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August 23rd, 2026 at 8:39:18 AM permalink
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One week from today college football starts. I am already anxious and sweaty.
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Go to our 2026 WOV Picks Game thread and signup for our college Picks games!! We won't have a 2026 college football Picks contest unless people ecxpress interest in it.
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August 23rd, 2026 at 11:01:24 AM permalink
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One week from today college football starts. I am already anxious and sweaty.
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Go to our 2026 WOV Picks Game thread and signup for our college Picks games!! We won't have a 2026 college football Picks contest unless people ecxpress interest in it.
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Thank you, but I am not interested in contests. I don't believe I have participated in one here at WOV in 15 years.
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August 24th, 2026 at 8:07:26 AM permalink
Got some N.C.A.A. offers. Need assistance from DRich. Who do you like week 0?
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August 24th, 2026 at 11:46:06 AM permalink
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Got some N.C.A.A. offers. Need assistance from DRich. Who do you like week 0?
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had to look this up

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College football's "Week 0" is an early opening slate of games played one week before the traditional Labor Day weekend start known as "Week 1".Why Week 0 ExistsThe Hawaii Rule: Teams playing a road game at the University of Hawaii get an extra game on their schedule to help offset high travel costs.Special Waivers: Teams playing overseas or wanting a national television spotlight before the main season begins can apply for special permission.Soft Launch: It gives fans a small appetizer of games while networks capture early high ratings.

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August 24th, 2026 at 11:53:30 AM permalink
I effed up my DK offer and bet too small of an amount due to screwing around with it. But I'll feel better after getting the usual result LOL

HR has a promo going where you get a $100 in bonus bets for betting $5! $20 instantly, even before first bet resolved*, and the rest one week at a time. I couldn't say no!

[possibly you have to bet another $5 each week, but it's not worded that way. I won't complain if that's the case]

* always reassuring, that way you know you just didn't miss fine print somewhere
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August 25th, 2026 at 12:05:21 AM permalink
Risking a large amount for a very small return can be reasonable mathematically, but only if the estimated probability is genuinely accurate. The problem is that rare outcomes are often underestimated, and one unexpected result can erase the profit from a long series of successful bets.
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August 25th, 2026 at 5:04:21 AM permalink
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Risking a large amount for a very small return can be reasonable mathematically, but only if the estimated probability is genuinely accurate. The problem is that rare outcomes are often underestimated, and one unexpected result can erase the profit from a long series of successful bets.
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give an example
I'm not sure what post you are replying or referring to
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August 25th, 2026 at 11:13:57 AM permalink
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Got some N.C.A.A. offers. Need assistance from DRich. Who do you like week 0?
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I have small bets on TCU and UNLV. You may want to bet against as I have lost the last two years. I don't bet much the first couple of weeks until I have seen the teams play.
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August 29th, 2026 at 12:28:45 PM permalink
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Got some N.C.A.A. offers. Need assistance from DRich. Who do you like week 0?
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I have small bets on TCU and UNLV. You may want to bet against as I have lost the last two years. I don't bet much the first couple of weeks until I have seen the teams play.
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My 2026 college football betting has started in a losing manner. I am now 0-1 as TCU was beaten by NC.
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August 29th, 2026 at 1:30:12 PM permalink
I rarely watch college ball but watched the UNC/TCU game ... the wife has taken an interest in the Bellichick saga, that's a huge factor.

And put money on the game too. 3 leg parlay with a big boost .... hit on 2 legs and guess which leg lost?

Frogs looked poorly coached.
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September 1st, 2026 at 6:56:52 AM permalink
FanDuel finally has started a ‘loyalty program’ where you earn ‘points’ for your bets. Not sure what value I’ll get out of it, but I’m guessing it will add some +EV to my bets with them.

Lots of good offers last few days from my 4 active accounts. Plus a bunch of them are available up to $100, many others $50. Example today is team A at +125, boosted to +163. Other site was -128. Not hard to make $$ at + 163 and -128. With my limit I either make $6 or $12 depending on result. Plus get 140 points on FD. Getting 3 or 4 similar offers a day. Not bad for pushing a few buttons.
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September 2nd, 2026 at 5:24:26 AM permalink
Don't skip DK today. Mucho +EV going on but if I understand offers appear for a bit and then go away
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September 5th, 2026 at 7:52:24 AM permalink
There is a bet today that hits one of my biggest triggers.

Ball State + 50.5 Over/Under 56.5

It is incredibly rare to see a total that is only 6 points off of the spread. Normally, this would be a 100% big bet for me on any random game. I would be on the Over. Not this game because because I believe OSU will being showing very little and playing lots of second, third, and fourth string players in the second half. They play Texas next week and will be keeping a lot of the offense under wraps.

I am not saying to not bet it, it is probably still objectively a positive bet on the Over. I am just not smart enough to pull the trigger. I would guess if I see anymore games where the total is only 6 points over the line that I will be betting them big.
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September 5th, 2026 at 9:40:55 AM permalink
I've been keeping an eye out for this sort of thing ever since you mentioned it last year. I think especially the first week or two, it's something close to a fair bet if not +EV when a large spread is close to the total ... a matter of the underdog scoring at all sometimes putting it over. I'm ahead betting it and for me doesn't need to be as close as 6 pts though I don't have an exact rule to go by

so you get full credit

PS I don't bet a lot though when +EV is not more certain
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September 5th, 2026 at 10:22:12 AM permalink
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I've been keeping an eye out for this sort of thing ever since you mentioned it last year. I think especially the first week or two, it's something close to a fair bet if not +EV when a large spread is close to the total ... a matter of the underdog scoring at all sometimes putting it over. I'm ahead betting it and for me doesn't need to be as close as 6 pts though I don't have an exact rule to go by

so you get full credit

PS I don't bet a lot though when +EV is not more certain
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I agree, 6 points is not a hard rule. Honestly that might be the closest spread that I have ever seen to the total. Anything under 10 is probably a +EV bet and I begin to start looking at them lower than 16.
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September 5th, 2026 at 3:50:32 PM permalink
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There is a bet today that hits one of my biggest triggers.

Ball State + 50.5 Over/Under 56.5

It is incredibly rare to see a total that is only 6 points off of the spread. Normally, this would be a 100% big bet for me on any random game. I would be on the Over. Not this game because because I believe OSU will being showing very little and playing lots of second, third, and fourth string players in the second half. They play Texas next week and will be keeping a lot of the offense under wraps.

I am not saying to not bet it, it is probably still objectively a positive bet on the Over. I am just not smart enough to pull the trigger. I would guess if I see anymore games where the total is only 6 points over the line that I will be betting them big.
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I guess I need to quit over analyzing and just go with a system that has proved very profitable for me.

Ohio State 56 Ball St 3
Over 56.5 is a winner.
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September 5th, 2026 at 8:38:39 PM permalink
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Quote: DRich

There is a bet today that hits one of my biggest triggers.

Ball State + 50.5 Over/Under 56.5

It is incredibly rare to see a total that is only 6 points off of the spread. Normally, this would be a 100% big bet for me on any random game. I would be on the Over. Not this game because because I believe OSU will being showing very little and playing lots of second, third, and fourth string players in the second half. They play Texas next week and will be keeping a lot of the offense under wraps.

I am not saying to not bet it, it is probably still objectively a positive bet on the Over. I am just not smart enough to pull the trigger. I would guess if I see anymore games where the total is only 6 points over the line that I will be betting them big.
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I guess I need to quit over analyzing and just go with a system that has proved very profitable for me.

Ohio State 56 Ball St 3
Over 56.5 is a winner.
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There's some Caesars locations that offer 7 times rewards credits three days a week. This has left me with a dumb amount of rewards credits to use on your spread v total idea.

Last football season you posted about it so I identified around a half dozen or so games in week 1 that fit those parameters. The following games' totals were all within 10 points of the spread: OU/UTEP, OSU/Ball, Minn/EIU, MU/UAPB, UGA/TNST, VT/VMI, ASU/Morg and BYU/UT. Results: Every. Single. Bet. Won.
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September 6th, 2026 at 4:47:27 AM permalink
maybe we gotta quit talking about it ha ha
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September 6th, 2026 at 5:42:36 AM permalink
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maybe we gotta quit talking about it ha ha
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Why? If the books change the lines there will be opportunities on the new lines assuming fair markets.
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September 6th, 2026 at 6:10:14 AM permalink
next year take the unders!
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September 6th, 2026 at 7:30:44 AM permalink
The total in the Georgia game actually moved down by 1.5-2 points a few days prior to kickoff. As a disciple of the Drich Delta, I simply bet into it again
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September 6th, 2026 at 8:51:10 AM permalink
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I liked DRich's thing on betting the overs
I wondered if the under would be a good bet if the spread was smallish
I tracked every game from week 1 so far that had a spread of 7.5 or less
I didn't consider the no. on the over
the unders won 11-4
maybe or probably just luck
I will keep tracking
today, still week 1, it would be Lou/Miss - spread 6.5 picking the under of 55__________SMU/FSU spread 2.5 picking the under of 53

I will keep tracking until I'm convinced of whether it's worthwhile or not

the totals seem to me to be very high in college games - most of them are over 50

edit - not worth anything - I went back over 2025 some 60 games and betting the under (total) when the spread was small and there was no edge to be had


https://www.covers.com/sports/ncaaf/matchups

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September 6th, 2026 at 9:20:26 AM permalink
neither scheme can be as easy to pull off as it is seeming right now

I'm sticking to the idea it's close to a fair bet and perhaps slightly +EV in the first week of NCAA ball since less is known about the teams. I'm not so sure you can't say that if just betting all the underdogs on the moneyline the first week or so

it's indisputable that it has been fun
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September 6th, 2026 at 9:54:44 AM permalink
deleted - system idea didn't work out
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September 6th, 2026 at 11:11:23 AM permalink
okay - I'm still tryin'_____________:}
tried something new - every game week 1 - I parlayed the favorite with the over and the underdog with the under
I came up with 57 wins (yes I will subtract the loss on the other side) and 35 losses on both sides (there were 2 pushes)
based on $100 bets - the 35 losses on both sides equals a loss ot $7,000
the 57 wins gives a profit of $264.46 minus the $100 lost on the other side that was lost means there was an actual profit of $164.46
the total profit when there was a win on one of the 2 sides was $9,374.22 (57*$164.46)
the net profit was $2,374.22
the total wagered was $9,200
a little over 25% profit
just luck_______?_________maybe - idk - I'm going to go back to 2025 and do week 1 and see what happens
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I did week 1 of the 2025/26 season and got a small win of about 4% with the parlays going 54-42
then I did week 2 which was specatacular - 58-25 - 54% profit


but after all this there is bad news which means I'm done
searching indicates sportsbook reduce the odds and payouts on correlated parlays which is what these parlays are
I didn't think about that when I started doing this - that's the way the ball bounces ___________________-:(

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September 6th, 2026 at 5:00:54 PM permalink
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I liked DRich's thing on betting the overs
I wondered if the under would be a good bet if the spread was smallish
I tracked every game from week 1 so far that had a spread of 7.5 or less
I didn't consider the no. on the over
the unders won 11-4
maybe or probably just luck
I will keep tracking
today, still week 1, it would be Lou/Miss - spread 6.5 picking the under of 55__________SMU/FSU spread 2.5 picking the under of 53

I will keep tracking until I'm convinced of whether it's worthwhile or not

the totals seem to me to be very high in college games - most of them are over 50

edit - not worth anything - I went back over 2025 some 60 games and betting the under (total) when the spread was small and there was no edge to be had


https://www.covers.com/sports/ncaaf/matchups

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I don't like that concept at all.
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September 7th, 2026 at 9:02:06 AM permalink
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I like Kendrick Raphael over 64.5 yards -114

this is an expert pick from covers.com

this is what the expert posted:

"Raphael is a proven workhorse who handled 266 touches for 1,188 yards and 14 scores a year ago, and SMU doesn't return a single rusher who reached 100 yards a year ago. He should get a ton of work in this contest behind an experienced SMU offensive line (91 career starts) with an advantage over FSU's front (120th in stuff rate)."

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September 7th, 2026 at 11:43:49 AM permalink
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I like Kendrick Raphael over 64.5 yards -114

this is an expert pick from covers.com

this is what the expert posted:

"Raphael is a proven workhorse who handled 266 touches for 1,188 yards and 14 scores a year ago, and SMU doesn't return a single rusher who reached 100 yards a year ago. He should get a ton of work in this contest behind an experienced SMU offensive line (91 career starts) with an advantage over FSU's front (120th in stuff rate)."

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Good post. I won’t be making that bet…

(NY doesn’t allow player prop bets on college athletes).

PSA….. FanDuel giving free $25. Allowing you to get $25 on ‘any point score in Seahawks Patriots game’ at even money. I’d say EV is + $24.9999
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September 8th, 2026 at 6:26:46 AM permalink
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above pick won

Enrique Hernandez under 0.5 total hits +101

from covers.com -

"The leading projection system (THE BAT X) projects Hernandez in the 11th percentile when assessing his BABIP talent.. Hernandez is projected to bat 9th in the lineup in this game. Hernandez has been replaced by a pinch-hitter 51% of the time when starting against a southpaw this year.. The #10 venue in the majors for suppressing BABIP to RHB, per the leading projection system (THE BAT), is Dodger Stadium.. The Cincinnati Reds infield defense projects as the 2nd-best among every team in action today."

I tracked Hernandez - he has hit safely in only one of his last 5 games and 7 of his last 24

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