hailtotheskins
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June 4th, 2015 at 7:06:23 PM permalink
I read something the wizard mentioned in an interview about how AP sports betting would be better to take up than card counting. What does that mean? Is it analyzing advanced metrics or just searching for the best odds or parlay cards or what have you? Any clarification would be helpful. Would like a little action this coming football season
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June 5th, 2015 at 1:29:43 AM permalink
Quote: hailtotheskins

I read something the wizard mentioned in an interview about how AP sports betting would be better to take up than card counting. What does that mean? Is it analyzing advanced metrics or just searching for the best odds or parlay cards or what have you? Any clarification would be helpful. Would like a little action this coming football season



I think your question would be best answered by searching for extensive discussions the Wizard has generated and/or participated in on this forum; there are several, referring to half-point parlay cards, proposition betting, several other angles. He's been pretty generous in discussing his methods and what to look for on spreads and points. It's a huge topic on here, though there's not a sports betting sub-forum. The search button on the dark blue menu bar above confines your searches to this site, so it shouldn't be too difficult to intercept some threads and then read them from the start. Hope you find what you're looking for!
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June 6th, 2015 at 4:07:35 AM permalink
Quote: hailtotheskins

I read something the wizard mentioned in an interview about how AP sports betting would be better to take up than card counting. What does that mean? Is it analyzing advanced metrics or just searching for the best odds or parlay cards or what have you? Any clarification would be helpful. Would like a little action this coming football season



Last season he posted his selections most weeks. So, for free, if he continues to do it, you will have money in the bank so they all say. I personally saw too many losers and losing weeks to "buy in" to the theory but whatever rocks your boat mate.
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June 6th, 2015 at 6:32:18 AM permalink
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Last season he posted his selections most weeks. So, for free, if he continues to do it, you will have money in the bank so they all say. I personally saw too many losers and losing weeks to "buy in" to the theory but whatever rocks your boat mate.

If you don't think the Wizard has an advantage on sports you're off your rocker. He doesn't claim to be a handicapper. He usually has sound logic that's usually backed up by data.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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June 6th, 2015 at 7:07:59 AM permalink
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If you don't think the Wizard has an advantage on sports you're off your rocker. He doesn't claim to be a handicapper. He usually has sound logic that's usually backed up by data.



Data is easy as pie to produce. Past data that is. Future data? I'm all eyes/ears. I think in the long run, as someone who understands "vig" aka "juice" aka the true odds on parlays, one can only say what becomes obvious.
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June 6th, 2015 at 7:19:18 AM permalink
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Data is easy as pie to produce. Past data that is. Future data? I'm all eyes/ears. I think in the long run, as someone who understands "vig" aka "juice" aka the true odds on parlays, one can only say what becomes obvious.

I'm not sure what you're getting at. Are you suggesting people can't get a long term advantage on
sports?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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June 6th, 2015 at 7:27:42 AM permalink
Long term sports advantage betting.
Yea its possible.
One name as an example
Billy Walters. He cant make a large bet in person. Sports books view him as an advantage player that they will lose money to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6FAUQ6SFKM
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June 6th, 2015 at 9:05:58 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I'm not sure what you're getting at. Are you suggesting people can't get a long term advantage on
sports?



Yes I am, due to the vig/juice on straight bets and odds on various cards being in the houses favor along with of course the money line representing a less than even chance of winning money in the long term.
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June 7th, 2015 at 12:06:34 AM permalink
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Yes I am, due to the vig/juice on straight bets and odds on various cards being in the houses favor along with of course the money line representing a less than even chance of winning money in the long term.

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After playing a lot of single zero roulette here in Cambodia, I think I can beat the game.

I rest my case.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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June 7th, 2015 at 12:27:30 AM permalink
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I rest my case.



We are discussing sports wagering, not single zero roulette. This is a civil forum, no need to resort to vicious personal attacks and innuendos. If you think anyone can create an advantage vs. the sportsbooks in sports wagering, go ahead, make our day.

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