AZDuffman
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February 12th, 2019 at 3:00:02 PM permalink
Now that sports betting is legal in more and more places, the podcasts and broadcasts are starting to pop up. Same as financial shows, a good bettor probably should listen to one or a few.

Are there any you like so far? And why?

I have been listening to one called GambleOn. Not too long, less than an hour. One good feature is they talk about the state of the sportsbook industry as well as the games. IOW, last few episodes I found out why online poker will be delayed in PA, along with other states, and online sports betting as well. (Legal and sanctioned on both, I know there are currently ways around it.)

Sports betting should be quiet the next few weeks, until March Madness. Any broadcasts/podcasts you can suggest are worth a listen?
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Rigondeaux
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February 12th, 2019 at 6:10:32 PM permalink
Anything with Spanky or Captain Jack as guests. Rufus Peabody seems legit, without looking too closely into it.

Online sports betting is pretty much legal, unless you are the book maker. To my knowledge, nobody has ever been in trouble for it.

There's a guy named Dinkman who is on various pods and I think he is legit too.

Needless to say, 90% of people are either clueless or con men. Fezic, RJ bell, etc. There's a lot of sports betting talk on the radio in LV and for whatever reason, they are only interested in con men.
AZDuffman
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February 13th, 2019 at 2:35:21 AM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

Anything with Spanky or Captain Jack as guests. Rufus Peabody seems legit, without looking too closely into it.

Online sports betting is pretty much legal, unless you are the book maker. To my knowledge, nobody has ever been in trouble for it.

There's a guy named Dinkman who is on various pods and I think he is legit too.

Needless to say, 90% of people are either clueless or con men. Fezic, RJ bell, etc. There's a lot of sports betting talk on the radio in LV and for whatever reason, they are only interested in con men.



I saw one once maybe twice in college decades ago, it was infomercial style, meaning they bought the time. And it was mostly touting 900 numbers with real picks. I just figure there has to be a market to do a sports betting show like they used to do "Bulls and Bears" on FNC on saturdays.
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NokTang
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February 13th, 2019 at 5:01:27 AM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux


Needless to say, 90% of people are either clueless or con men. Fezic, RJ bell, etc. There's a lot of sports betting talk on the radio in LV and for whatever reason, they are only interested in con men.



It could be the "con men" are buying the time. I refer and think of con men as those who sell picks. Is that what you also refer to? One look at the "VIP" crap on you tube and you will get the complete picture. Recently saw an older episode where a guy supposedly owed them $31.000.USD(half of $62,000) won.
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February 13th, 2019 at 6:22:11 AM permalink
Behind The Bets is done by ESPN. I strongly suggest listening to episodes with John Murray from the Westgate Sportsbook. He's the Director over there, and provides a real look at who's betting what, and a professional opinion, as opposed to all of these touts trying to further their brand and selling more subscriptions to their picks services.

It's a shame the public will be introduced to sellouts like Fezzik, and touts like Vegas Dave, Kelly In Vegas, etc instead of getting real, insightful information from people like John Murray and others actually in the industry with real information on who's betting what, what way books think the line will move, what are the sharps on, etc.

Rufus Peabody is extremely well respected in the sports betting industry. His bets move lines, specifically his prop bets.

As far as Spanky goes, he's just a steam bettor. Blows a lot of smoke online, but he's just betting numbers immediately when they move. Anyone can do that, his plays aren't organic from himself.
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February 13th, 2019 at 7:44:11 AM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux



Needless to say, 90% of people are either clueless or con men. Fezic, RJ bell, etc. There's a lot of sports betting talk on the radio in LV and for whatever reason, they are only interested in con men.



I must say that I do enjoy listening to Fezzik and RJ Bell. Obviously they are touts, but I think they make good radio.
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February 13th, 2019 at 4:45:35 PM permalink
I don't listen to radio much, let alone sports talk but all those people talk about is "this teams gonna cover, so bet them" and no info on the numbers which is the most important part. -105 has different breakeven rates as opposed to -110 bruh
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Rigondeaux
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February 13th, 2019 at 4:51:55 PM permalink
Quote: NokTang

It could be the "con men" are buying the time. I refer and think of con men as those who sell picks. Is that what you also refer to? One look at the "VIP" crap on you tube and you will get the complete picture. Recently saw an older episode where a guy supposedly owed them $31.000.USD(half of $62,000) won.



Some of them buy time. Dave Cokin has a bought show.

Regular sports shows have guys like RJ Bell on a lot. Stephen A Smith and Cowherd both have him on.

Deadspin ran a big article documenting that his touts actually ran worse than a coin flipper over thousands of picks, and with a furtive recording of RJ talking about what suckers his clients are. It had no impact on him being invited on those shows. Guess they don't care if the fans who made them millionaires are hornswaggled out of their pay checks.
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February 13th, 2019 at 5:49:12 PM permalink
Why anyone would listen to a tout is beyond me.

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AZDuffman
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February 14th, 2019 at 2:19:40 AM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

Why anyone would listen to a tout is beyond me.

Have your own opinion. If youíre wrong, try and learn from it.



If a show was done right I think there would be a decent market. But that means the show cannot just be a vehicle for selling picks. It would as I said need to be like "Thestreet.com" when it was on, or "Bulls and Bears" when it was on. Take apart why the touts are making this or that pick. It would need to be a cross between a general sports show and a sports betting show.

Hard part is when would a good show air? Saturday morning is logical in football season, but that makes you lose the first weekend of March Madness. Special day could be done for that. But the show might drag in summer with just baseball to bet, unless it took in the international soccer leagues, but they have fewer viewers.

If only I worked at ESPN.
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