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SM777
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August 11th, 2019 at 6:03:43 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

the way you word your question is very amusing dude

it's like you're a criminal investigator

let's say somebody, anybody, not Joel, is selling picks

how much hard time do you think they should do?..................would 10 years be enough?.................................... 😃 😃 😃





I totally understand and agree with the Wiz's desire not to allow picks to be sold on his site





but outside of here what difference does it make anyway?

it's almost a sure thing that if a gambler is foolish enough to hand his money over to a bogus tout that if touts weren't around he would creatively find another way to lose his money

nobody is going to stop a foolish gambler from losing his money..................................nobody

nobody is even going to be able to slow the losses down



Axel's question is quite relevant. Because Joel has tried to sell picks a couple years ago on this site to uninformed members. I mean his record was atrocious, and he was lying through his teeth about his "success and method" but that's beside the point. He was still looking for clients on his information service or whatever it was that could help make you a better sports bettor.

Axel and I are here to call a spade a spade. Joel is back on this forum after a hiatus looking to get hot and nab a few clients. Predictably he'll give terrible picks again and fail, but the intent is quite clear after his first run here. If he fails, he'll disappear for a year, return, rinse and repeat.
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August 11th, 2019 at 6:04:11 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

I don't have any problem with JoelDeze posting exactly what he said he would post, making picks in advance of games, and letting us follow along with whatever record he generates.



That's a shame, considering his intent is very well known.
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August 11th, 2019 at 9:02:47 AM permalink
Quote: SM777

That's a shame, considering his intent is very well known.



The precedent is well-set among dozens of examples. I am assuming that JD will ONLY be posting his picks as he described, not advertising any tout services or pay-to-play info for subscribers.

If people reach out to him in PM to buy something, caveat emptor. If HE PMs people attempting to sell something, immediate expulsion. Same as anyone else.
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lilredrooster
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August 11th, 2019 at 1:03:07 PM permalink
Quote: SM777


Axel and I are here to call a spade a spade. Joel is back on this forum after a hiatus looking to get hot and nab a few clients. Predictably he'll give terrible picks again and fail, but the intent is quite clear after his first run here. If he fails, he'll disappear for a year, return, rinse and repeat.




1. I don't believe Joel's picks will offer any edge and I don't recommend anyone use them

2. You lump yourself in with Axel - but Axel's posts are much more valuable than yours

3. you absolutely needlessly harassed and trolled GWAE when he made it abundantly clear that his picks were just for fun - he informed everybody he was a newcomer, he did mention his winning picks which were the first sports picks he ever made but he also said he expected to lose. your posts towards him really 𝐬𝐮𝐜𝐤𝐞𝐝

4. I went through about 90% of Joel's posts on football in 2017 and I didn't find a single reference to any outside website or picks service - if he PMed somebody and offered to sell them that would probably have been found out by the mods and they would have banned him

5. In 2017 Joel challenged you to prove that he was touting for money and clients and you didn't answer - see the image

6. You see yourself as some kind of Picks Police. people here aren't stupid. if somebody is touting for money they will easily see that

7. your posts re sports betting are virtually always negative and virtually always have little or no value. if somebody is picking and losing everybody can see that. nobody needs you to point it out





where's your answer to his question? - don't anybody waste their time looking - he didn't answer
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JoelDeze
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August 11th, 2019 at 1:20:46 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

The precedent is well-set among dozens of examples. I am assuming that JD will ONLY be posting his picks as he described, not advertising any tout services or pay-to-play info for subscribers.

If people reach out to him in PM to buy something, caveat emptor. If HE PMs people attempting to sell something, immediate expulsion. Same as anyone else.



I appreciate it but Just to set the record straight again, Iím not here to sell anything. I even cleaned up my profile to ensure no names were provided. Show me one time I was banned for doing such. It wonít be found.

This year I was just trying to have some fun by setting a starting bankroll and working with capital at risk as weeks progressed. I had no set expectations other than hoping to do well with the 1k bankroll.

I can see this is bothering some people here, namely SM and Axel, so itís probably better to just close the thread. Iím really not the bad guy those two think I am. I had a really bad year a couple of years back so took one year off from doing any sports betting. It was a pretty humbling year in 2017.

My apologies to anyone I upset.

Good luck this year everyone.
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August 11th, 2019 at 5:15:54 PM permalink
Quote: JoelDeze

I appreciate it but Just to set the record straight again, Iím not here to sell anything. I even cleaned up my profile to ensure no names were provided. Show me one time I was banned for doing such. It wonít be found.

This year I was just trying to have some fun by setting a starting bankroll and working with capital at risk as weeks progressed. I had no set expectations other than hoping to do well with the 1k bankroll.

I can see this is bothering some people here, namely SM and Axel, so itís probably better to just close the thread. Iím really not the bad guy those two think I am. I had a really bad year a couple of years back so took one year off from doing any sports betting. It was a pretty humbling year in 2017.

My apologies to anyone I upset.

Good luck this year everyone.

No, you are not bothering me, and no, I don't think you are a bad guy. I have no doubt you are a very intelligent nice person who knows more about sports and computer programming( or whatever you do) than most people. I actually believed you think there's some Merit to whatever you're doing, and it/you can beat Sports. Of course, you thought this about craps as well. As soon as I noticed that you peaked Bill Ryan's interests I realize that people needed to know that your history here. Because, there might just be one person who actually believes you have an advantage in sports. Perhaps you do, perhaps you don't, but let's get give everyone all the information regarding your history here so they can figure out what's up for themselves. Feel free to post picks all day, just do us a favor, if and when Your picks go sour, don't do like last time and run away. I actually look forward to seeing what you can do.
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August 11th, 2019 at 6:51:39 PM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

1. I don't believe Joel's picks will offer any edge and I don't recommend anyone use them

2. You lump yourself in with Axel - but Axel's posts are much more valuable than yours

3. you absolutely needlessly harassed and trolled GWAE when he made it abundantly clear that his picks were just for fun - he informed everybody he was a newcomer, he did mention his winning picks which were the first sports picks he ever made but he also said he expected to lose. your posts towards him really 𝐬𝐮𝐜𝐤𝐞𝐝

4. I went through about 90% of Joel's posts on football in 2017 and I didn't find a single reference to any outside website or picks service - if he PMed somebody and offered to sell them that would probably have been found out by the mods and they would have banned him

5. In 2017 Joel challenged you to prove that he was touting for money and clients and you didn't answer - see the image

6. You see yourself as some kind of Picks Police. people here aren't stupid. if somebody is touting for money they will easily see that

7. your posts re sports betting are virtually always negative and virtually always have little or no value. if somebody is picking and losing everybody can see that. nobody needs you to point it out





where's your answer to his question? - don't anybody waste their time looking - he didn't answer



A lot of this is nonsense. If you can't find Joel's post about touting, then he edited the post. He literally posted his website that that was like his user name with a dot com that links to his site to sign people up. If I remember, it was extremely cheap, like $20 a year. But that's besides the point. It's either been edited, or in the 10% you didn't look at. But, my bad for pissing off the rooster for pointing it out.

I call a spade a spade. Been behind the counter of the industry for 15 years. Many here haven't. It's a young industry expanding with the scum touts out there ready to pounce on anyone. I don't need to answer to Joel on a random challenge.

Sorry the truth hurts, snowflake.
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August 11th, 2019 at 7:28:20 PM permalink
Quote: SM777

Quote: lilredrooster

1. I don't believe Joel's picks will offer any edge and I don't recommend anyone use them

2. You lump yourself in with Axel - but Axel's posts are much more valuable than yours

3. you absolutely needlessly harassed and trolled GWAE when he made it abundantly clear that his picks were just for fun - he informed everybody he was a newcomer, he did mention his winning picks which were the first sports picks he ever made but he also said he expected to lose. your posts towards him really 𝐬𝐮𝐜𝐤𝐞𝐝

4. I went through about 90% of Joel's posts on football in 2017 and I didn't find a single reference to any outside website or picks service - if he PMed somebody and offered to sell them that would probably have been found out by the mods and they would have banned him

5. In 2017 Joel challenged you to prove that he was touting for money and clients and you didn't answer - see the image

6. You see yourself as some kind of Picks Police. people here aren't stupid. if somebody is touting for money they will easily see that

7. your posts re sports betting are virtually always negative and virtually always have little or no value. if somebody is picking and losing everybody can see that. nobody needs you to point it out





where's your answer to his question? - don't anybody waste their time looking - he didn't answer



A lot of this is nonsense. If you can't find Joel's post about touting, then he edited the post. He literally posted his website that that was like his user name with a dot com that links to his site to sign people up. If I remember, it was extremely cheap, like $20 a year. But that's besides the point. It's either been edited, or in the 10% you didn't look at. But, my bad for pissing off the rooster for pointing it out.

I call a spade a spade. Been behind the counter of the industry for 15 years. Many here haven't. It's a young industry expanding with the scum touts out there ready to pounce on anyone. I don't need to answer to Joel on a random challenge.

Sorry the truth hurts, snowflake.

If I recall correctly, he sent a few of us a free membership pass to his services for a year. If we liked it we could then pay after that. I know I took a look at that site years ago, and I swear to God it had some Voodoo crap about the stars aligning and winning horse races on certain days of the year or some other type of horsesh*t. Someone can correct me if it was not him and it was somebody else.

I'm fairly certain Rome's can dig his up looking though all 10 of his PM's(-; There's almost no way in hell I could ever search through all mt PM's and locate that. If PG and Romes would stop sending me links to their grinder profiles it would be a lot easier. (-;
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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August 11th, 2019 at 10:55:53 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf



If I recall correctly, he sent a few of us a free membership pass to his services for a year. If we liked it we could then pay after that. I know I took a look at that site years ago, and I swear to God it had some Voodoo crap about the stars aligning and winning horse races on certain days of the year or some other type of horsesh*t.




the 2 Picks Policemen have arrived on the scene with their lights flashing, their sirens blaring and their guns drawn
all picksters better duck and cover - you're about to get 𝑩𝑼𝑺𝑻𝑬𝑫......................................😃 😃 😃 😃 😃


take a look dude - and I'm ribbing you but I like you - is your memory fading - startin' to move around a bit slower? the years catching up with you a little bit?


finger stretch to read the small print:


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AxelWolf
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August 11th, 2019 at 11:46:10 PM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

the 2 Picks Policemen have arrived on the scene with their lights flashing, their sirens blaring and their guns drawn
all picksters better duck and cover - you're about to get 𝑩𝑼𝑺𝑻𝑬𝑫......................................😃 😃 😃 😃 😃


take a look dude - and I'm ribbing you but I like you - is your memory fading - startin' to move around a bit slower? the years catching up with you a little bit?


finger stretch to read the small print:


Don't count my memory out yet, there is a good chance Joel had the same type of horsesh*t as well.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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