't want your system."

Oh, don't fool yourself AxelWolf, yes you do.

(Sidenote: I despise that word: "system"...I play no mechanical system, rather I have a "mode of play" for the long term.)



I think you're right, I do want your system. However, I only want your system if it is printed on some double-roll two-ply toilet paper, because it can then at least serve a practical function for me.

Gr8Player, I'm not at the point where I am going to stop this yet, but I consider what is going on with this Baccarat system discussion repetitive and tedious.

The entirety of this, "Mode of Play," discussion, for a period of months, has been based upon nothing but hints and insinuations. You have been posting shadows, only shedding the occasional light on this, "Mode of play," and that light has not been very bright. Whatever this, "Mode of Play," it must fail in the long-run, mathematically. You know it, I know it, everybody here knows it.

I'm not opposed to systems for the sake of systems or enjoyment, either. I could give you a list of any games that I play for actual money or just for fun and I could give you what system(s) or strategy(ies) I have used for those games. However, I don't delude myself, I can also mathematically explain why EVERY SINGLE ONE OF MY SYSTEMS AND STRATEGIES MUST FAIL!

Again, I've defended and upheld you with respect to the results you claim to have experienced with your system and will continue to do so. It's Variance, nothing more or less. Nothing can or will change the fact that every bet you make puts you closer to the long run, and any overall win you have experienced with your system becomes decreasingly probable, and you have always, and will always, have a greater probability of ensuring such a result by betting the total amount you have won thus far in one single bet.

Anyway, I'm going to ask that you desist with creating additional threads devoted to substantially the same subject matter for the time being until such time that you plan to divulge your entire system, with specificity, so that it can be adequately challenged, from a mathematical standpoint, and in a meaningful way. There are a number of threads you've created concerning this subject matter, and you are welcome to continue to post in any of those.
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AxelWolf
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September 14th, 2013 at 9:14:11 AM permalink
Quote: gr8player



And, lastly, "We don't want your system."

Oh, don't fool yourself AxelWolf, yes you do.

I DO? From what I understand you lost 250k with some bunk method already.

I have said this many times, if you had some gr8 system you would not be posting about it on a message board filled with haters.
You would be out playing it and enjoying the spoils. Why do you care what we think? Why even talk to us about your system? If you want to talk about baccarat there are many more friendly venues to do so. Get a team together go play baccarat and win money. afterwards you can have hours of discussion with believers. You will be a god in there eyes.

AGAIN WHY NOT TAKE THE CHALLENGE? all your concerns were covered.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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September 14th, 2013 at 9:26:14 AM permalink
I have some experience with gamblers who can predict the future, at least one anyway. His name escapes me but he was a psychic with a nationally syndicated radio show. He used to show up at the Reno Hilton during the World Poker Challenge. He played in the 10-20 and 20-40 Omaha Hi-Lo games. We all wanted his action. For all his psychic ability he was the worst Omaha player in the world and ran through thousands of dollars. He never had to play in a short handed game. Every time he sat down the table would fill up. He turned US into psychics. When he sat down at the table we all knew we were in for some easy money.
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