Sports betting chatter
June 5th, 2026 at 4:16:16 AM
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wow - I was quite surprised to see the Spurs again faves in game 2 by even more than in game 1
the books are expecting the Spurs to bounce back strongly
they are 5.5 point faves and are -230 on the moneyline - Knicks are +190
I don't bet sports anymore but if I did I would take the Knicks -
small bet on the moneyline and a much larger bet on the spread
it looks to me like the Knicks are definitely for real
I can't see betting against them
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wow - I was quite surprised to see the Spurs again faves in game 2 by even more than in game 1
the books are expecting the Spurs to bounce back strongly
they are 5.5 point faves and are -230 on the moneyline - Knicks are +190
I don't bet sports anymore but if I did I would take the Knicks -
small bet on the moneyline and a much larger bet on the spread
it looks to me like the Knicks are definitely for real
I can't see betting against them
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the foolish sayings of a rich man often pass for words of wisdom by the fools around him
June 5th, 2026 at 1:00:22 PM
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wow - I was quite surprised to see the Spurs again faves in game 2 by even more than in game 1
the books are expecting the Spurs to bounce back strongly
they are 5.5 point faves and are -230 on the moneyline - Knicks are +190
I don't bet sports anymore but if I did I would take the Knicks -
small bet on the moneyline and a much larger bet on the spread
it looks to me like the Knicks are definitely for real
I can't see betting against them
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It’s 6.5 now. Sadly, I agree with you. That means the Sharps will be loading up on the Spurs….. I got two ‘big’ bets down. Using boosts I win around $3 no matter what. But if game ends exactly with a Spurs 6 point win I win over $100.
I’m also getting +225 on both teams to score in first minute. It hits less than you think. But I’m pretty sure it’s +EV at +225.
June 5th, 2026 at 7:28:42 PM
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Quote: SOOPOOQuote: lilredrooster.
wow - I was quite surprised to see the Spurs again faves in game 2 by even more than in game 1
the books are expecting the Spurs to bounce back strongly
they are 5.5 point faves and are -230 on the moneyline - Knicks are +190
I don't bet sports anymore but if I did I would take the Knicks -
small bet on the moneyline and a much larger bet on the spread
it looks to me like the Knicks are definitely for real
I can't see betting against them
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It’s 6.5 now. Sadly, I agree with you. That means the Sharps will be loading up on the Spurs….. I got two ‘big’ bets down. Using boosts I win around $3 no matter what. But if game ends exactly with a Spurs 6 point win I win over $100.
I’m also getting +225 on both teams to score in first minute. It hits less than you think. But I’m pretty sure it’s +EV at +225.
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Good call on both teams scoring in the first minute.
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June 5th, 2026 at 8:31:16 PM
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Wow
Nicks won again
Nicks won again
June 6th, 2026 at 5:05:21 AM
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I would also take the Knicks - 2.5 on Monday night if I was a betting sports kind of guy
it looks like the Spurs are collapsing and disappointing
also, a small bet on the Knicks to sweep at +600
if that line is correct
the Knicks home crowd will be pumped up big time
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I would also take the Knicks - 2.5 on Monday night if I was a betting sports kind of guy
it looks like the Spurs are collapsing and disappointing
also, a small bet on the Knicks to sweep at +600
if that line is correct
the Knicks home crowd will be pumped up big time
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June 6th, 2026 at 5:05:31 AM
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June 6th, 2026 at 5:46:58 AM
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Quote: lilredrooster.
I would also take the Knicks - 2.5 on Monday night if I was a betting sports kind of guy
it looks like the Spurs are collapsing and disappointing
also, a small bet on the Knicks to sweep at +600
if that line is correct
the Knicks home crowd will be pumped up big time
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Did you watch the whole game yesterday? I saw nothing that made me believe the Spurs were collapsing. That 10 point comeback to take the lead with 3 minutes left was very encouraging for the Spurs.
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June 6th, 2026 at 5:54:21 AM
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Quote: DRichQuote: lilredrooster.
I would also take the Knicks - 2.5 on Monday night if I was a betting sports kind of guy
it looks like the Spurs are collapsing and disappointing
also, a small bet on the Knicks to sweep at +600
if that line is correct
the Knicks home crowd will be pumped up big time
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Did you watch the whole game yesterday? I saw nothing that made me believe the Spurs were collapsing. That 10 point comeback to take the lead with 3 minutes left was very encouraging for the Spurs.
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no, I didn't watch the whole game
you're right - collapsing was too strong a word
but they were 6.5 point faves I believe at gametime
surely they were disappointing
I am thinking that 2 straight losses on their home court when they were faves must be getting to their heads
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June 7th, 2026 at 11:16:57 AM
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Long post. Had $100 25% profit boost on site A, $10 30% profit boost on site B, both on golf. Sometimes the head to head odds vary enough that with a profit boost it’s easy to lock up free money. But yesterday…. Player C was +110, while on the other site Player D was -106. So I bet the $100 to win $137 on player C. And around $120 to win around $118 on player D on the other site (only first $10 was boosted). So that’s a free $17 or so for pushing buttons.
But of course, if both sites allowed ‘infinity’ as a max bet I could make ‘infinity’, as I was getting +110 but only laying -106.
Issues….
1. I can’t be sure that after I place the bet on Site A that the odds and amount I can bet on Site B won’t be changed
2. If I emptied my accounts on both sites, I’d need to re deposit into the losing site. And to make up for that withdraw from the other site. I try not to withdraw that often, as ‘I think’ that might have someone ‘look’ at my account.
3. It’s possible this is a waste of time, because if they tie all bets are voided. (The -106 guy won).
Anyway I just bet a few hundred more dollars to make just a few free dollars. I do think both sites consider both those bets as ‘regular-EV’ bets that help my status.
In other news…. Had Canes/over…. Oh well…
But of course, if both sites allowed ‘infinity’ as a max bet I could make ‘infinity’, as I was getting +110 but only laying -106.
Issues….
1. I can’t be sure that after I place the bet on Site A that the odds and amount I can bet on Site B won’t be changed
2. If I emptied my accounts on both sites, I’d need to re deposit into the losing site. And to make up for that withdraw from the other site. I try not to withdraw that often, as ‘I think’ that might have someone ‘look’ at my account.
3. It’s possible this is a waste of time, because if they tie all bets are voided. (The -106 guy won).
Anyway I just bet a few hundred more dollars to make just a few free dollars. I do think both sites consider both those bets as ‘regular-EV’ bets that help my status.
In other news…. Had Canes/over…. Oh well…
June 9th, 2026 at 7:11:03 AM
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The Carolina Hurricanes are a small favorite in Vegas tonight (-115). Personally, I would make the Knights the small favorite at -115. Not a big enough discrepancy for me to think it is worth a bet. I am surprised the Hurricanes have been a favorite in all four games. I would have made the Knights the small favorite in games 3 & 4.
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June 9th, 2026 at 9:07:26 AM
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Quote: DRichThe Carolina Hurricanes are a small favorite in Vegas tonight (-115). Personally, I would make the Knights the small favorite at -115. Not a big enough discrepancy for me to think it is worth a bet. I am surprised the Hurricanes have been a favorite in all four games. I would have made the Knights the small favorite in games 3 & 4.
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In context, the Golden knights are also ‘favorites’ at -105. Of course they are not favorites…. The fair line is about Carolina -105 /Vegas +105. I’d love Carolina -105. They are the (slightly) better team. And there has been no ‘home ice advantage’ this Stanley Cup season. Road 51 Home 40 I think! But this series has made the two teams look pretty equal.
June 9th, 2026 at 9:17:44 AM
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A state Judge has ruled that Brenden Sorsby, a QB from Texas Tech, must be allowed to play football even though he admitted to betting on Tech and making thousands of bets.
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June 9th, 2026 at 9:29:03 AM
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Quote: billryanA state Judge has ruled that Brenden Sorsby, a QB from Texas Tech, must be allowed to play football even though he admitted to betting on Tech and making thousands of bets.
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I think he made bets AGAINST Indiana when he was on their roster. To me, that is the big no-no that should result in a permanent ban. Regardless of contrition, rehabilitation, etc….
I’ll be fascinated to see if the NFL will allow him to enter their ranks. Cleveland probably will draft him!
June 9th, 2026 at 9:53:39 AM
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I read that he bet on his team, not against them, but it shouldn't matter. It looks like the SEC will not play any sports against Texas Tech if he is on the roster.
His attorneys claim his actions were a result of a gambling disorder that he's been treated for, and that he deserves a second chance.
His attorneys claim his actions were a result of a gambling disorder that he's been treated for, and that he deserves a second chance.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
June 9th, 2026 at 10:31:20 AM
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Quote: SOOPOOQuote: billryanA state Judge has ruled that Brenden Sorsby, a QB from Texas Tech, must be allowed to play football even though he admitted to betting on Tech and making thousands of bets.
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I think he made bets AGAINST Indiana when he was on their roster. To me, that is the big no-no that should result in a permanent ban. Regardless of contrition, rehabilitation, etc….
I’ll be fascinated to see if the NFL will allow him to enter their ranks. Cleveland probably will draft him!
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A horrible decision. I believe he bet on Indiana to win, he has not played for Tech yet. I believe the record shows he made over 1000 bets on sports, not just on his football team.
Clearly Pete Rose went in front of the wrong judges.
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June 9th, 2026 at 10:44:37 AM
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Quote: DRichQuote: SOOPOOQuote: billryanA state Judge has ruled that Brenden Sorsby, a QB from Texas Tech, must be allowed to play football even though he admitted to betting on Tech and making thousands of bets.
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I think he made bets AGAINST Indiana when he was on their roster. To me, that is the big no-no that should result in a permanent ban. Regardless of contrition, rehabilitation, etc….
I’ll be fascinated to see if the NFL will allow him to enter their ranks. Cleveland probably will draft him!
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A horrible decision. I believe he bet on Indiana to win, he has not played for Tech yet. I believe the record shows he made over 1000 bets on sports, not just on his football team.
Clearly Pete Rose went in front of the wrong judges.
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Rose got a TRO against baseball from suspending him in Ohio, but MLB succeeded in moving the case to federal court. Rose's lawyers worked out a deal where Rose would be suspended, and the case dropped. Rose always insisted he was promised the "lifetime ban"would eventually be lifted. Bart Giamatti died from a heart attack, and any secret deal died with him. Rose was allowed to reapply but never succeeded.
MLB tries to avoid the courts, as it rarely wins.
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June 9th, 2026 at 11:28:20 AM
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Quote: billryanI read that he bet on his team, not against them, but it shouldn't matter. It looks like the SEC will not play any sports against Texas Tech if he is on the roster.
His attorneys claim his actions were a result of a gambling disorder that he's been treated for, and that he deserves a second chance.
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I read that MOST of his bets were on his team, but SOME of his bets were against them.
I read it was the Big 10, not the SEC that will not play Texas Tech in any sport if he is on their roster TTU team.
A lot of bluster from the Big 10. I’ll bet ANY amount of $$ that if Michigan makes the Natty against TTU they don’t forfeit.
The ‘gambling disorder’ defense is complicated. I don’t think a drunk driver that clearly has an ‘alcohol abuse disorder’ should be able to use that as a defense when he plows into and kills the schoolchildren crossing the road. Analogous to Sorsby betting on games he’s suited up for.
June 9th, 2026 at 12:21:18 PM
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Quote: billryanI read that he bet on his team, not against them, but it shouldn't matter. It looks like the SEC will not play any sports against Texas Tech if he is on the roster.
His attorneys claim his actions were a result of a gambling disorder that he's been treated for, and that he deserves a second chance.
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He should not be banned due to his mental health disorder. He should be forever banned due to his conduct. Period. Reason #4,581 why I hate big time college athletics. Bunch of sleazes all around.
June 9th, 2026 at 12:55:07 PM
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The boycott started with Georgia and Nebraska and seems to be spreading to the B10 and the SEC.
If the courts make TT play him, his offensive line can settle this fairly easily. Six or seven straight sacks might send him a message his gambling addicted brain may process.
If the courts make TT play him, his offensive line can settle this fairly easily. Six or seven straight sacks might send him a message his gambling addicted brain may process.
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June 9th, 2026 at 1:29:22 PM
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Quote: billryanThe boycott started with Georgia and Nebraska and seems to be spreading to the B10 and the SEC.
If the courts make TT play him, his offensive line can settle this fairly easily. Six or seven straight sacks might send him a message his gambling addicted brain may process.
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Don't you think his teammates want him on the team? Assuming he is the best QB on their roster, I think the team will want him to play.
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June 9th, 2026 at 1:51:54 PM
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Quote: billryanThe boycott started with Georgia and Nebraska and seems to be spreading to the B10 and the SEC.
If the courts make TT play him, his offensive line can settle this fairly easily. Six or seven straight sacks might send him a message his gambling addicted brain may process.
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If the courts have ruled, they have ruled, and the schools should not be setting a bad example by not upholding their obligations to the NCAA and implying that courts and their rulings don't matter.
And if players on the team responded by intentionally throwing a game they would be guilty of doing something worse than just betting.
June 9th, 2026 at 2:21:52 PM
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Quote: DRichQuote: billryanThe boycott started with Georgia and Nebraska and seems to be spreading to the B10 and the SEC.
If the courts make TT play him, his offensive line can settle this fairly easily. Six or seven straight sacks might send him a message his gambling addicted brain may process.
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Don't you think his teammates want him on the team? Assuming he is the best QB on their roster, I think the team will want him to play.
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I'm sure Josh Hamilton's teammates wanted him on their team, but that has nothing to do with it.
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June 9th, 2026 at 3:57:49 PM
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Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryanThe boycott started with Georgia and Nebraska and seems to be spreading to the B10 and the SEC.
If the courts make TT play him, his offensive line can settle this fairly easily. Six or seven straight sacks might send him a message his gambling addicted brain may process.
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If the courts have ruled, they have ruled, and the schools should not be setting a bad example by not upholding their obligations to the NCAA and implying that courts and their rulings don't matter.
And if players on the team responded by intentionally throwing a game they would be guilty of doing something worse than just betting.
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The court has not ruled on the case, they scheduled it for February. February is after the football season so they they said the player can play up until the resolution of the case. In other words, he can play this football season which will be ending before the case is heard in February.
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June 9th, 2026 at 6:36:57 PM
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Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryanThe boycott started with Georgia and Nebraska and seems to be spreading to the B10 and the SEC.
If the courts make TT play him, his offensive line can settle this fairly easily. Six or seven straight sacks might send him a message his gambling addicted brain may process.
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If the courts have ruled, they have ruled, and the schools should not be setting a bad example by not upholding their obligations to the NCAA and implying that courts and their rulings don't matter.
And if players on the team responded by intentionally throwing a game they would be guilty of doing something worse than just betting.
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What obligations do they have to schedule games vs TT?
June 9th, 2026 at 7:15:45 PM
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Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryanThe boycott started with Georgia and Nebraska and seems to be spreading to the B10 and the SEC.
If the courts make TT play him, his offensive line can settle this fairly easily. Six or seven straight sacks might send him a message his gambling addicted brain may process.
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If the courts have ruled, they have ruled, and the schools should not be setting a bad example by not upholding their obligations to the NCAA and implying that courts and their rulings don't matter.
And if players on the team responded by intentionally throwing a game they would be guilty of doing something worse than just betting.
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What obligations do they have to schedule games vs TT?
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When you're in the NCAA, your conference tells you who your opponents are and you play them. Everyone involved in this process has contractual obligations that don't get voided because some schools don't like that a judge said some other player can play for some other team. Forfeiting a game is a big deal at this level and you end up owing a lot of people, from the broadcasters to the venues to the concessionaires when you don't show up.
June 9th, 2026 at 7:24:43 PM
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Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryanThe boycott started with Georgia and Nebraska and seems to be spreading to the B10 and the SEC.
If the courts make TT play him, his offensive line can settle this fairly easily. Six or seven straight sacks might send him a message his gambling addicted brain may process.
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If the courts have ruled, they have ruled, and the schools should not be setting a bad example by not upholding their obligations to the NCAA and implying that courts and their rulings don't matter.
And if players on the team responded by intentionally throwing a game they would be guilty of doing something worse than just betting.
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What obligations do they have to schedule games vs TT?
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When you're in the NCAA, your conference tells you who your opponents are and you play them. Everyone involved in this process has contractual obligations that don't get voided because some schools don't like that a judge said some other player can play for some other team. Forfeiting a game is a big deal at this level and you end up owing a lot of people, from the broadcasters to the venues to the concessionaires when you don't show up.
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For conference games, you would be correct, but schools get to make their own non-conference schedule. And if the Big 12 doesn't schedule any confrence games for TT, and if non-conference teams bow out, then that's the way the football bounces.
June 9th, 2026 at 7:40:32 PM
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Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryanThe boycott started with Georgia and Nebraska and seems to be spreading to the B10 and the SEC.
If the courts make TT play him, his offensive line can settle this fairly easily. Six or seven straight sacks might send him a message his gambling addicted brain may process.
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If the courts have ruled, they have ruled, and the schools should not be setting a bad example by not upholding their obligations to the NCAA and implying that courts and their rulings don't matter.
And if players on the team responded by intentionally throwing a game they would be guilty of doing something worse than just betting.
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What obligations do they have to schedule games vs TT?
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When you're in the NCAA, your conference tells you who your opponents are and you play them. Everyone involved in this process has contractual obligations that don't get voided because some schools don't like that a judge said some other player can play for some other team. Forfeiting a game is a big deal at this level and you end up owing a lot of people, from the broadcasters to the venues to the concessionaires when you don't show up.
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For conference games, you would be correct, but schools get to make their own non-conference schedule. And if the Big 12 doesn't schedule any confrence games for TT, and if non-conference teams bow out, then that's the way the football bounces.
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If the Big 12 doesn't schedule conference games for a member they would surely be afoul of their contract with that member. All of this dispute is about people being displeased with a judge's ruling, and to retaliate against that extrajudicially while the case is in progress is the textbook definition of digging yourself deeper into a hole.
When a judge's ruling doesn't go your way, the adult response is "We are displeased by this turn of events, but we are confident that we will prevail when the issue is fully resolved" and then go about your business.
June 9th, 2026 at 7:52:52 PM
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Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryanThe boycott started with Georgia and Nebraska and seems to be spreading to the B10 and the SEC.
If the courts make TT play him, his offensive line can settle this fairly easily. Six or seven straight sacks might send him a message his gambling addicted brain may process.
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If the courts have ruled, they have ruled, and the schools should not be setting a bad example by not upholding their obligations to the NCAA and implying that courts and their rulings don't matter.
And if players on the team responded by intentionally throwing a game they would be guilty of doing something worse than just betting.
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What obligations do they have to schedule games vs TT?
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When you're in the NCAA, your conference tells you who your opponents are and you play them. Everyone involved in this process has contractual obligations that don't get voided because some schools don't like that a judge said some other player can play for some other team. Forfeiting a game is a big deal at this level and you end up owing a lot of people, from the broadcasters to the venues to the concessionaires when you don't show up.
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For conference games, you would be correct, but schools get to make their own non-conference schedule. And if the Big 12 doesn't schedule any confrence games for TT, and if non-conference teams bow out, then that's the way the football bounces.
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If the Big 12 doesn't schedule conference games for a member they would surely be afoul of their contract with that member. All of this dispute is about people being displeased with a judge's ruling, and to retaliate against that extrajudicially while the case is in progress is the textbook definition of digging yourself deeper into a hole.
When a judge's ruling doesn't go your way, the adult response is "We are displeased by this turn of events, but we are confident that we will prevail when the issue is fully resolved" and then go about your business.
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And that business is to exercise the conference's right and power-to the extent they exist-to refuse to schedule games against TT as long as this player is on the roster.
June 9th, 2026 at 7:53:47 PM
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Another good hockey game. Series tied 2-2. Hopefully we get a game 7.
I have not seen the line for game 5 yet but I would guess Carolina -140.
I have not seen the line for game 5 yet but I would guess Carolina -140.
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June 9th, 2026 at 7:59:52 PM
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Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryanThe boycott started with Georgia and Nebraska and seems to be spreading to the B10 and the SEC.
If the courts make TT play him, his offensive line can settle this fairly easily. Six or seven straight sacks might send him a message his gambling addicted brain may process.
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If the courts have ruled, they have ruled, and the schools should not be setting a bad example by not upholding their obligations to the NCAA and implying that courts and their rulings don't matter.
And if players on the team responded by intentionally throwing a game they would be guilty of doing something worse than just betting.
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What obligations do they have to schedule games vs TT?
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When you're in the NCAA, your conference tells you who your opponents are and you play them. Everyone involved in this process has contractual obligations that don't get voided because some schools don't like that a judge said some other player can play for some other team. Forfeiting a game is a big deal at this level and you end up owing a lot of people, from the broadcasters to the venues to the concessionaires when you don't show up.
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For conference games, you would be correct, but schools get to make their own non-conference schedule. And if the Big 12 doesn't schedule any confrence games for TT, and if non-conference teams bow out, then that's the way the football bounces.
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If the Big 12 doesn't schedule conference games for a member they would surely be afoul of their contract with that member. All of this dispute is about people being displeased with a judge's ruling, and to retaliate against that extrajudicially while the case is in progress is the textbook definition of digging yourself deeper into a hole.
When a judge's ruling doesn't go your way, the adult response is "We are displeased by this turn of events, but we are confident that we will prevail when the issue is fully resolved" and then go about your business.
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My understanding is the injunction prevents the NCAA from dis-allowing Sorsby to play. That does not necessarily mean that the Big 12 conference can not ban him from playing.
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June 9th, 2026 at 8:18:54 PM
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Quote: DRichQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryanThe boycott started with Georgia and Nebraska and seems to be spreading to the B10 and the SEC.
If the courts make TT play him, his offensive line can settle this fairly easily. Six or seven straight sacks might send him a message his gambling addicted brain may process.
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If the courts have ruled, they have ruled, and the schools should not be setting a bad example by not upholding their obligations to the NCAA and implying that courts and their rulings don't matter.
And if players on the team responded by intentionally throwing a game they would be guilty of doing something worse than just betting.
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What obligations do they have to schedule games vs TT?
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When you're in the NCAA, your conference tells you who your opponents are and you play them. Everyone involved in this process has contractual obligations that don't get voided because some schools don't like that a judge said some other player can play for some other team. Forfeiting a game is a big deal at this level and you end up owing a lot of people, from the broadcasters to the venues to the concessionaires when you don't show up.
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For conference games, you would be correct, but schools get to make their own non-conference schedule. And if the Big 12 doesn't schedule any confrence games for TT, and if non-conference teams bow out, then that's the way the football bounces.
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If the Big 12 doesn't schedule conference games for a member they would surely be afoul of their contract with that member. All of this dispute is about people being displeased with a judge's ruling, and to retaliate against that extrajudicially while the case is in progress is the textbook definition of digging yourself deeper into a hole.
When a judge's ruling doesn't go your way, the adult response is "We are displeased by this turn of events, but we are confident that we will prevail when the issue is fully resolved" and then go about your business.
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My understanding is the injunction prevents the NCAA from dis-allowing Sorsby to play. That does not necessarily mean that the Big 12 conference can not ban him from playing.
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The ruling as I understand it was that not allowing him to play because of the charges while the case was in progress would cause him irreparable harm. That would apply to anyone who doesn't allow him to play because of the charges. It wouldn't apply to Texas Tech; they can cut him just because they don't think he's good enough, but they don't seem inclined to do that.
June 9th, 2026 at 8:23:50 PM
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I fully support the boycott of TTU if they decide to keep Sorsby on their Football roster. the judge has knowingly scheduled his hearing on the case after the coming football season has ended. This is a Texas state court judge who is sympathetic to TTU. Their is no reason or obligation for the sports community to behave conventionally towards this judge.
The conferences and schools do NOT work for the NCAA (which has very little authority and only in selected areas of rules enforcement.) and each school picks its nonconference foes in football (a conference does not pick a member school's non-conference foes.) Any school can refuse to enter into contracts and can also forfeit any game they want to and suffer contractual penalties. Infamously, there is no central authority in college sports.
Politically active people choose to boycott lots of entities all the time. It's called "voting your pocketbook." Can't see any reason why universities and conferences can't do it too.
TTU will particularly be hurt in the minor sports if schools start unanimously boycotting their competitions. The TTU athletes in baseball, softball, tennis, volleyball, gymnastics, women's basketball, etc. will be deprived of the thrill of competing all because TTU is supporting a scuzzball quarterback.
Can you imagine the sports media commentary on days when TTU is playing Sornsby? In interviews, will they be asking the TTU Head Coach how he is ensuring that Sornsby isn't going to be throwing the game. They'll ask "What measures has TTU taken to surveill Sornsby's sports betting?"
TTU will be hounded out of college sports if they continue on this path.
The conferences and schools do NOT work for the NCAA (which has very little authority and only in selected areas of rules enforcement.) and each school picks its nonconference foes in football (a conference does not pick a member school's non-conference foes.) Any school can refuse to enter into contracts and can also forfeit any game they want to and suffer contractual penalties. Infamously, there is no central authority in college sports.
Politically active people choose to boycott lots of entities all the time. It's called "voting your pocketbook." Can't see any reason why universities and conferences can't do it too.
TTU will particularly be hurt in the minor sports if schools start unanimously boycotting their competitions. The TTU athletes in baseball, softball, tennis, volleyball, gymnastics, women's basketball, etc. will be deprived of the thrill of competing all because TTU is supporting a scuzzball quarterback.
Can you imagine the sports media commentary on days when TTU is playing Sornsby? In interviews, will they be asking the TTU Head Coach how he is ensuring that Sornsby isn't going to be throwing the game. They'll ask "What measures has TTU taken to surveill Sornsby's sports betting?"
TTU will be hounded out of college sports if they continue on this path.
So many better men, a few of them friends, are dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things live on, and so do I.
June 9th, 2026 at 8:24:50 PM
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Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: DRichQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryanThe boycott started with Georgia and Nebraska and seems to be spreading to the B10 and the SEC.
If the courts make TT play him, his offensive line can settle this fairly easily. Six or seven straight sacks might send him a message his gambling addicted brain may process.
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If the courts have ruled, they have ruled, and the schools should not be setting a bad example by not upholding their obligations to the NCAA and implying that courts and their rulings don't matter.
And if players on the team responded by intentionally throwing a game they would be guilty of doing something worse than just betting.
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What obligations do they have to schedule games vs TT?
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When you're in the NCAA, your conference tells you who your opponents are and you play them. Everyone involved in this process has contractual obligations that don't get voided because some schools don't like that a judge said some other player can play for some other team. Forfeiting a game is a big deal at this level and you end up owing a lot of people, from the broadcasters to the venues to the concessionaires when you don't show up.
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For conference games, you would be correct, but schools get to make their own non-conference schedule. And if the Big 12 doesn't schedule any confrence games for TT, and if non-conference teams bow out, then that's the way the football bounces.
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If the Big 12 doesn't schedule conference games for a member they would surely be afoul of their contract with that member. All of this dispute is about people being displeased with a judge's ruling, and to retaliate against that extrajudicially while the case is in progress is the textbook definition of digging yourself deeper into a hole.
When a judge's ruling doesn't go your way, the adult response is "We are displeased by this turn of events, but we are confident that we will prevail when the issue is fully resolved" and then go about your business.
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My understanding is the injunction prevents the NCAA from dis-allowing Sorsby to play. That does not necessarily mean that the Big 12 conference can not ban him from playing.
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The ruling as I understand it was that not allowing him to play because of the charges while the case was in progress would cause him irreparable harm. That would apply to anyone who doesn't allow him to play because of the charges. It wouldn't apply to Texas Tech; they can cut him just because they don't think he's good enough, but they don't seem inclined to do that.
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According to Google AI the ruling is "A Texas state judge granted Texas Tech quarterback Brendan Sorsby a temporary injunction on June 8, 2026, forcing the NCAA to allow him to play this season. "
Hopefully the Big 12 will rule him ineligible.
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June 9th, 2026 at 8:31:40 PM
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Quote: DRichQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: DRichQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryanThe boycott started with Georgia and Nebraska and seems to be spreading to the B10 and the SEC.
If the courts make TT play him, his offensive line can settle this fairly easily. Six or seven straight sacks might send him a message his gambling addicted brain may process.
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If the courts have ruled, they have ruled, and the schools should not be setting a bad example by not upholding their obligations to the NCAA and implying that courts and their rulings don't matter.
And if players on the team responded by intentionally throwing a game they would be guilty of doing something worse than just betting.
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What obligations do they have to schedule games vs TT?
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When you're in the NCAA, your conference tells you who your opponents are and you play them. Everyone involved in this process has contractual obligations that don't get voided because some schools don't like that a judge said some other player can play for some other team. Forfeiting a game is a big deal at this level and you end up owing a lot of people, from the broadcasters to the venues to the concessionaires when you don't show up.
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For conference games, you would be correct, but schools get to make their own non-conference schedule. And if the Big 12 doesn't schedule any confrence games for TT, and if non-conference teams bow out, then that's the way the football bounces.
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If the Big 12 doesn't schedule conference games for a member they would surely be afoul of their contract with that member. All of this dispute is about people being displeased with a judge's ruling, and to retaliate against that extrajudicially while the case is in progress is the textbook definition of digging yourself deeper into a hole.
When a judge's ruling doesn't go your way, the adult response is "We are displeased by this turn of events, but we are confident that we will prevail when the issue is fully resolved" and then go about your business.
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My understanding is the injunction prevents the NCAA from dis-allowing Sorsby to play. That does not necessarily mean that the Big 12 conference can not ban him from playing.
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The ruling as I understand it was that not allowing him to play because of the charges while the case was in progress would cause him irreparable harm. That would apply to anyone who doesn't allow him to play because of the charges. It wouldn't apply to Texas Tech; they can cut him just because they don't think he's good enough, but they don't seem inclined to do that.
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According to Google AI the ruling is "A Texas state judge granted Texas Tech quarterback Brendan Sorsby a temporary injunction on June 8, 2026, forcing the NCAA to allow him to play this season. "
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They haven;t forced TTU to play him; they have forced the NCAA to make him eligible and TTU might possibly be required to pay his health insurance and room and board. But TTU can opt to not play Sorsby, The Big 12 Conference Commissioner also has the authority to suspend Sorsby as a disciplinary action separate from the NCAA's authority. The only parties that have filed in the court case before the judge are Sorsby, and the NCAA .
So many better men, a few of them friends, are dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things live on, and so do I.
June 10th, 2026 at 1:01:18 AM
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I am not a lawyer; all my legal education I have received in a straitjacket while being restrained by bailiffs.
But these guys are!
https://www.swlaw.com/publication/the-hidden-weapon-in-sorsbys-injunction-how-a-lubbock-county-court-order-quietly-neutralized-the-ncaas-most-powerful-enforcement-tool/
As I'm following the article, it seems the judge's biggest objection was to the enforcement mechanisms used by the NCAA, in that they flirt with breach of contract. He also seems to believe Sorsby has a reasonable chance to win his case, in that given his mental health disability claims the NCAA's penalty was disproportionate and irregularly applied.
I think I understand the judge's reasoning. Put it all in a 2-column truth table, where in one column Sorsby is allowed to play or not, and in the other he wins his case or not. The only combination where anyone suffers irreparable harm is if he is not allowed to play and also wins his case. Thus the judge can prevent irreparable harm by letting him play. Note the penalty at this point is strictly punitive, not reparative or preventive, as no one is claiming he is still gambling or is a risk to corrupt his games. The order does require him to continue with compulsive gambling and mental health treatment. And if his court case can wait, so can his punishment.
Also consider the decision of Texas Tech to sign him. What is the reasoning behind banning athletes from betting on their games- that they are going to bet on themselves and then go out there and give 110% to win both their game and their bet, or that they are going to bet against themselves and then throw the game? If TT was in the least bit concerned he is going to do the latter they would not be letting him anywhere near that team.
I am not a lawyer; all my legal education I have received in a straitjacket while being restrained by bailiffs.
But these guys are!
https://www.swlaw.com/publication/the-hidden-weapon-in-sorsbys-injunction-how-a-lubbock-county-court-order-quietly-neutralized-the-ncaas-most-powerful-enforcement-tool/
As I'm following the article, it seems the judge's biggest objection was to the enforcement mechanisms used by the NCAA, in that they flirt with breach of contract. He also seems to believe Sorsby has a reasonable chance to win his case, in that given his mental health disability claims the NCAA's penalty was disproportionate and irregularly applied.
I think I understand the judge's reasoning. Put it all in a 2-column truth table, where in one column Sorsby is allowed to play or not, and in the other he wins his case or not. The only combination where anyone suffers irreparable harm is if he is not allowed to play and also wins his case. Thus the judge can prevent irreparable harm by letting him play. Note the penalty at this point is strictly punitive, not reparative or preventive, as no one is claiming he is still gambling or is a risk to corrupt his games. The order does require him to continue with compulsive gambling and mental health treatment. And if his court case can wait, so can his punishment.
Also consider the decision of Texas Tech to sign him. What is the reasoning behind banning athletes from betting on their games- that they are going to bet on themselves and then go out there and give 110% to win both their game and their bet, or that they are going to bet against themselves and then throw the game? If TT was in the least bit concerned he is going to do the latter they would not be letting him anywhere near that team.
June 10th, 2026 at 5:27:34 AM
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Also consider the decision of Texas Tech to sign him. What is the reasoning behind banning athletes from betting on their games- that they are going to bet on themselves and then go out there and give 110% to win both their game and their bet, or that they are going to bet against themselves and then throw the game? If TT was in the least bit concerned he is going to do the latter they would not be letting him anywhere near that team.
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1. Players and coaches have inside information. Injuries. Flu bugs. The offensive line stayed up all night playing video games. The star wide reciever just got dumped by his girlfriend. Some players will be hung-over after too much partying. No one wants people with inside info to bet on games. If Sornsby can bet on his own games then other sports gamblers will want to know how much?
2. Gamblers don't just bet on win/lose. They bet against a point spread. They make proposition bets. Sornsby might literally be able to bet on how many passing yards he will have in the first half. Thus, their wagers may affect their in-game performance.
3. If Sornsby has big money on TTU winning and a teammate makes a mental error that costs them the victory then Sornsby might be angry with that teammate, might want retribution. This kind of stuff can destroy a team.
It is universally acknowledged that players making wagers on their own games is a corrosive situation.
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June 10th, 2026 at 11:55:25 AM
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Also consider the decision of Texas Tech to sign him. What is the reasoning behind banning athletes from betting on their games- that they are going to bet on themselves and then go out there and give 110% to win both their game and their bet, or that they are going to bet against themselves and then throw the game? If TT was in the least bit concerned he is going to do the latter they would not be letting him anywhere near that team.
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1. Players and coaches have inside information. Injuries. Flu bugs. The offensive line stayed up all night playing video games. The star wide reciever just got dumped by his girlfriend. Some players will be hung-over after too much partying. No one wants people with inside info to bet on games. If Sornsby can bet on his own games then other sports gamblers will want to know how much?
2. Gamblers don't just bet on win/lose. They bet against a point spread. They make proposition bets. Sornsby might literally be able to bet on how many passing yards he will have in the first half. Thus, their wagers may affect their in-game performance.
3. If Sornsby has big money on TTU winning and a teammate makes a mental error that costs them the victory then Sornsby might be angry with that teammate, might want retribution. This kind of stuff can destroy a team.
It is universally acknowledged that players making wagers on their own games is a corrosive situation.
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Oh I agree. What I mean is that I think Texas Tech believes he is done with betting. Being they are the ones who have the most to lose if they are wrong, it's fair to give some deference to their judgment.
Noted that the types of bets that are available rather than straight winning or losing that exacerbate the problem. If they were just betting on themselves winning outright it would be more like a performance bonus than corruption. Like if I were to walk into the locker room before the game and tell them "I just bet a million dollars on you guys winning outright, and if you win you all get a share of it." That still leaves an entry for corruption (they could make an agreement to share their shares with the other team if the other team throws the game) but the economics of such a deal degrade quickly, to the point where they'd be better off just playing to win.
June 10th, 2026 at 12:20:09 PM
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Even just betting on your team to win is fraught with problems. The coach might want ‘give some time’ to a lesser player to be more prepared for ‘important’ conference games later in the season. Soresby might dissuade the coach from putting in a sub if he has money bet on that game.
Pete Rose bet on individual games. A good manager might have not used a closer for 3 nights in a row, but if you have money on the 3rd game you might over extend him, not for the team’s overall good, but to win that ONE bet.
And his LACK of betting on his team might be indicative of him planning on resting a star.
Betting ANYTHING on a game you are playing in/managing is always bad.
Pete Rose bet on individual games. A good manager might have not used a closer for 3 nights in a row, but if you have money on the 3rd game you might over extend him, not for the team’s overall good, but to win that ONE bet.
And his LACK of betting on his team might be indicative of him planning on resting a star.
Betting ANYTHING on a game you are playing in/managing is always bad.
June 12th, 2026 at 8:40:45 AM
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Although there was a nice period maybe a year ago with betMGM marketing division accidentally giving me nice offers, right hand not knowing what left had was doing, evidently, that stopped and I finally decided to withdraw all money.
I'm about to do the same with HR. These various sites are going nuts with the current sports scene, but I'm getting zippo from HR. Blew it somehow.
I'm about to do the same with HR. These various sites are going nuts with the current sports scene, but I'm getting zippo from HR. Blew it somehow.
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
June 12th, 2026 at 9:26:22 AM
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Quote: odiousgambitAlthough there was a nice period maybe a year ago with betMGM marketing division accidentally giving me nice offers, right hand not knowing what left had was doing, evidently, that stopped and I finally decided to withdraw all money.
I'm about to do the same with HR. These various sites are going nuts with the current sports scene, but I'm getting zippo from HR. Blew it somehow.
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I am also getting nothing from Hard Rock and I gave them over $80k in college football bets this year.
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June 12th, 2026 at 12:38:24 PM
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Quote: DRichQuote: odiousgambitAlthough there was a nice period maybe a year ago with betMGM marketing division accidentally giving me nice offers, right hand not knowing what left had was doing, evidently, that stopped and I finally decided to withdraw all money.
I'm about to do the same with HR. These various sites are going nuts with the current sports scene, but I'm getting zippo from HR. Blew it somehow.
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I am also getting nothing from Hard Rock and I gave them over $80k in college football bets this year.
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I don’t know what you guys did. I think by the time I left my HR offers had +EV exceeding $50 a day.
Since back my bet MGM offers alone might be exceeding that. I’ll have been gone 9 days so I’ll see what’s available in a few….
June 13th, 2026 at 5:07:16 AM
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you won't tell us your secrets!
with BetMGM I am certain I made the mistake of being a noticed frequent withdrawer, assuming cherry-picking offers alone won't do it.
with HR initially it just seemed to be cherry-picking plus really good luck on top of that. Then recently I think they suspected I was playing one site off against another, offers involved, which I was. A guess.
with BetMGM I am certain I made the mistake of being a noticed frequent withdrawer, assuming cherry-picking offers alone won't do it.
with HR initially it just seemed to be cherry-picking plus really good luck on top of that. Then recently I think they suspected I was playing one site off against another, offers involved, which I was. A guess.
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
