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4 votes (25%)
5 votes (31.25%)
1 vote (6.25%)
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5 votes (31.25%)
2 votes (12.5%)
4 votes (25%)
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Wizard
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March 29th, 2023 at 2:02:20 PM permalink
In my mission to make players better gamblers, let's talk about Buffalo Ascension.

This game is like Hexbr3aker in that the stacks are not fixed in size. The higher the stacks, the greater the ways to win and stacks at the maximum height of seven can trigger bonuses.

The game conveniently shows the player the number of ways to win, which is the product of the stacks size across all five reels.

If this product is above some certain number, the odds swing to the player's favor. "What is that number?", you may ask. My anonymous source puts that number at 3136.

Why such a specific number? 3136 = 72 * 43. Reels 1 and 5 are always stacks of 4, so 3136 is not an uncommon product for all five reels.

I already wrote up the significant rules over at WoO.



The question for the poll is where do you put the "play point" for this game? Multiple votes allowed.
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March 29th, 2023 at 9:56:31 PM permalink
Better question, is stampede or 3x/5x games better... if it's not too late it would be an interesting poll question add...
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March 30th, 2023 at 4:33:08 AM permalink
Quote: Talldude90

Better question, is stampede or 3x/5x games better... if it's not too late it would be an interesting poll question add...
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I played this game A LOT on my cruise last week. Tons of vulturing opportunities.

3x/5x games was always better than the stampede for me.
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March 30th, 2023 at 5:50:54 AM permalink
The number I had was also 3136. However I found that if the number is 3136 but you don't have either column 2 or 4 close to popping or you don't have a super stempede or 3-5x bonus in theses the game is not good. so in that case i would leave the game so another ap loses its time money so i can take better opportunities
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March 30th, 2023 at 6:04:56 AM permalink
Last week on my cruise I couldn’t believe how many times people walked away from this game with all three middle stacks at their highest level…
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March 30th, 2023 at 10:20:25 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

Last week on my cruise I couldn’t believe how many times people walked away from this game with all three middle stacks at their highest level…
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Which cruise line?
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice). Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
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March 30th, 2023 at 10:22:53 AM permalink
3136 ways?
so col 3 maxed, and 2 other boxes above reset for total 5 boxes above reset?

3136 way has almost always been a loser for me.
maybe because my casino has the game set to minimum or near minimum return?
or maybe bad short term variance? i stopped playing at that # a long time ago.
i'll try again.

even col 2 = 6 high, col3= 7high, col 4 = reset has been around breakeven in my mind but i havent kept good records
Last edited by: 100xOdds on Mar 30, 2023
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice). Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
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March 30th, 2023 at 11:32:34 AM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

Quote: ams288

Last week on my cruise I couldn’t believe how many times people walked away from this game with all three middle stacks at their highest level…
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Which cruise line?
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Royal Caribbean
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March 30th, 2023 at 1:01:23 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

3136 ways?
so col 3 maxed, and 2 other boxes above reset for total 5 boxes above reset?

3136 way has almost always been a loser for me.
maybe because my casino has the game set to minimum or near minimum return?
or maybe bad short term variance? i stopped playing at that # a long time ago.
i'll try again.

even col 2 = 6 high, col3= 7high, col 4 = reset has been around breakeven in my mind but i havent kept good records
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6 boxes above reset 2 reels maxed. I wouldn't touch this at 3136 unless both reels were supers.

Game plays left to right so not all 3136s are the same. First rule is never think about playing if the center isn't maxed. Reel 2 and 3 maxed would be better than reel 3 and 4 maxed. This game has HUGE variance. The bonus, 3x & 5x, and regular stampede regularly pay nothing. You can walk up to this at 5400 get the super and still lose.

The only way to properly play this would be to keep detailed records including number of spins to get the super.
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March 31st, 2023 at 12:28:40 AM permalink
Quote: ALG

The only way to properly play this would be to keep detailed records including number of spins to get the super.
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I never play for the center Super
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