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For those of you actually going to the game I recommend a detour to Blackfoot Idaho to visit the Idaho Potato Museum. It is true, I have witnessed it, they display the worlds largest Pringle. If that isn't enough, an entry to the museum gets you free hash browns.
Quote: DRichLet's get excited. Today is the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl presented from the blue turf of Boise Idaho. I would expect those Spartans from San Jose to cover the 4 point spread over the Eagles of Ypsilanti.
For those of you actually going to the game I recommend a detour to Blackfoot Idaho to visit the Idaho Potato Museum. It is true, I have witnessed it, they display the worlds largest Pringle. If that isn't enough, an entry to the museum gets you free hash browns.
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It's not a pringle if it doesn't come in as can.
Potato chips used to be my go-to comfort food, but I've lost so many brands over the years. Cottage Chips were great, twice as thick as a regular chip. Planters potato chips- made from peanut oil and stacked like Pringles. Who remembers the infamous WOW chips made with olestra? Low calorie but prone to cause explosive diarrhea? Eagle brand? Rippled Wise in the white package that tasted completely different from the blue packaged ones that were a dime less? Keeble O'Boises, with their magical elven after-taste?
Quote: smoothgrhOh no! A disastrous 0-21 second quarter for the Spartans! Eastern Michigan up 30-13 in the third quarter! Can San Jose St. come back from 3 scores down? Do they know the way??
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It was 13-0 San Jose and they were on the one yard line and got stopped. Since then it has been all Eastern Michigan.
Quote: DRichQuote: smoothgrhOh no! A disastrous 0-21 second quarter for the Spartans! Eastern Michigan up 30-13 in the third quarter! Can San Jose St. come back from 3 scores down? Do they know the way??
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It was 13-0 San Jose and they were on the one yard line and got stopped. Since then it has been all Eastern Michigan.
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Buffoon coach for SJS. They are down 14 with around 4 mi utes to go. Time is of the essence. So after each successful play SJS makes a substitution. The referees, following the rules that I assume the SJS coaches are aware of, does not allow SJS to snap the ball until EMU has had time, at their leisure, to substitute with the clock running. As I was typing the above the SJS QB threw a pass right between the numbers…. of a EMU defender. DRich could have caught it.
I wonder if anyone will tell the coach about that clock/substitution rule ? Or just let him make a fool of himself next year?
Quote: billryanIs losing the Idaho Potato Bowl all that much worse than winning the Idaho Potato Bowl? The best part of the game is the field and the pre-game video enticing you to visit Idaho on your next vacation.
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Blasphemy!!! Winning the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl should garner as much adulation and respect as winning the Rose Bowl.
He isn't a tout, selling anything, or offering a service, he just posts up his sports picks. I don't know if he's claiming he has an advantage or not. I'm not even sure what his method is.
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For those who don't follow baseball, Mr. Correa is a very talented shortstop that has had trouble staying on the field in more than half his seasons in the bigs. The Mets will be paying him approx. $315 million dollars into his early forties.
Quote: AxelWolfDanDruff /Todd Witteles Has had an incredible (on the record) NFL season.
He isn't a tout, selling anything, or offering a service, he just posts up his sports picks. I don't know if he's claiming he has an advantage or not. I'm not even sure what his method is.
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Very impressive.
Quote: billryanQuote: AxelWolfDanDruff /Todd Witteles Has had an incredible (on the record) NFL season.
He isn't a tout, selling anything, or offering a service, he just posts up his sports picks. I don't know if he's claiming he has an advantage or not. I'm not even sure what his method is.
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Very impressive.
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It’s quite a run and even more impressive than the record because he mixes in some dog money lines with his NFL spread bets.
Quote: AxelWolfDanDruff /Todd Witteles Has had an incredible (on the record) NFL season.
He isn't a tout, selling anything, or offering a service, he just posts up his sports picks. I don't know if he's claiming he has an advantage or not. I'm not even sure what his method is.
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I think he uses Grays Sports Almanac: Complete Sports Statistics 1950-2000 I mean 2000-2050 ***
***: What a steal, at only $22 (AU) on A* *z*n
this is one of my all time fave NBA pics
Jumpin Johnny Green - about 6'5" tall blocking Wilt's dunk - he played for the Knicks and Baltimore Bullets
he loved to torment the big guy - he dunked on him a lot of times - with the Bullets he once had 20 points on the 6ers in one quarter - mostly on dunks either right over Wilt or when Wilt was right there
I was a huge Baltimore Bullets fan and this guy had me out of my chair so many times - in the 2nd pick he's got to be at least 3.5 feet off the ground
he was really fun to watch - had no outside game - in '70/'71 - he averaged 17 per game and shot .587 from the field - that same year Wilt shot .545 from the field
the Honeycomb - Gus Johnson was another high flying sometimes spectacular Baltimore Bullet - I saw him bust up a backboard on one of his dunks - Gus was so strong - probably the strongest player in the league at that time except for Wilt himself
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this is one of my all time fave NBA pics
Jumpin Johnny Green - about 6'5" tall blocking Wilt's dunk - he played for the Knicks and Baltimore Bullets
he loved to torment the big guy - he dunked on him a lot of times - with the Bullets he once had 20 points on the 6ers in one quarter - mostly on dunks either right over Wilt or when Wilt was right there
I was a huge Baltimore Bullets fan and this guy had me out of my chair so many times - in the 2nd pick he's got to be at least 3.5 feet off the ground
he was really fun to watch - had no outside game - in '70/'71 - he averaged 17 per game and shot .587 from the field - that same year Wilt shot .545 from the field
the Honeycomb - Gus Johnson was another high flying sometimes spectacular Baltimore Bullet - I saw him bust up a backboard on one of his dunks - Gus was so strong - probably the strongest player in the league at that time except for Wilt himself
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You must love Ja Morant. His sneakers get higher than Johnson’s knees…..
back in the day there wasn't a lot of video and there's not much of Gus on YT or many pics - there are some YT vids - but they really don't do him justice
if you could see some of the stuff he did - which has not been preserved - I believe even you would be impressed
but yes, you're right - the modern players are superior to the players of back in the day - in just about every way - no question about it - it's really no contest
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it's really almost frightening how high up the players of today can go - it keeps getting higher and higher - what's it going to be like in 15 years__________?
I really believe they should raise the basket to 11 feet - RIGHT NOW - players going up 2.5 feet over the rim is exciting - but imho it's starting to get tired
there would still be dunks if they raised the basket to 11 feet
and it would be a new and interesting challenge for great shooters - and poor shooters would be even poorer
probably won't happen anytime soon - lots of resistance to change - that's unfortunate
there are now 23 players in the NBA 7 feet or taller - and there's a player who is 7'9" - it's really getting ridiculous - the 3 point shot saved the game - but still
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Per Wikipedia there were 26 players listed as 7’3 or taller in 2019 but only 2, Kristaps Porzingis and Boban Marjonivich were on teams last season (Manute Bol’s son is 7’2). Must only include full time roster players as 7-6 Tacko Fall has played 36 games in the NBA over the last three seasons but spent majority of each season with a g league team.
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this is one of my all time fave NBA pics
Jumpin Johnny Green - about 6'5" tall blocking Wilt's dunk - he played for the Knicks and Baltimore Bullets
he loved to torment the big guy - he dunked on him a lot of times - with the Bullets he once had 20 points on the 6ers in one quarter - mostly on dunks either right over Wilt or when Wilt was right there
I was a huge Baltimore Bullets fan and this guy had me out of my chair so many times - in the 2nd pick he's got to be at least 3.5 feet off the ground
he was really fun to watch - had no outside game - in '70/'71 - he averaged 17 per game and shot .587 from the field - that same year Wilt shot .545 from the field
the Honeycomb - Gus Johnson was another high flying sometimes spectacular Baltimore Bullet - I saw him bust up a backboard on one of his dunks - Gus was so strong - probably the strongest player in the league at that time except for Wilt himself
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Pre-80’s basketball I mostly just know from watching highlights and the history of the game rather than watching it. So was a bit surprised at Gus being perhaps second strongest player in the league but I’m not that familiar with his game.
I’ll have to ask about another couple players. Nate Thurmond? That guy looked like a gladiator. It’s into middle of 70’s or so before they’re all on the same squad but Dr. J, Moses Malone and Daryl Dawkins looked like it would have been quite a physically imposing frontcourt.
basketball's spectacular slam dunk is often not so spectacular anymore - no need to even bother to jump for many 7 footers - others not quite that tall can just stand on their tippy toes and hop a little bit
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Pre-80’s basketball I mostly just know from watching highlights and the history of the game rather than watching it. So was a bit surprised at Gus being perhaps second strongest player in the league but I’m not that familiar with his game.
I’ll have to ask about another couple players. Nate Thurmond? That guy looked like a gladiator. It’s into middle of 70’s or so before they’re all on the same squad but Dr. J, Moses Malone and Daryl Dawkins looked like it would have been quite a physically imposing frontcourt.
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yeah, you're right - those guys you mentioned - Thurmond and Dawkins and Malone were really strong.
was Gus stronger____?_____I dunno - I wasn't being scientific
I'm biased for sure - in the DC/Baltimore area Gus was a legend - people were always talking about him breaking backboards and his incredible dunks
in 70/71 Gus averaged 17 boards per game - only 6'6" - he loved the rough inside play
that same year Chamberlain only averaged 18 boards per game
and Nate Thurmond 6'11" only averaged 14 boards per game - that gives some example of what he could do
below is another pic that gives an example of how strong he really was - I don't believe he worked out - I think his strength was all natural
and below that is a fun vid of Daryl Dawkins shattering a couple of backboards
it's a shame there is no vid of Gus doing that - there just wasn't anywhere near the media that there is now - and much of what he could do is just not there - but it's in my memory - I went to Baltimore several times to see him and the Bullets play
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Quote: billryanMike Riordan went to my high school many years before me but was playing for the Knicks my Freshman year. He was part of the Earl Monroe trade and came into his own as a Bullet.
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the Baltimore Bullets - early 70s were a fun team to watch - and pretty damn tough too
Earl the Pearl, Gus Johnson, Wes Unseld, Riordan - they could play with anybody - nobody was going to blow them away
talking about strong - Wes Unseld looked like he was carved out of a mountain
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Quote: lilredroosterQuote: mcallister3200
Pre-80’s basketball I mostly just know from watching highlights and the history of the game rather than watching it. So was a bit surprised at Gus being perhaps second strongest player in the league but I’m not that familiar with his game.
I’ll have to ask about another couple players. Nate Thurmond? That guy looked like a gladiator. It’s into middle of 70’s or so before they’re all on the same squad but Dr. J, Moses Malone and Daryl Dawkins looked like it would have been quite a physically imposing frontcourt.
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below is another pic that gives an example of how strong he really was - I don't believe he worked out - I think his strength was all natural
and below that is a fun vid of Daryl Dawkins shattering a couple of backboards
it's a shame there is no vid of Gus doing that - there just wasn't anywhere near the media that there is now - and much of what he could do is just not there - but it's in my memory - I went to Baltimore several times to see him and the Bullets play
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I wonder how/when breakaway rims/backboards came about, hopefully an individual made out well with that idea. Brilliant but ruined some cool highlights. Last big backboard breaking dunks I remember are Shaq with the Magic vs the Celtics, current Lakers coach Darvin Ham for Texas Tech in the NCAA tournament, both in ‘90’s.
Is that Lenny Wilkens behind the play (#19) in the Gus Johnson pic? Looks like him.
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Is that Lenny Wilkens behind the play (#19) in the Gus Johnson pic? Looks like him.
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yeah, that's Lenny - he was truly great and a lot of fun to watch
you must really love hoops if you know about all these players from before your time - I really don't know about any from before my time
there was a player - quite a few years older than me - you might have heard of him - Bobby Lewis - he was a huge star at UNC with Larry Miller - he fizzled out in the NBA - he was a DC legend
anyway, this dude put on a dunking exhibition at Dematha basketball camp that I saw - it was unreal - he could fly
I remember - he banged the ball with 2 hands on the right side of the backboard - and then flew around to the left side and dunked it backwards - I've never seen anyone else do that
and this is a 6'2" white guy - you just about never see little white guys doin' that kinna thing - truly incredible
there's Bobby on the right - #22 - with Dean Smith and Larry Miller - what a character he was - just about totally forgotten now
Bobby Lewis - All American - 27 p.p.g. his junior year at UNC - that's way more point production than Michael Jordan had at UNC - not saying he was the equal of Michael Jordan - but still -
and exactly ZERO video of him out there on YT
that's so wrong - what a shame
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1966 - Willis Reed got mad and just about beat the **** out of the entire Lakers team - broke 2 jaws
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Is the Rose Parade going to be on New Years day or will that also get pushed to Monday?
Quote: DRichI am absolutely disgusted by the fact that there are no college bowl games on New Years Day. Without watching the Rose Bowl is it actually New Years Day?
Is the Rose Parade going to be on New Years day or will that also get pushed to Monday?
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I’m being serious! How can you watch the garbage that is the college football useless bowl season? These games are of much lower quality than the regular season games. Each team has a large number of its top players not playing due to ‘preparing for NFL draft, ALREADY transferred to another school, or in the ‘transfer portal’!
There was a game yesterday, I’m NOT making this up, where a team grabbed a jersey with a number that wasn’t the players regular number, pulled it over his other jersey, and sent him out to receive a kick. The announcer said the team didn’t have anyone left who returned kicks! They were penalized for not reporting the jersey change and it was a big deal!
And it will get FAR WORSE next year, with 12 teams in real games, so the garbage bowls start at 13, not 5!
Buffalo beat Georgia State, or maybe it was Georgia Southern, or maybe Georgia school for the blind. So Buffalo went to 7-6, and GS 6-7. If it was a regular season game there isn’t a soul other than DRich who would have watched!!!
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I’m being serious! How can you watch the garbage that is the college football useless bowl season? These games are of much lower quality than the regular season games. Each team has a large number of its top players not playing due to ‘preparing for NFL draft, ALREADY transferred to another school, or in the ‘transfer portal’!
Every game has something interesting to watch. Sometimes it just might be a single matchup between an o-lineman and a d-tackle. I also enjoy analyzing coaching strategies and play calls. In most games I don't care who wins I just hope it is competitive.
The second half of that Kansas game (Liberty bowl) was pretty interesting and I think most fans would have enjoyed watching that.
Quote: DRichQuote: SOOPOO
I’m being serious! How can you watch the garbage that is the college football useless bowl season? These games are of much lower quality than the regular season games. Each team has a large number of its top players not playing due to ‘preparing for NFL draft, ALREADY transferred to another school, or in the ‘transfer portal’!
Every game has something interesting to watch. Sometimes it just might be a single matchup between an o-lineman and a d-tackle. I also enjoy analyzing coaching strategies and play calls. In most games I don't care who wins I just hope it is competitive.
The second half of that Kansas game (Liberty bowl) was pretty interesting and I think most fans would have enjoyed watching that.
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I get it. You like competition. And the mental aspect. So do I. My point is that the new rules have the bowl games have teams that are nothing like the teams that qualified.
Pele just died. I remember his real name had like 30 letters.
Minnesota does have a RB who will break all the Minnesota RB records today. So at least he is playing!
The worst part is that I can’t even bet on it. Syracuse a NY school!
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The worst part is that I can’t even bet on it. Syracuse a NY school!
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I didn't know that New York prohibited bets on New York teams. Obviously, Vegas did that for a long time but stopped about 10 years ago or so.
Tennessee is doing this despite the fact that their best defensive player, Josiah Jordan-James, has been out of most of this year's games with residual soreness from an off-season knee surgery. James is day-to day and if and when James returns, their defense will only improve.
I have seen 10 of the 12 Tennessee Vols games and they are an interesting team with some players still developing. However the little I have seen of the other top mens teams leads me to believe that UConn is better than Tenn, and that Tenn might not match up well with Purdue and Houston. There are other teams with some scary good players (Nick Jones at Arkansas, and Brandon Miller at Alabama). Anytime an elite player goes lights-out, their team will be hard to beat.
Quote: gordonm888The Tennessee Volunteers men's basketball team are ranked by Ken-Pom as the #1 adjusted defense in the country - and reportedly as having the best adjusted effective defense statistics in the 20 years of the Kenpom site!
Tennessee is doing this despite the fact that their best defensive player, Josiah Jordan-James, has been out of most of this year's games with residual soreness from an off-season knee surgery. James is day-to day and if and when James returns, their defense will only improve.
I have seen 10 of the 12 Tennessee Vols games and they are an interesting team with some players still developing. However the little I have seen of the other top mens teams leads me to believe that UConn is better than Tenn, and that Tenn might not match up well with Purdue and Houston. There are other teams with some scary good players (Nick Jones at Arkansas, and Brandon Miller at Alabama). Anytime an elite player goes lights-out, their team will be hard to beat.
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I will always root for a Rick Barnes team. I liked him at Texas and have a vague memory of him coaching Providence, Even a few years ago at Tennessee he had a 30 win season.
Luka Doncic on Tuesday had the most incredible triple double in history - 60 points, 21 bounds, 10 assists
and not just that - take a look at this dude's stats - his 2 point % for this year is .591 and for his career is .550
that's higher than that of WILT CHAMBERLAIN___________________ (career)
unreal - totally
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/doncilu01.html
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I was at a NYE celebration with a mix of people, some of whom were ignoring the football game and some of whom were watching it, and I seemed to clink my champagne glass, drink, and immediately turn to see the football kicked into the air, wide left. The timing was really remarkable.
Quote: avianrandyI heard on the radio after the COLTS -giants game,the defender who caused colts QB foles to be taken off the field to the back was doing snow angels while medics we're loading him up to be taken to the back. Can someone confirm this tacky display of sportsmanship? Heard no sanctions or fines or penalties were called on this guy
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Yes that happened. Doesn’t seem like the defender realized Foles was injured, and he was celebrating his sack.
The TCU Horned Frogs last won a national title in 1938 - 85 years ago
there was no Championship game - the team was awarded the no. 1 spot by an Associated Press poll
that year they went 11-0 under Coach Dutch Meyer
the Horned Frogs are huge dogs to the Bulldogs tonight - 13.5 points
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Head Coach Ron Rivera didn't even know the Commanders could be eliminated from the playoffs if they lost yesterday to the Browns
when a reporter asked him if he would start the 3rd string QB if they were eliminated - he replied:
"We could be eliminated?"
this is too pathetic for words
and the Commanders are eliminated - largely thanks to him and Carson Wentz - one of the worst DC QBs of all time
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/01/01/carson-wentz-ron-rivera-quarterback/
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The TCU Horned Frogs last won a national title in 1938 - 85 years ago
Not true. The Horned Frogs most recently won an NCAA Championship in 2019.
TCU NCCA Championships
Year Sport Coach
1935 Football1 Dutch Meyer
1938 Football Dutch Meyer
1983 Women's Golf Fred Warren
2008 Women's Equestrian Gary Reynolds
2010 NCAA Rifle 2 Karen Monez
2012 NCAA Rifle Karen Monez
2019 NCAA Rifle Karen Monez
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The TCU Horned Frogs last won a national title in 1938 - 85 years ago
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At any given time there are over 100 teams representing their college/university in "Division 1" of college football. How often do you expect any given college to be national champs?
TCU has been national champs in football twice in the last 100 years, Univ. of Georgia. has been football champions 3 times in 1942, 1980, and 2021.
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The TCU Horned Frogs last won a national title in 1938 - 85 years ago
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At any given time there are over 100 teams representing their college/university in "Division 1" of college football. How often do you expect any given college to be national champs?
TCU has been national champs in football twice in the last 100 years, Univ. of Georgia. has been football champions 3 times in 1942, 1980, and 2021.
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that means Georgia has been National Champs 50% more often than TCU
and about 10:30 tonight Georgia will have 4
that's twice as many as TCU
Yale has 18 Championships
Alabama 16
Princeton 15
Notre Dame 13
Michigan 9
USC 9
Harvard 8
Ohio State 8
Oklahoma 7
and Minnesota 6
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Quote: lilredroosterQuote: gordonm888Quote: lilredrooster________________
The TCU Horned Frogs last won a national title in 1938 - 85 years ago
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At any given time there are over 100 teams representing their college/university in "Division 1" of college football. How often do you expect any given college to be national champs?
TCU has been national champs in football twice in the last 100 years, Univ. of Georgia. has been football champions 3 times in 1942, 1980, and 2021.
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that means Georgia has been National Champs 50% more often than TCU
and about 10:30 tonight Georgia will have 4
that's twice as many as TCU
Yale has 18 Championships
Alabama 16
Princeton 15
Notre Dame 13
Michigan 9
USC 9
Harvard 8
Ohio State 8
Oklahoma 7
and Minnesota 6
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Nice of you to award the Natty to Georgia a full week before the game is played.
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Nice of you to award the Natty to Georgia a full week before the game is played.
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that was a very minor error and shouldn't be held against me____________________________________(-:/
as you know - since you're a Doctor - many older people imbibe around the New Year and can remain confused for days after
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