Super Bowl 49 -- All topics except the No Safety bet.
Quote: rudeboyoiLost on patriots win 1st half and Seahawks win game +350. Still live on my other bets. Looking good on the FG ones. I got Under 3.5 fgs -125. Hauschka under 1.5 fgs +115. Hauschka under 7.5 pts +105. I also got last score of game is touchdown -170. And that parlay card is still live: Seattle wins, Seattle's total odd, Patriots total odd, under 1.5 fumbles.
Good luck on the parlay card, but as a Pats fan, I hope you lose. That said, if the Seahawks MUST win, I hope that comes in for you.
Quote: Mission146Good luck on the parlay card, but as a Pats fan, I hope you lose. That said, if the Seahawks MUST win, I hope that comes in for you.
Lol thanks?
Maybe if Brady works really hard, he can turn in a QB rating as good as Wilson's by the end of this one.
Quote: Mission146Unfortunately, you might be in trouble on those Hauschka bets, one more FG and they both lose.
Yah noticed that. Got some breathing room on those with the touchdown the seahawks just got at least. Seahawks winning 31-21 would win them all for me.
Quote: rudeboyoiYah noticed that. Got some breathing room on those with the touchdown the seahawks just got at least. Seahawks winning 31-21 would win them all for me.
I'm fine with that, the Pats deserve to lose this game. Especially Brady.
Quote: Mission146The odd scores will be what kills you if SEA wins.
Yah that parlays a loser. I'll prob win the props now though.
Quote: aceofspadesWorst play call ever…?
+infinity
Quote: djatc+infinity
Pete Carroll………..
How could this happen? Not a good day for seahawk fans.Quote: aceofspadesWorst play call ever…?
Quote: HunterhillCome back Mission. If that ending didn't get your heart pumping nothing will.
That was a great defensive play on a really bad call by the Seahawks. Only way you throw when you have Lynch back there is if it's fourth down, I would say.
Clutching defeat from the jaws of victory. (or whatever the saying is)
Quote: SOOPOOThey start minicamps in March. The coaches meet for 60 hours a week April through June. They have training camp all of July and August. They play 4 practice games. 16 regular season games. 2 playoff games to get to the super bowl. Pete Carroll has watched Marshawn Lynch all year barell through opponents. Its second and goal from the one yard line..... So what call does he make?
Marshawn Lynch? MARSHAWN LYNCH?! I could have gotten off the couch, laced up my Reebok Pumps, faced a line of 12 Vince Wilforks and the entire first row of the endzone stands, and still punched that $%^&er in myself. 2nd and goal. 5 feet to go. 40 seconds. Two time outs. In the GD Superbowl. There is nearly no possible way to lose this game.
But damned if he didn't find it. You're 70 GD years old and have been a coach longer than I've been alive. I ate a twice baked potato that could've figured out the appropriate play. But you freaking PASSED it. YOU PASSED IT!
He passed it. Holy $%^& my face, he passed it.
Oh, the humanity.
Quote: FaceMarshawn Lynch? MARSHAWN LYNCH?!
Epic rant!
It's funny, too, because the play before the Pick, I said to myself, "Should have conceded the TD rather than tackling him at the one." After saying that, I started yelling at them to take a time out, the them being NEW ENGLAND!!!
I couldn't figure out why NE would let SEA burn clock like that, no way they weren't going to score, is what I thought. I was yelling at the TV, because I doubt Belicheat could hear me, just to give Brady and his deflated balls a proper chance to get the Pats in FG range and let's go to OT.
Can anyone answer this?Quote: desertairSo the 7 figure bet made at the MGM on the Pats. What does that bettor stand to win if we assume it was $1m?
Quote: mdhCan anyone answer this?
He probably laid 110 if it was a ML bet, so, $909,090, right?
Quote: FaceMarshawn Lynch? MARSHAWN LYNCH?! I could have gotten off the couch, laced up my Reebok Pumps, faced a line of 12 Vince Wilforks and the entire first row of the endzone stands, and still punched that $%^&er in myself. 2nd and goal. 5 feet to go. 40 seconds. Two time outs. In the GD Superbowl. There is nearly no possible way to lose this game.
But damned if he didn't find it. You're 70 GD years old and have been a coach longer than I've been alive. I ate a twice baked potato that could've figured out the appropriate play. But you freaking PASSED it. YOU PASSED IT!
He passed it. Holy $%^& my face, he passed it.
Oh, the humanity.
You just dont make a pass into traffic there. With Lynch or Wilson in the backfield. A corner route up high, sure but a quick pop... too many things can go wrong when you have an 11 yard field. The CBs are up tight, safetyhelp in the middle, line backers too. Fields just too short with too much traffic.
Quote: SOOPOOThey start minicamps in March. The coaches meet for 60 hours a week April through June. They have training camp all of July and August. They play 4 practice games. 16 regular season games. 2 playoff games to get to the super bowl. Pete Carroll has watched Marshawn Lynch all year barell through opponents. Its second and goal from the one yard line..... So what call does he make?
I don't understand the vitriol against that play call, specifically because it was 2nd down. IMO, they wanted to catch NE off guard since everyone and their mom would be expecting Lynch to run it there. So the thinking probably was, we'll call one pass play here and if we don't score, Lynch has 2 more downs to get it in the end zone (being 4 down territory down by 4 points). Obviously it didn't work with the pick, but you have to trust your QB to either score or get rid of it there. Unfortunately for them, he threw into traffic and the defender made a great play.
But I don't think it was a horrible call on 2nd down.
Quote: thecesspit
You just dont make a pass into traffic there. With Lynch or Wilson in the backfield. A corner route up high, sure but a quick pop... too many things can go wrong when you have an 11 yard field. The CBs are up tight, safetyhelp in the middle, line backers too. Fields just too short with too much traffic.
I'm going to defend Wilson to the extent that it was more of a tremendous Defensive play and I don't consider that a bad pass at all. I mean that in the physical sense of the pass, not an ideal location on the field, I agree with that. He put the ball where it should have been, though.
Quote: AcesAndEightsI don't understand the vitriol against that play call, specifically because it was 2nd down. IMO, they wanted to catch NE off guard since everyone and their mom would be expecting Lynch to run it there. So the thinking probably was, we'll call one pass play here and if we don't score, Lynch has 2 more downs to get it in the end zone (being 4 down territory down by 4 points). Obviously it didn't work with the pick, but you have to trust your QB to either score or get rid of it there. Unfortunately for them, he threw into traffic and the defender made a great play.
But I don't think it was a horrible call on 2nd down.
I think it was a terrible call. RB's have been called on since time immemorial to pound that rock in there on x-and-goal from the one-yard line and the opponent has known it was coming. All RB's have been called upon to do that, not monsters like Lynch, any RB. It usually doesn't get stuffed. If you want to get cute, maybe do it on third-down. Lynch had just busted one for four yards, though, and beyond that, he pounded a three-yarder in earlier in the game that NE had to believe was coming and couldn't stop.
If Lynch fails on second, and Wilson throws the Pick on third, we're here right now talking about a, "Questionable," call rather than a, "Bad," call.
Quote: AcesAndEightsDid anyone take the "cleavage" bet? Good news! They're paying out both sides!
Good publicity for BetOnline, in my opinion. I both wonder what one had to lay to take the, "Yes," and I also wonder how much they'll end up paying out by paying both sides. I don't think it could possibly be that much, relatively speaking, so I look at it as a cheap (but potentially lucrative) publicity move.
I'd have definitely bet on the, "Yes," cleavage. Not a ton, but I'd have laid a good relative amount on the, "Yes."
It's Katy Perry, for God's sake, that girl wears a turtleneck and a little cleavage shows.
Quote: Mission146Quote: AcesAndEightsDid anyone take the "cleavage" bet? Good news! They're paying out both sides!
Good publicity for BetOnline, in my opinion. I both wonder what one had to lay to take the, "Yes," and I also wonder how much they'll end up paying out by paying both sides. I don't think it could possibly be that much, relatively speaking, so I look at it as a cheap (but potentially lucrative) publicity move.
I'd have definitely bet on the, "Yes," cleavage. Not a ton, but I'd have laid a good relative amount on the, "Yes."
It's Katy Perry, for God's sake, that girl wears a turtleneck and a little cleavage shows.
I think it was something like -500 for the yes and +400 for the no.
Quote: AcesAndEightsI don't understand the vitriol against that play call, specifically because it was 2nd down. IMO, they wanted to catch NE off guard since everyone and their mom would be expecting Lynch to run it there. So the thinking probably was, we'll call one pass play here and if we don't score, Lynch has 2 more downs to get it in the end zone (being 4 down territory down by 4 points). Obviously it didn't work with the pick, but you have to trust your QB to either score or get rid of it there. Unfortunately for them, he threw into traffic and the defender made a great play.
But I don't think it was a horrible call on 2nd down.
I think 2nd and 1 for a touchdown is two handoffs to Lynch. Automatic. 4th and 1 for TD is another thing entirely.
Now, this is for the lead late in the 4thQ in a Super Bowl. Vitreol. Automatic.
Quote: aceofspadesWorst play call ever…?
This would be the newspaper headline if I were writing it:
Ghost of '86 Redsox comes and haunts the Seahawks!!!
If they had run the ball the Patriots probably would have let Lynch walk in so they could get the ball back. The Patriots only needed a field goal to tie.
Quote: 98ClubsI think 2nd and 1 for a touchdown is two handoffs to Lynch. Automatic. 4th and 1 for TD is another thing entirely.
Now, this is for the lead late in the 4thQ in a Super Bowl. Vitreol. Automatic.
Exactly, Pete Carroll could hold up the following poster board:
Quote:Greetings and Salutations Respected and Esteemed Opponents,
I would just like to take this opportunity to make you aware that Marshawn Lynch will now attempt to pound the football down your throats.
Thank you for your kind attention.
Respectfully Yours,
Pete Carroll
...and it would have still been the right play.
Quote: z2newton
If they had run the ball the Patriots probably would have let Lynch walk in so they could get the ball back. The Patriots only needed a field goal to tie.
I believe they intended to try to stop him, or they would have immediately called a time out following the previous play.
Quote: FaceMarshawn Lynch? MARSHAWN LYNCH?! I could have gotten off the couch, laced up my Reebok Pumps, faced a line of 12 Vince Wilforks and the entire first row of the endzone stands, and still punched that $%^&er in myself. 2nd and goal. 5 feet to go. 40 seconds. Two time outs. In the GD Superbowl. There is nearly no possible way to lose this game.
But damned if he didn't find it. You're 70 GD years old and have been a coach longer than I've been alive. I ate a twice baked potato that could've figured out the appropriate play. But you freaking PASSED it. YOU PASSED IT!
He passed it. Holy $%^& my face, he passed it.
Oh, the humanity.
Cuddenta said it better Face. Marshawn Lynch.... no soup for You!
Quote: Mission146I believe they intended to try to stop him, or they would have immediately called a time out following the previous play.
This.
Carroll says he was trying to burn up a play. Pete Carroll second guessed himself. The throw and the route were fine, considering it's a quick play. The call is terrible, and it was doubled by the defence giving up a penalty on a hard count on the next play...
Quote: thecesspitThe call is terrible, and it was doubled by the defence giving up a penalty on a hard count on the next play...
The near intentional safety I'm sure gave people a near heart attack.
Potential scenario:
QB sneak for 1/2 yard gain. Seattle timeout.
QB sneak for another 1/2 yard. Seattle timeout. (I don't remember how many timeouts Seattle had.)
Brady drops back and either runs around or runs out of the back of the end zone to kill time. Safety.
Kickoff to kill the rest of the clock. Game over.
Pats not calling a timeout after the previous play was almost as shocking as the hawks pass play.Quote: Mission146I believe they intended to try to stop him, or they would have immediately called a time out following the previous play.
Quote: z2newtonThe near intentional safety I'm sure gave people a near heart attack.
Potential scenario:
QB sneak for 1/2 yard gain. Seattle timeout.
QB sneak for another 1/2 yard. Seattle timeout. (I don't remember how many timeouts Seattle had.)
Brady drops back and either runs around or runs out of the back of the end zone to kill time. Safety.
Kickoff to kill the rest of the clock. Game over.
Two. The Pats were going to hard count that first one. They needed a half yard for the kneel down, but they could have taken their last time out of the hard count doesn't work, and then tried to burn time. The Hawks, as you can see, stumbled over themselves to get stacked up in the box, and caused an encroachment. Slightly unfortunate in some ways. Probably saved a lot of people here money, as the right play if they don't get enough room after the snap is bootleg to burn out 5-8 seconds before the 2-point safety. The free kick is live, so there is some risks here.
Quote: mdhPats not calling a timeout after the previous play was almost as shocking as the hawks pass play.
Exactly!
It only makes sense not to call it if Belichick thinks:
Probability of Patriots stopping Seahawks > Probability of Seahawks Scoring, Patriots kicking FG within 1:00, Patriots winning in OT + Probability of Seahawks Scoring + Patriots Scoring TD in 1:00 to Win.
Quote: FaceMarshawn Lynch? MARSHAWN LYNCH?! I could have gotten off the couch, laced up my Reebok Pumps, faced a line of 12 Vince Wilforks and the entire first row of the endzone stands, and still punched that $%^&er in myself. 2nd and goal. 5 feet to go. 40 seconds. Two time outs. In the GD Superbowl. There is nearly no possible way to lose this game.
But damned if he didn't find it. You're 70 GD years old and have been a coach longer than I've been alive. I ate a twice baked potato that could've figured out the appropriate play. But you freaking PASSED it. YOU PASSED IT!
He passed it. Holy $%^& my face, he passed it.
Oh, the humanity.
+10000. Worth a repeat. And I had the Pats. Miracle win.
Lynch had 5 caries from the 1 yard line, for a total of -1 yard and only one score. (I seem to recall him also being stopped on third and one in this game. Not sure though.)
So, at that point, with only 20 something seconds left, which would allow you the 66 TD/0 INT play, and still give you two chances to run it in if you wanted to, is it such a bad decision to try it?
